Hitman Xbox One X has native 4K vs PS4 Pro's 1440p

I didn't miss anything. My point is that all you do is compare X1X to PC.

@Zero_epyon said:

@ronvalencia said:

@Pedro said:

The battle for resolution. I am still waiting to experience someone thinking about the resolution of the game they are playing on another system. People need to remember that the vast majority of gamers generally don't care.

Can you cite the source of this chart?

https://www.developer-tech.com/news/2017/apr/21/research-state-video-game-industry-2017/

@ronvalencia said:

@Zero_epyon said:

@ronvalencia said:

@Pedro said:

The battle for resolution. I am still waiting to experience someone thinking about the resolution of the game they are playing on another system. People need to remember that the vast majority of gamers generally don't care.

Can you cite the source of this chart?

https://www.developer-tech.com/news/2017/apr/21/research-state-video-game-industry-2017/

Thanks. Survey was done with more than 4000 people. That seems like a small sample.

Look another thread for the Mighty Xbox One X.

Tuesday!

@Zero_epyon said:

@ronvalencia said:

@Zero_epyon said:

@ronvalencia said:

@Pedro said:

The battle for resolution. I am still waiting to experience someone thinking about the resolution of the game they are playing on another system. People need to remember that the vast majority of gamers generally don't care.

Can you cite the source of this chart?

https://www.developer-tech.com/news/2017/apr/21/research-state-video-game-industry-2017/

Thanks. Survey was done with more than 4000 people. That seems like a small sample.

also, those factors aren't ranked by level of importance. And pedro was talking about resolution, not graphics quality.

@drlostrib said:

@Zero_epyon said:

@ronvalencia said:

@Zero_epyon said:

@ronvalencia said:

Can you cite the source of this chart?

https://www.developer-tech.com/news/2017/apr/21/research-state-video-game-industry-2017/

Thanks. Survey was done with more than 4000 people. That seems like a small sample.

also, those factors aren't ranked by level of importance. And pedro was talking about resolution, not graphics quality.

67 percent is more than 47 percent.

Those are factors influencing, they are not ranked by importance

67 percent of respondents has valued "quality of the graphics" which is higher than other factors, hence different factors are ranked by importance.

no they're not. Just means that 67% included graphics as part of their buying decision. Obviously they were allowed to pick more than one, but we don't know how much graphics played in their decision.

Yes they are. 67% included graphics as part of their buying decision which is higher than other factors.

Does not mean it was the most important factor in their buying decision. Just because it was included does not mean it was the most important thing

Perhaps for that 67% that included it was the lowest importance in their decision, while for the 65% that included price that was the most important to them.

PS4 has superior graphics (67 percent) and price (65 percent) over XBO, hence the results.

On PS4 vs XBO

Quality of the graphics (67 percent): PS4 win, X360 was competitive against PS3

Price (65 percent): PS4 win, X360 was competitive against PS3

Interesting Story/Premise (59 percent): PS4 win, Garbage story for halo 5 and even the devs acknowledge it!

Online Game-Play Capability (50 percent): about equal

Product is Continuation of a Favorite game series (48 percent): XBO win

No brainier on PS4's +60 million units results over XBO.

XBO lost the top 3 factors.

...except that chart is for factors influencing buying video games, not systems

... except superior systems drives superior graphics for PS4.

I compared X1X, PS4 Pro (multiple 1440p level examples) and PC. Your omission is a lie.

Your entire post was still irrelevant because it had nothing to do with the chart that was being discussed

Sorry, going to have to figure out how to mark it as spam

If you're going to post charts you gotta follow your own charts

Your entire post is still irrelevant since survey's respondents indicated the value for each buying influence factors.

Your post is spam.

No, ron they didn't

we've been over and done with this before, and you were still wrong. It's not my fault you keep trying to spam the same bad chart.

No DrLostRib, influence factors with higher percentage from respondents has higher value i.e. more respondents selects graphics when compared to other factors.

You're still wrong.

Nowhere does it say that

None of the factors are given values. This has been covered and you ended up having to deflect to another topic.

Spamming the same points over and over doesn't make them right

More respondents selects "graphics" when compared to other factors.

You're still wrong.

But they weren't given values of importance in making that decision, they just play some role in the decision

stop just restating the same thing over and over

From respondent survey pool, more respondents has selected the graphics factor which is 67 percent of them which is higher than other factors. This is not rocket science.

You need to stop being butt-hurt from X1X's superior graphics hardware over PS4 Pro.

still doesn't allow you to draw the conclusions you are making

why the hell would i care?

BS; There's more respondents that selected the graphics buying factor i.e. 67 percent of them which is higher than other factors.

they're not selecting one factor over the other, just saying that it is one of the factors

and you didn't answer the question

@drlostrib: Oh god, he's stuck on that same old "factors which influence a game purchase" chart again. The same survey which includes people who primarily game on their phones. Yeah, totally relevant to SW.

Titan fall 2 Xbox one x game play. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnJJvePWvN0

Phones has thier own graphics factors i.e. note why iPhones has kickass mobile GPUs.

Qualcomm SoCs dominating over other ARM based SoCs...

@ronvalencia: Cool story. What's your favorite mobile game?

Or xbox game? Or any game? Do you actually play video games?

ronvalencia is not a system wars subject.

There I fixed it for you.

@ronvalencia: it would be an omission if the topic was x1x vs pro. It was not.

I have posted multiple PS4 Pro with 1440p level resolution vs X1X 4K resolution examples.

For example. ARK Survival has comparison between PS4 Pro's 30 fps vs X1X's 60 fps vs GTX 1070.

In this topic, my posts has PS4 Pro's 1440p vs X1X's native 4K and PC Hitman 4K benchmark.

Your claims on "My point is that all you do is compare X1X to PC." is BS.

"My point is that all you do is compare X1X to PC." is not even system wars argument since it's about ronvalencia.

@ronvalencia: there's something really wrong with you.

@ronvalencia said:

@Pedro said:

The battle for resolution. I am still waiting to experience someone thinking about the resolution of the game they are playing on another system. People need to remember that the vast majority of gamers generally don't care.

Nice chart!

Super Mario Odyssey Crosses 2 Million Copies Sold After Only 3 Days

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/super-mario-odyssey-crosses-2-million-copies-sold-/1100-6454503/

Now here's ^ some numbers that are based on reality. 2Million in....3 day...3 DAYS! But no 4k graphics so...

Pretty much! Ron was that chart supposed to disprove what Pedro said? If so...

Mission Failed!

@Zero_epyon:

^ no need!

@lexxluger said:

@ronvalencia said:

@Pedro said:

The battle for resolution. I am still waiting to experience someone thinking about the resolution of the game they are playing on another system. People need to remember that the vast majority of gamers generally don't care.

Nice chart!

Super Mario Odyssey Crosses 2 Million Copies Sold After Only 3 Days

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/super-mario-odyssey-crosses-2-million-copies-sold-/1100-6454503/

Now here's ^ some numbers that are based on reality. 2Million in....3 day...3 DAYS! But no 4k graphics so...

@Pedro said:

The battle for resolution. I am still waiting to experience someone thinking about the resolution of the game they are playing on another system. People need to remember that the vast majority of gamers generally don't care.

Pretty much! Ron was that chart supposed to disprove what Pedro said? If so...

Mission Failed!

Strange... Nintendo is still not part of the top 5 games companies

https://newzoo.com/insights/rankings/top-25-companies-game-revenues/

yup. seeing a lot of "nobody cares" but some certainly did in 2014-2015 when it was 1080p vs 900p. lol

@cainetao11: Lol yeah... alot of them hide behind PC too now, conveniently.

In the end, selecting either Windows PC or Xbox, Microsoft wins. Microsoft has Toyota/Lexus style market segmentation.

PlayStation has a family devices that covers Play Station Vita, Play Station 3 and Play Station 4 while this treatment wasn't applied for Microsoft's ecosystems i.e. double standards from the cow side.

@ronvalencia: How does Microsoft win actually? They only get a cut from the games sold on their own storefront, they get nothing out of games sold on steam, unless you mean windows licenses

Making sure Windows is still the preeminent PC OS? They didn't become a multi billion dollar corporation without it. I don't claim to know billions of people but not 1 PC gamer I know, doesn't use W10 at this point. They are very much PC in the mindshare of the general public

@howmakewood: You don't understand how Microsoft wins by having people buy/build Windows 10 PCs, purchase gaming content from their digital Microsoft Store, and play online via their online service of Xbox Live?..

But i was told that 3rd parties wouldn't be able to do 4k in their games.

Oh well next goalpost Cows.

@kuu2: Lol the goal post has already been moved.. Now games have to do "ultra across the board" and the optional performance modes need to have locked 60fps throughout the game..

Needless to say this is a far cry from the initial predictions of "most games will be checkerboard just like the Pro", "you'll only see native 4K unless they turn everything down to low settings", and "i wish they would just do 1080p/60fps instead"..

A couple of these "experts", who are completely hiding behind PCs now, are the ones who are really feeling the egg on their face.. It's gonna be a long wait for the PS5 it seems..

When folks start comparing the One X to PC you know its a good thing for console gamers.

@Pedro: Lol exactly..

Not a fan of Hitman but I love seeing all these games get a huge boost on the X1X.

@scatteh316: Actually the 60 fps mode is terribly wonky. The 4k 30 mode is the way to go on this one. It mostly sticks to the 30 and is quite smooth. Unfortunately the 60 is upto 60 fps mode so it's all over the place and gave me a headache.

I would leave that mode for a freesync monitor personally and not a television.