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#101  Edited By kuu2
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@juarbles said:

@kuu2 said:

@juarbles said:

Whoever bought a Surface has to have below the average intelligence. There's no other rational explanation as to how a person can spend so much money on garbage.

What tablet is better?

Pretty much any other. If I want a computer device for gaming I can buy a much cheaper laptop which is more powerful and more comfortable. The surface is useless crap.

So in other words you can't name a better tablet. You immediately go to gaming laptop.......

Anyone else want to talk out their arse about another tablet being better than the Surface?

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#102  Edited By K1ngd0m4g3rul3z
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Investors should be suing Microsoft for continuing to push this black hole of a brand, Xbox. It has cost the company more than $3 billion the past decade. There comes a point when you just have to admit that something just isn't going to make you any money. Jesus...

I agree, as the console market was and is a huge gamble.

But by that logic, what should have Sony investors have done? Set fire to Sony Gaming Division HQ with all the staff in? Commit seppuku en masse?

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#103 GunSmith1_basic
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@charizard1605 said:

For the Surface. Not the Xbox.

it establishes that MS is a company that has this kind of business practice.

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#104 Jakandsigz
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And now where has Microsoft lied about anything. They went around actual numbers they did not lie about sales anywhere, this was covered a long time ago brofists. Everyone in this thread who even thinks that link is true for 5 seconds is stupid or has not read it and therefore is stupid.

It has no relation to the X1 and does not even remotely prove the point you are failing to make,..

There was literally news yesterday of the tablet selling well confirmed by investors, and here you are using old article and spinning it knowing have this forum can't read so they won't click on the link. In-genius but still lowsad.

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#105 Jakandsigz
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@silversix_ said:

MS are all liars and there's no better example but their own 5 billion transistors (that di absolutely no shit and CoD is in 720p LOL) and THE CLOUD that was supposed to make an Xbox 1 as powerful as three xbone.

No you're stupidity prevents you from realizing the two have no connection.

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#106 silversix_
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@Jakandsigz said:

@silversix_ said:

MS are all liars and there's no better example but their own 5 billion transistors (that di absolutely no shit and CoD is in 720p LOL) and THE CLOUD that was supposed to make an Xbox 1 as powerful as three xbone.

No you're stupidity prevents you from realizing the two have no connection.

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#107 Phazevariance
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Article is unrelated to gaming.

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#108 Ninja-Hippo
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Not disclosing sales figures and giving objectively false sales figures are two very different things. With the Surface, Microsoft was simply evasive. They didn't publish reports. They said it was doing well. They tried to paint a turd.

With the Xbone they've given specific numbers, at least. Although their laughable polls of people standing in line are still laughable.

Either way, I don't think the two situations are comparable.

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#109 Jakandsigz
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@silversix_ said:

@Jakandsigz said:

@silversix_ said:

MS are all liars and there's no better example but their own 5 billion transistors (that di absolutely no shit and CoD is in 720p LOL) and THE CLOUD that was supposed to make an Xbox 1 as powerful as three xbone.

No you're stupidity prevents you from realizing the two have no connection.

****************your******************

*****That "did" no "di". Check your post before going after others.

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#110  Edited By blackace
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@GrenadeLauncher said:

Expect to see that a lot more over the next 12 months.

@blackace said:

Someone is butthurt. LMAO!! Cows are in desperation as the PS4 isn't outselling the XB1 2:1 like they thought it would. Keep crying dude. It's BIG LAUGHS on SW.

Also, the article is because M$ didn't disclose the sales of the RT Surface. They didn't give false sales. They didn't give them any sales figures. Same way Sony didn't give any sale figures for the PS3 for 30+ months when the NPD numbers came out. lol!! Im surprised investors didn't sue them.

You mean like when the PS4 blew past two million two weeks ago and is selling more on average per day than the Bone?

Crawl away, blackace.

Someone is still butthurt I see. You do realize that both the PS4 and XBox One sold over 2 million unit in the same 18 days time frame right. Please stop embarrassing yourself. You've been owned so many times here on SW it's not even funny anymore. It's just very, very sad. You may want to take a leave of absent just to save some dignity.

“Demand for next generation gaming continues to be very strong,” said John Love, director of video games at Amazon. “At peak demand, customers were ordering the Xbox One console at over 1000 units per minute on Amazon.com.”

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#111 GunSmith1_basic
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@Ninja-Hippo said:

Not disclosing sales figures and giving objectively false sales figures are two very different things. With the Surface, Microsoft was simply evasive. They didn't publish reports. They said it was doing well. They tried to paint a turd.

With the Xbone they've given specific numbers, at least. Although their laughable polls of people standing in line are still laughable.

Either way, I don't think the two situations are comparable.

good point

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#112 Couth_
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@beefkebob said:

It seems now that Microsoft are trying to copy the competition, build products to try and draw in new customers but alienate existing customers, and nickel and dime for fees on everything. Not the way to do business."

That has literally been there MO for over a decade. As long as I can remember Microsoft was copying something

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#113 blackace
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4 month old article for an unrelated product.

Go back to your main account you coward.

LMAO!! No shit. Beefkabob needs to stop starting stupid bias threads to try to ease his butthirt self. Cows just need to try some of this. That'll ease their butthurt pains. lmao!!

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#114  Edited By g0ddyX
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The surface pro 2 is pretty hot, probably the best tablet in market spec wise.

Also, Window Phones are starting to take off too.

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#115 tormentos
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@StormyJoe said:

@Sagemode87 said:

@StormyJoe: Naw, he can acknowledge the industry standard that is metacritic and post here too. What are you gonna do about it?

Call him a dumbass. SW rules: only GS scores count in here. You want to use MetaCritic? Go on their forums.

Hypocrite...

On GAMESPOT GAMES ON MULTIPLE PLATFORMS = IRRELEVANT.

But that hasn't stop you from riding Titanfall as an advantage for the xbox one,when no one on this planet needs a damn xbox one to play that game.

Just like hell even PS3 games that were on Vita and PS3 were consider non exclusives here,so yeah rules don't apply only went it serve you best,so if Titanfall is a damn advantage for the xbox one,metacritics scores count go cry else where.

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#116  Edited By silversix_
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@Jakandsigz said:

@silversix_ said:

@Jakandsigz said:

@silversix_ said:

MS are all liars and there's no better example but their own 5 billion transistors (that di absolutely no shit and CoD is in 720p LOL) and THE CLOUD that was supposed to make an Xbox 1 as powerful as three xbone.

No you're stupidity prevents you from realizing the two have no connection.

****************your******************

*****That "did" no "di". Check your post before going after others.

Your and you're aren't the same kind of a grammar mistake. Its funny as shit people mix something like that lol

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#117 shawn30
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@tormentos said:

@StormyJoe said:

@Sagemode87 said:

@StormyJoe: Naw, he can acknowledge the industry standard that is metacritic and post here too. What are you gonna do about it?

Call him a dumbass. SW rules: only GS scores count in here. You want to use MetaCritic? Go on their forums.

Hypocrite...

On GAMESPOT GAMES ON MULTIPLE PLATFORMS = IRRELEVANT.

But that hasn't stop you from riding Titanfall as an advantage for the xbox one,when no one on this planet needs a damn xbox one to play that game.

Just like hell even PS3 games that were on Vita and PS3 were consider non exclusives here,so yeah rules don't apply only went it serve you best,so if Titanfall is a damn advantage for the xbox one,metacritics scores count go cry else where.

No, metacritics scores do not count on System Wars. Only GS scores do. What you do with your money and your own personal opinion is on you. But here we use GS scores and thats that. That's the way it was, is, and will be. Don't let the door hit you on the way out if you don't like it.

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#118 tormentos
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@kuu2 said:

Moooo ve on people nothing to see here.....

4 month old articles on products that have nothing to do with each other.........

Cows are seriously in full out damage control.......

When Titanfall launches it is going to be ugly here for Sony Fan. Only 3 months away really. Then moar Cow cry......

Dude MS is willing to lie about numbers to show bigger demand for a product that it really has,that scream sue me,because you are lying to investors about sales of your product and they invest expecting certain demand.

So yeah it will not surprise me they do the same with the xbox one,specially when no one knows US numbers MS refuse to talk about them,because NPD would screw them over.

The way the got the so call first day sales,6 hours before the unit was even 24 hours out.

Why will Titanfall will make things ugly.? I can buy that game on my 360.

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#119 tormentos
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@shawn30 said:

No, metacritics scores do not count on System Wars. Only GS scores do. What you do with your money and your own personal opinion is on you. But here we use GS scores and thats that. That's the way it was, is, and will be. Don't let the door hit you on the way out if you don't like it.

Games on multiple platform = irrelevant period want em to dig some last year threads about how lemming claimed that Playstation battle royal wasn't exclusive because it was on Vita.?

Hahaha drop the hypocrisy,the only reason gamespot score are only valid if because gamespot want to push their crappy reviews over every ones throats,in fact GAMESPOT reviews count toward metacritcs and Gamerankings to,so they want people to ignore a site which also use their review as source..hahahaha

Lemming can't have it both ways period.

@blackace said:

LMAO!! No shit. Beefkabob needs to stop starting stupid bias threads to try to ease his butthirt self. Cows just need to try some of this. That'll ease their butthurt pains. lmao!!

The poor sad lemming..

PS4 sold in 2 weeks 2.1 million even that from those 2 weeks,EU sales only account for 3 days...

So 3 days on EU sales and 2 weeks of US sales = 2.1 million.

When the xbox one 18 days are for world wide sales and still with more days and been longer out world wide still were beat by sony..hahaha..

Winning is wining by an inch or a mile..

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#120 kingtito
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@tormentos said:
@kuu2 said:

Moooo ve on people nothing to see here.....

4 month old articles on products that have nothing to do with each other.........

Cows are seriously in full out damage control.......

When Titanfall launches it is going to be ugly here for Sony Fan. Only 3 months away really. Then moar Cow cry......

Dude MS is willing to lie about numbers to show bigger demand for a product that it really has,that scream sue me,because you are lying to investors about sales of your product and they invest expecting certain demand.

So yeah it will not surprise me they do the same with the xbox one,specially when no one knows US numbers MS refuse to talk about them,because NPD would screw them over.

The way the got the so call first day sales,6 hours before the unit was even 24 hours out.

Why will Titanfall will make things ugly.? I can buy that game on my 360.

Read the article dumbass or at the very least read what has actually happened. I hope you're not Puerto Rican kid cause you'd be the 1st boricua I'd be ashamed of to call my people.

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#121  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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How can a thread about a a non system wars issue make it 117 posts?

This is a 4 month old article about their surface rt....

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@tormentos said:

@StormyJoe said:

@Sagemode87 said:

@StormyJoe: Naw, he can acknowledge the industry standard that is metacritic and post here too. What are you gonna do about it?

Call him a dumbass. SW rules: only GS scores count in here. You want to use MetaCritic? Go on their forums.

Hypocrite...

On GAMESPOT GAMES ON MULTIPLE PLATFORMS = IRRELEVANT.

But that hasn't stop you from riding Titanfall as an advantage for the xbox one,when no one on this planet needs a damn xbox one to play that game.

Just like hell even PS3 games that were on Vita and PS3 were consider non exclusives here,so yeah rules don't apply only went it serve you best,so if Titanfall is a damn advantage for the xbox one,metacritics scores count go cry else where.

When was that decided? Oh wait, COWS think that because of all the PC/360 games last gen.

Well, just because cows *think* it, does not make it true. All that was officially decided is that PC/360 games are not "exclusive". That's why in another thread, I said "If you want to count "flower", go ahead."

TitanFall is an advantage for the Xbox One over the PS4. Sorry, you are wrong.

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#123  Edited By StormyJoe
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@tormentos said:

@shawn30 said:

No, metacritics scores do not count on System Wars. Only GS scores do. What you do with your money and your own personal opinion is on you. But here we use GS scores and thats that. That's the way it was, is, and will be. Don't let the door hit you on the way out if you don't like it.

Games on multiple platform = irrelevant period want em to dig some last year threads about how lemming claimed that Playstation battle royal wasn't exclusive because it was on Vita.?

Hahaha drop the hypocrisy,the only reason gamespot score are only valid if because gamespot want to push their crappy reviews over every ones throats,in fact GAMESPOT reviews count toward metacritcs and Gamerankings to,so they want people to ignore a site which also use their review as source..hahahaha

Lemming can't have it both ways period.

@blackace said:

LMAO!! No shit. Beefkabob needs to stop starting stupid bias threads to try to ease his butthirt self. Cows just need to try some of this. That'll ease their butthurt pains. lmao!!

The poor sad lemming..

PS4 sold in 2 weeks 2.1 million even that from those 2 weeks,EU sales only account for 3 days...

So 3 days on EU sales and 2 weeks of US sales = 2.1 million.

When the xbox one 18 days are for world wide sales and still with more days and been longer out world wide still were beat by sony..hahaha..

Winning is wining by an inch or a mile..

No rule ever stated "games on multiple platform = irrelevant". Stop making shit up, Tormentos.

EDIT: if I remember correctly, the "Only GameSpot scores count" was started by cows.

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#124 tormentos
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@StormyJoe said:

When was that decided? Oh wait, COWS think that because of all the PC/360 games last gen.

Well, just because cows *think* it, does not make it true. All that was officially decided is that PC/360 games are not "exclusive". That's why in another thread, I said "If you want to count "flower", go ahead."

TitanFall is an advantage for the Xbox One over the PS4. Sorry, you are wrong.

No it was even on the old rules,games on more than 1 platform = multiplatform period and mutiplatform = irrelevant because no matter how much you argue about Titanfall on xbox one,Fact would still stand that no one on this planet need to mandatory own and xbox one to play that game which is the heart and soul or what exclusives are,so you can't play Uncharted 3 on PC or you can't play Halo Reach on PC either you need and xbox 360 or PS3 to play those games on Multiplatforms that is irrelevant period,there are 80 million 360 and i don't need to spend $620 to get an xbox one,Titanfall and Live period.

No you want to count flower because it serve you best,because that way you can grab and hold tied from titanfall as something that count for the xbox one,because lest face it,it has nothing coming for months but Titanfall which isn't even exclusive to begin with,fact is you want to play ISS or Drive Club this sprint.? There is no way around it get a Ps4,if i want to play Titanfall i buys spend $60 and get it on 360.

If Titanfall is something that count,meta count period get a life gamespot is a small grain of dirt on the huge desert that is the internet,and one site who has got some many controversial reviews lately to,like Beyond 2 souls showed.

@kingtito said:

Read the article dumbass or at the very least read what has actually happened. I hope you're not Puerto Rican kid cause you'd be the 1st boricua I'd be ashamed of to call my people.

I did,...

And now that real numbers are so call out right i can make fun of you..

2.1 million in 15 days >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.0 million in 18 better luck next gen,and Japan is not even been counted in the equation yet...lol

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#125  Edited By StormyJoe
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@tormentos said:

@StormyJoe said:

When was that decided? Oh wait, COWS think that because of all the PC/360 games last gen.

Well, just because cows *think* it, does not make it true. All that was officially decided is that PC/360 games are not "exclusive". That's why in another thread, I said "If you want to count "flower", go ahead."

TitanFall is an advantage for the Xbox One over the PS4. Sorry, you are wrong.

No it was even on the old rules,games on more than 1 platform = multiplatform period and mutiplatform = irrelevant because no matter how much you argue about Titanfall on xbox one,Fact would still stand that no one on this planet need to mandatory own and xbox one to play that game which is the heart and soul or what exclusives are,so you can't play Uncharted 3 on PC or you can't play Halo Reach on PC either you need and xbox 360 or PS3 to play those games on Multiplatforms that is irrelevant period,there are 80 million 360 and i don't need to spend $620 to get an xbox one,Titanfall and Live period.

No you want to count flower because it serve you best,because that way you can grab and hold tied from titanfall as something that count for the xbox one,because lest face it,it has nothing coming for months but Titanfall which isn't even exclusive to begin with,fact is you want to play ISS or Drive Club this sprint.? There is no way around it get a Ps4,if i want to play Titanfall i buys spend $60 and get it on 360.

If Titanfall is something that count,meta count period get a life gamespot is a small grain of dirt on the huge desert that is the internet,and one site who has got some many controversial reviews lately to,like Beyond 2 souls showed.

@kingtito said:

Read the article dumbass or at the very least read what has actually happened. I hope you're not Puerto Rican kid cause you'd be the 1st boricua I'd be ashamed of to call my people.

I did,...

And now that real numbers are so call out right i can make fun of you..

2.1 million in 15 days >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.0 million in 18 better luck next gen,and Japan is not even been counted in the equation yet...lol

Well, that's nothing more than your silly opinion. My view on the subject is shared by... oh, I don't know.,. every game journalist on the internet?

Poor Tormentos, you are a saaaaaad little cow today.

Want a tissue?

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#126  Edited By tormentos
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@StormyJoe said:

No rule ever stated "games on multiple platform = irrelevant". Stop making shit up, Tormentos.

EDIT: if I remember correctly, the "Only GameSpot scores count" was started by cows.


Rules did stated that games on more than 1 platform were multiplatform it was stated here,i don't know since the change but the older survival guide did stated it.

And we all know multiplatforms are irrelevant,because you don't need a single platform to play any games tag as so.

Period Titanfall mean sh** and i can get on 360 or PC hell i build a $600 one that beat the xbox one silly graphically without problems.

I don't care fact is the best sites for score which average all sites in agree on it,Resogun >>>>>> Forza 5.

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Can't say this is surprising. Many people have blamed Microsoft for this in the past and where there's smoke.....

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@TheEroica said:

How can a thread about a a non system wars issue make it 117 posts?

This is a 4 month old article about their surface rt....

This is indeed old news ...