Is Phil Spencer just Mattrick 2.0 really what has changed from Xbox One to X-Series especially as far as games?

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Last gen people here know I bought the call of duty xb1 (Xbox had the marketing deal with Advanced Warfare) They had a ton of big hitting games at launch Dead Rising 3, Forza 5, and Ryse. This gen they have absolutely nothing to start off the generation with Phil Spencer's X-Series while Sony is coming out really hard with tons of games like Demon Soul's, Miles, Returnal...

Xbox didn't do a big hitter marketing deal with CoD I also bought Halo MCC couple months later that first year when I bought it. Literally no reason to get one right now unlike last gen with the xb1 i had a ton of reasons tht first year.

What has changed from Xbox one to X_Series as far as strategy?

It seems like the box looks uglier than Xbox One S to me (personally) The price seems like the only thing its beating last generation on its the same price as a ps5 instead of 100 more and weaker.

This gen it might be slightly more powerful with a worse SSD than the PS5 which is better WAY better than last gen.

The controller is the same which isn't the worst but I still vastly prefer the dual shock 4 over the xbone controller for my PC gaming. Haven't even tried the dual sense and xbox guys are swearing that its another level on top of the dual shock 4 even like Ryan McCaffrey said its the only playstation controller he will use now thats a really bad sign for the x-series controller if it keeps improving an xbox stays stagnate on that front.

Is Phil really turning things around from the xb1 generation or just doing the same old same old as mattrick maybe even less?

Please don't mention gamepass I like to buy and own my digital games an keep em on my drive an play on my terms what I want when I want.

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#3  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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What's changed? No Kinect, no HDMI input & guide, and no launch titles but BC in at launch this time

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GamePass is where it is at.

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@girlusocrazy said:

What's changed? No Kinect, no HDMI input & guide, and no launch titles...

Exactly Mattrick unbundled the kinect right away and thats when I bought it with AW bundle without the kinect than Phil came in and said he removed it.

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Exactly Mattrick unbundled the kinect right away...

That is false and GamePass is the new thing for Xbox.

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They're just the face of Xbox, they don't decide anything.

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#8  Edited By navyguy21
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Oh God, normally I'm not in favor of a thread limit but this is getting out of control

The industry is talking about MS regularly in a positive light.

That's what Spencer did.

He doesn't have to answer to fanboys (or even fans) on a forum.

People think he is doing a good job and are writing about it.

From BC push to One X and ditching Kinect all the way up to Game Pass.

Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean others don't.

The industry has taken notice, so have cows judging by the threads on the first page.

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#9  Edited By DaVillain-  Moderator
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@ProtossRushX said:

Please don't mention gamepass

πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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@davillain- said:

Looks good to me. πŸ˜‚

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You cows really need to take some time off the forums, you really have gone insane... this level of obsession isn't healthy.

Go play your Playstations (if you actually own them), or your pretend PCs.

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Oh God, normally I'm not in favor of a thread limit but this is getting out of control

C'Mon bro I could be gone soon I made a crazy ass bet just getting a few jabs in at MS before I lose this thing lol.

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@ProtossRushX said:
@navyguy21 said:

Oh God, normally I'm not in favor of a thread limit but this is getting out of control

C'Mon bro I could be gone soon I made a crazy ass bet just getting a few jabs in at MS before I lose this thing lol.

And you will reappear as an alt like many others. 🀭

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You cows really need to take some time off the forums, you really have gone insane... this level of obsession isn't healthy.

Go play your Playstations (if you actually own them), or your pretend PCs.

Play what? Returnal for the hundredth time? The Sony fannies on here hate indies and everything not Sony, so what else they are going to do. πŸ˜‰

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

You cows really need to take some time off the forums, you really have gone insane... this level of obsession isn't healthy.

Go play your Playstations (if you actually own them), or your pretend PCs.

I can't find a PS5 atm or an X-Series X my PS4 isn't seeing much play right now. I'm mainly PC/Switch gaming just calling out xbox for lack of improvement this gen tho.

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Xbox was far more successful and had far more games when Donnie M was running the show. These nerds hated him because he was a businessman who didn't try to pretend he was one of them, but the fact is he was good at his job and far more qualified than that clown Philip Spence.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Xbox was far more successful and had far more games when Donnie M was running the show. These nerds hated him because he was a businessman who didn't try to pretend he was one of them, but the fact is he was good at his job and far more qualified than that clown Philip Spence.

Yeah Phillipe Little S reminds me of that EA CEO he says hes a gamer or something or he was a dev at one time and worked his way up the company like that mcdonalds CEO who started there serving fries. BRO i want my CEO to be a big baller like Donnie M or Bobby K. Not these people who did some stuff to get where they are.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Xbox was far more successful and had far more games when Donnie M was running the show. These nerds hated him because he was a businessman who didn't try to pretend he was one of them, but the fact is he was good at his job and far more qualified than that clown Philip Spence.

Now Don Mattrick was better for Xbox??? πŸ˜‚

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@ProtossRushX said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Xbox was far more successful and had far more games when Donnie M was running the show. These nerds hated him because he was a businessman who didn't try to pretend he was one of them, but the fact is he was good at his job and far more qualified than that clown Philip Spence.

Yeah Phillipe Little S reminds me of that EA CEO he says hes a gamer or something or he was a dev at one time and worked his way up the company like that mcdonalds CEO who started there serving fries. BRO i want my CEO to be a big baller like Donnie M or Bobby K. Not these people who did some stuff to get where they are.

The benchwarmer mentality for these errand boys like Philip Spence sticks with them when they receive a promotion they don't deserve. One day he's bringing coffee to Donnie M and the next day he's taking his job because some nerds took to social media to cry over not being able to connect to the internet, or because they think Kinect wants to record them chugging Mountain Dew and picking boogers.

Philip was quickly exposed as having no idea how to run a brand. Xbox has less games than ever before. It is more culturally irrelevant than ever before. Sales have gotten so bad under his watch that he is ashamed to announce what they are.

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@Pedro said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

You cows really need to take some time off the forums, you really have gone insane... this level of obsession isn't healthy.

Go play your Playstations (if you actually own them), or your pretend PCs.

Play what? Returnal for the hundredth time? The Sony fannies on here hate indies and everything not Sony, so what else they are going to do. πŸ˜‰

Lol, true. It's funny how they say MS has no games, but PS5 is looking equally bare right now & we know next to nothing on what they have coming (besides Horizon & Ratchet).

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

You cows really need to take some time off the forums, you really have gone insane... this level of obsession isn't healthy.

Go play your Playstations (if you actually own them), or your pretend PCs.

I can't find a PS5 atm or an X-Series X my PS4 isn't seeing much play right now. I'm mainly PC/Switch gaming just calling out xbox for lack of improvement this gen tho.

You think Xbox hasn't improved since 2013? Gtfo. Atleast try harder.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

You cows really need to take some time off the forums, you really have gone insane... this level of obsession isn't healthy.

Go play your Playstations (if you actually own them), or your pretend PCs.

I can't find a PS5 atm or an X-Series X my PS4 isn't seeing much play right now. I'm mainly PC/Switch gaming just calling out xbox for lack of improvement this gen tho.

You think Xbox hasn't improved since 2013? Gtfo. Atleast try harder.

Well name me 3 launch games as good as Dead Rising 3 Ryse and Forza 5 for X-Series if it improved from 2013 so much uh hum.

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The obsession omg 🀣

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Nope, I feel that Phil Spencer has been much better for Xbox then Don Mattrick was. Xbox has been getting a bunch of games that typically have never been on the platform before.

- Dragon Quest games

- many of the earlier Final Fantasy games

- previous Kingdom Hearts games

- Phantasy Star Online 2 and now New Genesis

- the Yakuza games

Just to name a few.

Also Game Pass is a fantastic value for gamers. Add in the acquisitions they’ve recently made especially the Bethesda one which was an absolute bombshell and I really like the direction that they are headed in. They have a fantastic catalog of IP’s to work with and some very promising stuff in the pipeline.

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@Archangel3371: Try not to be too happy now. You know how upsetting that tends to be. πŸ˜‰

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only 4 more days until the TC gets deleted then we have less of these stupid threads

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@regnaston said:

only 4 more days until the TC gets deleted then we have less of these stupid threads

The same stupid threads just under a new name.

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@Pedro said:
@regnaston said:

only 4 more days until the TC gets deleted then we have less of these stupid threads

The same stupid threads just under a new name.

true lol

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@ProtossRushX said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

You cows really need to take some time off the forums, you really have gone insane... this level of obsession isn't healthy.

Go play your Playstations (if you actually own them), or your pretend PCs.

I can't find a PS5 atm or an X-Series X my PS4 isn't seeing much play right now. I'm mainly PC/Switch gaming just calling out xbox for lack of improvement this gen tho.

You think Xbox hasn't improved since 2013? Gtfo. Atleast try harder.

Well name me 3 launch games as good as Dead Rising 3 Ryse and Forza 5 for X-Series if it improved from 2013 so much uh hum.

Oh so that's the measure of how much they have improved is it? Hmm ok. Well if that's the case, then Sony has gotten a lot worse since 2013... because their PS5 launch line-up is pathetic.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

You cows really need to take some time off the forums, you really have gone insane... this level of obsession isn't healthy.

Go play your Playstations (if you actually own them), or your pretend PCs.

I can't find a PS5 atm or an X-Series X my PS4 isn't seeing much play right now. I'm mainly PC/Switch gaming just calling out xbox for lack of improvement this gen tho.

You think Xbox hasn't improved since 2013? Gtfo. Atleast try harder.

Well name me 3 launch games as good as Dead Rising 3 Ryse and Forza 5 for X-Series if it improved from 2013 so much uh hum.

Oh so that's the measure of how much they have improved is it? Hmm ok. Well if that's the case, then Sony has gotten a lot worse since 2013... because their PS5 launch line-up is pathetic.

Name a PS4 launch game better than Demon's Souls, Miles Morales, Returnal or R&C Rift Apart.

We're 7 months into this gen and Microsoft still hasn't released anything. It's unprecedented for a new console to have zero first party games at this point. This is why you lemmings aren't even buying an XSX lol.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

You cows really need to take some time off the forums, you really have gone insane... this level of obsession isn't healthy.

Go play your Playstations (if you actually own them), or your pretend PCs.

I can't find a PS5 atm or an X-Series X my PS4 isn't seeing much play right now. I'm mainly PC/Switch gaming just calling out xbox for lack of improvement this gen tho.

You think Xbox hasn't improved since 2013? Gtfo. Atleast try harder.

Well name me 3 launch games as good as Dead Rising 3 Ryse and Forza 5 for X-Series if it improved from 2013 so much uh hum.

Oh so that's the measure of how much they have improved is it? Hmm ok. Well if that's the case, then Sony has gotten a lot worse since 2013... because their PS5 launch line-up is pathetic.

Name me a PS4 launch game better than Miles and Demon Soul's PS4 had a horrible launch if i remember right. PS5 is improving on that front imo.

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Name me a PS4 launch game better than Miles and Demon Soul's PS4 had a horrible launch if i remember right. PS5 is improving on that front imo.

Miles Morales is also on the PS4 and Demon's Souls is on the PS3. 😎

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@Pedro said:
@ProtossRushX said:

Name me a PS4 launch game better than Miles and Demon Soul's PS4 had a horrible launch if i remember right. PS5 is improving on that front imo.

Miles Morales is also on the PS4 and Demon's Souls is on the PS3. 😎

Demon Souls Remake is a full blown remake its not a remaster completely different game.

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@ProtossRushX said:

Demon Souls Remake is a full blown remake its not a remaster completely different game.

It is not a a completely different game. It is a reskin of a an old game.

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@Pedro said:
@ProtossRushX said:

Demon Souls Remake is a full blown remake its not a remaster completely different game.

It is not a a completely different game. It is a reskin of a an old game.

Its not a reskin its on a different engine

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@regnaston said:

only 4 more days until the TC gets deleted then we have less of these stupid threads

Hmmm, be sure to remind me in 4 days just to make sure he walks the plank.

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#36  Edited By WonderWinner
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It's amazing how protoss makes lemmings triggered and angry. Y'all can't help yourselves but give this guy the attention he wants and he makes you all upset all the time. Ignore him next time or keep making a fool of yourselves. πŸ˜†

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@ProtossRushX said:

Its not a reskin its on a different engine

That is a reskin.

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#38  Edited By Pedro
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@davillain- said:
@regnaston said:

only 4 more days until the TC gets deleted then we have less of these stupid threads

Hmmm, be sure to remind me in 4 days just to make sure he walks the plank.

I will also remind you. 😈

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@davillain- said:
@regnaston said:

only 4 more days until the TC gets deleted then we have less of these stupid threads

Hmmm, be sure to remind me in 4 days just to make sure he walks the plank.

on it chief 😁

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What an idiotic thread, just wow.

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@Pedro said:
@ProtossRushX said:

Its not a reskin its on a different engine

That is a reskin.

Reskins use the same engine and upgrade textures ala MCC this is a remake dude completely different.

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@Pedro: Tell me about it. It never ceases to amuse me how some people get all worked up over me enjoying stuff that they don’t. πŸ˜…

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#43  Edited By Pedro
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@ProtossRushX said:

Reskins use the same engine and upgrade textures ala MCC this is a remake dude completely different.

It is the same game dude.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@ProtossRushX said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@ProtossRushX said:

I can't find a PS5 atm or an X-Series X my PS4 isn't seeing much play right now. I'm mainly PC/Switch gaming just calling out xbox for lack of improvement this gen tho.

You think Xbox hasn't improved since 2013? Gtfo. Atleast try harder.

Well name me 3 launch games as good as Dead Rising 3 Ryse and Forza 5 for X-Series if it improved from 2013 so much uh hum.

Oh so that's the measure of how much they have improved is it? Hmm ok. Well if that's the case, then Sony has gotten a lot worse since 2013... because their PS5 launch line-up is pathetic.

Name a PS4 launch game better than Demon's Souls, Miles Morales, Returnal or R&C Rift Apart.

We're 7 months into this gen and Microsoft still hasn't released anything. It's unprecedented for a new console to have zero first party games at this point. This is why you lemmings aren't even buying an XSX lol.

Returnal & Ratchet aren't launch games... Demon Souls is a remake, and Miles Morales is a PS4 game. But hey, keep trying :)

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#45  Edited By Pedro
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Returnal & Ratchet aren't launch games... Demon Souls is a remake, and Miles Morales is a PS4 game. But hey, keep trying :)

Launch games are any game released before Halo Infinite. πŸ˜‰

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@hrt_rulz01 said:
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You think Xbox hasn't improved since 2013? Gtfo. Atleast try harder.

Well name me 3 launch games as good as Dead Rising 3 Ryse and Forza 5 for X-Series if it improved from 2013 so much uh hum.

Oh so that's the measure of how much they have improved is it? Hmm ok. Well if that's the case, then Sony has gotten a lot worse since 2013... because their PS5 launch line-up is pathetic.

Name a PS4 launch game better than Demon's Souls, Miles Morales, Returnal or R&C Rift Apart.

We're 7 months into this gen and Microsoft still hasn't released anything. It's unprecedented for a new console to have zero first party games at this point. This is why you lemmings aren't even buying an XSX lol.

Returnal & Ratchet aren't launch games... Demon Souls is a remake, and Miles Morales is a PS4 game. But hey, keep trying :)

Ok so halo infinite won't count because its not at launch AND its on xbox one so its like the worst kinda double bad launch exclusive

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@ProtossRushX said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:
@ProtossRushX said:

Well name me 3 launch games as good as Dead Rising 3 Ryse and Forza 5 for X-Series if it improved from 2013 so much uh hum.

Oh so that's the measure of how much they have improved is it? Hmm ok. Well if that's the case, then Sony has gotten a lot worse since 2013... because their PS5 launch line-up is pathetic.

Name a PS4 launch game better than Demon's Souls, Miles Morales, Returnal or R&C Rift Apart.

We're 7 months into this gen and Microsoft still hasn't released anything. It's unprecedented for a new console to have zero first party games at this point. This is why you lemmings aren't even buying an XSX lol.

Returnal & Ratchet aren't launch games... Demon Souls is a remake, and Miles Morales is a PS4 game. But hey, keep trying :)

Ok so halo infinite won't count because its not at launch AND its on xbox one so its like the worst kinda double bad launch exclusive

Nice deflection :)

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#48  Edited By WonderWinner
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@hrt_rulz01: "Returnal & Ratchet aren't launch games... Demon Souls is a remake, and Miles Morales is a PS4 game. But hey, keep trying :)"

By this logic, MS have virtually no launch game and never will have since they'll all be on xone for at last 2 years.

You just made a fool of yourself. 🀣

Xbox lost.

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@wonderwinner said:

@hrt_rulz01: "Returnal & Ratchet aren't launch games... Demon Souls is a remake, and Miles Morales is a PS4 game. But hey, keep trying :)"

By this logic, MS have virtually no launch game and never will have since they'll all be on xone for at last 2 years.

You just made a fool of yourself. 🀣

Xbox lost.

You can keep telling yourself whatever you want... doesn't change the point I was making that if Xbox hasn't improved since 2013 going off that metric, then either has Sony :)

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#50  Edited By sakaiXx
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Xbox not release any first party games for almost a year now.