Microsoft stumbles over 09 lineup on X-Play

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="mitu123"] I did, but the 360 didn't have as many exclusives as the PS3.mitu123

Xbox 360 has a stunning lineup for 2009, full of huge 50-100 hour deep games and vast open next gen game worlds

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26715971&tag=topics;title

I count 109 games !!! Of course more will come and i have forgot many i guess

Hell, by this logic Wii is the console to own this year (not a hit on Wii, just making a point).

I patiently await your usual response.

Well, huge 50-100 hours games and vast deep RPG's, with huge open next gen worlds are not ... "sucky" to me

The sucky games for me are linear short shooters like MGS4, Gears 2, Killzone 2, Uncharted 1-2 etc

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] Yeah, that's true. It wasn't a bad year for the 360 exactly, but 2007 beats it.Floppy_Jim

[QUOTE="death919"]With Halo 3 Mythic Map Pack coming soon, I don't WANT other games to release 3-4 months after that because I know I will miss them in favour of the addictiveness of Halo 3. :Pobamanian

I think Halo is unique, lile AVP games, they are just very very fun

Unlike Gears 2, Killzone 2 etc that are games i would only rent, Halo 3 is actually a game that i can go back to and have fun with, i guess that is its charm from Halo 1 and still in Halo 3

Halo Wars seems to continue that with some great controls, visuals and above fun factor from impressions i read

I guess it is the gameplay that sets those games apart and deserve every praise, that coming from someone that hates linear short shooters

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Yeah, 2007 had Halo 3, which beats most 360 games in 08, LOL, I feel like getting a PS3 now.mitu123

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="spinecaton"]

You can also include the 08 GDC announcements though, Gears of war 2 was announced in Febuary during GDC and came out 10 months later. Ninja Gaiden II was announced Sept 07 and came out 10 months later in June 08.

Floppy_Jim

More like 2 years :P

http://www.pressthebuttons.com/2006/09/banjo_and_kazoo.html

Stupid memory.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="obamanian"]

Well, huge 50-100 hours games and vast deep RPG's, with huge open next gen worlds are not ... "sucky" to me

The sucky games for me are linear short shooters like MGS4, Gears 2, Killzone 2, Uncharted 1-2 etc

Master-Thief-09

yes, it does matter. especially when you hype games
a) with barely any info
b) with a shaky track record
c) no release date
d) with just a title
e) THAT YOUR NOT EVEN GOING TO PLAY LET ALONE RENT OR BUY. JUST COMMENT ON BECAUSE IT GOT A DECENT SCORE AND IS EXCLUSIVE, AND YOU'VE WATCHED A TON OF VIDEOS(not directed to you).

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] Aren't you saving up for one? I seem to remember you saying that in the KZ2 stickies.Floppy_Jim

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Yes, I am, starting right now. There's 5 must play games on there for me: MGS 4, Little Big Planet, Ratchet and Clank: TOD, Valkyria Chronicles and Killzone 2.mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] Well, I don't have LBP but I have to say, those are all great choices. Methinks you'll be satisfied :)Floppy_Jim

I guess E3 doesn't count for anything anymore, eh?

I guess E3 doesn't count for anything anymore, eh?

heretrix

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Xbox 360 has a stunning lineup for 2009, full of huge 50-100 hour deep games and vast open next gen game worlds

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26715971&tag=topics;title

I count 109 games !!! Of course more will come and i have forgot many i guess

Chutebox

Hell, by this logic Wii is the console to own this year (not a hit on Wii, just making a point).

I patiently await your usual response.

[QUOTE="marcuskickass"]Microsoft usually does not disappoint when it comes the their gaming lineup for the year, so I believe him (absolutely no reason why I shouldn't based off the past years of awesome gaming :D) and they tend to follow a trend for their middle to end of year lineup with 1 huge blockbuster exclusive shooter (which could be Halo Odst but I smell a true PD sequel in the works ,but I am just speculating), 1 huge blockbuster exclusive rpg (mass effect 2...timed?) and 1 or 2 japanese rpgs (timed or fully exclusive)...and with Peter Molyneux appearing at GDC to unveil what Lionhead's been working on, and with Crackdown 2 and Forza 3 all but confirmed...oh and didnt Rare say they were working on 3 new games? mitu123

6 hours?...Cod 4 had 5 give or take a few minutes depending on what difficulty you were playing on and was critically acclaimed for its sp/mp...and it being an open world halo game really excites me (and it already has mp in the bag) but i also do hope PD2 is announced because i also personally loved perfect dark zero's online portion and would complement Halo odst rather well (or would it be the other way round? *fingers crossed it would be announced*)

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="marcuskickass"]Microsoft usually does not disappoint when it comes the their gaming lineup for the year, so I believe him (absolutely no reason why I shouldn't based off the past years of awesome gaming :D) and they tend to follow a trend for their middle to end of year lineup with 1 huge blockbuster exclusive shooter (which could be Halo Odst but I smell a true PD sequel in the works ,but I am just speculating), 1 huge blockbuster exclusive rpg (mass effect 2...timed?) and 1 or 2 japanese rpgs (timed or fully exclusive)...and with Peter Molyneux appearing at GDC to unveil what Lionhead's been working on, and with Crackdown 2 and Forza 3 all but confirmed...oh and didnt Rare say they were working on 3 new games? marcuskickass

6 hours?...Cod 4 had 5 give or take a few minutes depending on what difficulty you were playing on and was critically acclaimed for its sp/mp...and it being an open world halo game really excites me (and it already has mp in the bag) but i also do hope PD2 is announced because i also personally loved perfect dark zero's online portion and would complement Halo odst rather well (or would it be the other way round? *fingers crossed it would be announced*)

[QUOTE="marcuskickass"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Seriously, Halo 3 ODST to be a big title, an expansion pack with less than 6 hours of gameplay not at full price is big, I don't think so IMO, Perfect Dark 2 please.mitu123

6 hours?...Cod 4 had 5 give or take a few minutes depending on what difficulty you were playing on and was critically acclaimed for its sp/mp...and it being an open world halo game really excites me (and it already has mp in the bag) but i also do hope PD2 is announced because i also personally loved perfect dark zero's online portion and would complement Halo odst rather well (or would it be the other way round? *fingers crossed it would be announced*)

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="marcuskickass"]

6 hours?...Cod 4 had 5 give or take a few minutes depending on what difficulty you were playing on and was critically acclaimed for its sp/mp...and it being an open world halo game really excites me (and it already has mp in the bag) but i also do hope PD2 is announced because i also personally loved perfect dark zero's online portion and would complement Halo odst rather well (or would it be the other way round? *fingers crossed it would be announced*)

marcuskickass

[QUOTE="marcuskickass"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Yeah, but I wouldn't count an expansion as a big title, and COD 4 was a big game of course despite it's short length. The open worldness of Halo 3: ODST might make it last longer, who knows. And I want PD2 and hopefully the single player is much better, and here's some info I found from Surfer Girl: From what I've seen, the sequel to Perfect Dark on Xbox 360 is going to right a few wrongs with the first, but it's really too early to tell if Rare can deliver a shooter to really live up to it's glory days. One thing I can tell you: the art is infinitely better - though that wouldn't be hard.mitu123

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

I think its gonna be lime 2008 personally.

MS will annouce some new games soon, and they wiull have a strong lineup, but like last year, sony will have a better lineup, although this year there will be more games coming from proven series now like uncharted, killzone (psp version did well), SOCOM (not out in UK yet), god of war 3, new R&C ec...

Im a little worried about MS this year, becuase the fact is it doesnt look like there is going to be a huge blockbuster game like gears 2 or halo 3. And its games like that which are keeping MS on top. The new halo game looks pretty small, and I doubt we will see gears 3 till next gen maybe. So are they going to create a new big IP or are they once again relying on better multiplats?

PS3_3DO

And the best game on the PS3 in 2009 is Killzone 2. No GOW 3 until 2010.

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="marcuskickass"] So is it confirmed that PD2 is in the works? marcuskickass

[QUOTE="LordDhampire"][QUOTE="obamanian"]

Well, huge 50-100 hours games and vast deep RPG's, with huge open next gen worlds are not ... "sucky" to me

The sucky games for me are linear short shooters like MGS4, Gears 2, Killzone 2, Uncharted 1-2 etc

obamanian

None of those games will have over 25 hours of game play, if 15....and alot of them didn't look good....like two worlds

I played Fable 2 120+ hours to see everything, Too Human 50+ hours and Two Worlds 60+ hours, and were addicitive and super fun all the way

I do not rush through RPG's like they were linear shooters

im still enjoying my valkyria chronicles, and Naruto Ultimate Ninja storm. But also i work 8 hours a day. (and both these games are over 10 hours of gameplay...especialy Valkyria chronicles.

Microsoft always delivers

Like he said they under promise and overdeliver unlike Sony who does the exact opposite

Microsoft always delivers

Like he said they under promise and overdeliver unlike Sony who does the exact opposite

Stiggsx

Like in my earlier metaphor. If Sony was playing a game of poker against Microsoft, they wouldn't be doing to well.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] If you stop counting sucky games, well I'll let you think about that.

Hell, by this logic Wii is the console to own this year (not a hit on Wii, just making a point).

I patiently await your usual response.

Chutebox

[QUOTE="Stiggsx"]

Microsoft always delivers

Like he said they under promise and overdeliver unlike Sony who does the exact opposite

AdobeArtist

Like in my earlier metaphor. If Sony was playing a game of poker against Microsoft, they wouldn't be doing to well.

Looks like it's going to be a great year for 360 owners.SpinoRaptor24

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"][QUOTE="Stiggsx"]

Microsoft always delivers

Like he said they under promise and overdeliver unlike Sony who does the exact opposite

WutTimeIsIt

Like in my earlier metaphor. If Sony was playing a game of poker against Microsoft, they wouldn't be doing to well.

You completely missed the point of my analogy. In poker you never reveal your hand early. You don't tip yourself off to the other players at the table. But that's what Sony is doing, giving the opposition a chance to prepare their counter-measures, while MS keeps their cards close to their chest, revealing only when the time is right.

And STOP talking about the two systems capabilities. You still can't demonstrate any understanding of the CPU architecture (the PS3 Cel is NOT 8 cores, SPE's are NOT cores), so stop talking about what you know nothing about already.

the PS3 Cel is NOT 8 coresAdobeArtist

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]the PS3 Cel is NOT 8 coresWutTimeIsIt

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]the PS3 Cel is NOT 8 coresWutTimeIsIt

The Cell (yes I did mispell it before) is the name of the CPU (which was co-developed with IBM and Toshiba) in the PS3. It consists of 8 SPEs which mean Synchronous Processing Element. 1 is completely switched off, another designated for the OS. They are each a compartment of the CPU, assigned to specific alogorithms and calculations. But each SPE on it's own isn't capable of running a computer on it's own. Like I said, they are specialized divisions of the Cell processor as a whole.

Have I missed anything so far?

*EDIT* Saw your later post (quoting yourself): You're using Wiki as a source?? The online site that allows public access for anybody to input info? Hardly a credible source? Hell, YOU'RE probably the one who entered that BS line about the Cell being "an 8 core microprocessor" :roll::roll:

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]

I think its gonna be lime 2008 personally.

MS will annouce some new games soon, and they wiull have a strong lineup, but like last year, sony will have a better lineup, although this year there will be more games coming from proven series now like uncharted, killzone (psp version did well), SOCOM (not out in UK yet), god of war 3, new R&C ec...

Im a little worried about MS this year, becuase the fact is it doesnt look like there is going to be a huge blockbuster game like gears 2 or halo 3. And its games like that which are keeping MS on top. The new halo game looks pretty small, and I doubt we will see gears 3 till next gen maybe. So are they going to create a new big IP or are they once again relying on better multiplats?

PS3_3DO

And the best game on the PS3 in 2009 is Killzone 2. No GOW 3 until 2010.

[QUOTE="WutTimeIsIt"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]the PS3 Cel is NOT 8 coresAdobeArtist

The Cell (yes I did mispell it before) is the name of the CPU (which was co-developed with IBM and Toshiba) in the PS3. It consists of 8 SPEs which mean Synchronous Processing Element. 1 is completely switched off, another designated for the OS. They are each a compartment of the CPU, assigned to specific alogorithms and calculations. But each SPE on it's own isn't capable of running a computer on it's own. Like I said, they are specialized divisions of the Cell processor as a whole.

Have I missed anything so far?

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

Xbox 360 has a stunning lineup for 2009, full of huge 50-100 hour deep games and vast open next gen game worlds

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26715971&tag=topics;title

I count 109 games !!! Of course more will come and i have forgot many i guess

Chutebox

Hell, by this logic Wii is the console to own this year (not a hit on Wii, just making a point).

I patiently await your usual response.

[QUOTE="WutTimeIsIt"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]the PS3 Cel is NOT 8 coresAdobeArtist

The Cell (yes I did mispell it before) is the name of the CPU (which was co-developed with IBM and Toshiba) in the PS3. It consists of 8 SPEs which mean Synchronous Processing Element. 1 is completely switched off, another designated for the OS. They are each a compartment of the CPU, assigned to specific alogorithms and calculations. But each SPE on it's own isn't capable of running a computer on it's own. Like I said, they are specialized divisions of the Cell processor as a whole.

Have I missed anything so far?

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="WutTimeIsIt"] lmao @ the term 'PS3 Cel' you keep using, do you know anything about computer architecture?WutTimeIsIt

The Cell (yes I did mispell it before) is the name of the CPU (which was co-developed with IBM and Toshiba) in the PS3. It consists of 8 SPEs which mean Synchronous Processing Element. 1 is completely switched off, another designated for the OS. They are each a compartment of the CPU, assigned to specific alogorithms and calculations. But each SPE on it's own isn't capable of running a computer on it's own. Like I said, they are specialized divisions of the Cell processor as a whole.

Have I missed anything so far?

Yeahhhhh, everybody on the interent has an engineering degree. You used Wikipedia, what's well known everywhere, as an open source online reference that offers public access for anybody to input informtion. Did YOU do that jut now with the line about the Cell being an 8 core microprocessor? Please.

[QUOTE="WutTimeIsIt"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]the PS3 Cel is NOT 8 coresWutTimeIsIt

The PS3 has one CPU core and 7 usuable Special Processing Units (SPUs)

The 360 has 3 CPU cores, designed to run 6 parallel threads

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="WutTimeIsIt"] lmao @ the term 'PS3 Cel' you keep using, do you know anything about computer architecture?WutTimeIsIt

The Cell (yes I did mispell it before) is the name of the CPU (which was co-developed with IBM and Toshiba) in the PS3. It consists of 8 SPEs which mean Synchronous Processing Element. 1 is completely switched off, another designated for the OS. They are each a compartment of the CPU, assigned to specific alogorithms and calculations. But each SPE on it's own isn't capable of running a computer on it's own. Like I said, they are specialized divisions of the Cell processor as a whole.

Have I missed anything so far?

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]One last Edit: all those pc/360 games you posted you know are not exclusive right?

Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="WutTimeIsIt"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]the PS3 Cel is NOT 8 coresAdobeArtist

The Cell (yes I did mispell it before) is the name of the CPU (which was co-developed with IBM and Toshiba) in the PS3. It consists of 8 SPEs which mean Synchronous Processing Element. 1 is completely switched off, another designated for the OS. They are each a compartment of the CPU, assigned to specific alogorithms and calculations. But each SPE on it's own isn't capable of running a computer on it's own. Like I said, they are specialized divisions of the Cell processor as a whole.

Have I missed anything so far?

*EDIT* Saw your later post (quoting yourself): You're using Wiki as a source?? The online site that allows public access for anybody to input info? Hardly a credible source? Hell, YOU'RE probably the one who entered that BS line about the Cell being "an 8 core microprocessor" :roll::roll:

Having said that, the spirit of your post is mostly spot on, it really depends on how narrow or broad your definition of a processing core is.

[QUOTE="WutTimeIsIt"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

The Cell (yes I did mispell it before) is the name of the CPU (which was co-developed with IBM and Toshiba) in the PS3. It consists of 8 SPEs which mean Synchronous Processing Element. 1 is completely switched off, another designated for the OS. They are each a compartment of the CPU, assigned to specific alogorithms and calculations. But each SPE on it's own isn't capable of running a computer on it's own. Like I said, they are specialized divisions of the Cell processor as a whole.

Have I missed anything so far?WutTimeIsIt

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="WutTimeIsIt"] lmao @ the term 'PS3 Cel' you keep using, do you know anything about computer architecture?Steppy_76

The Cell (yes I did mispell it before) is the name of the CPU (which was co-developed with IBM and Toshiba) in the PS3. It consists of 8 SPEs which mean Synchronous Processing Element. 1 is completely switched off, another designated for the OS. They are each a compartment of the CPU, assigned to specific alogorithms and calculations. But each SPE on it's own isn't capable of running a computer on it's own. Like I said, they are specialized divisions of the Cell processor as a whole.

Have I missed anything so far?

*EDIT* Saw your later post (quoting yourself): You're using Wiki as a source?? The online site that allows public access for anybody to input info? Hardly a credible source? Hell, YOU'RE probably the one who entered that BS line about the Cell being "an 8 core microprocessor" :roll::roll:

Having said that, the spirit of your post is mostly spot on, it really depends on how narrow or broad your definition of a processing core is.

[QUOTE="WutTimeIsIt"][QUOTE="WutTimeIsIt"] honestly do you know anything about what your talking about? i have a bachelor of engineering in computer engineering, and by the way your talking it sounds like your either copying pasting some facts and mixing them up with your own, or your just outright lying. Each of the 8 processors on the PS3 is capable of running program Threads separately, on its own, using its own dedicated memory. that is all i will say to you because you the only thing that sounded right coming from u is who developed the CPU's (and i even doubt that given ur credibility). done with u.Steppy_76