Hitman Xbox One X has native 4K vs PS4 Pro's 1440p

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From https://wccftech.com/hitman-goty-xbox-one-x-support/

Xbox One X Enhancements: A whole host of enhancements are on the way for Xbox One X owners, including options for native 4K and a higher framerate.

To quote Xbox YouTube channel

HITMAN – Game of the Year Edition is enhanced for Xbox One X. Featuring beautiful native 4K, a smooth as butter 60 FPS high frame rate mode and HDR support for vivid and stunning colors.

https://gamingbolt.com/hitman-ps4-pro-vs-ps4-graphics-comparison-a-decent-upgrade-with-increased-resolution-and-performance

To begin with Hitman on the PS4 Pro runs at 2560 X 1440 resolution

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#3  Edited By Pedro
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The battle for resolution. I am still waiting to experience someone thinking about the resolution of the game they are playing on another system. People need to remember that the vast majority of gamers generally don't care.

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#4  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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Gonna be a common theme... get ready for the cow damage control.

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#5  Edited By ronvalencia
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MSI Gaming X R9-390X has 1070 Mhz clock speed, hence it's 6.025 TFLOPS.

6.x TFLOPS GPUs (MSI R9-390X OC, Titan X Maxwell, GTX 1070) has similar performance.

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Why are lemmings using this as ownage? We all know the X is more powerful...its a new console with better hardware ffs.

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#7 JoshRMeyer
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@hrt_rulz01: Not sure any "cow" will argue the same exact game won't look better on the newer, more expensive console. They can argue about exclusives, and how good they look though. Besides Forza, I'm still waiting to see a good looking Xbox One exclusive on the X. It'll probably be Halo 6 whenever that comes. Sea of Theives and Crackdown don't show off the X's performance ability at all... And I doubt that PUBG game will either since it looks like crap on PC.

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@fastnslowww: Don't forget the higher price tag also.

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Congrats...... Hitman is not a bad looking game...... still not H:ZD, Uncharted, TLOU2, GoW and other graphical power houses though.

You lemmings can circle jerk over pixel count and us cows will circle jerk over graphics :D

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@Pedro: @scatteh316: Are you two blind? It isn't just a reso boost. It's 60fps, better visuals, and HDR. It's one of the better enhancements I've seen actually.

It has a '60fps mode' meaning they'll turn some of the settings down to get the frame rate up.

And I never said it was just a resolution boost, can you not read? Are you blind?

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@scatteh316: Yes, but it's a rock solid 60fps mode. And you said lems were circle jerking over the resolution, which implies you thought that's all it was.

Can you link me to the DF video where they test the frame rate?

And no, Lems can jerk over resolution because the games with the best graphics are still on Pro...

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Gonna be a common theme... get ready for the cow damage control.

It'll be massive, since they outnumber lems + sheep + herms

Anyways, i'm so pumped for Tuesday (or wednesday)

I've never pre-ordered a console in my life, and I've been gaming since 1992.

I hope Best Buy can ship on time, but I doubt it, so I'll probably get it wed-thur.

Any of you guys got any confirmation yet?

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Not possible with the power difference between the pro and X :)

Xbox One X proving its true power more and more.

roll on next week

Microsoft Xbox One X the new king of consoles

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@FLOPPAGE_50: I'm picking mine up in-store :)

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@lukeasaurusrex said:

@scatteh316: I'm going by the devs words. And the X1X just came out, it hasn't had a first party game to take full advantage of the power yet. That said, FH3 comes close already.

1. Wait for the performance tests, to many '60fps' games this generation that are more like '45fps' games.

2. What 1st party titles are in development that look set to push it?

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

@FLOPPAGE_50: I'm picking mine up in-store :)

Man I'd rather do that, when pre orders opened for the second time I could only pre order online.

but this was Canada

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#21  Edited By Alucard_Prime
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You reminded me of the game, I had purchased it on sale but haven't played it yet, glad to hear it will run at 4K native, just gives me an idea when I look at different games if I am able to spot the differences, which one runs at Native or not, out of curiosity. HDR support is sweet as well, I don't remember this game having that before.

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Microsoft giving gamers options with their games. Play at 4k and the standard 30fps for consoles or 1080p/1440p (to be announced) at 60fps all for less than $500.

Thank you Microsoft the new upcoming king of consoles.

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Is this going to be like cows in the beginning of the gen with a new thread for each title that runs better on the X?

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@lukeasaurusrex: This game should look great, at first I thought they said 4K Native - 60 fps, didn't realize they meant a 60 fps mode. But bottom line is it is nice to see them give extra options like that.....honestly for this kind of game, it's a little slower paced, I would be fine with 4K Native - 30 fps, but I will try both and see which one I prefer .....can't wait only a few days now

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

@FLOPPAGE_50: I'm picking mine up in-store :)

will it be a midnight release

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#27  Edited By SakusEnvoy
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@lukeasaurusrex: Most games probably won’t get 60fps modes, and if they do, it’s still out of people’s control which ones have it. This particular game had a high/unlocked frame rate rate option already on PS4 Pro, so the extra power of X1X is enough to seal the deal at 60fps.

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Unholy cowzerz, Poo cows, I almost, almost mind you, feel sorry for the lil cud chewers....

Lolol :P

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#29  Edited By CanYouDiglt
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Lol the cows are getting so angry now with seeing game after game being much better on the X1X. It is funny reading their responses.

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@joshrmeyer said:

@fastnslowww: Don't forget the higher price tag also.

$100 isn't a big jump for the massive improvement over PS4 Pro

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I find the cow narrative hilarious...when a game doesn't quite reach native 4K on the X1X "haha the weak console, lems have been owned" but when games do reach native 4K "it's the more powerful console, of course it's native 4K...why make a thread about it" lolz

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@lukeasaurusrex said:

I'm really happy to hear about the 60fps and better visuals. Especially when one of the main arguments against X1X has been most games getting enhanced won't be 60fps. Which is BS.

As already pointed out, it's a 60 fps mode. Meaning that players choose between resolution or frame rate, pretty much like a budget PC of similar price. And it's not that the arguments were that X1X wouldn't get 60 fps, it's that it wouldn't get 60 fps and 4K at the same time, namely in high production AAA titles. Which has been proven to be true in most cases, Gears 4 being native 4K/30 fps, AC Origins being checkerboard 4K/30 fps. Forza 7 being a rare exception of having the native 4K with 60 fps in the AAA space. But then racers are typically easier to optimize than open and large scale world type games. Besides that you have the less demanding games like Minecraft and those cartoon graphic styles which can afford the headroom for resolution and frame rate utilization.

If anything, most in the community were arguing that the new system would have been better utilized for 1080p with at least High settings (an often overlooked aspect in graphics) and 60 fps, than 4K just for the sake of resolution. Maybe even 1440p/60 fps if possible. Many really wanted to see an improvement in performance before striving for higher resolution. But at least more games are giving the players the choice in how they experience their games instead of the locked settings, and that is a very good thing.

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Not surprising. Hitman was 1080p/30ish on Xbox One. Just scaling that up to 4K should work on the X. The issue I'll be looking at is if the frame rate will still be unsteady at 4K.

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@Phazevariance: In console talk, $100 is a lot. It'll be $150 more once the Pro officially drops to $349(will be this month) plus (Black Friday/Cyber Monday has it at $299)... I'm not saying the price isn't worth it, but it's definitely something people factor in when considering a console.

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@AdobeArtist said:
@lukeasaurusrex said:

I'm really happy to hear about the 60fps and better visuals. Especially when one of the main arguments against X1X has been most games getting enhanced won't be 60fps. Which is BS.

As already pointed out, it's a 60 fps mode. Meaning that players choose between resolution or frame rate, pretty much like a budget PC of similar price. And it's not that the arguments were that X1X wouldn't get 60 fps, it's that it wouldn't get 60 fps and 4K at the same time, namely in high production AAA titles. Which has been proven to be true in most cases, Gears 4 being native 4K/30 fps, AC Origins being checkerboard 4K/30 fps. Forza 7 being a rare exception of having the native 4K with 60 fps in the AAA space. But then racers are typically easier to optimize than open and large scale world type games. Besides that you have the less demanding games like Minecraft and those cartoon graphic styles which can afford the headroom for resolution and frame rate utilization.

If anything, most in the community were arguing that the new system would have been better utilized for 1080p with at least High settings (an often overlooked aspect in graphics) and 60 fps, than 4K just for the sake of resolution. Maybe even 1440p/60 fps if possible. Many really wanted to see an improvement in performance before striving for higher resolution. But at least more games are giving the players the choice in how they experience their games instead of the locked settings, and that is a very good thing.

This post right here. It's almost like they're arguing against people made out of straw...

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@lukeasaurusrex said:

@Zero_epyon: Then I get to this post.... Dude there's been nothing but salt and tears against the X1X since it was announced. If you choose to ignore that, that's on you. Hell anytime someone posts that a game is native 4K on X1X all I see are cows bashing it, and hermits bringing up their PCs even though the convo had nothing to do with PC.

...you are aware that you're in system wars, right?

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GOTY edition? So I have to buy it again? Hope not.

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PS4 Pro checkerboard technology > Xbox One X native black crush 4K

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Oh no PC compare why? Always want to compare the more powerful one X agaisn't PS4.

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@APiranhaAteMyVa: Don't be a trolling fanboy dipshit.

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@lukeasaurusrex: It sounds like you want the Xbox forum, not System Wars...

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@lukeasaurusrex said:

@Zero_epyon: Then I get to this post.... Dude there's been nothing but salt and tears against the X1X since it was announced. If you choose to ignore that, that's on you. Hell anytime someone posts that a game is native 4K on X1X all I see are cows bashing it, and hermits bringing up their PCs even though the convo had nothing to do with PC.

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@lukeasaurusrex said:

@Zero_epyon: Then I get to this post.... Dude there's been nothing but salt and tears against the X1X since it was announced. If you choose to ignore that, that's on you. Hell anytime someone posts that a game is native 4K on X1X all I see are cows bashing it, and hermits bringing up their PCs even though the convo had nothing to do with PC.

Have you not seen ron's threads? I mean look at this very thread. It has charts comparing Xbox One X to PC before anyone even gets a chance. And how about lems going bananas in threads that talk about games that aren't native 4K? Hell I've made a couple of those and was told by several lems that resolution threads needed to go away. Don't see them complaining about the 4 threads about resolution on X1X on the front page.

Hermits are merely responding to that nonsense. It's mostly reactive.

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@AdobeArtist said:
@lukeasaurusrex said:

I'm really happy to hear about the 60fps and better visuals. Especially when one of the main arguments against X1X has been most games getting enhanced won't be 60fps. Which is BS.

As already pointed out, it's a 60 fps mode. Meaning that players choose between resolution or frame rate, pretty much like a budget PC of similar price. And it's not that the arguments were that X1X wouldn't get 60 fps, it's that it wouldn't get 60 fps and 4K at the same time, namely in high production AAA titles. Which has been proven to be true in most cases, Gears 4 being native 4K/30 fps, AC Origins being checkerboard 4K/30 fps. Forza 7 being a rare exception of having the native 4K with 60 fps in the AAA space. But then racers are typically easier to optimize than open and large scale world type games. Besides that you have the less demanding games like Minecraft and those cartoon graphic styles which can afford the headroom for resolution and frame rate utilization.

If anything, most in the community were arguing that the new system would have been better utilized for 1080p with at least High settings (an often overlooked aspect in graphics) and 60 fps, than 4K just for the sake of resolution. Maybe even 1440p/60 fps if possible. Many really wanted to see an improvement in performance before striving for higher resolution. But at least more games are giving the players the choice in how they experience their games instead of the locked settings, and that is a very good thing.

For this game, a budget PC with $499 and GTX 1060 would be defeated by X1X.

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Stupid lems. Don't you know resolution hasn't mattered since to Scorpio specs were revealed?

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@Pedro said:

The battle for resolution. I am still waiting to experience someone thinking about the resolution of the game they are playing on another system. People need to remember that the vast majority of gamers generally don't care.

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#49  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Zero_epyon said:
@lukeasaurusrex said:

@Zero_epyon: Then I get to this post.... Dude there's been nothing but salt and tears against the X1X since it was announced. If you choose to ignore that, that's on you. Hell anytime someone posts that a game is native 4K on X1X all I see are cows bashing it, and hermits bringing up their PCs even though the convo had nothing to do with PC.

Have you not seen ron's threads? I mean look at this very thread. It has charts comparing Xbox One X to PC before anyone even gets a chance. And how about lems going bananas in threads that talk about games that aren't native 4K? Hell I've made a couple of those and was told by several lems that resolution threads needed to go away. Don't see them complaining about the 4 threads about resolution on X1X on the front page.

Hermits are merely responding to that nonsense. It's mostly reactive.

You missed my Ark Survival posts which is not 4K on X1X. X1X still beats PS4 Pro with more than 43 percent difference and the CPU is driving X1X's frame rates to 60 fps while PS4 Pro's version stuck at 30 fps.

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#50 Zero_epyon
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@ronvalencia said:
@Pedro said:

The battle for resolution. I am still waiting to experience someone thinking about the resolution of the game they are playing on another system. People need to remember that the vast majority of gamers generally don't care.

Can you cite the source of this chart?