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#1 SwagSurf
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Haven't seen a thread talking about this, so I'll post it.


What do you guys think? Discuss?

http://www.nextgn.com/2011/01/02/heavy-rain-inspired-mass-effect-3/

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#2 leafsfreak
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Heavy Rain is definitely a landmark in video game story telling, it's only natural for it to influence other games that have strong elements of storytelling themselves... but Mass Effect has always been pushing the boundaries of what makes a fantastic game and it wouldn't surprise me if they'd already had this idea cooked up before Mass Effect's release. It'll be interesting to see how the decision making process in both games compares, though. I'm really looking forward to Mass Effect 3.

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#3 Funconsole
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You think he'll let me borrow his crystal ball so I can look into the future because he sure as hell got a lot of info from a damn reveal trailer :?
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#4 navyguy21
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A blogger's opinion? Seriously? Did u know that Too Human inspired Uncharted 2? Its true cuz its going to be in my blog :P

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#5 glez13
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There is something I don't understand about that. Is the whole thing quoting someone from Bioware saying all that or is he just writing assumptions?

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#6 110million
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hope you can press X to garrus
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#7 tagyhag
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"Heavy Rain definitely goes down as one of my favorite games of all time."

"It seems that the developers of last year's Game of The Year, Mass Effect 2 — BioWare, may have also been inspired by Heavy Rain's innovating game-play."

"From what we have seen and read of BioWare's Mass Effect 3, it seems to have adopted the same kind of game-play rules — decisions need to be made in real time. The whole Renegade and Paragon system has been fully reworked to create a much more intense experience."

The real time Renegade/Paragon options were on the 2nd ME. >_>

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#8 glez13
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"Heavy Rain definitely goes down as one of my favorite games of all time."

"It seems that the developers of last year's Game of The Year, Mass Effect 2 — BioWare, may have also been inspired by Heavy Rain's innovating game-play."

"From what we have seen and read of BioWare's Mass Effect 3, it seems to have adopted the same kind of game-play rules — decisions need to be made in real time. The whole Renegade and Paragon system has been fully reworked to create a much more intense experience."

The real time Renegade/Paragon options were on the 2nd ME. >_>

tagyhag

That clarifies what I was asking.

I just wasted some time reading that. :x

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#9 Blixxed
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I think he meant...

Mass Effect 2 Inspired Heavy Rain

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#10 Lto_thaG
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The only thing they have in common is that they're no RPG games.

*runs*

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#11 GeneralShowzer
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It's just a personal blog or something. 90% of the blog he praises Heavy Rain.... And then he just says "From what we have seen and read of BioWare's Mass Effect 3, it seems to have adopted the same kind of game-play rules - decisions need to be made in real time" What does that mean? What have we seen so far? The decisions were already in real time...What you mean there is a timer or something. Where do you guys come up with these links.
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#12 jg4xchamp
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He's 100% wrong.
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#13 110million
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[QUOTE="Blixxed"]I think he meant...

Mass Effect 2 Inspired Heavy Rain

Yes, Heavy Rain was actually made in the 1 month between ME2 and HR's release.
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#14 _SWAG_
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i agree one thousand percent. heavyrain is just one sony game that inspires a gaming generation. sony games are the blue prints imho

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This should be good.
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#16 navyguy21
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The only thing they have in common is that they're no RPG games.

*runs*

Lto_thaG

Hey buddy, you think we could have a friendly word with you? :)

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#17 GeneralShowzer
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i agree one thousand percent. heavyrain is just one sony game that inspires a gaming generation. sony games are the blue prints imho

_SWAG_
Oh please... There was something called "FMV" games way back in the 90's that used the same system as Heavy Rain, but apparently someone forgot to tell Quantic Dream, that this type of game-play sucks! Also Indigo Prophecy had teh same "revolutionary, inspiring, whatever", that came before Heavy Rain, and was not a sony game, so there.
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#18 themyth01
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ME was doing decisions far before HR release so, this looks like another misinformed blog.

I actually laughed at the "open-ended gameplay" comment, as open-ended as pressing the buttons showed on the screen :lol:

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#19 GeneralShowzer
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ME was doing decisions far before HR release so, this looks like another misinformed blog. themyth01
Yes, BLOG, move along nothing to discuss here...
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#20 110million
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ME was doing decisions far before HR release so, this looks like another misinformed blog. themyth01
Yeah, but HR's lead to real consequences.
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#21 Lto_thaG
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

The only thing they have in common is that they're no RPG games.

*runs*

navyguy21

Hey buddy, you think we could have a friendly word with you? :)

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Yes!
On how the movie sucked compared to the series!!!

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#22 spookykid143
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ME was doing decisions far before HR release so, this looks like another misinformed blog. themyth01
HR had a fairly long development

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#23 lawlessx
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That title doesn't make any sense. How can he say heavy rain inspired mass effect 3 when: A. Mass effect 3 hasn't even released yet and B. We know very little about the game itself other than earth being part of the story. :?
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#24 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="themyth01"] ME was doing decisions far before HR release so, this looks like another misinformed blog. spookykid143

HR had a fairly long development

.... Ultima IV was doing decisions, a game released in 1985...
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#25 lamprey263
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realtime decision making isn't really an innovation first seen in Heavy Rain, it was used much earlier in Quantic Dream's previous title Indigo Prophecy, it was also used in the recent bomb Alpha Protocol, and it's a rather minor attribute to lay claim to, if Quantic Dream made any strong impact on gaming it's been in those quicktime events which have been somewhat fashionable the last few years, God of War probably had a stronger impact on that though
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#26 rolo107
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He uses information from Mass Effect 2 to support his argument, which obviously makes little sense. This is not official at all, did you even read your own article or just post it for the attention?
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#28 tutt3r
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I also heard that Mass Effect 3 was inspired by Heavy Rains use of Blu-ray disc format for ps3, so thats what they are going to use...

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#29 Avian005
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I also heard that Mass Effect 3 was inspired by Heavy Rains use of Blu-ray disc format for ps3, so thats what they are going to use...

tutt3r

Are you ******* kidding me?!

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#30 bigboss5ak
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The heavy rain demo was so awful i hope me3 doesn't adopt anything from it
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#31 mo0ksi
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I fully support this accurate and credible blog.
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#32 padaporra
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Never played Heavy Rain but if it's good in some way and something in it can improve ME3 I don't see the problem in "copying" it.

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#33 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

i agree one thousand percent. heavyrain is just one sony game that inspires a gaming generation. sony games are the blue prints imho

Funconsole
Oh wow... Could you be anymore of a fanslave? :roll:

Or ya know... could he be more obviously sarcastic?
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#34 Cr1m1nal_Slang
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I hope bioware decided to got with the whole "hold r2 to walk" mechanic. That was the best thing to happen to gaming in years.
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#35 walkingdream
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Is this the same guy who said Halo Reach was inspired by KZ2? Lolz
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#36 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="Funconsole"][QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

i agree one thousand percent. heavyrain is just one sony game that inspires a gaming generation. sony games are the blue prints imho

SilverChimera
Oh wow... Could you be anymore of a fanslave? :roll:

Or ya know... could he be more obviously sarcastic?

judging by his post history... i doubt it
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#37 tonitorsi
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So now Heavy Rain is a bad influence to take an inspiration from?

b-b-bu-but if somebody takes inspiration from the ME series we're good right?

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#38 skrat_01
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Heavy Rain is definitely a landmark in video game story telling, it's only natural for it to influence other games that have strong elements of storytelling themselves... but Mass Effect has always been pushing the boundaries of what makes a fantastic game and it wouldn't surprise me if they'd already had this idea cooked up before Mass Effect's release. It'll be interesting to see how the decision making process in both games compares, though. I'm really looking forward to Mass Effect 3.

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Landmark? Hah. Hell no. Heavy Rain takes the tropes established in Fahrenheit - removes crucial aspects from that, then reworks it here and there. Let alone failed to even *properly tell its narrative, or hold a coherent plot* In more ways than one Heavy Rain is an admirable failure. This excruciating website doesn't even do a decent job justifying its point in the article.
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#39 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="Funconsole"]
Oh wow...

Could you be anymore of a fanslave? :roll:lawlessx

Or ya know... could he be more obviously sarcastic?



His post history reinforces the sarcasm actually.

So now Heavy Rain is a bad influence to take an inspiration from?

b-b-bu-but if somebody takes inspiration from the ME series we're good right?

tonitorsi

No one is insulting your PS3 title. :P The thread title is just misleading.

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#40 TheMoreYouOwn
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Makes sense to me.
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#41 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

i agree one thousand percent. heavyrain is just one sony game that inspires a gaming generation. sony games are the blue prints imho

Oh please... There was something called "FMV" games way back in the 90's that used the same system as Heavy Rain, but apparently someone forgot to tell Quantic Dream, that this type of game-play sucks! Also Indigo Prophecy had teh same "revolutionary, inspiring, whatever", that came before Heavy Rain, and was not a sony game, so there.

Seriously, does _SWAG_ believe anyone takes his opinion's as objective around here?
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#42 ps3wizard45
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The only thing they have in common is that they're no RPG games.

*runs*

Lto_thaG

I lol'd :lol:

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#43 waltefmoney
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Yeah, but HR's lead to real consequences. 110million

Losing your main character is not a real consequence?

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#44 -Snooze-
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More like it was inspired by the better design choices in Alpha protocol

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#45 Master_ShakeXXX
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Well there's your proof. Heavy Rain > Mass Effect :P

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#46 Sagem28
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I think it's great ! The storytelling in heavy rain was spot on, good to see other developers learning from it.

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#47 -Snooze-
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I think it's great ! The storytelling in heavy rain was spot on, good to see other developers learning from it.

Sagem28

To bad the story was garbage, full of plot holes too.The characters where garbage, Helen is beyond useless, and the killer is just ... Abysmal.

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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

I think it's great ! The storytelling in heavy rain was spot on, good to see other developers learning from it.

-Snooze-

To bad the story was garbage, full of plot holes too.The characters where garbage, Helen is beyond useless, and the killer is just ... Abysmal.

I constantly hear Stevo and jasonharris preach the same thing. If the story sucks so bad why does it get all the lovin? I are confuzzled.

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#49 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

I think it's great ! The storytelling in heavy rain was spot on, good to see other developers learning from it.

Master_ShakeXXX

To bad the story was garbage, full of plot holes too.The characters where garbage, Helen is beyond useless, and the killer is just ... Abysmal.

I constantly hear Stevo and jasonharris preach the same thing. If the story sucks so bad why does it get all the lovin? I are confuzzled.

It's got great presentation and as said story telling, and you genuinly want to know wtf going on. My complaints come in hindsight. I enjoyed it during my playthrough for being something a bit different, even if not new. I doubt I could play it again though.

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#50 h575309
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If it wasnt for the horrendous plot holes and stupid red herrings, it mightve been my GOTY.

But seriously, that clockstore scene was bullllll.