Is Call of Duty a series for casual gamers?

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"]Yes it is. And I've played plenty of Halo, I know the call outs for narrows for exampel, R1, L1, R2, L2 top mid etc lol. Halo fans are way to defensive, I'm not even bashing Halo, it's just beyond ridiculous that you guys think Cod is casual and Halo isn't. That's just ansurd reasoning. Gamtrix

they are stubborn because you haven't given us a GT to show you have actually played it.

just give us your GT and I think we will all respect your opinion. :D

[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"] What no. If it was easy to master, it would be easy to master for everyone thus making it hard to master. To call Cod casual and Halo hardcore is absurd. Halo is a much more simple straight forward game. Cod is way more "complex" then Halo is. And don't even try to say "competitive Halo" theres competitive Cod too. Gamtrix

Made a thread it got locked.

Ok, this is by far the most biased board I have ever been on when it comes to Halo. The games are treated as a Religion. You can't bash it or your trolling, you can't compare a game to it or it's insulting Halo. If someone makes a X game vs Halo and you pick X game your a fakeboy or a fanboy.

Theres a thread on the first page asking if Cod is casual. I can understand people saying yes or no, I personally said yes. What I can't understand is how someone can say, Cod is casual but Halo isn't. They both have competitive playlists, MLG, Barebones, Hardcore, Search and Destroy. They both have mass casual appeal, Halo has it even more do to the art style, I'm pretty sure Cod has a higher "rating" making it appeal to a more restrict fanbase, May be wrong didn't confirm this.

Halo is a more simple game from the game mechanics pov, Cod is a bit more complex there, prone, aim down the sights, weapons customization, perks and killstreaks. So they both have fun playlists(Halo dominates here, much more social and casual playlists) and they both have competitive playlists(Cod dominates here, there really aren't any "Fun casual" playlists in cod).

In terms of art style Halo is more casual, it appeals to a wider audience. The numbers say both are casual, the hardcore say neither are casual. Halo fans say Cod is casual and Halo isn't.

Now I know this is a very pro Halo anti Cod board, so I already know what your all going to answer, but who knows maybe someone will actaully start a decent discussion, or at least try to prove me wrong in a reasonable fashion.

I would like to see a reasonable arguement as to why Cod is casual and Halo isn't. Anyone?

Made a thread it got locked.

Ok, this is by far the most biased board I have ever been on when it comes to Halo. The games are treated as a Religion. You can't bash it or your trolling, you can't compare a game to it or it's insulting Halo. If someone makes a X game vs Halo and you pick X game your a fakeboy or a fanboy.

Theres a thread on the first page asking if Cod is casual. I can understand people saying yes or no, I personally said yes. What I can't understand is how someone can say, Cod is casual but Halo isn't. They both have competitive playlists, MLG, Barebones, Hardcore, Search and Destroy. They both have mass casual appeal, Halo has it even more do to the art style, I'm pretty sure Cod has a higher "rating" making it appeal to a more restrict fanbase, May be wrong didn't confirm this.

Halo is a more simple game from the game mechanics pov, Cod is a bit more complex there, prone, aim down the sights, weapons customization, perks and killstreaks. So they both have fun playlists(Halo dominates here, much more social and casual playlists) and they both have competitive playlists(Cod dominates here, there really aren't any "Fun casual" playlists in cod).

In terms of art style Halo is more casual, it appeals to a wider audience. The numbers say both are casual, the hardcore say neither are casual. Halo fans say Cod is casual and Halo isn't.

Now I know this is a very pro Halo anti Cod board, so I already know what your all going to answer, but who knows maybe someone will actaully start a decent discussion, or at least try to prove me wrong in a reasonable fashion.

I would like to see a reasonable arguement as to why Cod is casual and Halo isn't. Anyone?

Made a thread it got locked.

Ok, this is by far the most biased board I have ever been on when it comes to Halo. The games are treated as a Religion. You can't bash it or your trolling, you can't compare a game to it or it's insulting Halo. If someone makes a X game vs Halo and you pick X game your a fakeboy or a fanboy.

Theres a thread on the first page asking if Cod is casual. I can understand people saying yes or no, I personally said yes. What I can't understand is how someone can say, Cod is casual but Halo isn't. They both have competitive playlists, MLG, Barebones, Hardcore, Search and Destroy. They both have mass casual appeal, Halo has it even more do to the art style, I'm pretty sure Cod has a higher "rating" making it appeal to a more restrict fanbase, May be wrong didn't confirm this.

Halo is a more simple game from the game mechanics pov, Cod is a bit more complex there, prone, aim down the sights, weapons customization, perks and killstreaks. So they both have fun playlists(Halo dominates here, much more social and casual playlists) and they both have competitive playlists(Cod dominates here, there really aren't any "Fun casual" playlists in cod).

In terms of art style Halo is more casual, it appeals to a wider audience. The numbers say both are casual, the hardcore say neither are casual. Halo fans say Cod is casual and Halo isn't.

Now I know this is a very pro Halo anti Cod board, so I already know what your all going to answer, but who knows maybe someone will actaully start a decent discussion, or at least try to prove me wrong in a reasonable fashion.

I would like to see a reasonable arguement as to why Cod is casual and Halo isn't. Anyone?

Gamtrix

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

Made a thread it got locked.

Ok, this is by far the most biased board I have ever been on when it comes to Halo. The games are treated as a Religion. You can't bash it or your trolling, you can't compare a game to it or it's insulting Halo. If someone makes a X game vs Halo and you pick X game your a fakeboy or a fanboy.

Theres a thread on the first page asking if Cod is casual. I can understand people saying yes or no, I personally said yes. What I can't understand is how someone can say, Cod is casual but Halo isn't. They both have competitive playlists, MLG, Barebones, Hardcore, Search and Destroy. They both have mass casual appeal, Halo has it even more do to the art style, I'm pretty sure Cod has a higher "rating" making it appeal to a more restrict fanbase, May be wrong didn't confirm this.

Halo is a more simple game from the game mechanics pov, Cod is a bit more complex there, prone, aim down the sights, weapons customization, perks and killstreaks. So they both have fun playlists(Halo dominates here, much more social and casual playlists) and they both have competitive playlists(Cod dominates here, there really aren't any "Fun casual" playlists in cod).

In terms of art style Halo is more casual, it appeals to a wider audience. The numbers say both are casual, the hardcore say neither are casual. Halo fans say Cod is casual and Halo isn't.

Now I know this is a very pro Halo anti Cod board, so I already know what your all going to answer, but who knows maybe someone will actaully start a decent discussion, or at least try to prove me wrong in a reasonable fashion.

I would like to see a reasonable arguement as to why Cod is casual and Halo isn't. Anyone?

Ravensmash

any shooter with health regeneration is casual

any shooter with health regeneration is casual

aequitas31

any shooter with health regeneration is casual

[QUOTE="aequitas31"]

any shooter with health regeneration is casual

Gamtrix

Made a thread it got locked.

Ok, this is by far the most biased board I have ever been on when it comes to Halo. The games are treated as a Religion. You can't bash it or your trolling, you can't compare a game to it or it's insulting Halo. If someone makes a X game vs Halo and you pick X game your a fakeboy or a fanboy.

Theres a thread on the first page asking if Cod is casual. I can understand people saying yes or no, I personally said yes. What I can't understand is how someone can say, Cod is casual but Halo isn't. They both have competitive playlists, MLG, Barebones, Hardcore, Search and Destroy. They both have mass casual appeal, Halo has it even more do to the art style, I'm pretty sure Cod has a higher "rating" making it appeal to a more restrict fanbase, May be wrong didn't confirm this.

Halo is a more simple game from the game mechanics pov, Cod is a bit more complex there, prone, aim down the sights, weapons customization, perks and killstreaks. So they both have fun playlists(Halo dominates here, much more social and casual playlists) and they both have competitive playlists(Cod dominates here, there really aren't any "Fun casual" playlists in cod).

In terms of art style Halo is more casual, it appeals to a wider audience. The numbers say both are casual, the hardcore say neither are casual. Halo fans say Cod is casual and Halo isn't.

Now I know this is a very pro Halo anti Cod board, so I already know what your all going to answer, but who knows maybe someone will actaully start a decent discussion, or at least try to prove me wrong in a reasonable fashion.

I would like to see a reasonable arguement as to why Cod is casual and Halo isn't. Anyone?

Gamtrix

- In CoD you don't need to get headshots to get kills. In Halo they are a must if you are playing at a decent level. Headshots are harder than bodyshots, you have to agree with that.

-More bullets to kills. If a noob starts shooting a pro from behind in CoD, he will get the kill. No matter how much the skill difference is. In Halo the pro can easily turn around and kill the less experienced player.

-Fair to everyone? You can't spawn with better guns than others. Its an even fighting ground. This wouldn't be a problem if the guns were balanced (noobtube? lmao)

[QUOTE="aequitas31"]

any shooter with health regeneration is casual

Gamtrix

yeah probly. But how can any game where you can get shot and then run and hide and have your health recover be anything other than casual

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="aequitas31"]

any shooter with health regeneration is casual

yeah probly. But how can any game where you can get shot and then run and hide and have your health recover be anything other than casual

Made a thread it got locked.

Ok, this is by far the most biased board I have ever been on when it comes to Halo. The games are treated as a Religion. You can't bash it or your trolling, you can't compare a game to it or it's insulting Halo. If someone makes a X game vs Halo and you pick X game your a fakeboy or a fanboy.

Theres a thread on the first page asking if Cod is casual. I can understand people saying yes or no, I personally said yes. What I can't understand is how someone can say, Cod is casual but Halo isn't. They both have competitive playlists, MLG, Barebones, Hardcore, Search and Destroy. They both have mass casual appeal, Halo has it even more do to the art style, I'm pretty sure Cod has a higher "rating" making it appeal to a more restrict fanbase, May be wrong didn't confirm this.

Halo is a more simple game from the game mechanics pov, Cod is a bit more complex there, prone, aim down the sights, weapons customization, perks and killstreaks. So they both have fun playlists(Halo dominates here, much more social and casual playlists) and they both have competitive playlists(Cod dominates here, there really aren't any "Fun casual" playlists in cod).

In terms of art style Halo is more casual, it appeals to a wider audience. The numbers say both are casual, the hardcore say neither are casual. Halo fans say Cod is casual and Halo isn't.

Now I know this is a very pro Halo anti Cod board, so I already know what your all going to answer, but who knows maybe someone will actaully start a decent discussion, or at least try to prove me wrong in a reasonable fashion.

I would like to see a reasonable arguement as to why Cod is casual and Halo isn't. Anyone?

Gamtrix

Yeah, COD is casual. That doesn't matter though, what matters is skill. A game can only be as "hardcore" as the players.

And since Halo is being talked about a lot here, I think both are casual, but I will say Halo rewards skill more than COD, for the reasons alfredooo gave:

"- In CoD you don't need to get headshots to get kills. In Halo they are a must if you are playing at a decent level. Headshots are harder than bodyshots, you have to agree with that.

-More bullets to kills. If a noob starts shooting a pro from behind in CoD, he will get the kill. No matter how much the skill difference is. In Halo the pro can easily turn around and kill the less experienced player.

-Fair to everyone? You can't spawn with better guns than others. Its an even fighting ground. This wouldn't be a problem if the guns were balanced (noobtube? lmao)"

That more or less sums up my thoughts on this. Both can have hardcore players, but COD caters more towards noobs. Halo rewards skill better.

[QUOTE="aequitas31"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] I pretty much agree with this, I can't think of any shooter this generation that has health regen and isn't casual. Carefull though, Halo fans are coming to eat you alive.clone01

yeah probly. But how can any game where you can get shot and then run and hide and have your health recover be anything other than casual

[QUOTE="aequitas31"]

any shooter with health regeneration is casual

Gamtrix

Everyone is going after you because they think you haven't actually played halo. Prove them wrong by just showing us your GT. :D

We are all waiting. If you don't show one, you lost by default.:P

[QUOTE="aequitas31"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] I pretty much agree with this, I can't think of any shooter this generation that has health regen and isn't casual. Carefull though, Halo fans are coming to eat you alive.clone01

yeah probly. But how can any game where you can get shot and then run and hide and have your health recover be anything other than casual

i dont play dark sector online though. the online game i play is socom. And they are considering health regen for socom 4 and if they do it i wont buy it

[QUOTE="aequitas31"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] I pretty much agree with this, I can't think of any shooter this generation that has health regen and isn't casual. Carefull though, Halo fans are coming to eat you alive.clone01

yeah probly. But how can any game where you can get shot and then run and hide and have your health recover be anything other than casual

I like Health regen too Clone. I wasn't bashing Cod or Halo, it's you Halo fans that are waaaaaay to defensive. It's like a religion for you guys. Gamtrix

Gamtrix hasn't played Halo

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="aequitas31"]

yeah probly. But how can any game where you can get shot and then run and hide and have your health recover be anything other than casual

Gamtrix

It's not nice to make fun of people's religion. I firmly believe in The Great Journey.

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="aequitas31"]

yeah probly. But how can any game where you can get shot and then run and hide and have your health recover be anything other than casual

Gamtrix

What health regen is the only excuse you could come up with for Halo? Health Regen doesen't make a game casual...
But rewarding failing, fast death, easy to use guns etc. do make a game casual...

Gamtrix hasn't played Halo

alfredooo

lets see

very low recoil

low heath

very easy to play

I don't know what to call CoD. There's no way I could call it hardcore, but even with all it's hand-holding, invisible walls and regenerating health I couldn't place it in the same category as Wii Sports or Nintendogs or the like. The only thing I can call hardcore are games like Arma, X, various sims like DCS Blackshark, Silent Hunter, Paradox's strategy games etc, because if CoD and the like can be deemed HC, then what the hell do you call a player who's mastered Blackshark?

It is because most people that play this game are addicted to just it and don't try other games. They like games were it is just mindless killing and not much thinking and patience needed.Call of Duty islike buying food at McDonald's when you could have goneto Ruth's Chris steak house as far as quality is concerned. SureRuth's Chriscost more but it is worth it though MCd's is fast and easy and has served 1 billion customers like the Call of Duty series has also. LOL.

The series used to be for the hardcore crowd. However, Modern Warfare 2 has so many crippling flaws that only a casual gamer could overlook.

it's not casual as in.....people who only play rock band.....and only 4 times a year casual. but, it's casual in FPS terms. most of my friends play mw2. that's their online game of choice. once I got them to play some halo 1 and halo 2 with me. it only took 3 25-0 game before none of them would ever play halo with me again. just last saturday I asked one of them if he was getting reach. his response: "no way, I'll get destroyed".

that same day a general in BF2 thought he'd play halo PC with me and show off his "skills". first game 25-0, second 22-0 until he quit, also vowing to never play halo again. rofl.

"why do I unload tons of bullets into you and you never die, yet you kill me before I ever see you?"
"learn to shoot"

I liked older CODs a lot though...

cod 2 pc was and is a fine game.

i am a casual gamer for all intents of purposes. i wouldnt say this is a good game for casuals like myself because playing the multiplayer is insanely frustrating, caters to people who have played for hours and hours with the stupid exp system, and getting killed by the patently silly killstreaks makes this game totally non-casual friendly.

if you mean single player, sure its alright, but then virtually all single player shooters are except like STALKER (which i did enjoy)

When COD began, yes it was less casual / took skill. As the game progressed, game design took a mass appeal approach. The gunplay for every weapon along with other game mechanics became simple and casual. Basically the only difference between a good anda bad playerin modern COD titles is situational awareness.

Anyone who thinks COD isn't casual has never played Counterstrike or Unreal. Halo also manages to not be as casual dueto the fact that you must get headshots with semi-auto weapons. In COD, every weapon is extremely powerful and recoil is nonexistent. Considering that body shots are effective enough, COD has basically taken all skill out of the gunplay.

yes, no doubt about it. made strictly for the noob.

It is, but not as much as say Halo. Halo is by far the most casual of all the popular shooters. Games like Socom are made more for the hardcore.

Gamtrix

COD1, United Offense, and COD2 (PC of course) leaned towards the hardcore mold in my mind. COD4 and so on has been what I'd consider casual, and everything Treyarch has ever made has been not only casualized, but also mediocre consolized trash. Big Red One anyone?

Yeah, it kinda is despite being a FPS.

Yeah, it kinda is despite being a FPS.

Demonjoe93

Yes because all FPS's are casual. :roll:

I'd say so. It's certainly advertised like that.

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Yeah, it kinda is despite being a FPS.

MobilechicaneX

Yes because all FPS's are casual. :roll:

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

Yeah, it kinda is despite being a FPS.

MobilechicaneX

Yes because all FPS's are casual. :roll:

How did I at all imply that?

COD1, United Offense, and COD2 (PC of course) leaned towards the hardcore mold in my mind. COD4 and so on has been what I'd consider casual, and everything Treyarch has ever made has been not only casualized, but also mediocre consolized trash. Big Red One anyone?

Renegade_Fury

Call of Duty can be complex, so I don't know if it's as much for the casual gamer. But it can be good for casual, too. I have a friend who's a casual gamer and he doesn't like Call of Duty.