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#51  Edited By jim1174
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@farrell2k said:

Investors should be suing Microsoft for continuing to push this black hole of a brand, Xbox. It has cost the company more than $3 billion the past decade. There comes a point when you just have to admit that something just isn't going to make you any money. Jesus...

Just like the ps vita

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#52 Joedgabe
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who in the right mind would invest on the Surface tablet..

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#53 Mr-Kutaragi
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MS caught lying again. Will they get sued for lying about xbone too?

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#54 Strutten
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@silversix_: You are seriously embarrasing dude, rather pathetic.. this place.. oh why do i even care.. mods needs to clean this place or set some rules.. same trollss different threads..

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@silversix_: You are seriously embarrasing dude, rather pathetic.. this place.. oh why do i even care.. mods needs to clean this place or set some rules.. same trollss different threads..

i wish mods could clear current Microsoft, now that would do some good.

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#57 kuu2
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Moooo ve on people nothing to see here.....

4 month old articles on products that have nothing to do with each other.........

Cows are seriously in full out damage control.......

When Titanfall launches it is going to be ugly here for Sony Fan. Only 3 months away really. Then moar Cow cry......

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@kuu2 said:

Moooo ve on people nothing to see here.....

4 month old articles on products that have nothing to do with each other.........

Cows are seriously in full out damage control.......

When Titanfall launches it is going to be ugly here for Sony Fan. Only 3 months away really. Then moar Cow cry......

LOL really man, its from the same company, what does it matter if they are different products. So MS lied about the surface sales numbers, you dont think its possible they lied about xone numbers? Think about this logically:

Sony first reported that 1 million in 24 hrs on the ps4 2 days after launch and they only launched in two regions, but MS reported 1 million number on same day of launch for Xone when they launched in 13 countries... At the very least you have to admit this is a little suspicious lol. Those numbers they reported are most likely shipped numbers but they are saying its units sold to consumers, sounds like BS

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@PS4TrumpsXbox1 said:

@kuu2 said:

Moooo ve on people nothing to see here.....

4 month old articles on products that have nothing to do with each other.........

Cows are seriously in full out damage control.......

When Titanfall launches it is going to be ugly here for Sony Fan. Only 3 months away really. Then moar Cow cry......

LOL really man, its from the same company, what does it matter if they are different products. So MS lied about the surface sales numbers, you dont think its possible they lied about xone numbers? Think about this logically:

Sony first reported that 1 million in 24 hrs on the ps4 2 days after launch and they only launched in two regions, but MS reported 1 million number on same day of launch for Xone when they launched in 13 countries... At the very least you have to admit this is a little suspicious lol. Those numbers they reported are most likely shipped numbers but they are saying its units sold to consumers, sounds like BS

Mooooooooooo..............

It is for not reporting sales numbers.............

Sony on Sony Fan.

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@Vaasman said:

4 month old article for an unrelated product.

Go back to your main account you coward.

It's brofists, he's on new account No. 56 due to being a raving lunatic fanboy.

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@Evo_nine said:

@tormentos said:

@mems_1224 said:

Man, this is some desperate ass damage control. Cows are running scared now that the PS4 launch was a failure.

How was the PS4 launch a failure your sad troll.?

Their best game is a crappy indie title.

Resogun >>>>>> every Xbone exclusive on metacritic

U mad?

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#62  Edited By PS4TrumpsXbox1
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@kuu2 said:

@PS4TrumpsXbox1 said:

@kuu2 said:

Moooo ve on people nothing to see here.....

4 month old articles on products that have nothing to do with each other.........

Cows are seriously in full out damage control.......

When Titanfall launches it is going to be ugly here for Sony Fan. Only 3 months away really. Then moar Cow cry......

LOL really man, its from the same company, what does it matter if they are different products. So MS lied about the surface sales numbers, you dont think its possible they lied about xone numbers? Think about this logically:

Sony first reported that 1 million in 24 hrs on the ps4 2 days after launch and they only launched in two regions, but MS reported 1 million number on same day of launch for Xone when they launched in 13 countries... At the very least you have to admit this is a little suspicious lol. Those numbers they reported are most likely shipped numbers but they are saying its units sold to consumers, sounds like BS

Mooooooooooo..............

It is for not reporting sales numbers.............

Sony on Sony Fan.

LOL, some one's butt hurt......

Sorry that everything that I said made sense and that you obviously have nothing to say in response lol

Its ok..... You are supporting a company that tried to screw you and other fans of 360 with that debacle that was E3 and now its clear MS lie about numbers..... LMAO

Here i'll type your response to my post im writing now:

moooooooooooooooooooo lol patheic lems

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#63  Edited By delta3074
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Failure to disclose=/=false sales figures,lol

And it's for the surface,lol

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#64 StrongDeadlift
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To sum up thread:

  • Brofist post
  • Article from August 2013
  • Not about Xbox
  • Premise of thread misleading becuz Microsoft didnt "lie" about sales figures, they never reported any in the first place.
  • Brofist post
  • Post made by Brofists

Thread is now about hamburgers.

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#65 FoxbatAlpha
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Cows so butthurt that the X1 isn't meeting their low expectations.

MS already admitted the surface sales sucked as reflected by the price drop. They aint hiding nothing.

Stay butthurt my friends.

2 million in 13 countries!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IN 18 DAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#66  Edited By Bishop1310
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I work in the industry and currently hold a chartered accountant designation and I can tell you an "inventory adjustment" is not outside legal boundaries a company has to show sales or revenue. It is common practice to have inventory adjustments in large amounts for such large companies. The decision will come down to an auditor, if they feel the amount of money "adjusted" is material to the situation or the company. The big question will be if Microsoft stepped outside of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act which is made to protect the public and investors from false leads or false information.

$900 Million is a large amount, of course, but when dealing with a company like microsoft who has a stupid amount of sales each year it could prove to not be material enough.

Worse case scenario, A few people get fired and they pay a fine. This situation is very tame compared to most as recording an adjustment in a different fiscal period to help the bottom line in another does not directly affect the public.

Interesting to see this on a video game forums but it's what you'd expect from fan boys I guess.

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#67 urbansys
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This will never go to court. It has no legs as MS posted profits.

This will settle before it goes anywhere and the plaintiffs know it.

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#68 Bishop1310
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@Zoso813 said:

Actually this is kind of a big deal....but not for the Xbox. Violating GAAP is a nono these days.

Their not violating GAAP... Violating GAAP would be doing some kind of adjustment to turn those left over items in inventory into potential sales or trying to count them towards sales... They simply waited for another fiscal period to report and do the adjustment. The law they potentially violated is the sarbanes oxley act.. The article suggests they didn't report information... you don't need to report that a potential adjustment is on the way.

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#69  Edited By DirkXXVI
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This is why you don't hire profit/loss suits, especially ones that came up more on the operations/sales side of things instead of the product development side, to run tech companies. It's actually kind of funny how Steve Jobs and Bill Gates both made the same mistake. Jobs choose Cook whose background was in supply chain management. This of course was after picking John Sculley, a sales and marketing guy from Pepsi, to be Apples first CEO when it went public in the 80's. After Job's left Apple went downhill under Sculley while Job's started Pixar.

Then you have Balmer who was Gates first business manager as well as the head of various sales divisions. Basically when you put these guys in charge the focus usually goes from making the best possible product to repackaging old ideas as well as nickle and diming customers. Part of the reason Microsoft didn't want to abandon Metro in Windows 8 is because they really liked the idea of having a tile for the Microsoft app store, which would have looked like traditional bloatware in previous versions of Windows.

Tech companies thrive by being innovative and forward thinking. This is why Google is not going anywhere anytime soon. Googles process is almost always product first, profit second. Same with Valve, which ironically is run by a former Microsoft employee. Yes it's counter intuitive but putting profit before the product is no different then putting the cart before the horse. So in short it's no surprise that Microsoft is only treading water at this point.

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@beefkebob said:

Investors Suing Microsoft Over Misleading Surface RT Info

It seems that the press wasn't the only entity unaware of how dismal Surface RT sales were until Microsoft's fourth quarter and full year results report back in July. The company revealed a $900 million "inventory adjustment" thanks to a stockpile of unsold Surface RT tablets, and now Microsoft investors are suing the company, claiming that they were "misled" because Microsoft failed to fully disclose sales figures of the Surface RT tablet during a specific window.

The class action lawsuit was filed by the Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd law firm in the United States District Court for the District of Massachusetts. It was on behalf of purchasers of Microsoft common stock during the period between April 18, 2013 and July 18, 2013, aka the "Class Period". It claims that Microsoft violated the Securities Exchange Act by providing materially false and misleading statements regarding financial performance related to the ARM-based tablet.

According to the lawsuit, Microsoft misrepresented and failed to make public the fact that Surface RT was suffering poor demand and lackluster sales, that the overall inventory experienced a material decline in value during the quarter ending March 31, and that the financial statements for the same quarter were materially false and misleading. This non-disclosure of actual facts violated Generally Accepted Accounting Principles and Microsoft’s publicly disclosed policy of accounting for inventories

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/surface-rt-lawsuit-class-action-shareholders-misleading,23875.html

Hmmm, this seems eerily similair to the xbone situation right now doesnt it...

Microsoft in a crazed frenzy trying to claim that the xbone is selling just as much as the PS4....

Microsoft claiming that xbones are sold out at all retailers YET retailers are coming forward saying that they still have xbone day one stock sitting on shelfes

Microsoft has blatantly lied about sales numbers before as proven per the referenced lawsuite....are we really going to trust Microsft PR xbone sales numbers now....this is all too eeirly similair in fact..

What the f*ck does that link have to do with System Wars?

As far as your "comment", BLOG IT!

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@tormentos said:

@Evo_nine said:

@tormentos said:

@mems_1224 said:

Man, this is some desperate ass damage control. Cows are running scared now that the PS4 launch was a failure.

How was the PS4 launch a failure your sad troll.?

Their best game is a crappy indie title.

That crappy Indie is higher rate than all xbox one exclusives on Meta and gamerankings ...hahaha But but Gamespot only matter,...hahaha

Yes. GameSpot is all that matters. If you want to use MetaCritic, go on those forums and leave here.

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#72 coasterguy65
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So now the SDF is trying to use a lawsuit as ownership? Do you guys know how many merit-less lawsuits are filed against companies every day? Now if the FTC, or SEC files something..that's a different story. Plus this has nothing to do with XBones, and sales figures are just estimates to begin with.

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#73 Sagemode87
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@kuu2: Guess when Lems are backed into a corner, they don't have shit to say but "moo" . How old are you, 12? You do realize Cows aren't actually Cows, Lems are not literally Lemming Rats, and Sheep are not actually sheep right? Grow up guys.

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#74  Edited By StormyJoe
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@silversix_ said:

MS are all liars and there's no better example but their own 5 billion transistors (that di absolutely no shit and CoD is in 720p LOL) and THE CLOUD that was supposed to make an Xbox 1 as powerful as three xbone.

I love how the little brains chime in every now and again...

Look, "Challenged", Sony is notorious for being the biggest liars in the Industry. Their PS2 hype machine was legendary for it's FUD, as was the PS3. So please, let the big boys debate in here, OK?

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@StormyJoe: Naw, he can acknowledge the industry standard that is metacritic and post here too. What are you gonna do about it?

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@Suppaman100 said:

@Evo_nine said:

@tormentos said:

@mems_1224 said:

Man, this is some desperate ass damage control. Cows are running scared now that the PS4 launch was a failure.

How was the PS4 launch a failure your sad troll.?

Their best game is a crappy indie title.

Resogun >>>>>> every Xbone exclusive on metacritic

U mad?

Metacritic is not valid in here. And, Peggle 2 > Resogun. So whatcha got now?

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#77  Edited By StormyJoe
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@Sagemode87 said:

@StormyJoe: Naw, he can acknowledge the industry standard that is metacritic and post here too. What are you gonna do about it?

Call him a dumbass. SW rules: only GS scores count in here. You want to use MetaCritic? Go on their forums.

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@StormyJoe said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@Evo_nine said:

@tormentos said:

@mems_1224 said:

Man, this is some desperate ass damage control. Cows are running scared now that the PS4 launch was a failure.

How was the PS4 launch a failure your sad troll.?

Their best game is a crappy indie title.

Resogun >>>>>> every Xbone exclusive on metacritic

U mad?

Metacritic is not valid in here. And, Peggle 2 > Resogun. So whatcha got now?

How so? Both got 8?

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@Vaasman said:

4 month old article for an unrelated product.

Go back to your main account you coward.

Exactly, lol. Nothing false was given, numbers simply weren't given. This, like most MS law suits will quietly fade away. That's why there are no recent articles about it. Behind the scenes deals to keep investors happy.

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@StormyJoe: Many people here break SW rules here and still post. Who gives a shit. In the real world, Metacritic >>>Gamespot. Deal with it, or waste your time calling people dumbasses. Won't change a damn thing.

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#81  Edited By deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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I knew it, Microshit are the biggest liars in the industry. And lemms believe every word they say. 2 millions lolol NOPE.

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@Heil68 said:

@StormyJoe said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@Evo_nine said:

@tormentos said:

@mems_1224 said:

Man, this is some desperate ass damage control. Cows are running scared now that the PS4 launch was a failure.

How was the PS4 launch a failure your sad troll.?

Their best game is a crappy indie title.

Resogun >>>>>> every Xbone exclusive on metacritic

U mad?

Metacritic is not valid in here. And, Peggle 2 > Resogun. So whatcha got now?

How so? Both got 8?

No particular reason other than I was being argumentative... LOL!

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@StormyJoe said:

@Heil68 said:

@StormyJoe said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@Evo_nine said:

@tormentos said:

@mems_1224 said:

Man, this is some desperate ass damage control. Cows are running scared now that the PS4 launch was a failure.

How was the PS4 launch a failure your sad troll.?

Their best game is a crappy indie title.

Resogun >>>>>> every Xbone exclusive on metacritic

U mad?

Metacritic is not valid in here. And, Peggle 2 > Resogun. So whatcha got now?

How so? Both got 8?

No particular reason other than I was being argumentative... LOL!

oh, ok..:P I got peggle 2, did you? Add me to Live- BroknOath and I CHALLENGE YOU TO A MP MATCH OF IT! :D Then we can talk about how awesome Sony is. :D

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@Sagemode87 said:

@StormyJoe: Many people here break SW rules here and still post. Who gives a shit. In the real world, Metacritic >>>Gamespot. Deal with it, or waste your time calling people dumbasses. Won't change a damn thing.

I will continue to point out that MetaCritic reviews do not count in SW. Is it futile? Maybe. But, the rules are the rules, and if people are going to break them then they should be called out on it.

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@Sagemode87 said:

@kuu2: Guess when Lems are backed into a corner, they don't have shit to say but "moo" . How old are you, 12? You do realize Cows aren't actually Cows, Lems are not literally Lemming Rats, and Sheep are not actually sheep right? Grow up guys.

Actually I am 10 and you are arguing with a 10 year old. I am on your level you just don't know it yet.

Cows are really on suicide watch with the sales numbers for The One.

The sad thing is most of The One fans couldn't care less if Sony sold 5 million systems during the holidays. The insecure Cows on the other hand lose their minds when MSoft sells 10 consoles. Relax Sony Fan your precious is not going out any time soon. Enjoy playing your games Sony Fan, you have .................................well there is not much to play but at least it sits level...........................well you do have the superior controller........................well your online infrastructure is...............................at least you have best looking game........................you do have the best rated game here on GSpot........................

Merry Christmas Sony Fan for the second best console this season.

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#86  Edited By donalbane
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@Sweenix said:

@waltefmoney said:

Microsoft is one of the most profitable companies in the world. Sony is a company that does nothing but bleed money and will be dead in a few years.

They stopped bleeding money sometime ago

After the 2008 crash, Sony's numbers are a small fraction of what they once were. You can say they aren't bleeding money, but they are a shadow of their formal selves. As a company, their sales figures are relatively minor compared to their glory days in the 80s and 90s. Their TV sales real killed them over the past few years. Samsung is eating their lunch... and rightly so. Meanwhile, Microsoft's numbers have remained constant since the crash. They didn't get the huge hit most tech companies suffered. They didn't grow, but they didn't get in the red either.

Not that any of this really has any place in this forum... I understand when people discuss console sales figures, but this one is a real stretch.

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#87 jhcho2
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@waltefmoney said:

Microsoft is one of the most profitable companies in the world. Sony is a company that does nothing but bleed money and will be dead in a few years.

I'll take the broke company that doesn't lie to their consumers over the one that does.

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#88  Edited By StormyJoe
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@Heil68 said:

@StormyJoe said:

@Heil68 said:

@StormyJoe said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@Evo_nine said:

@tormentos said:

@mems_1224 said:

Man, this is some desperate ass damage control. Cows are running scared now that the PS4 launch was a failure.

How was the PS4 launch a failure your sad troll.?

Their best game is a crappy indie title.

Resogun >>>>>> every Xbone exclusive on metacritic

U mad?

Metacritic is not valid in here. And, Peggle 2 > Resogun. So whatcha got now?

How so? Both got 8?

No particular reason other than I was being argumentative... LOL!

oh, ok..:P I got peggle 2, did you? Add me to Live- BroknOath and I CHALLENGE YOU TO A MP MATCH OF IT! :D Then we can talk about how awesome Sony is. :D

You're on, Heli! My live account is stormierdabear.

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@StormyJoe said:

@Sagemode87 said:

@StormyJoe: Many people here break SW rules here and still post. Who gives a shit. In the real world, Metacritic >>>Gamespot. Deal with it, or waste your time calling people dumbasses. Won't change a damn thing.

I will continue to point out that MetaCritic reviews do not count in SW. Is it futile? Maybe. But, the rules are the rules, and if people are going to break them then they should be called out on it.

I fought this one real hard when Gamespot flopped TLOU. The problem is that Sony fanboys are out of control in System Wars.

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#90  Edited By kuu2
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@donalbane said:

@Sweenix said:

@waltefmoney said:

Microsoft is one of the most profitable companies in the world. Sony is a company that does nothing but bleed money and will be dead in a few years.

They stopped bleeding money sometime ago

After the 2008 crash, Sony's numbers are a small fraction of what they once were. You can say they aren't bleeding money, but they are a shadow of their formal selves. As a company, their sales figures are relatively minor compared to their glory days in the 80s and 90s. Their TV sales real killed them over the past few years. Samsung is eating their lunch... and rightly so. Meanwhile, Microsoft's numbers have remained constant since the crash. They didn't get the huge hit most tech companies suffered. They didn't grow, but they didn't get in the red either.

Not that any of this really has any place in this forum... I understand when people discuss console sales figures, but this one is a real stretch.

You are talking a foreign language to Sony Fan. They have no idea how to actually read financial statements. MSoft has had areas of weakness but their gaming division is not one of them in the last 4 years.

MSoft has turned a profit on The Xbox year over year for the last four years, and increased their market share by 300%.

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#93  Edited By StormyJoe
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@juarbles said:

@StormyJoe said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@Evo_nine said:

@tormentos said:

@mems_1224 said:

Man, this is some desperate ass damage control. Cows are running scared now that the PS4 launch was a failure.

How was the PS4 launch a failure your sad troll.?

Their best game is a crappy indie title.

Resogun >>>>>> every Xbone exclusive on metacritic

U mad?

Metacritic is not valid in here. And, Peggle 2 > Resogun. So whatcha got now?

Stop the butthurt xboner. Metacritic is valid for any real gamer. That you housewives are clueless about gaming is not our fault.

Then go troll the MetaCritic sites and leave SW.

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#95  Edited By kuu2
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@juarbles said:

Whoever bought a Surface has to have below the average intelligence. There's no other rational explanation as to how a person can spend so much money on garbage.

What tablet is better?

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#97 StormyJoe
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@juarbles said:

@StormyJoe said:

@juarbles said:

@StormyJoe said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@Evo_nine said:

@tormentos said:

@mems_1224 said:

Man, this is some desperate ass damage control. Cows are running scared now that the PS4 launch was a failure.

How was the PS4 launch a failure your sad troll.?

Their best game is a crappy indie title.

Resogun >>>>>> every Xbone exclusive on metacritic

U mad?

Metacritic is not valid in here. And, Peggle 2 > Resogun. So whatcha got now?

Stop the butthurt xboner. Metacritic is valid for any real gamer. That you housewives are clueless about gaming is not our fault.

Then go troll the MetaCritic sites and leave SW.

No because the xboner cancer is more prominent here and any real gamer who cares about gaming has to do their part to get rid and expose the xboner disease.

HA HA HA!!! What a moocow you are.

"xboner cancer"... I think you take console loyalty a wee bit too far.

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lol brofists thread and cows circle jerk

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@StormyJoe said:

@Heil68 said:

@StormyJoe said:

@Heil68 said:

@StormyJoe said:

@Suppaman100 said:

@Evo_nine said:

@tormentos said:

@mems_1224 said:

Man, this is some desperate ass damage control. Cows are running scared now that the PS4 launch was a failure.

How was the PS4 launch a failure your sad troll.?

Their best game is a crappy indie title.

Resogun >>>>>> every Xbone exclusive on metacritic

U mad?

Metacritic is not valid in here. And, Peggle 2 > Resogun. So whatcha got now?

How so? Both got 8?

No particular reason other than I was being argumentative... LOL!

oh, ok..:P I got peggle 2, did you? Add me to Live- BroknOath and I CHALLENGE YOU TO A MP MATCH OF IT! :D Then we can talk about how awesome Sony is. :D

You're on, Heli! My live account is stormierdabear.

I added you.

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@blackace said:

Someone is butthurt. LMAO!! Cows are in desperation as the PS4 isn't outselling the XB1 2:1 like they thought it would. Keep crying dude. It's BIG LAUGHS on SW.

Also, the article is because M$ didn't disclose the sales of the RT Surface. They didn't give false sales. They didn't give them any sales figures. Same way Sony didn't give any sale figures for the PS3 for 30+ months when the NPD numbers came out. lol!! Im surprised investors didn't sue them.

Ya that's it. Lol

MS is a duche bag company.