Naughty Dog damage controlling TLOU Remake "its not a $70 cash grab" (please believe them).

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#1  Edited By hardwenzen
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Morrison also reacted to how The Last of Us Part 1 is priced at $70, which is more than some might have expected. The developer said, "The price of the game is out my control and worth is subjective to each individual."

"You can decide for yourself if you want it or not. All I’m saying is I am in awe of the work that an amazing group of people did on the project. A tremendous amount of passion was put into it," Morrison added.

ND has been under attack. They're getting bombarded by enraged Sony fans calling them on their cash grab that is TLOU Remake. But ND says NO! No, its not a cash grab, and we, as a community, we need to believe them. Please believe what they're saying. ITS NOT A CASH GRAB. It isn't one. Stop saying that its a cash grab. Enough is enough.

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#2 Pedro
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$70 for a remake of a remaster.😂

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#3  Edited By lundy86_4  Online
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Thanks ND, but i'm good. Played the remaster and 2 not too long ago, so no interest in paying $70 for this.

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#4 enzyme36
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Didn't think they were going to go full price for this

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#5 Zero_epyon
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lol sure, guys. Y'all could have meticulously built a new project instead of reworking a game that's already been remastered.

Just take the criticism. We know ND likely isn't the one setting the price.

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#7 hrt_rulz01
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Lol, cash grab confirmed.

Sad thing is that people will still buy this at full price.

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#8 Archangel3371
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No thanks. Got the PS4 remaster for like $10 Canadian so I’m good.

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#9 Mesome713
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Sony is nothing but cash grabs.

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#10 PSP107
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@enzyme36 said:

Didn't think they were going to go full price for this

I wonder what was it like during the meetings when the Remake was 1st pitched. The topic of price had to been somewhat crazy.

@girlusocrazy said:

If you don't want to pay launch prices then wait for price drops

I haven't paid full price for a game since Madden NFL 2005(PS2).

@Archangel3371 said:

No thanks. Got the PS4 remaster for like $10 Canadian so I’m good.

I haven't played the free PS+ version they gave us some time ago.

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#11 navyguy21
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I dont understand how he can say that with a straight face when the game itself is already built.

They are redoing animations in specific scenes and adding a few more, and updating the graphics.

Thats not building a game from start to end, and therefor not worth $70

The excuse for the $70 was because development costs...............they just chucked that right out of the window

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#12  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Gaming journos be doing their best soyjak face when this is released.

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#14 DaVillain  Moderator
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Level design is absolutely not staying the same and this was evident in the damn trailer. It's using the gameplay from TLOU2 because it's running on the newer game engine. Part 2 also utilized more vertical combat than the first game so expect the remake to also do the same.

I agree that $70 is way too much to pay for another TLOU even though this is a Remake and not a Remastered. That said, I still love Part 1 over Part 2 and the fact the remake is coming to PC after all, I'll still buy it just to support the PC version and hey, if I'm lucky, I'll just buy it for less over at CDKey.

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#15 brimmul777
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I guess it’s a standard price for gamers who haven’t played the series yet? I’m guessing $70-$80 is to much for a coat of paint for those who have played it?

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#16 Pedro
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@PSP107: Price is typically not decided by the studio.

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#17  Edited By mrbojangles25
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It's fucking lame and they should be ashamed of themselves.

The only thing that might be worse than creating something like this are the people that buy it.

@Pedro said:

$70 for a remake of a remaster.😂

Yeah...

....yeah

This is one of those things that bugs me more than it should. I think mostly because I know it will sell well, and only spur developers to do more of the same.

Granted, I would enjoy some remakes--not remasters, I want remakes!--of a lot of games. But this is, what? The fifth revision of this game on two platforms, and wasn't it already backwards compatible on PS5 to begin with?

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#18  Edited By mrbojangles25
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@uninspiredcup: who is soyjak and why does he look like me? 🤣

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#19 Djoffer123
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I really hope this crap fails badly! And not because I dislike TLOU or anything, just because I don’t want this to be a thing! If you want to remake a game, either do it like FF7R where it’s basically a new game with the the same overall story it grab a really old game ( like ultima 7 old) and remake that!

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#20 Mesome713
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@djoffer123: It won’t fail, cows get milked like this every year.

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@djoffer123 said:

I really hope this crap fails badly! And not because I dislike TLOU or anything, just because I don’t want this to be a thing! If you want to remake a game, either do it like FF7R where it’s basically a new game with the the same overall story it grab a really old game ( like ultima 7 old) and remake that!

People are going to buy it because it's a Sony game. Anecdotal, but I have 2 buddies on base that are going to buy it because they want to do their part. When asked for clarification, they said it's supporting the team. 😑

I hope they actually play it because it's a great game but that's ridiculous.

Sony will just continue the milkage.

They have been terrible this generation, last gen they couldn't miss

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#22  Edited By madsnakehhh
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Sony will milk the heck out of this as long as they can ... i can already see the "re re releases" and bundles when the TV show premieres next year.

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#23 PC_Rocks
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Remember when an ND dev swear TLOU2 animations are not a scripted sequence for trailer and the final game will have it, pinky swear?

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#24  Edited By MirkoS77
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It’s going to be highly amusing to watch the reactions and backpedaling when this hits of all those trying to pass this off as nothing but a resolution/frame-rate bump in making the argument $70 isn’t justified.

It may not be to some as that’s subjective, but stop intentionally ignoring the fact that this REMAKE is using TLoU II’s gameplay improvements, is introducing new weapons, model and environmental assets, areas to explore, modes (speed running), accessibility options, filters and gameplay modifiers. Perhaps those dumb, misinformed and gullible enough will believe none of that exists……doesn’t mean the position is nothing but based on ignorance and misinformation, and is thus hot garbage.

But hey, System Wars. Whatever fits the narrative to push the agenda.

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#25 Mesome713
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Rumor is Last of Us II Remaster releasing next year. And God of War Remaster is coming next year too.

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#26 Macutchi
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regardless of whether you like the type of game, it's hard to argue tlou2 isn't meticulously built with near peerless attention to detail. and this guy is saying the remake is even better. i am curious to see more of it

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#27 PSP107
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@Pedro: " Price is typically not decided by the studio"

I'm not questioning that.

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#28 NNoyingHusband
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They’re gonna be in for a rude awakening. This isn’t gonna sell like they think it is and it shouldn’t. Over confident. Another Neil Sh!tthebedman failure.

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@MirkoS77 said:

It’s going to be highly amusing to watch the reactions and backpedaling when this hits of all those trying to pass this off as nothing but a resolution/frame-rate bump in making the argument $70 isn’t justified.

It may not be to some as that’s subjective, but stop intentionally ignoring the fact that this REMAKE is using TLoU II’s gameplay improvements, is introducing new weapons, model and environmental assets, areas to explore, modes (speed running), accessibility options, filters and gameplay modifiers. Perhaps those dumb, misinformed and gullible enough will believe none of that exists……doesn’t mean the position is nothing but based on ignorance and misinformation, and is thus hot garbage.

But hey, System Wars. Whatever fits the narrative to push the agenda.

I don't think anyone is arguing that. At least no one here is on sw is arguing that from all the posts. Whatever the case, I'll be picking it up on PC once it releases since I enjoyed it years ago on the ps3. Understandable arguing about the price, but I firmly believe, no price is too high for what one believes is worth the admission. Only if it is deemed worth it.

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#30 my_user_name
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I hope they charge $80 for it

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#31  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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100% a cash grab it's also lazy Naughty Dog needs to make a new IP they seem creatively bankrupt.

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#32 PCLover1980
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Whoever pays for this for full price is a fool. Just talk to a friend who has a PS4 and play the remastered version for free/cheaper.

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#33 Pedro
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@pclover1980 said:

Whoever pays for this for full price is a fool. Just talk to a friend who has a PS4 and play the remastered version for free/cheaper.

You are calling several folks on here fools.

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#34 Simonthekid7
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Maybe 70 bucks for the last of us part 1 remake is at least more worth it than 60 bucks for a new Mario golf game or mario strikers game. (and they are new but still kind of the same as the older ones)

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#35 blaznwiipspman1
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if I didn't play and beat this game literally last year for the first time, I would have maybe SOME interest in playing this again. Actually if they are asking people to spend $70 for this game, they should at least add a horse for travel purposes like they did in tlou2.

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#36  Edited By Ghost120x
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I didn’t buy the original on PS3 because I knew they would port to next gen with it being a twilight release. I’m doing the same with part 2.

I can’t wait to buy the remake of part 2 with the multiplayer included.

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#37 MysticalDonut
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$70 is definitely too high of an asking price but it's also definitely not going to be a 1:1 remake. They will add in new combat encounters and the gameplay mechanics from Part II.

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#38 KvallyX
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@girlusocrazy said:

If you don't want to pay launch prices then wait for price drops

Should be free to existing owners.

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#40 poe13
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Yeah and my ass grants 3 wishes if you rub it right.

I love the first last of us but the first screenshots showing the "improvements" looked terrible. And charging $70?

Go **** yourselves, Naughty Dog. You guys really suck lately.

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#41 Miyomatic
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Jeez so much smol pp energy up in here. Guys, this is one of the greatest games of all time. You'll laugh. You'll cry. You'll die. You'll throw your controller and break your TV and realize you have mental problems, man.

But goddamn, screw paying $70 for this bad boy. I'm dropping $100 or more for that Firefly Edition baby. 😎

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#42 SargentD
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Rtx update for $70?

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@pclover1980 said:

Whoever pays for this for full price is a fool. Just talk to a friend who has a PS4 and play the remastered version for free/cheaper.

For someone who has a name PC lover, you would think this is for those who never played this game thus this is coming to PC after all. Most PC gamers never played it, so this remake is pretty much aiming for PC gamers besides Sony fans.

Judging my the number of posters here. Most of the SW crowd tends to forget this is coming to PC and as a PC gamer, I for one looking forward to this game as I said in my original post, I don't intend to pay full price as I'll buy it for less over at CDKey😎

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#44  Edited By Warm_Gun
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Sure it will still have the same basic mechanical problems, like shoulder-swapping being restricted to the aiming mode.

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#45 PCLover1980
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@davillain: But at 70 bucks, and a remake to boot? Yikes. And if you're getting this at a discounted price, then you're not a fool.

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#46 blaznwiipspman1
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@hardwenzen: cheezus, do you really believe its not a cash grab? So you're going to buying this for $70? Or just talking nonsense as usual? Give this game about an year, you will see it released on ps plus extreme Deluxe or whatever it's called.

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#47 lamprey263
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Sony fans have been okay with double dipping for next gen upgrades and paying $70 for their games, and treating re-releases like new releases. This is just more of the same. So unless they want to start complaining about all that, I'd say that circumstantially this is just the byproduct of their complacency.

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#48 BassMan
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$70...

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#49  Edited By VatususReturns
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It is, no matter what they say. And I say this as a sony fan and someone who loved both TLoU 1 AND 2

Its a pointless remake. I played the original again on the PS3 like one year ago and the game still holds very well graphically. I hope this remake flops cause I want this "remakes and remasters" fad to die off. More money and time thrown to remasters and remakes is less money and time thrown to brand new games and ideas. If people love the originals then go play the originals. I can understand a remake of a very old game in order to catter to brand new audiences but what new audience is this for? the game is still relatively recent and can be aquired easily on both PS3 and PS4... if this becomes a success this will become a precedent of remakes and remasters of 5 yo games with no need for it whatsoever. And again, no more ideas or new AAA ips cause publishers will become even more lazy and instead of betting on new IPs they'll just keep on releasing their well established ones over and over again but wait! Now with the resolution that goes along with the generation. Last gen was 1080p! Now is 4K! Next gen is 8K! ffs...

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#50  Edited By VatususReturns
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@pc_rocks said:

Remember when an ND dev swear TLOU2 animations are not a scripted sequence for trailer and the final game will have it, pinky swear?

Have you actually played the game? Idk wtf you're talking about but the in game animations in TLoU2 are some of the best I've ever seen in gaming and the game plays exactly like what we've seen on that first gameplay trailer/walkthrough