Just to clear it up, PS3 won the sales race, xbox 360 last place.

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#301 lundy86_4
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They shipped 70m, not sold! get your facts right

Meeeper282

Same with Sony. Sony and MS' numbers are shipped to retailers.

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#302 Meeeper282
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[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]

They shipped 70m, not sold! get your facts right

lundy86_4

Same with Sony. Sony and MS' numbers are shipped to retailers.

I know, that's what i'm trying to convince everyone else, microsoft and sony go by shipped numbers, not sold to consumers

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#303 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Wow lems are in full damage control lulzblackace
Cows are in FULL DESPERATION mode even though they ended up in LAST this generation. Just deal with it. Sony can't win all the time. Sorry.

Actually Sony lost like M$ this gen for sales. Both ended up tied in second place.
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#304 blackace
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]TC's figures are wrong anyway, Ps3 beagan the year at 62.0 million units http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642 If we add the 2 quaters from the TC's second link it's actually 68.3 million units sold It would appear that the link the TC posted does not match up with SONY's fiscal reports so one of them is wrong, according to SONY's fiscal reports the Ps3 finsihed last year at 62.0 Million LTD sales, according to the link the TC posted it finished last year with 63.9 million units LTD sales,it's a moot point anyway, I doubt the Ps3 has passed the 360 in sales , 360 was 70 Million units 2and a half months agoEven if the Ps3 was at 70.2 now, i doubt the 360 has failed to sell 200,000 consoles in the last 2 and a half months.

Well, we ALL know those figures are wrong from the TC, but it fun watching the Cows believe they are right, when they are so far off. New Generation starts tomorrow anyways. We'll have to wait and see how Sony does this time around. Hopefully they've learned some valuable lessons.
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#305 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Meeeper282"]

Obviously the 360 has sold alot within the past month, but the 360 hasn't sold 70m units to the consumers yet, meaning you have no argument

Meeeper282

you really are an idiot, MS announced the 360 had sold 70 million weeks ago.

They shipped 70m, not sold! get your facts right

SONY uses shipped numbers as well because you cannot get ant sellthrough Data from most countrys in europe you plumb, shipped are what everybody uses because it's the only accurate way of doing it.
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#306 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="kuraimen"]Wow lems are in full damage control lulzkuraimen
Cows are in FULL DESPERATION mode even though they ended up in LAST this generation. Just deal with it. Sony can't win all the time. Sorry.

Actually Sony lost like M$ this gen for sales. Both ended up tied in second place.

Until now I mean the gen lasts until the last console is discontinued.
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#307 blackace
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[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

Not to split hairs here but..

PS3 = 70.2

360 = 70.270 October's NPD

And that's assuming it didn't sell a single system anywhere else in the world for the month of October.. :roll:

You got one day Sony.. ;)

Meeeper282

are you an idiot, microsoft shipped 70m not sold!

OMG the stupidity in here is insane, i have now owned you 2 days in a row

Wow.. The PS3 sales are also SHIPPED and the totals are PS3 and PS2 sales combined. Now who is the idiot? lol!!
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#308 delta3074
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]

They shipped 70m, not sold! get your facts right

Meeeper282

Same with Sony. Sony and MS' numbers are shipped to retailers.

I know, that's what i'm trying to convince everyone else, microsoft and sony go by shipped numbers, not sold to consumers

Fair enough, but we already knew that, when we talk about sales it's 'sold to retailer' AkA, shipped numbers
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#309 radoman
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[QUOTE="radoman"]So you're saying that MS stealing away a significant share of the market from Sony is not a victory for MS and a failing on Sonys part?tormentos
How significant if any.? This generation isn't over and is already at 235 million units,last one was at 200,so there are 35 million more users this gen than last one and the generation isn't even over. Add to this that the xbox 360 has sell close to 3 times of what the original xbox sold,but it has also 3 more years on the market than the original xbox,and the original xbox did not had a huge 50% fail rate which force millions to re buy units. The wii actually got more market share from sony than MS did,both consoles are tied and the wii is some 30 million units ahead,the market share MS got wasn't all from sony,and many are re buy units.

None of your rationale and minimisation of the facts change the fact that xbox gained a massive share of the marketplace and a huge following while the playstation floundered and lost much of its share in the marketplace.

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#310 heretrix
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So basically it ends up where I said it would. By the time the PS3 catches up to the 360 it wouldn't matter at all. To make things worse it took Sony the entire generation to get to just barely sell as many units as their closest competitor.

Most importantly it shows how pathetic Sonyfanboys are to consider this anything but a colossal fail. How can anyone win a race in second place?

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="blackace"] Cows are in FULL DESPERATION mode even though they ended up in LAST this generation. Just deal with it. Sony can't win all the time. Sorry. kuraimen
Actually Sony lost like M$ this gen for sales. Both ended up tied in second place.

Until now I mean the gen lasts until the last console is discontinued.

The gen is over at midnight and Sony finished last :lol:

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#312 delta3074
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="blackace"] Cows are in FULL DESPERATION mode even though they ended up in LAST this generation. Just deal with it. Sony can't win all the time. Sorry.

Actually Sony lost like M$ this gen for sales. Both ended up tied in second place.

Until now I mean the gen lasts until the last console is discontinued.

is the Ps2 still selling? damn, i hope so, would be the first time a console has spanned 3 generations.
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#313 Cheleman
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:lol:

Lems are still going at it? didn't we already debunked those numbers?

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#314 delta3074
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Actually Sony lost like M$ this gen for sales. Both ended up tied in second place.JohnnyCageMK

Until now I mean the gen lasts until the last console is discontinued.

The gen is over at midnight and Sony finished last :lol:

No it isn't, it's the start of a NEW generation, this is true, but it's not the end of this one, your mother and father didn't cease to exist when you where born did they?
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#315 heretrix
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="blackace"] Cows are in FULL DESPERATION mode even though they ended up in LAST this generation. Just deal with it. Sony can't win all the time. Sorry. kuraimen
Actually Sony lost like M$ this gen for sales. Both ended up tied in second place.

Until now I mean the gen lasts until the last console is discontinued.

That's stupid. They are still selling PS2s. Does that mean there has been no new generation of consoles since it was introduced?

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#316 blackace
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[QUOTE="Meeeper282"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Same with Sony. Sony and MS' numbers are shipped to retailers.

delta3074

I know, that's what i'm trying to convince everyone else, microsoft and sony go by shipped numbers, not sold to consumers

Fair enough, but we already knew that, when we talk about sales it's 'sold to retailer' AkA, shipped numbers

Everyone should have known these numbers were ALL SHIPPED TO RETAILERS. Sony and Microsoft never post SHIPPED TO CONSUMER numbers. What people didn't know what the PS3 numbers also include the PS2 numbers. LOL!! In any case the XBox 360 2nd place lead isn't in jeopardy, especially with Black Friday just around the corner.
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#317 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Actually Sony lost like M$ this gen for sales. Both ended up tied in second place.heretrix

Until now I mean the gen lasts until the last console is discontinued.

That's stupid. They are still selling PS2s. Does that mean there has been no new generation of consoles since t

That one generation of console starts doesn't mean the other ends. Or is the PS2 suddenly a 7th gen console?
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]TC's figures are wrong anyway, Ps3 beagan the year at 62.0 million units http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642 If we add the 2 quaters from the TC's second link it's actually 68.3 million units sold It would appear that the link the TC posted does not match up with SONY's fiscal reports so one of them is wrong, according to SONY's fiscal reports the Ps3 finsihed last year at 62.0 Million LTD sales, according to the link the TC posted it finished last year with 63.9 million units LTD sales,it's a moot point anyway, I doubt the Ps3 has passed the 360 in sales , 360 was 70 Million units 2and a half months agoEven if the Ps3 was at 70.2 now, i doubt the 360 has failed to sell 200,000 consoles in the last 2 and a half months.

That is the problem right there... The PS3 started with 62 million by sony fiscal year ending which non of those 2 quarters you want to ad account for,the PS3 was at 64 million units. The PS3 started the year with 62 millions,but from January to march 31 the PS3 sold 2 million units more,which you are not counting,add to that the 2 quarters and that is how you get the 70 million,either way 70 million have been confirmed already.
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#319 TheEroica  Moderator
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:lol:

Lems are still going at it? didn't we already debunked those numbers?

Cheleman
Yes we already swooped in and destroyed another one of your cow willy wonka wonderland thread of fiction. All is normal again.
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#320 delta3074
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Actually Sony lost like M$ this gen for sales. Both ended up tied in second place.heretrix

Until now I mean the gen lasts until the last console is discontinued.

That's stupid. They are still selling PS2s. Does that mean there has been no new generation of consoles since it was introduced?

Different generations live side by side, in 2 days a NEW generation STARTS but that doesn't mean this generation is over.
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#321 Chris_Williams
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either way ps3 and 360 are tied for second place, kind of embarrasing for the 360 which had a year head start and a cheaper price

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#322 lundy86_4
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Different generations live side by side, in 2 days a NEW generation STARTS but that doesn't mean this generation is over.delta3074

In terms of the real world, no. In terms of System Wars and the metagame, it does.

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#323 delta3074
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="delta3074"]TC's figures are wrong anyway, Ps3 beagan the year at 62.0 million units http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=461642 If we add the 2 quaters from the TC's second link it's actually 68.3 million units sold It would appear that the link the TC posted does not match up with SONY's fiscal reports so one of them is wrong, according to SONY's fiscal reports the Ps3 finsihed last year at 62.0 Million LTD sales, according to the link the TC posted it finished last year with 63.9 million units LTD sales,it's a moot point anyway, I doubt the Ps3 has passed the 360 in sales , 360 was 70 Million units 2and a half months agoEven if the Ps3 was at 70.2 now, i doubt the 360 has failed to sell 200,000 consoles in the last 2 and a half months.

That is the problem right there... The PS3 started with 62 million by sony fiscal year ending which non of those 2 quarters you want to ad account for,the PS3 was at 64 million units. The PS3 started the year with 62 millions,but from January to march 31 the PS3 sold 2 million units more,which you are not counting,add to that the 2 quarters and that is how you get the 70 million,either way 70 million have been confirmed already.

the Second link was combined hardware sales dude, that has been established already.
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#324 JohnnyCageMK
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MS won this gen by default since 360 is the only gaming console. PS3 is a blu ray player and Wii is a toy.

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#325 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]Different generations live side by side, in 2 days a NEW generation STARTS but that doesn't mean this generation is over.lundy86_4

In terms of the real world, no. In terms of System Wars and the metagame, it does.

True, as Far as the Metagame is concerned the winner is determined at the beginning of the Next generation.
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#326 tormentos
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="kuraimen"] Actually Sony lost like M$ this gen for sales. Both ended up tied in second place.heretrix

Until now I mean the gen lasts until the last console is discontinued.

That's stupid. They are still selling PS2s. Does that mean there has been no new generation of consoles since it was introduced?

The PS2 outsold the xbox 360 until 2008...So yeah the generation is not over when a new one start.
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#327 Meeeper282
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Look at the end of the day, both sony and microsoft shipped 70m, meaning it's a tie! no one sold more then the other.

Happy? cause that's the truth.

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#328 Cheleman
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[QUOTE="Cheleman"]

:lol:

Lems are still going at it? didn't we already debunked those numbers?

TheEroica

Yes we already swooped in and destroyed another one of your cow willy wonka wonderland thread of fiction. All is normal again.

My thread?:?

It's Mr. Mozelleple's thread you silly:P

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#329 radoman
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either way ps3 and 360 are tied for second place, kind of embarrasing for the 360 which had a year head start and a cheaper price

Chris_Williams

Not really embarassing considering the 360 kept the lead (second to the wii) for the duration of the entire generation despite having one territory less than sony (Japan). Also, lets not forget how successful the 360 was for software sales.

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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

either way ps3 and 360 are tied for second place, kind of embarrasing for the 360 which had a year head start and a cheaper price

radoman

Not really embarassing considering the 360 kept the lead for the duration of the entire generation despite having one territory less than sony (Japan). Also, lets not forget how successful the 360 was for software sales.

The 360 had one year headstart so that's not exactly something to brag about.
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#331 blackace
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:lol:

Lems are still going at it? didn't we already debunked those numbers?

Cheleman
Yeah, Lems probably don't even need to post in here anymore. We all know those numbers are wrong and the PS3 is still in last place. There are no ties. Not sure why cows keep saying that. It's pretty hilarious though.
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#332 AmazonTreeBoa
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When I say 'won' I obviously mean behind the Wii of course.

PS3 = 70.2 millionPROOF

360 = 70 million

Those are the LAST numbers before the Wii-Us release. So there you go.

1. Wii

2. PS3

3. 360

Lets see which console has the strongest legs and ends up selling the most overall. but the race is over.

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Don't be so slow. The race isn't over until they stop making PS3/360s and people stop buying them.
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True, as Far as the Metagame is concerned the winner is determined at the beginning of the Next generation.delta3074

Kind of a sad end to this one... Rather anti-climactic :P

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#334 radoman
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[QUOTE="radoman"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

either way ps3 and 360 are tied for second place, kind of embarrasing for the 360 which had a year head start and a cheaper price

kuraimen

Not really embarassing considering the 360 kept the lead for the duration of the entire generation despite having one territory less than sony (Japan). Also, lets not forget how successful the 360 was for software sales.

The 360 had one year headstart so that's not exactly something to brag about.

Yet the wii surpassed the 360 very quickly and the ps3 still hasnt managed. Embarrasing for sony.

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[QUOTE="Da_Koolio_Gamer"]

I'm guessing the 360 sold more than 2 million since last month, due to halo 4 so 360>PS3 in sales

Meeeper282

you have no proof so shutup

Plus who cares, nintendo is the real king :cool:

Yeah right after PC. ;)
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#336 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]True, as Far as the Metagame is concerned the winner is determined at the beginning of the Next generation.lundy86_4

Kind of a sad end to this one... Rather anti-climactic :P

Tell me about it, Lest hope the next gen is a little more exiting:)
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the Second link was combined hardware sales dude, that has been established already.delta3074
On your post you forgot sony last quarter,which bring the PS3 to 64 million units not 62,62 was on january and was reported on February your own link confirms it. Either way confirmed 70 million by sony both consoles are tied.
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#338 kuraimen
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Yet the wii surpassed the 360 very quickly and the ps3 still hasnt managed. Embarrasing for sony.

radoman
Lol so that the Wii surpassed the 360 quickly is embarrassing for Sony and not the 360? lulz oh lem where is your head at?
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#339 GamerwillzPS
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Wow. This thread has definitely exploded. :lol:

Butthurt lems are upset about being in last place.

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#340 blackace
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This Generation. 1) Wii 2) XBox 360 3) PS3 Nuff said. Next Generation 1) Wii U 2) ? 3) ?
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#341 radoman
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[QUOTE="radoman"]

Yet the wii surpassed the 360 very quickly and the ps3 still hasnt managed. Embarrasing for sony.

kuraimen

Lol so that the Wii surpassed the 360 quickly is embarrassing for Sony and not the 360? lulz oh lem where is your head at?

Er yeah. Took the wii what a year n change? How long did it take the ps3 to surpass the 360 again?

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#342 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"]the Second link was combined hardware sales dude, that has been established already.tormentos
On your post you forgot sony last quarter,which bring the PS3 to 64 million units not 62,62 was on january and was reported on February your own link confirms it. Either way confirmed 70 million by sony both consoles are tied.

But the 360 was at 70 million 1 and a half months before the Ps3
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#343 GamerwillzPS
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MS won this gen by default since 360 is the only gaming console. PS3 is a blu ray player and Wii is a toy.

JohnnyCageMK

:lol:

Check out my latest blog to see why the 360 is NOT a gaming console.

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#344 JohnnyCageMK
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Wow. This thread has definitely exploded. :lol:

Butthurt lems are upset about being in last place.

GamerwillzPS

Sorry bro but PS3 finished last. It's a terrible console that I'm already having buyers remorse over because it has no games.

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[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Wow. This thread has definitely exploded. :lol:

Butthurt lems are upset about being in last place.

JohnnyCageMK

Sorry bro but PS3 finished last. It's a terrible console that I'm already having buyers remorse over because it has no games.

This thread proves otherwise! :lol:

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#346 lundy86_4
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Wow. This thread has definitely exploded. :lol:

Butthurt lems are upset about being in last place.

GamerwillzPS

They are tied. That, or we can estimate the PS2 shipment figures and deduct those from the 70 million numbers... If you would like.

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#347 radoman
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[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

Wow. This thread has definitely exploded. :lol:

Butthurt lems are upset about being in last place.

GamerwillzPS

Sorry bro but PS3 finished last. It's a terrible console that I'm already having buyers remorse over because it has no games.

This thread proves otherwise! :lol:

It doesnt really though does it.

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#348 blackace
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[QUOTE="radoman"]

Yet the wii surpassed the 360 very quickly and the ps3 still hasnt managed. Embarrasing for sony.

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Lol so that the Wii surpassed the 360 quickly is embarrassing for Sony and not the 360? lulz oh lem where is your head at?

Well yeah when the Playstation was 1st two years in a row and end up LAST this generation. XBox went from 3rd to2nd. Also sold 2x's as many XBox 360 in Japan then they did with the original XBox. Sony did the complete opposite this generation. So yes, that's pretty embarrassing.
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#349 CanYouDiglt
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This is just another thread that shows just how young the Sony fanbase is. You really can tell just by seeing their fans on here that the Sony hardcore is very young. That is why Sony's games are dolls driving toy cars, cartoon animals, and games like Wonderbook.
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#350 blackace
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="radoman"]

Yet the wii surpassed the 360 very quickly and the ps3 still hasnt managed. Embarrasing for sony.

radoman

Lol so that the Wii surpassed the 360 quickly is embarrassing for Sony and not the 360? lulz oh lem where is your head at?

Er yeah. Took the wii what a year n change? How long did it take the ps3 to surpass the 360 again?

It still hasn't. LOL!! It'll be 6 years next year.