Forget the hardware sales. MS is destroying Sony and Nintendo via software sales

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/14856/September-Xbox-360-Tops-Hardware-and-Software-Sales/

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http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/14856/September-Xbox-360-Tops-Hardware-and-Software-Sales/

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RonnieLottinSF

You should check the 360's software sales last year. Back in January, the Xbox 360 only had an attach rate of 4.6 games sold per console. That's about the same attach ratio as the Wii has now (without WiiSports or WiiPlay).

Also, the 360 only managed to outsell the Wii's software sales 4 to 1 because of Halo 3. With 3.3 million units sold by Halo 3 alone, I would think that Halo 3 outsold the rest of the 360's own software sales by 3 to 1, too.

Software is useless without proper working hardware.dream431ca

I guess its a good thing the 360 has a 3 year warranty ;)

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/14856/September-Xbox-360-Tops-Hardware-and-Software-Sales/

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mjarantilla

You should check the 360's software sales last year. Back in January, the Xbox 360 only had an attach rate of 4.6 games sold per console. That's about the same attach ratio as the Wii has now (without WiiSports or WiiPlay).

Also, the 360 only managed to outsell the Wii's software sales 4 to 1 because of Halo 3. With 3.3 million units sold by Halo 3 alone, I would think that Halo 3 outsold the 360's own total software sales by 3 to 1, too.

The wii attach rate has to be lower than that.

in terms of software ds destorys everything trying to beat ds is like trying to stop a frate train with ur handdeadmeat59

In japan yes, but overall the 360 software sales are high.

When you lost the harware, find something else you have.Ragnarok1051

Nah. The 360 also just owned the Wii and PS3 in hardware sales as well. ;)

Software sales is where you actually make the money and gain the 3rd party devs.

However Wii with crappy software has outsold the xbox 360, even after one year.

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]When you lost the harware, find something else you have.RonnieLottinSF

Nah. The 360 also just owned the Wii and PS3 in hardware sales as well. ;)

Software sales is where you actually make the money and gain the 3rd party devs.

Software is useless without proper working hardware.dream431ca

My system works just fine.

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[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]in terms of software ds destorys everything trying to beat ds is like trying to stop a frate train with ur handkevy619

In japan yes, but overall the 360 software sales are high.

[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/14856/September-Xbox-360-Tops-Hardware-and-Software-Sales/

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kevy619

You should check the 360's software sales last year. Back in January, the Xbox 360 only had an attach rate of 4.6 games sold per console. That's about the same attach ratio as the Wii has now (without WiiSports or WiiPlay).

Also, the 360 only managed to outsell the Wii's software sales 4 to 1 because of Halo 3. With 3.3 million units sold by Halo 3 alone, I would think that Halo 3 outsold the 360's own total software sales by 3 to 1, too.

The wii attach rate has to be lower than that.

No, it's not. With WiiSports and WiiFit, it's over 6.1 in the US. Look up Nintendo's annual financial report. The Wii's GLOBAL attach rate is lower, but that's because Japan only buys 3 games per Wii. In North America and Europe--i.e. the only places the 360 is selling--the Wii has an attach rate of 6.1 or so in NA and 5.9 or something in Europe. Minus 1.5 for WiiSports (1.0) and WiiFit (0.5), and you get a little over 4.5.

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]When you lost the harware, find something else you have.Erkidu

Nah. The 360 also just owned the Wii and PS3 in hardware sales as well. ;)

Software sales is where you actually make the money and gain the 3rd party devs.

And the Wii just had its best month in NA, yet the 360 still beat its arse.

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Team Xbox pwns you too.

Pwned.

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]When you lost the harware, find something else you have.RonnieLottinSF

Nah. The 360 also just owned the Wii and PS3 in hardware sales as well. ;)

Software sales is where you actually make the money and gain the 3rd party devs.

And the Wii just had its best month in NA, yet the 360 still beat its arse.

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Yeah, thanks to Halo 3. Let's see how well the 360 does in January, after the holidays are over.

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]Software is useless without proper working hardware.RonnieLottinSF

My system works just fine.

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Unfortunatly 3.6 Million people don't agree with you. :(

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]When you lost the harware, find something else you have.RonnieLottinSF

Nah. The 360 also just owned the Wii and PS3 in hardware sales as well. ;)

Software sales is where you actually make the money and gain the 3rd party devs.

And the Wii just had its best month in NA, yet the 360 still beat its arse.

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This thread is funny. People are bringing handhelds into the discussion just to voice an opinion, LOL!! :lol:

Lovely self ownage.

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]When you lost the harware, find something else you have.RonnieLottinSF

Nah. The 360 also just owned the Wii and PS3 in hardware sales as well. ;)

Software sales is where you actually make the money and gain the 3rd party devs.

And the Wii just had its best month in NA, yet the 360 still beat its arse.

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The Wii had its best month despite no major games having launched, while the 360's best game ever launched and barely beat the Wii. Think about it.

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]When you lost the harware, find something else you have.Erkidu

Nah. The 360 also just owned the Wii and PS3 in hardware sales as well. ;)

Software sales is where you actually make the money and gain the 3rd party devs.

And the Wii just had its best month in NA, yet the 360 still beat its arse.

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It still outsold the Wii in the Wii's best NA month ever and has been outselling the Wii every week in October so far in NA.

It also outsold the Wii by 35K, not 20K.

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[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]When you lost the harware, find something else you have.RonnieLottinSF

Nah. The 360 also just owned the Wii and PS3 in hardware sales as well. ;)

Software sales is where you actually make the money and gain the 3rd party devs.

And the Wii just had its best month in NA, yet the 360 still beat its arse.

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It still outsold the Wii in the Wii's best NA month ever and has been outselling the Wii every week in October so far in NA.

It also outsold the Wii by 35K, not 20K.

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[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]Software is useless without proper working hardware.dream431ca

My system works just fine.

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Unfortunatly 3.6 Million people don't agree with you. :(

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]When you lost the harware, find something else you have.Hexagon_777

Nah. The 360 also just owned the Wii and PS3 in hardware sales as well. ;)

Software sales is where you actually make the money and gain the 3rd party devs.

And the Wii just had its best month in NA, yet the 360 still beat its arse.

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The Wii had its best month despite no major games having launched, while the 360's best game ever launched and barely beat the Wii. Think about it.

No thinking needed. (360) 580K >>>>> (Wii) 544K >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (PS3) 135K for September.

Oh and for you handheld lovers, the 360 also outsold the DS for September.

Software numbers, well that is a laughable debate because the 360 murdered the Wii and PS3 combined.

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]When you lost the harware, find something else you have.RonnieLottinSF

Nah. The 360 also just owned the Wii and PS3 in hardware sales as well. ;)

Software sales is where you actually make the money and gain the 3rd party devs.

And the Wii just had its best month in NA, yet the 360 still beat its arse.

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It still outsold the Wii in the Wii's best NA month ever and has been outselling the Wii every week in October so far in NA.

It also outsold the Wii by 35K, not 20K.

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Does anybody actually play their systems, or just argue over the sales? :roll:

[QUOTE="dream431ca"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

[QUOTE="dream431ca"]Software is useless without proper working hardware.horgen123

My system works just fine.

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Unfortunatly 3.6 Million people don't agree with you. :(

New falcon chips, new dvd player, extra heatsync and 3 year warranty.

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[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]When you lost the harware, find something else you have.dream431ca

Nah. The 360 also just owned the Wii and PS3 in hardware sales as well. ;)

Software sales is where you actually make the money and gain the 3rd party devs.

And the Wii just had its best month in NA, yet the 360 still beat its arse.

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It still outsold the Wii in the Wii's best NA month ever and has been outselling the Wii every week in October so far in NA.

It also outsold the Wii by 35K, not 20K.

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Does anybody actually play their systems, or just argue over the sales? :roll:

Look at yourself in the mirror.

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]When you lost the harware, find something else you have.Erkidu

Nah. The 360 also just owned the Wii and PS3 in hardware sales as well. ;)

Software sales is where you actually make the money and gain the 3rd party devs.

And the Wii just had its best month in NA, yet the 360 still beat its arse.

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It still outsold the Wii in the Wii's best NA month ever and has been outselling the Wii every week in October so far in NA.

It also outsold the Wii by 35K, not 20K.

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Thanks for the self ownage. You are basically saying that the consumer is retarded for buying a system with no games, LOL!! :lol:

Self ownage approved. This is like when Sony says people have bought 5 million PS3s even though is has no games, LOL!!! :lol:

At least you sheep can admit it. That is the first step to fixing it. ;)

:| Wow, you're dense. It dosen't matter how you word it - the Wii had it's best month without ANY software releases in the same month that the 360 launched its FLAGSHIP title, and it BARELY beat the Wii. Could you please think?Erkidu

He's an Xbot. He won't understand. It's so simple, though. It took the 360's best title to barely beat the Wii despite the Wii having had nothing of importance to fight back with. Imagine what will happen when the Wii does get something!

:lol:

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]When you lost the harware, find something else you have.RonnieLottinSF

Nah. The 360 also just owned the Wii and PS3 in hardware sales as well. ;)

Software sales is where you actually make the money and gain the 3rd party devs.

And the Wii just had its best month in NA, yet the 360 still beat its arse.

pwned

The Wii had its best month despite no major games having launched, while the 360's best game ever launched and barely beat the Wii. Think about it.

No thinking needed. (360) 580K >>>>> (Wii) 544K >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (PS3) 135K for September.

Oh and for you handheld lovers, the 360 also outsold the DS for September.

Software numbers, well that is a laughable debate because the 360 murdered the Wii and PS3 combined.

Thanks for the self ownage. You are basically saying that the consumer is retarded for buying a system with no games, LOL!! :lol: Self ownage approved. This is like when Sony says people have bought 5 million PS3s even though is has no games, LOL!!! :lol: At least you sheep can admit it. That is the first step to fixing it. ;)RonnieLottinSF

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]When you lost the harware, find something else you have.Erkidu

Nah. The 360 also just owned the Wii and PS3 in hardware sales as well. ;)

Software sales is where you actually make the money and gain the 3rd party devs.

And the Wii just had its best month in NA, yet the 360 still beat its arse.

pwned

The Wii had its best month despite no major games having launched, while the 360's best game ever launched and barely beat the Wii. Think about it.

No thinking needed. (360) 580K >>>>> (Wii) 544K >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (PS3) 135K for September.

Oh and for you handheld lovers, the 360 also outsold the DS for September.

Software numbers, well that is a laughable debate because the 360 murdered the Wii and PS3 combined.

Last time I checked NA (North America) = Canada and US sales. Think about it.

[QUOTE="Erkidu"]:| Wow, you're dense. It dosen't matter how you word it - the Wii had it's best month without ANY software releases in the same month that the 360 launched its FLAGSHIP title, and it BARELY beat the Wii. Could you please think?Hexagon_777

He's an Xbot. He won't understand. It's so simple, though. It took the 360's best title to barely beat the Wii despite the Wii having had nothing of importance to fight back with. Imagine what will happen when the Wii does get something!

:lol:

Last time I checked NA (North America) = Canada and US sales. Think about it.RonnieLottinSF

I still fail to see the actual relevance of "attach rates". I would like someone do a study of attach rates to put them in proper context. It's easy for companies to just shoot out this number, and for peopleto say "they sell more games." But do they? the Xbox had a higher attach rate than the PS2...but the PS2 sold WAY more software.

It is easy for people to say this number appeals to developers? BUt what if the attach rate is mostly dominated by FPS? Is a high attach rate really important to non-FPS devs then?

If attach rates actually represent a wide and diverse array of games, then i can see the standard claims as being true. But let's be realistic here. We have no idea as to the actual context of these numbers. All we know is the company releases this number themselves without analysis.

Proper analysis is everything.

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[QUOTE="Erkidu"]:| Wow, you're dense. It dosen't matter how you word it - the Wii had it's best month without ANY software releases in the same month that the 360 launched its FLAGSHIP title, and it BARELY beat the Wii. Could you please think?Erkidu

He's an Xbot. He won't understand. It's so simple, though. It took the 360's best title to barely beat the Wii despite the Wii having had nothing of importance to fight back with. Imagine what will happen when the Wii does get something!

:lol:

Is that why the 360 is still outselling the Wii in NA for the entire month of October?

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]Last time I checked NA (North America) = Canada and US sales. Think about it.Erkidu

Last I checked sheepboy, Japan = Asia. Canada = North American region which is the same region as the US.

You fail.

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="Erkidu"]:| Wow, you're dense. It dosen't matter how you word it - the Wii had it's best month without ANY software releases in the same month that the 360 launched its FLAGSHIP title, and it BARELY beat the Wii. Could you please think?RonnieLottinSF

He's an Xbot. He won't understand. It's so simple, though. It took the 360's best title to barely beat the Wii despite the Wii having had nothing of importance to fight back with. Imagine what will happen when the Wii does get something!

:lol:

Is that why the 360 is still outselling the Wii in NA for the entire month of October?

Please don't go by VGChartz. They make up 90% of their numbers.

[QUOTE="Erkidu"]:| Wow, you're dense. It dosen't matter how you word it - the Wii had it's best month without ANY software releases in the same month that the 360 launched its FLAGSHIP title, and it BARELY beat the Wii. Could you please think?Hexagon_777

He's an Xbot. He won't understand. It's so simple, though. It took the 360's best title to barely beat the Wii despite the Wii having had nothing of importance to fight back with. Imagine what will happen when the Wii does get something!

:lol:

Yet the 360 is still outselling the Wii in October.

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[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]Last time I checked NA (North America) = Canada and US sales. Think about it.RonnieLottinSF

Last I checked sheepboy, Japan = Asia. Canada = North American region which is the same region as the US.

You fail.

Japanese sales don't include the rest of Asia.

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"][QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="Erkidu"]:| Wow, you're dense. It dosen't matter how you word it - the Wii had it's best month without ANY software releases in the same month that the 360 launched its FLAGSHIP title, and it BARELY beat the Wii. Could you please think?mjarantilla

He's an Xbot. He won't understand. It's so simple, though. It took the 360's best title to barely beat the Wii despite the Wii having had nothing of importance to fight back with. Imagine what will happen when the Wii does get something!

:lol:

Is that why the 360 is still outselling the Wii in NA for the entire month of October?

Please don't go by VGChartz. They make up 90% of their numbers.

And they were with in 10K of the NPD totals before those numbers were released. :D

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="Erkidu"]:| Wow, you're dense. It dosen't matter how you word it - the Wii had it's best month without ANY software releases in the same month that the 360 launched its FLAGSHIP title, and it BARELY beat the Wii. Could you please think?RonnieLottinSF

He's an Xbot. He won't understand. It's so simple, though. It took the 360's best title to barely beat the Wii despite the Wii having had nothing of importance to fight back with. Imagine what will happen when the Wii does get something!

:lol:

Is that why the 360 is still outselling the Wii in NA for the entire month of October?

[QUOTE="Erkidu"]:| Wow, you're dense. It dosen't matter how you word it - the Wii had it's best month without ANY software releases in the same month that the 360 launched its FLAGSHIP title, and it BARELY beat the Wii. Could you please think?Hexagon_777

He's an Xbot. He won't understand. It's so simple, though. It took the 360's best title to barely beat the Wii despite the Wii having had nothing of importance to fight back with. Imagine what will happen when the Wii does get something!

:lol:

The wii had its best selling month yet, so what is your point?

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]Last time I checked NA (North America) = Canada and US sales. Think about it.RonnieLottinSF

Last I checked sheepboy, Japan = Asia. Canada = North American region which is the same region as the US.

You fail.

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]Last time I checked NA (North America) = Canada and US sales. Think about it.mjarantilla

Last I checked sheepboy, Japan = Asia. Canada = North American region which is the same region as the US.

You fail.

Japanese sales don't include the rest of Asia.

They don't include NA region either which was the whole point. ;)

As far as I'm concerned there are only5 real regions any way. Japan, Asia, NA, Austrailaand Europe.

[QUOTE="RonnieLottinSF"]

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/14856/September-Xbox-360-Tops-Hardware-and-Software-Sales/

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mjarantilla

You should check the 360's software sales last year. Back in January, the Xbox 360 only had an attach rate of 4.6 games sold per console. That's about the same attach ratio as the Wii has now (without WiiSports or WiiPlay).

Also, the 360 only managed to outsell the Wii's software sales 4 to 1 because of Halo 3. With 3.3 million units sold by Halo 3 alone, I would think that Halo 3 outsold the rest of the 360's own software sales by 3 to 1, too.

Link?