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#1 nhh18
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8H7zZ4SCyY&feature=player_embedded

my mind is blown at this revoloution ni gaming. So much better than the wii. And yes this is a new video.

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#2 Renjinrezo
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Eeewww, I can't unwatch that :P.

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#3 Syferonik
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Only loved that girl who made the interview :lol: i don't care much for motion controllers but if this works rly good for FPS then i am buying it day one.
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#4 Zaibach
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I stopped watching at the bit where the girl enters the room it reminded me of a film i'd seen before............:P

she's sooooo ccuuuuuttteeeee!!!:oops:

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#5 nVidiaGaMer
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Natal is going to be the biggest revolution is gaming.

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#6 Nocturnal_Speed
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haha yeah thats..... pretty accurate.

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#7 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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until they can accurately see me moving at top speed, they're pointless
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#8 nhh18
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until they can accurately see me moving at top speed, they're pointlessJandurin
I think they need a tech demo where it actually works.

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#9 Mckenna1845
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until they can accurately see me moving at top speed, they're pointlessJandurin
yeah that's the problem with motion controls is the lag, i haven't tried motion plus, but with the wii mote there is always a slight lag, from the remote to the pointer on screen, but you don't really notice it on most games, but on something like this when accuracy and speed is a must you need no lag.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]until they can accurately see me moving at top speed, they're pointlessMckenna1845
yeah that's the problem with motion controls is the lag, i haven't tried motion plus, but with the wii mote there is always a slight lag, from the remote to the pointer on screen, but you don't really notice it on most games, but on something like this when accuracy and speed is a must you need no lag.

honestly, i wouldn't even mind a slight lag (i don't think there's any way around that, really) as long as i could move my arm as fast as i could and it would accurately depict it in the game/on the screen Certainly, the Wiimote wasn't able to, though I haven't tried motion+ yet
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#11 darkfame
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Sorry, but it looks sometimes glitchy and delayed to me. Let's hope it won't stay like this.

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#12 TheCoreGamer_
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this is more ideal for PC applications. oh yea microsoft is working on that anyways makes sense.
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#13 8Tango
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Love that he's playing on a Sony tv... Just love it.

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#14 spinecaton
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Love that he's playing on a Sony tv... Just love it.

8Tango

Is that a problem? Not like the entire company is in competition with one another, just the gaming division.

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#15 8Tango
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

[QUOTE="8Tango"]

Love that he's playing on a Sony tv... Just love it.

Is that a problem? Not like the entire company is in competition with one another, just the gaming division.

Well yes, very true. But still in System Wars it's a big deal =D
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#16 spinecaton
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

[QUOTE="8Tango"]

Love that he's playing on a Sony tv... Just love it.

8Tango

Is that a problem? Not like the entire company is in competition with one another, just the gaming division.

Well yes, very true. But still in System Wars it's a big deal =D

Haha okay +1

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#17 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="8Tango"][QUOTE="spinecaton"]

[QUOTE="8Tango"]

Love that he's playing on a Sony tv... Just love it.

Is that a problem? Not like the entire company is in competition with one another, just the gaming division.

Well yes, very true. But still in System Wars it's a big deal =D

nah. Everyone knows Sony makes decent LCDs.
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#18 8Tango
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[QUOTE="8Tango"][QUOTE="spinecaton"]

Is that a problem? Not like the entire company is in competition with one another, just the gaming division.

Jandurin

Well yes, very true. But still in System Wars it's a big deal =D

nah. Everyone knows Sony makes decent LCDs.

Yep, I have a Bravia myself, need to upgrade it though at some point.

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#19 dommeus
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She's hot.

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#20 Chaos_HL21
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The Natal looks very interesting. It could really work. But I am waiting for the price tag of it. If it over $100 it would be too much

[QUOTE="8Tango"]

Love that he's playing on a Sony tv... Just love it.

spinecaton

Is that a problem? Not like the entire company is in competition with one another, just the gaming division.

Yeah if you buy a Sony Laptop, Windows comes with it. Outside of the gaming division Sony and MS worked together on afew stuff.

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#21 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Yep, I have a Bravia myself, need to upgrade it though at some point.

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*cough* Plasmas > LCDs >_> >_> >_> lol
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#22 8Tango
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="8Tango"]

Yep, I have a Bravia myself, need to upgrade it though at some point.

*cough* Plasmas > LCDs >_> >_> >_> lol

PAH! Plasmas burn!
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="8Tango"]

Yep, I have a Bravia myself, need to upgrade it though at some point.

8Tango
*cough* Plasmas > LCDs >_> >_> >_> lol

PAH! Plasmas burn!

not so much anymore. and they're so pretty :3
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#24 wooooode
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Please dont hype Natel it will not improve gaming it is only slowing down the evolution of games. It will be a cool interface but will not work for games as well as many hope.
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#25 8Tango
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[QUOTE="8Tango"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] *cough* Plasmas > LCDs >_> >_> >_> lolJandurin
PAH! Plasmas burn!

not so much anymore. and they're so pretty :3

Ah, I'll have to take a look into it. It was quite a while ago I got mine 2-3 years I think.
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#26 joel_c17
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looks pretty inaccurate to me. fail.
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#27 h575309
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I dont like the idea of no feedback. You drive a car, you feel the friction, you feel the gforces. This doesnt do anything to simulate that. Color me un-impressed. I think Sony has the better idea.

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#28 0rin
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Please dont hype Natel it will not improve gaming it is only slowing down the evolution of games. It will be a cool interface but will not work for games as well as many hope.wooooode
motion controls to gaming are sorta what texting is to phones. a step in the wrong direction.
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#29 hywel69
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I stopped watching at the bit where the girl enters the room it reminded me of a film i'd seen before............:P

she's sooooo ccuuuuuttteeeee!!!:oops:

Zaibach

Nice, can you pm me the name of this film:P

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#30 flazzle
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Please dont hype Natel it will not improve gaming it is only slowing down the evolution of games. It will be a cool interface but will not work for games as well as many hope.wooooode

It's all how the developers use it, not so much the technology.

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#31 nVidiaGaMer
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Please dont hype Natel it will not improve gaming it is only slowing down the evolution of games. It will be a cool interface but will not work for games as well as many hope.wooooode

And you know this how??? Have you played Natal? NO. Natal is a step in the right direction imo. No controller other then your body.

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#32 Dante2710
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damn, is that girl really tiny or is the guy a giant? anyways, it looks lame, the wii will always remain the motion controller king IMO
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#33 DeadEndPanda
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has anyone noticed that everyone who plays natal has orange clothing on?

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#34 DeadEndPanda
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[QUOTE="wooooode"]Please dont hype Natel it will not improve gaming it is only slowing down the evolution of games. It will be a cool interface but will not work for games as well as many hope.0rin
motion controls to gaming are sorta what texting is to phones. a step in the wrong direction.

i actully agree with this.

its not that i dont like motion controles or anything, but i totally see what you mean

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#35 -CUBE-
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[QUOTE="8Tango"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] *cough* Plasmas > LCDs >_> >_> >_> lolJandurin
PAH! Plasmas burn!

not so much anymore. and they're so pretty :3

yup, I have a plasma and most of the time I leave it on with a static image on screen (a channel logo or a paused game screen) and I never get a burned screen.
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[QUOTE="Mckenna1845"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]until they can accurately see me moving at top speed, they're pointlessJandurin
yeah that's the problem with motion controls is the lag, i haven't tried motion plus, but with the wii mote there is always a slight lag, from the remote to the pointer on screen, but you don't really notice it on most games, but on something like this when accuracy and speed is a must you need no lag.

honestly, i wouldn't even mind a slight lag (i don't think there's any way around that, really) as long as i could move my arm as fast as i could and it would accurately depict it in the game/on the screen Certainly, the Wiimote wasn't able to, though I haven't tried motion+ yet

No there's still some lag unfortunately but it doesn't hinder game play and it's far and few between.

I suspct with motion technology it will improve as with most technology.

Motion Technology will be pretty big on PC too! as Project Natal is being integrated into Windows 7.

It's been revealed that MS has been working on such a project for 20 years!

So I'm confidant they will continue to improve it for both the Console and Windows platform.

By the way Hitachi and several other manufacturers will be implementing this kind of motion control into TVs next year!!!!

Motion Technology is here to stay. Now all we need is the games!

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#37 Vadamee
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It looks really good and surprisingly accurate - When the guy moved his limbs at a high rate, the motion camera didn't go out of range. Did anyone notice the physics for the on-screen avatar? The physics for it's movements seemed very dynamic and didn't seem to have a limited range of calculating motion, somewhat of a contrast to games on the Wii. This is something I'll likely never use to actually PLAY games but It seems to be an evolution of the Wii-mote and I hope that it takes off.
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#38 kunal1092000
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Still, don't want it I prefer a controller.

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#39 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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im honestly surprised that somepeople think natal might be good and will improve gaming

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xD Awww! とてもかわいー ですよ! :3 She was so cute.
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#41 nhh18
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im honestly surprised that somepeople think natal might be good and will improve gaming

toast_burner

I'm surprised people say it is accurate. I mean the .5 second delay, and weird movements of the avatar in the ricochet game or in burnout paradise the only videos we've seen are people running into walls.

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#42 8Tango
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

im honestly surprised that somepeople think natal might be good and will improve gaming

I'm surprised people say it is accurate. I mean the .5 second delay, and weird movements of the avatar in the ricochet game or in burnout paradise the only videos we've seen are people running into walls.

It's not the finished product, but still bit weird that it's actually in the title!
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#43 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

im honestly surprised that somepeople think natal might be good and will improve gaming

8Tango

I'm surprised people say it is accurate. I mean the .5 second delay, and weird movements of the avatar in the ricochet game or in burnout paradise the only videos we've seen are people running into walls.

It's not the finished product, but still bit weird that it's actually in the title!

It is mocking the fact that people believe that this has 0 ms lag, and all this stuff. And then we see the latest natal video and it looks still the worse control than lair.

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#44 8Tango
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="8Tango"][QUOTE="nhh18"]I'm surprised people say it is accurate. I mean the .5 second delay, and weird movements of the avatar in the ricochet game or in burnout paradise the only videos we've seen are people running into walls.

It's not the finished product, but still bit weird that it's actually in the title!

It is mocking the fact that people believe that this has 0 ms lag, and all this stuff. And then we see the latest natal video and it looks still the worse control than lair.

Ahh right, see I just looked at the video didn't read what the guy said... But yeah, I try not to be too opinionated on this crap so i'm not accuse of being a fanboy every 12 and a half seconds (That gets really annoying) But Natal is going to be an absolute piece of crap, just like eyetoy was. It won't work right no matter how much people try to pretend it does. And deep breaths.
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#45 Ringx55
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Looks horrible. Wrong direction for gaming imo.
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#46 Riverwolf007
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no thanks, i mean at least not for gaming i can see myself owning it so i can use it to navigate menus or while pausing or chapter searching a dvd or something

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#47 voxware00
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i own a 360, i have nothing against motion controls

i just don't get the hype for natal.. maybe when I see some traditional games using it if possible

but how can people compare it to the wii or even the sony wand? it's going down the same road as the original eyetoy (which I also own mind you)

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#48 cainetao11
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I'll wait to try it and the Sony wand for myself before judging them. I like the Wiimote and it works well for the games I use it for.
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

im honestly surprised that somepeople think natal might be good and will improve gaming

nhh18

I'm surprised people say it is accurate. I mean the .5 second delay, and weird movements of the avatar in the ricochet game or in burnout paradise the only videos we've seen are people running into walls.

oh Nhh18, I havn't seen you in a while. I already know your stance on Project Natal. so lets continue this discussion.

Project Natal is accurate and of course their is the occasional glitch with that infamous Avatar demnonstatration but since then the y have improved Project Natal's response time which is what you should be referring to with the delays.

Burnout Paradise? that depends on the user doesn't it. New players just jump in and start getting used to the controls and of course there would be an option to change it's settings.

one of many journalist who actually had hands on time and tried Project Natal

"My hands grasped around an imaginary wheel, I put my right foot forward and the car screeched away. Not actually holding anything in my hands the controls felt slightly unnatural,but amazingly lag was negligible (Microsoft claims a 66ms delay, which is the same as that introduced by a standard controller)and I was able to scream around Paradise City with no problems. Kudo even tried to make me crash by standing beside to me and pretending to drive - somehow Natal knew that it was my actions and not his that it had to monitor."

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#50 ethercore
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Why is the guy wearing giant sunglasses indoors? Oh, I know....hangover. Still, drunk or not, no one should be caught dead in those things. He probably thinks he looks awesome.