Is Phil Spencer just Mattrick 2.0 really what has changed from Xbox One to X-Series especially as far as games?

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#101 navyguy21
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sony hasn't been consistently failing for years on end, so they are not under pressure, xbox is.

I can assure you phil spencer is not going to make it past 2022. This dude has been at the head at the xbox division for 7 years now and what does he has to show for.

Nothing, the xbox kept on consistenly selling worse than the ps4, even after the xboxone x, and even after gamepass, and don't give me that bs that gamepass has 23 million subscribers,

I'm one of those subscribers, it's so cheap with the gold upgrade system that it might as well be free, and it's overrated, none of these games are really interesting, and the ones that are interesting I already bought when they released ages ago.

They had the highest revenue for Xbox this year. 😎

yeah because the xbox 360 never made any money because of all the investments it had to make for xboxlive.

highest of a bad revenue is still a bad revenue

Bad revenue?

Revenue can be bad?

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#102 Moistcarrot
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He pretty much saved the xbox brand.

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#103 shellcase86
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@navyguy21 said:
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Xbox was far more successful and had far more games when Donnie M was running the show. These nerds hated him because he was a businessman who didn't try to pretend he was one of them, but the fact is he was good at his job and far more qualified than that clown Philip Spence.

Interesting point.

Can someone do a top 10 games released under Don and Phil's leadership? That would be an interesting perspective.

I could.

Jim Ryan Leadership

Miles Morales

Demon Souls Remake

Ratchet and Clank

Returnal

Phil's leadership

Nodda on X-Series

Mattrick Leadership

Dead Rising 3

Ryse Son of Rome

Forza 5

Halo MCC

Don Mattrick left in Mid 2013 prior to X1 launch . You could argue he was responsible for the launch titles but Spencer took over early 2014 after being led in the interim by CEO Steve Ballmer.

Sure, Xbox had more launch titles but a lot of them were 3rd party deals. Mattrick famously considered first party titles and new ips to be a risk. He led the charge to divest in first parties and focus on becoming an entertainment box, not to mention the whole online requirement and suggesting people buy a 360 if they didn't like it.

He is directly responsible for the failure of Xbox One, from design to focus on anything other than games. He joined Xbox in 2007 when 360 was running on all cylinders and started to cut back on games and the last few years of 360 were as dry as a desert.

At least Phil has managed to change the narrative and invest in first party studios. He also got rid of Kinect and released consoles that actually looked like consoles.

I definitely agree that we haven't seen many first party games but they have 23 studios. I wonder what your argument will be when they start releasing games on PC and Xbox.

I have none, I'm interested to see what their studios will put out. I'm not a big follower of Xbox games, so I was curious as to their different impacts. Interesting list, thanks.

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#104 Amin_and_Azizah
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Last gen people here know I bought the call of duty xb1 (Xbox had the marketing deal with Advanced Warfare) They had a ton of big hitting games at launch Dead Rising 3, Forza 5, and Ryse. This gen they have absolutely nothing to start off the generation with Phil Spencer's X-Series while Sony is coming out really hard with tons of games like Demon Soul's, Miles, Returnal...

Xbox didn't do a big hitter marketing deal with CoD I also bought Halo MCC couple months later that first year when I bought it. Literally no reason to get one right now unlike last gen with the xb1 i had a ton of reasons tht first year.

What has changed from Xbox one to X_Series as far as strategy?

It seems like the box looks uglier than Xbox One S to me (personally) The price seems like the only thing its beating last generation on its the same price as a ps5 instead of 100 more and weaker.

This gen it might be slightly more powerful with a worse SSD than the PS5 which is better WAY better than last gen.

The controller is the same which isn't the worst but I still vastly prefer the dual shock 4 over the xbone controller for my PC gaming. Haven't even tried the dual sense and xbox guys are swearing that its another level on top of the dual shock 4 even like Ryan McCaffrey said its the only playstation controller he will use now thats a really bad sign for the x-series controller if it keeps improving an xbox stays stagnate on that front.

Is Phil really turning things around from the xb1 generation or just doing the same old same old as mattrick maybe even less?

Please don't mention gamepass I like to buy and own my digital games an keep em on my drive an play on my terms what I want when I want.

I need to have a seat and address what you said head on. First you don't even want us to mention Game Pass. Game Pass is the strategy that they're using this generation. They're not battling Sony when it comes to Home console sold anymore. They don't care about system sales at this point. The goal is to sell Game Pass. They are not really too concerned about building up their own first party Library. They want to get exclusive on Game Pass which is why they are buying up companies as we speak. It is all to entice people to join Game Pass. Now I guess you can look at that as building up their own first party Studios but the way I see it it is more about having exclusives on Game Pass. And they are using these acquisitions to do that but by way of second party Studios not necessarily first party. At the end of the day they are not competing with Sony the same way that they used to do. The game is different now. They are trying to become the Netflix of Gaming.

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#105  Edited By killerpainrulez
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jim ryan=don mattrick 2.0, he's turned playstation into thirdpersonmoviegamestation