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#1 InfamousC
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Sony is set to sell 4 million PlayStation 3 units to European consumers by the end of 2007, according to Screen Digest.

Speaking to The Times Online, analyst Nick Parker dismissed suggestions that plentiful stocks of the console could be seen to indicate poor sales performance.

"The lack of shortage is supply driven; what Sony has shipped will sell," he said.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23596

Sony is going to sell more PS3s in Europe this year then M$ has managed to sell in the last 14 months :lol:

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When have predictions about how much the PS3 is going to own the competition ever came true? Why should we start thinking it will happen now? Europeans probably have even less cash to waste on games than Americans, so price and lack of games is going to be an issue there too.
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Massive Damage Control
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"Well, now, I wouldn't say that,"
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wow ! :lol:
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Considering Sony can't even sell out their preorders, that is a bold statement.

Any way a price drop + Halo 3 + GTA IV + Mass Effect + Bioshock + Assassin's Creed + DMC4 + Forza Motorsport 2 + oh I could go on for a while = massive sales for the 360 later in the year.

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When have predictions about how much the PS3 is going to own the competition ever came true? Why should we start thinking it will happen now? Europeans probably have even less cash to waste on games than Americans, so price and lack of games is going to be an issue there too.Idonomeus


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When have predictions about how much the PS3 is going to own the competition ever came true? Why should we start thinking it will happen now? Europeans probably have even less cash to waste on games than Americans, so price and lack of games is going to be an issue there too.Idonomeus

30 games at launch PS2 NA and European sales are about even at 45 million each.

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#9 poopinloop32
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you act if this is impossible
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#10 gromit007
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Well if it does sell that many....the PS3 will still be faaaaaar behind the Wii.

Next, please

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#11 fixer293
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You can't predict the future, so stop trying. This whole thread is nothing but a angry massive damage control.

Deal widit.

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lol dmg control cause dmc went multi! and i doubt it will.

If the ps3 hasn't broken the 2.5 million barrier here in what 5 months now? it wont break 4 million in europe by end of year.
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#13 InfamousC
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You can't predict the future, so stop trying. This whole thread is nothing but a angry massive damage control.

Deal widit.

fixer293
I didn't write the article.
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Considering Sony can't even sell out their preorders, that is a bold statement.

Any way a price drop + Halo 3 + GTA IV + Mass Effect + Bioshock + Assassin's Creed + DMC4 + Forza Motorsport 2 + oh I could go on for a while = massive sales for the 360 later in the year.

eastside49er
answer this, when u first got ur 360, was it the best and had the greatest games? if u got it at launch there was a really good game or two until march, that was 1st party, and try adding all the games that are first party games just for the 360. you only get 3 games that u listed and those are Halo 3 (which will go to the PC in a few years), Mass Effect and Forza Motorsport 2. You can still get the other games you listed on other platforms. :P
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#15 Michael85
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If I were Sony, I'd be more concerned with selling 4 million world wide, much less in one country.
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Another night, another thread about sales by InfamousC.... will it ever end?
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[QUOTE="Idonomeus"]When have predictions about how much the PS3 is going to own the competition ever came true? Why should we start thinking it will happen now? Europeans probably have even less cash to waste on games than Americans, so price and lack of games is going to be an issue there too.InfamousC

30 games at launch PS2 NA and European sales are about even at 45 million each.

I wonder how many Europeans cancelled their pre-orders now that DMC4 is coming to 360 ;)

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[QUOTE="fixer293"]

You can't predict the future, so stop trying. This whole thread is nothing but a angry massive damage control.

Deal widit.

InfamousC

I didn't write the article.

An article by a bunch of guy that make predictions. You Fail

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#19 InfamousC
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lol dmg control cause dmc went multi! and i doubt it will.

If the ps3 hasn't broken the 2.5 million barrier here in what 5 months now? it wont break 4 million in europe by end of year.
WilliamRLBaker

It's only been 4 months exactly.

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lol dmg control cause dmc went multi! and i doubt it will.

If the ps3 hasn't broken the 2.5 million barrier here in what 5 months now? it wont break 4 million in europe by end of year.
WilliamRLBaker

It hasn't broken 1.3 million yet. :) 

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[QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Idonomeus"]When have predictions about how much the PS3 is going to own the competition ever came true? Why should we start thinking it will happen now? Europeans probably have even less cash to waste on games than Americans, so price and lack of games is going to be an issue there too.Yellow_Rose

30 games at launch PS2 NA and European sales are about even at 45 million each.

I wonder how many Europeans cancelled their pre-orders now that DMC4 is coming to 360 ;)

My guess would be 0. Devil May Cry is a medicore game.

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]lol dmg control cause dmc went multi! and i doubt it will.

If the ps3 hasn't broken the 2.5 million barrier here in what 5 months now? it wont break 4 million in europe by end of year.
InfamousC

It's only been 4 months exactly.



November thata 1
December thats 2
Janurary thats 3
Feburary thats 4
March thats 5
hmmmmmm its march the 20th its far enough into the month thats its 5 months.
Oh and infamous do you have to dmg control. Oh Devil may cry was a mediocre game. lol ok.

Oh heres some ownage
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=25389325

hmmm If Devil may cry is mediocre then why would you say its gonna push sales? hmmmm
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#23 fixer293
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TC, Please stop trolling, you have provided nothng but predictions that hold no merit. This whole topic is damage control, and trying to use analysts as ownage is useless, because they "predict" things,and predictions hold no merit.

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#24 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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hahahahahaha While you're in the future, tell me how the stocks are k? you seriously made a post about speculation. It's not like sony put together a study, and scientifically proved that the ps3 will sell that much. you're in so much denial it's upsetting. so, so, so pathetic. I feel sorry for you :(
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[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"]What if demand wavers off, like it did with America? it's down to 127,000 a month.InfamousC

It will pick back with games like Lair, Heavenly Sword, Devil May Cry 4, Ratchet and Clank, Assassin's Creed, and Grand Theft Auto IV come.

  

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Idonomeus"]When have predictions about how much the PS3 is going to own the competition ever came true? Why should we start thinking it will happen now? Europeans probably have even less cash to waste on games than Americans, so price and lack of games is going to be an issue there too.InfamousC

30 games at launch PS2 NA and European sales are about even at 45 million each.

I wonder how many Europeans cancelled their pre-orders now that DMC4 is coming to 360 ;)

My guess would be 0. Devil May Cry is a medicore game.

No really...its OK to change your mind to avoid ownage.

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[QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"]What if demand wavers off, like it did with America? it's down to 127,000 a month.gromit007

It will pick back with games like Lair, Heavenly Sword, Devil May Cry 4, Ratchet and Clank, Assassin's Creed, and Grand Theft Auto IV come.

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Idonomeus"]When have predictions about how much the PS3 is going to own the competition ever came true? Why should we start thinking it will happen now? Europeans probably have even less cash to waste on games than Americans, so price and lack of games is going to be an issue there too.InfamousC

30 games at launch PS2 NA and European sales are about even at 45 million each.

I wonder how many Europeans cancelled their pre-orders now that DMC4 is coming to 360 ;)

My guess would be 0. Devil May Cry is a medicore game.

No really...its OK to change your mind to avoid ownage.

check it out!
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=25389325

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[QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="fatzombiepigeon"]What if demand wavers off, like it did with America? it's down to 127,000 a month.gromit007

It will pick back with games like Lair, Heavenly Sword, Devil May Cry 4, Ratchet and Clank, Assassin's Creed, and Grand Theft Auto IV come.

  

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Idonomeus"]When have predictions about how much the PS3 is going to own the competition ever came true? Why should we start thinking it will happen now? Europeans probably have even less cash to waste on games than Americans, so price and lack of games is going to be an issue there too.InfamousC

30 games at launch PS2 NA and European sales are about even at 45 million each.

I wonder how many Europeans cancelled their pre-orders now that DMC4 is coming to 360 ;)

My guess would be 0. Devil May Cry is a medicore game.

No really...its OK to change your mind to avoid ownage.

Just because I said sales will pick up doesn't stop it from being a medicore title.
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DMC4 is coming to the xbox 360!  [/
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Considering Sony can't even sell out their preorders, that is a bold statement.

Any way a price drop + Halo 3 + GTA IV + Mass Effect + Bioshock + Assassin's Creed + DMC4 + Forza Motorsport 2 + oh I could go on for a while = massive sales for the 360 later in the year.

sasukedevil

answer this, when u first got ur 360, was it the best and had the greatest games? if u got it at launch there was a really good game or two until march, that was 1st party, and try adding all the games that are first party games just for the 360. you only get 3 games that u listed and those are Halo 3 (which will go to the PC in a few years), Mass Effect and Forza Motorsport 2. You can still get the other games you listed on other platforms. :P

The 360 at launch had the highest attach rate in the history of launches (4 games per console sold). It must have had some great games at launch otherwise the attach rate would have sucked (look at PS3 for reference on what a low attach rate is suppose to look like at launch). The 360 currently has a 5.3 attach rate so it actually went up in a years time which is amazing considering the attach rate normally goes down the more consoles you sell.

With the amazing games I already mentioned and many more that are out or soon to be out this year (Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Too Human, GRAW2, Crackdown, NBA Street Homecourt, GH2, Lost Planet, Shadowrun, UT3, etc) the attach rate could get even higher.

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No it's not Infamous, let it go.  The PS3 is garbage.  If I'm not interested in buying a PS3 now, I bet there's a LOT more people out there who feel the same as I.  
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check it out!
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=25389325

WilliamRLBaker

Medicore titles can sell systems just look at 360s lineup.

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[QUOTE="sasukedevil"][QUOTE="eastside49er"]

Considering Sony can't even sell out their preorders, that is a bold statement.

Any way a price drop Halo 3 GTA IV Mass Effect  Bioshock Assassin's Creed DMC4 Forza Motorsport 2 oh I could go on for a while = massive sales for the 360 later in the year.

eastside49er

answer this, when u first got ur 360, was it the best and had the greatest games? if u got it at launch there was a really good game or two until march, that was 1st party, and try adding all the games that are first party games just for the 360. you only get 3 games that u listed and those are Halo 3 (which will go to the PC in a few years), Mass Effect and Forza Motorsport 2. You can still get the other games you listed on other platforms. :P

The 360 at launch had the highest attach rate in the history of launches (4 games per console sold). It must have had some great games at launch otherwise the attach rate would have sucked (look at PS3 for reference on what a low attach rate is suppose to look like at launch). The 360 currently has a 5.3 attach rate so it actually went up in a years time which is amazing considering the attach rate normally goes down the more consoles you sell.

With the amazing games I already mentioned and many more that are out or soon to be out this year (Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Too Human, GRAW2, Crackdown, NBA Street Homecourt, GH2, Lost Planet, Shadowrun, UT3, etc) the attach rate could get even higher.

High attach rate only means alot of hardcore gamers own the console. That's not necessarily a good thing.

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

check it out!
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=25389325

InfamousC

Medicore titles can sell systems just look at 360s lineup.

Ok, What system has the most AAA's?

trolling is bad TC.

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[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Idonomeus"]When have predictions about how much the PS3 is going to own the competition ever came true? Why should we start thinking it will happen now? Europeans probably have even less cash to waste on games than Americans, so price and lack of games is going to be an issue there too.InfamousC

30 games at launch PS2 NA and European sales are about even at 45 million each.

I wonder how many Europeans cancelled their pre-orders now that DMC4 is coming to 360 ;)

My guess would be 0. Devil May Cry is a medicore game.

At this point I could bump the numerous threads where you praised DMC, but it looks like someone else is beating me to it

"This will surely push some system sales." - yeah, it'll push 360's ;)

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[QUOTE="eastside49er"][QUOTE="sasukedevil"][QUOTE="eastside49er"]

Considering Sony can't even sell out their preorders, that is a bold statement.

Any way a price drop Halo 3 GTA IV Mass Effect  Bioshock Assassin's Creed DMC4 Forza Motorsport 2 oh I could go on for a while = massive sales for the 360 later in the year.

InfamousC

answer this, when u first got ur 360, was it the best and had the greatest games? if u got it at launch there was a really good game or two until march, that was 1st party, and try adding all the games that are first party games just for the 360. you only get 3 games that u listed and those are Halo 3 (which will go to the PC in a few years), Mass Effect and Forza Motorsport 2. You can still get the other games you listed on other platforms. :P

The 360 at launch had the highest attach rate in the history of launches (4 games per console sold). It must have had some great games at launch otherwise the attach rate would have sucked (look at PS3 for reference on what a low attach rate is suppose to look like at launch). The 360 currently has a 5.3 attach rate so it actually went up in a years time which is amazing considering the attach rate normally goes down the more consoles you sell.

With the amazing games I already mentioned and many more that are out or soon to be out this year (Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Too Human, GRAW2, Crackdown, NBA Street Homecourt, GH2, Lost Planet, Shadowrun, UT3, etc) the attach rate could get even higher.

High attach rate only means alot of hardcore gamers own the console. That's not necessarily a good thing.

It obviously is a good thing for the devs/pubs. The 360 has what? 15, 16 games that have already sold over 1 million copies in 16 months time. No wonder the PS3 continues to lose exclusive after exclusive.

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[QUOTE="sasukedevil"][QUOTE="eastside49er"]

Considering Sony can't even sell out their preorders, that is a bold statement.

Any way a price drop + Halo 3 + GTA IV + Mass Effect + Bioshock + Assassin's Creed + DMC4 + Forza Motorsport 2 + oh I could go on for a while = massive sales for the 360 later in the year.

eastside49er

answer this, when u first got ur 360, was it the best and had the greatest games? if u got it at launch there was a really good game or two until march, that was 1st party, and try adding all the games that are first party games just for the 360. you only get 3 games that u listed and those are Halo 3 (which will go to the PC in a few years), Mass Effect and Forza Motorsport 2. You can still get the other games you listed on other platforms. :P

The 360 at launch had the highest attach rate in the history of launches (4 games per console sold). It must have had some great games at launch otherwise the attach rate would have sucked (look at PS3 for reference on what a low attach rate is suppose to look like at launch). The 360 currently has a 5.3 attach rate so it actually went up in a years time which is amazing considering the attach rate normally goes down the more consoles you sell.

With the amazing games I already mentioned and many more that are out or soon to be out this year (Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Too Human, GRAW2, Crackdown, NBA Street Homecourt, GH2, Lost Planet, Shadowrun, UT3, etc) the attach rate could get even higher.

You are right the 360 has an AMAZING attach rate but I just wanted to point on that you are COMPLETELY wrong about the attach rate falling.  The attach rate almost always goes UP over time due to more games coming out and with the older 360 owners buying more games. 

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]lol dmg control cause dmc went multi! and i doubt it will.

If the ps3 hasn't broken the 2.5 million barrier here in what 5 months now? it wont break 4 million in europe by end of year.
InfamousC

It's only been 4 months exactly.



November thata 1
December thats 2
Janurary thats 3
Feburary thats 4
March thats 5
hmmmmmm its march the 20th its far enough into the month thats its 5 months.
Oh and infamous do you have to dmg control. Oh Devil may cry was a mediocre game. lol ok.

*edited for trolling*



I love how you edit the quote so my edit isn't reflected either that, Or it took you 4 minutes to type about 50 words.
Hmmm So let me get this straight, If I we're to go back in time right now? to november 17th it would actually mean I went back in time to december?
Because thats basically what your saying, Actually its not now 19th/20th Its the 20th on the eastren seaboard and central plans, and i do believe europe!

So here we go November 17th
13 days
December 31 days
Janurary 31 days
Feburary 28 days
March 20th 20 days
Lets see 123 days

How many weeks in a month? 4.
How many days in a week? 7.

28-31 days
28x4=112
Hmmm the result? A missing 11 days? where could those 11 days have gone too? hmmmm So Obviously Ps3 was released November 17th, No matter what you think you know of life, math or any thing else, this is not Bizaaro world and when a thing is released in a month we count that month, So the ps3 has been out 5 months.

Face it your dmg controlling:)




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[QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

check it out!
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=25389325

fixer293

Medicore titles can sell systems just look at 360s lineup.

Ok, What system has the most AAA's?

trolling is bad TC.

PS2 or PC.

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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

check it out!
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=25389325

InfamousC

Medicore titles can sell systems just look at 360s lineup.

hahaha then why is the ps3 failing so miserably? And last time I checked the 360 had the most AAA titles. and again, if I'm not mistaken, there are a few games that have sold well over a million copies. I guess mediocre games sell into the millions and win goty's...my bad. YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY SIR!
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#43 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
Member since 2006 • 1699 Posts
[QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

check it out!
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=25389325

InfamousC

Medicore titles can sell systems just look at 360s lineup.

Ok, What system has the most AAA's?

trolling is bad TC.

PS2 or PC.

next gen, buddy. you're in such denial. it's actually comical. but also, very, very pathetic. but mostly humorous. Keep em coming :D!
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#44 fixer293
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[QUOTE="fixer293"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

check it out!
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/show_msgs.php?board_id=314159282&topic_id=25389325

InfamousC

Medicore titles can sell systems just look at 360s lineup.

Ok, What system has the most AAA's?

trolling is bad TC.

PS2 or PC.

Between PS3 and 360..........360,you fail

stop damage controlling

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#45 WilliamRLBaker
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P.S: another example of counting a month.
I was born april 29th....Does that mean I was born in may? since there is only 1 day left in april? hmmmm
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#46 ShakeNBake1491
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So the PS3 was a month old when it was released?
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#47 InfamousC
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It obviously is a good thing for the devs/pubs. The 360 has what? 15, 16 games that have already sold over 1 million copies in 16 months time. No wonder the PS3 continues to lose exclusive after exclusive.

eastside49er

PS3 has gotten some of 360s "exclusives" to so your point is mute.

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#48 eastside49er
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The PS3 has been out 4 months. November 17th - December 17th = 1 month. December 17th - January 17th = 2 months. January 17th - February 17th = 3 months. February 17th - March 17th = 4 months. So it is basically 4 months and 3 days old?
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#49 eastside49er
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[QUOTE="eastside49er"]

It obviously is a good thing for the devs/pubs. The 360 has what? 15, 16 games that have already sold over 1 million copies in 16 months time. No wonder the PS3 continues to lose exclusive after exclusive.

InfamousC

PS3 has gotten some of 360s "exclusives" to so your point is mute.

What exclusives would those be?

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#50 MasterChumly
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[QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]lol dmg control cause dmc went multi! and i doubt it will.

If the ps3 hasn't broken the 2.5 million barrier here in what 5 months now? it wont break 4 million in europe by end of year.
WilliamRLBaker

It's only been 4 months exactly.



November thata 1
December thats 2
Janurary thats 3
Feburary thats 4
March thats 5
hmmmmmm its march the 20th its far enough into the month thats its 5 months.
Oh and infamous do you have to dmg control. Oh Devil may cry was a mediocre game. lol ok.

*edited for trolling*



I love how you edit the quote so my edit isn't reflected either that, Or it took you 4 minutes to type about 50 words.
Hmmm So let me get this straight, If I we're to go back in time right now? to november 17th it would actually mean I went back in time to december?
Because thats basically what your saying, Actually its not now 19th/20th Its the 20th on the eastren seaboard and central plans, and i do believe europe!

So here we go November 17th
13 days
December 31 days
Janurary 31 days
Feburary 28 days
March 20th 20 days
Lets see 123 days

How many weeks in a month? 4.
How many days in a week? 7.

28-31 days
28x4=112
Hmmm the result? A missing 11 days? where could those 11 days have gone too? hmmmm So Obviously Ps3 was released November 17th, No matter what you think you know of life, math or any thing else, this is not Bizaaro world and when a thing is released in a month we count that month, So the ps3 has been out 5 months.

Face it your dmg controlling:)




Your damage control of counting months is worse than his damage control of the PS3 :lol: