As it comes down to it, you have the pseye tech and the natal tech, the pseye hardware is older then the natal camera but through programming it can do the exact same things, The natal hardware is newer and with programming can do any thing the pseye can do, But being newer hardware i would assume it would be more accurate.
so heres to hoping they provide sufficient competition to push both forward to greatness.
I hope there right! If it really is good, than it adds a whole other category of games for us to play, and there will still be controller games. I can't see why anyone would want this to fail. It's great for competition and it is one step closer to virtual reality!
I like that MS went for a different approach to motion controls and didn't just ripoff Nintendo like Sony
Yes natal is nothing like anything available *Looks at PSEYE* Yeah its just a PSeye with more depth...but somehow when people see it its like this thing form another world.
I like that MS went for a different approach to motion controls and didn't just ripoff Nintendo like Sony
Yes natal is nothing like anything available *Looks at PSEYE*Compare PSEYE to XBOX Vision not to NATAL which is far more advanced than either. PSeye was last gen on the PS2 :? Natal was clearly a more advanced ripoff.
As it comes down to it, you have the pseye tech and the natal tech, the pseye hardware is older then the natal camera but through programming it can do the exact same things, The natal hardware is newer and with programming can do any thing the pseye can do, But being newer hardware i would assume it would be more accurate.
so heres to hoping they provide sufficient competition to push both forward to greatness.
WilliamRLBaker
do you have a link that would back up your hypothesis?
As it comes down to it, you have the pseye tech and the natal tech, the pseye hardware is older then the natal camera but through programming it can do the exact same things, The natal hardware is newer and with programming can do any thing the pseye can do, But being newer hardware i would assume it would be more accurate. so heres to hoping they provide sufficient competition to push both forward to greatness. WilliamRLBaker
Uhh no it can't. It can't do voice recognition nor precise movement detection, nor depth detection, it's a lot more simplistic. The functionality is worlds apart.
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] As it comes down to it, you have the pseye tech and the natal tech, the pseye hardware is older then the natal camera but through programming it can do the exact same things, The natal hardware is newer and with programming can do any thing the pseye can do, But being newer hardware i would assume it would be more accurate. so heres to hoping they provide sufficient competition to push both forward to greatness. themyth01
Uhh no it can't. It can't do voice recognition nor precise movement detection, nor depth detection, it's a lot more simplistic. The functionality is worlds apart.
Everything you said can be obtain via updates. So its not something you won't expect it to have.
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] As it comes down to it, you have the pseye tech and the natal tech, the pseye hardware is older then the natal camera but through programming it can do the exact same things, The natal hardware is newer and with programming can do any thing the pseye can do, But being newer hardware i would assume it would be more accurate. so heres to hoping they provide sufficient competition to push both forward to greatness. tonitorsi
Uhh no it can't. It can't do voice recognition nor precise movement detection, nor depth detection, it's a lot more simplistic. The functionality is worlds apart.
Everything you said can be obtain via updates. So its not something you won't expect it to have.
You are telling me that a pseye will somehow be able to do this with a software update? Seriously, start knowing what you are talking about. It's like syaing that the wii will do ps3 graphics with a update.
Yes natal is nothing like anything available *Looks at PSEYE*Javy03
Compare PSEYE to XBOX Vision not to NATAL which is far more advanced than either. PSeye was last gen on the PS2 :? Natal was clearly a more advanced ripoff. that was the eyetoy genius
[QUOTE="themyth01"] Uhh no it can't. It can't do voice recognition nor precise movement detection, nor depth detection, it's a lot more simplistic. The functionality is worlds apart.
Communistsheep
Everything you said can be obtain via updates. So its not something you won't expect it to have.
You are telling me that a pseye will somehow be able to do this with a software update? Seriously, start knowing what you are talking about. It's like syaing that the wii will do ps3 graphics with a update.
didnt you hear? the wii can do crysis graphics, if you download the newest version of flash
[QUOTE="themyth01"] Uhh no it can't. It can't do voice recognition nor precise movement detection, nor depth detection, it's a lot more simplistic. The functionality is worlds apart.
Communistsheep
Everything you said can be obtain via updates. So its not something you won't expect it to have.
You are telling me that a pseye will somehow be able to do this with a software update? Seriously, start knowing what you are talking about. It's like syaing that the wii will do ps3 graphics with a update. Um are you really that lost in the odorous bowels of the Natal hype??? There was a recent tech demo that showed pretty accurate head tracking and facial recognition a couple of months back. Do you really believe Sony can't update the PS EYE for voice recognition? Not to mention *sigh* if you add the dumb wands the PS EYE shouldn't have a problem tracking your full body.
And the last time I check, which was last night FYI. When the Japanese girl was testing out Natal in the hotel room it wasn't very accurate. Not only was their major lag but the on screen avatars limbs looked like wet noodles when either of them moved around. :roll:
As it comes down to it, you have the pseye tech and the natal tech, the pseye hardware is older then the natal camera but through programming it can do the exact same things, The natal hardware is newer and with programming can do any thing the pseye can do, But being newer hardware i would assume it would be more accurate.
so heres to hoping they provide sufficient competition to push both forward to greatness.
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] As it comes down to it, you have the pseye tech and the natal tech, the pseye hardware is older then the natal camera but through programming it can do the exact same things, The natal hardware is newer and with programming can do any thing the pseye can do, But being newer hardware i would assume it would be more accurate. so heres to hoping they provide sufficient competition to push both forward to greatness. themyth01
Uhh no it can't. It can't do voice recognition nor precise movement detection, nor depth detection, it's a lot more simplistic. The functionality is worlds apart. LOL keep telling your self that, the Natal camera is more advanced then the pseye it uses more current technology, it has a mic last i checked, therefor is capable of speech recog, just as the ps eye is capable. Its capable of depth of field, and precise movement detection, the only difference is is programming its all in the programming, the natal camera being more current tech with the right programming will be more capable then the ps eye.
As it comes down to it, you have the pseye tech and the natal tech, the pseye hardware is older then the natal camera but through programming it can do the exact same things, The natal hardware is newer and with programming can do any thing the pseye can do, But being newer hardware i would assume it would be more accurate.
so heres to hoping they provide sufficient competition to push both forward to greatness.
Trmpt
Thats wrong.
actually its correct. the natal camera uses current technology so such programming techniques will be easier to impliment but they are not impossible on the pseye. Every thing is there to be used by the pseye but just in an older tech which will make it harder to adapt the programming but it can still be done.
As it comes down to it, you have the pseye tech and the natal tech, the pseye hardware is older then the natal camera but through programming it can do the exact same things, The natal hardware is newer and with programming can do any thing the pseye can do, But being newer hardware i would assume it would be more accurate.
so heres to hoping they provide sufficient competition to push both forward to greatness.
WilliamRLBaker
Thats wrong.
actually its correct. the natal camera uses current technology so such programming techniques will be easier to impliment but they are not impossible on the pseye. Every thing is there to be used by the pseye but just in an older tech which will make it harder to adapt the programming but it can still be done.
So you are saying that the pseye can imitate natal. Imitating hardware is completely different from actually doing what the hardware is capably of, therefore it will be like going from a Wii version of a game to one on the 360 or PS3.
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] As it comes down to it, you have the pseye tech and the natal tech, the pseye hardware is older then the natal camera but through programming it can do the exact same things, The natal hardware is newer and with programming can do any thing the pseye can do, But being newer hardware i would assume it would be more accurate. so heres to hoping they provide sufficient competition to push both forward to greatness. tonitorsi
Uhh no it can't. It can't do voice recognition nor precise movement detection, nor depth detection, it's a lot more simplistic. The functionality is worlds apart.
Everything you said can be obtain via updates. So its not something you won't expect it to have.
The eyetoy was set up for a 2D world interaction. Everything I said can be done with a code rewrite, as the current code base would most likely have to be rewritten, and the entire hardware would have to be redone for the added functionality, so anyone can do this with a couple of millions of lines of code and some advanced camera functions, simple enough.
[QUOTE="themyth01"] Uhh no it can't. It can't do voice recognition nor precise movement detection, nor depth detection, it's a lot more simplistic. The functionality is worlds apart.
themyth01
Everything you said can be obtain via updates. So its not something you won't expect it to have.
The eyetoy was set up for a 2D world interaction. Everything I said can be done with a code rewrite, as the current code base would most likely have to be rewritten, and the entire hardware would have to be redone for the added functionality, so anyone can do this with a couple of millions of lines of code and some advanced camera functions, simple enough. Hardware is not able (as far as I know) to be updated through software, you can only use software to update software. The pseye just doesnt have the hardware abilities that natal has, it wont 'see' in 3d as well as a camera that actually has 3d capabilities.
When it comes right down to it, a game is just a game. Nobody is revolutionizing anything. You can't turn a bad game good by changing the hardware of the machine it runs on.
[QUOTE="67gt500"]Looks like future installments of MGS might have found a new home...Burning-Sludge
There is no way anyone can play any game from the Metal Gear Solid series with Natal.
?... !... What about the sneaking?... and climbing?... and CQC moves?... and shooting?... and crawling? Every character action in MGS is a candidate for Natal... Why do you think Kojima's so excited?
As it comes down to it, you have the pseye tech and the natal tech, the pseye hardware is older then the natal camera but through programming it can do the exact same things, The natal hardware is newer and with programming can do any thing the pseye can do, But being newer hardware i would assume it would be more accurate.
so heres to hoping they provide sufficient competition to push both forward to greatness.
WilliamRLBaker
Most diffidently not. PsEye does not have a infrared depth camera, only a regular RGB camera. Natal has both along with a microphone and its own custom processor.
[QUOTE="67gt500"]Looks like future installments of MGS might have found a new home...67gt500
There is no way anyone can play any game from the Metal Gear Solid series with Natal.
?... !... What about the sneaking?... and climbing?... and CQC moves?... and shooting?... and crawling? Every character action in MGS is a candidate for Natal... Why do you think Kojima's so excited?
Is the next Metal Gear Solid game going to be a mini-game collection based on those concepts? No way anyone could do all of those things at the same time without button assistance or the game having poor controls due to the fancy hand gestures one would have to make. Having an all Natal Metal Gear Solid game is like having an all Balance Board Metroid game.
At the end of the day, the real way to actually get people hyped is to show off games that does work. If Kojima or some other game designer makes something spectacular out the tech, I will no doubt get a 360. But just don't turn this into the wii hd.
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