LOL So whos really going to buy the 360 version of rage if you have a ps3 or PC?

[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="PinkieWinkie"]Yeah who cares about graphics, disc swapping, and HD res....nobody. .001%.

PinkieWinkie

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[QUOTE="PinkieWinkie"]

llol...the hell are you talking about? read post above

PinkieWinkie

I'm just curious; How did you get "Nobody cares about Graphics, disc swapping, and HD Resolution" out of "Your logic is seriously flawed if you think .1% of the gaming population cares about disc swapping."because last I checked, I never said anything about the general gaming population caring about Graphics and HD Resolution.

I really want to know; How in the absolute Hell did you get that?

....what?

I don't see the problem. Installation is optional, and swapping the disk 10-15 hours into the game (assuming it's as long as they say) is hardly an issue. Did it with ME2 and Dead Space 2 and that didn't affect my enjoyment of either game in any way.

When you consider that the PS3 version has a mandatory installs, it's even less troublesome.

I don't see the problem. Installation is optional, and swapping the disk 10-15 hours into the game (assuming it's as long as they say) is hardly an issue. Did it with ME2 and Dead Space 2 and that didn't affect my enjoyment of either game in any way.

When you consider that the PS3 version has a mandatory installs, it's even less troublesome.

IronBass

Alright so dont install the game then. Good luck with your texture poppin goals of 2011.PinkieWinkie

I am installing it (never said I wasn't going to).

Also, just out of curiosity, where are you getting that the texture pop-in is that bad when the game's uninstalled?

360 version is going to be the best selling version, all Id fans on PC will not be happy with Rage since its a console port and just now Id fans are getting mods right with Id tech 4, id tech 5 wont save Rage on PC

Only a person who started gaming this gen would have a problem changing discs! I have been doing it all my life with games like Monkey Island, Beneath a Steel Sky, Phantasmagoria, River, etc, etc...

Lol so if you dont install all 3 discs then you get mad texture poppin...but either way you are going to be switching discs. This basically guarantees the 360 version to get a lower score here at GS. Sucks if you only game on a 360....

PinkieWinkie

I will buy it on 360 exactly because i wont have to wait for an installation at all, you dont have to install the game on 360

That is what 360 si about, gaming, not waiting for installations in inferior systems

Well it's obvious that everyone with a decent PC is better off getting the PC version, but if you had to buy a console version the PS3 version looks better

[QUOTE="PinkieWinkie"]

Lol so if you dont install all 3 discs then you get mad texture poppin...but either way you are going to be switching discs. This basically guarantees the 360 version to get a lower score here at GS. Sucks if you only game on a 360....

loosingENDS

I will buy it on 360 exactly because i wont have to wait for an installation at all, you dont have to install the game on 360

That is what 360 si about, gaming, not waiting for installations in inferior systems

3 discs with texture poppins w/ no install. lawl.

I buy all my multiplats for the my 360. I'm also healthy, so getting up to change a disk isn't a big deal. With that said, I've played Borderlands & Fallout already, so I probably won't be playing Rage.

Twin-Blade

Got mah 360 version bought & paid for and simply can't wait to sink my teeth into a RAGE !!!!!

Oh and TC, in case you haven't already been told, the 360 does full installs like the PC and very unlike the PS3. :P

Didn't they already say that the 360 version looks slightly better? But then again they all look the same to me. So Either way..Xbox360

major texture popin? this has nothing to do with the required install on the ps3 or the disc based gameplay of the 360 version there have been games on the ps3 that had far more popin on the ps3 version even after a required install...and usually the 360's installs dominate over what the ps3's required installs actually do for you, they aren't just for decreasing noise they usually increase load times and clear up other problems far beyond what the ps3 versions required install does.

We've yet to even see the game compared in each version and its not even been released yet...so...

WilliamRLBaker

Got mah 360 version bought & paid for and simply can't wait to sink my teeth into a RAGE !!!!!

Oh and TC, in case you haven't already been told, the 360 does full installs like the PC and very unlike the PS3. :P

SecretPolice

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Got mah 360 version bought & paid for and simply can't wait to sink my teeth into a RAGE !!!!!

Oh and TC, in case you haven't already been told, the 360 does full installs like the PC and very unlike the PS3. :P

PinkieWinkie

Yeah because it needs a full install. PinkieWinkie

I asked before, so I'm going to ask again, where are you taking that from?

lol 3 discs for an FPS?tomarlyn

What does its genre have to do with anything?

Yeah because it needs a full install. The ps3 doesnt. Have fun waiting on that 22gb install and swapping 3 discs. Poor 360 gamers.PinkieWinkie

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]lol 3 discs for an FPS?IronBass

What does its genre have to do with anything?

Hope that helps :P

[QUOTE="PinkieWinkie"]Yeah because it needs a full install. IronBass

I asked before, so I'm going to ask again, where are you taking that from?

FPS typically don't have all the content big RPG's do (which typically came one multiple discs before), they don't need it.

Hope that helps :P

tomarlyn

The size of the data is not necessarily related to the amount of content a game has. There are plenty of other things that affect it.

Look it up yourself. Carmack himself stated that its either all or nothing but if you are honestly playing it on 360 you really should wait it out and do the full 22gb install.PinkieWinkie

First, it's not a 22GB install, since only two of the disks are for single player (what would be around 14-15GB), the third one is for the multiplayer.

Secondly, Carmack I never said pop in would be an issue, he said that installing would improve the game, but that's obvious, and applies to every game, that's the whole point of installing in the first place.

So please, post where exactly Carmack said pop in would be such a terrible issue than installing would be "mandatory".

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]FPS typically don't have all the content big RPG's do (which typically came one multiple discs before), they don't need it.

Hope that helps :P

IronBass

The size of the data is not necessarily related to the amount of content a game has. There are plenty of other things that affect it.

Still splitting my sides, its totally ridiculous in this day and age.tomarlyn

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Still splitting my sides, its totally ridiculous in this day and age.IronBass

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ri·dic·u·lous

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Deserving or inviting derision or mockery; absurd

• - when you realize how ridiculous these scenarios are, you will have to laugh

you cant do full game installs on ps3 only partial. lol hdd=faster than dvd or blu ray. you can do full game installs on xbox360. pwned?hohomerryhoho

Lol I clearly haven't been paying attention. Just goes to show that I need to play my ps3 a bit more :P So can you or someone else explain why it's just a partial install? Is this something with the ps3 hardware for why they can't do a full install? I hear people mention something about the OS in the ps3 but I'm not sure.

In any case if the ps3 only does a partial install then lol wouldn't that mean that it has to partially rely on the slow blu-ray drive hence resulting in more texture pop-in than the FULLY installed 360 version?

That actually just reinforces my decision to get the 360 version without question.

....and isn't it 2 discs for the campaign and 1 disc for multiplayer? So what's the problem? I'll get up once for the campaign to switch disks and I'm done...no biggie. Then once I'm done the multiplayer disc will sit in my 360 because that's where I'll end up spending my time in the end. Again... what's the problem LOL?

Lol, exaggerate much TC?

HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE:

A Fully installed Rage on the 360 plus getting up to switch disks only once>>>>>>>>>>>>>a partially installed rage on the ps3 which will result in texture pop-up due to having to partially rely on the slow blu-ray drive

Its not mandatory really...but the only reason why you wouldnt do it is because you dont have enough space.

"On the 360 we don't have a partial install option; it's all or nothing, which is kind of unfortunate. It means you have to install 21/22GB of stuff which takes a long time but if you've got it and you play it on the 360 that's the way to go." http://www.computerandvideogames.com/314526/rage-360-all-or-nothing-install-is-kind-of-unfortunate-carmack/

He said if you dont install it all there will be texture paging, aka texture pop in. Jesus dude you are like a little kid having to explain everything to you.

PinkieWinkie

First, that was already clarified later, and explained how you don't need the third disk.

Secondly, I already know installing improves how the game runs, that applies to every game (that's the whole point of installing).

That doesn't answer my question, where does he say "it needs to be installed", which has been your whole argument in this thread.

Ridiculous as in stupid, something that could and should have stopped post-128bit generation. tomarlyn

"Stupid" would imply that there's not an intelligent reason for it, or that is something that drastically affects the game experience. But that's not the case, either.

[QUOTE="hohomerryhoho"]you cant do full game installs on ps3 only partial. lol hdd=faster than dvd or blu ray. you can do full game installs on xbox360. pwned?T-razor1

Lol I clearly haven't been paying attention. Just goes to show that I need to play my ps3 a bit more :P So can you or someone else explain why it's just a partial install? Is this something with the ps3 hardware for why they can't do a full install? I hear people mention something about the OS in the ps3 but I'm not sure.

In any case if the ps3 only does a partial install then lol wouldn't that mean that it has to partially rely on the slow blu-ray drive hence resulting in more texture pop-in than the FULLY installed 360 version?

That actually just reinforces my decision to get the 360 version without question.

....and isn't it 2 discs for the campaign and 1 disc for multiplayer? So what's the problem? I'll get up once for the campaign to switch disks and I'm done...no biggie. Then once I'm done the multiplayer disc will sit in my 360 because that's where I'll end up spending my time in the end. Again... what's the problem LOL?

Lol, exaggerate much TC?

HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE:

A Fully installed Rage on the 360 plus getting up to switch disks only once>>>>>>>>>>>>>a partially installed rage on the ps3 which will result in texture pop-up due to having to partially rely on the slow blu-ray drive

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"]Still splitting my sides, its totally ridiculous in this day and age.tomarlyn

[QUOTE="T-razor1"]

[QUOTE="hohomerryhoho"]you cant do full game installs on ps3 only partial. lol hdd=faster than dvd or blu ray. you can do full game installs on xbox360. pwned?PinkieWinkie

Lol I clearly haven't been paying attention. Just goes to show that I need to play my ps3 a bit more :P So can you or someone else explain why it's just a partial install? Is this something with the ps3 hardware for why they can't do a full install? I hear people mention something about the OS in the ps3 but I'm not sure.

In any case if the ps3 only does a partial install then lol wouldn't that mean that it has to partially rely on the slow blu-ray drive hence resulting in more texture pop-in than the FULLY installed 360 version?

That actually just reinforces my decision to get the 360 version without question.

....and isn't it 2 discs for the campaign and 1 disc for multiplayer? So what's the problem? I'll get up once for the campaign to switch disks and I'm done...no biggie. Then once I'm done the multiplayer disc will sit in my 360 because that's where I'll end up spending my time in the end. Again... what's the problem LOL?

Lol, exaggerate much TC?

HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE:

A Fully installed Rage on the 360 plus getting up to switch disks only once>>>>>>>>>>>>>a partially installed rage on the ps3 which will result in texture pop-up due to having to partially rely on the slow blu-ray drive

But you're acting as though it's such a big deal. I'll get up once during the campaign :lol: Don't you see how silly you sound right now? LOL.

No actually it wasnt. If you dont install you get teture paging. l2read.PinkieWinkie

I'd get the 360 version over the PS3 version if it performs better. That's why I chose MoH on 360 instead of PS3. I don't care if the PS3 version comes with a free game, I'd way rather have the performance even if it's just slightly better, not to mention the 360 controller is WAY better suited for FPS'. That being said, if/when I do get it, it will be on PC.

Switching discs guarantees a lower score now? What?

DarkLink77

[QUOTE="PinkieWinkie"]No actually it wasnt. If you dont install you get teture paging. l2read.IronBass