EU fines Microsoft 561 million euro for attempted web browser monopoly

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The European Commission said on March 6 that it imposed a 561 million euro fine on Microsoft for failing to offer Windows users the browser choice screen that allows users to pick a web browser, rather than use Microsofts Internet Explorer browser by default.

Microsoft was required to do so for a period of five years by the terms of its antitrust settlement with the Commission in 2009. However, the company failed to include the browser choice screen when it rolled out Windows 7 Service Pack 1.

As a consequence, an estimated 15.3 million Windows users in Europe were not shown the screen over a period of 14 months between May 2011 and July 2012 the EC said.

In 2009, we closed our investigation about a suspected abuse of dominant position by Microsoft due to the tying of Internet Explorer to Windows by accepting commitments offered by the company [...] A failure to comply is a very serious infringement that must be sanctioned accordingly, EC vice president in charge of competition policy, Joaquin Almunia, said in a statement.

Following an in-depth investigation and taking into account Microsoft´s reply to our objections, todays decision finds that Microsoft has indeed breached its legally binding commitments, he said.

Nevertheless, the US software manufacturer got off relatively easy, considering that the EU could have levied a fine of up to 10 per cent of the companys global turnover in the preceding business year, in which case the fine would have been close to $7.9 billion.

http://sofiaglobe.com/2013/03/06/eu-fines-microsoft-561m-euro-for-browser-screen-fail/

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#2 HaRmLeSS_RaGe
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Meh, Bill Gates spends more than that on a Friday night out.

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#3 edidili
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Web browser monopoly yet every one I see uses either chrome or firefox.

What's with you and these articles anyway. How is this relevant to gaming?

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#4 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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Ouch. But I fail to see WHY they need to tell people there are other browsers on THEIR OS. Sounds as dull as saying "ATTEMPT ON MONOPOLY OF SOLITAIRE" because it doesn't show other versions.
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#5 DropsofJupiter
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This has nothing to do with gaming.
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#6 kuraimen
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M$ is doomed.
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#7 Jack-Burton
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This has nothing to do with gaming.DropsofJupiter
Company warz
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#8 Giancar
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And this matters to SW because.... ?????
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#9 SuperNovaftw
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And this matters to SW because.... ?????Giancar
Some people here just love watching M$'s stupiditiy . :P
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#10 Sir_Graham
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[QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"]This has nothing to do with gaming.Jack-Burton
Company warz

Not wise for cows to go there. MS market capitalization $234 Billion. Sony market cap $16 billion. MS credit rating AAA. Sony credit rating BB- :|

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#11 aroxx_ab
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And this matters to SW because.... ?????Giancar

Same reason people take up Sony when they loose money in their TV section etc

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#12 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="Jack-Burton"][QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"]This has nothing to do with gaming.Sir_Graham

Company warz

Not wise for cows to go there. MS credit rating AAA. Sony credit rating BB- :|

:lol: Don't bring a slingshot to a machine gun fight. :P

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#13 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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I liked how MS said it was an oopsy and they forgot and then kept forgetting for a year and a half :P
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[QUOTE="Jack-Burton"][QUOTE="DropsofJupiter"]This has nothing to do with gaming.Sir_Graham

Company warz

Not wise for cows to go there. MS credit rating AAA. Sony credit rating BB- :|

Shhh you will ruin the chance for yet another cow circle jerk.
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#15 Ly_the_Fairy
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Classic Microsoft.

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I liked how MS said it was an oopsy and they forgot and then kept forgetting for a year and a half :Pblue_hazy_basic
Right?! ..and to the credit score game and all that, hey, if it's relevant to System Wars when it's a Sony story, then all three console makers are fair game.
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#17 clr84651
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Web browser monopoly yet every one I see uses either chrome or firefox.

What's with you and these articles anyway. How is this relevant to gaming?

edidili

That's because IE is a slow browser. It's too overloaded with add-ons and stuff. Google Chrome moves 3 times faster. 

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#18 HyperWarlock
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This has nothing to do with gaming at all. 

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Extortion at it's finest.
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There is a link to gaming: browser-based social games make up a solid portion of the gaming industry.  Controlling the browser you play in translates into a huge opportunity for revenue.

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Extortion at it's finest.fernandmondego_
Clearly you don´t know the meaning of extortion.
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#22 fueled-system
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This has nothing to do with gaming at all. 

HyperWarlock
So what? Don't like it go stay in Primary Game Discussion. And I don't know why anyone would willingly ever use IE awful, just awful
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#23 fernandmondego_
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[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]Extortion at it's finest.Nanomage
Clearly you don´t know the meaning of extortion.

Are you sure you do?

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There is a link to gaming: browser-based social games make up a solid portion of the gaming industry.  Controlling the browser you play in translates into a huge opportunity for revenue.

Basinboy
...
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[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]Extortion at it's finest.fernandmondego_

Clearly you don´t know the meaning of extortion.

Are you sure you do?

I´m pretty sure he does and you don´t,read the article,there´s no extortion there at all,just failing to fulfill what they were supposed to do and now they´re paying for it.
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#26 Nanomage
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[QUOTE="Nanomage"][QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]Extortion at it's finest.fernandmondego_

Clearly you don´t know the meaning of extortion.

Are you sure you do?

I know I do.
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#27 HyperWarlock
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[QUOTE="HyperWarlock"]

This has nothing to do with gaming at all. 

fueled-system

So what? Don't like it go stay in Primary Game Discussion. And I don't know why anyone would willingly ever use IE awful, just awful

What has Microsoft getting fined for somthing non-console or even gaming related got to do with System wars?

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#28 ralphster
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People should try out IE10,it's still not the best out there but it defintely doesnt deserve all the hate it gets and its constantly improving.People saying nobody uses IE should check the fact that IE holds over 55% of browser market share. :P Just putting it out there.....

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#29 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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There is a link to gaming: browser-based social games make up a solid portion of the gaming industry.  Controlling the browser you play in translates into a huge opportunity for revenue.

Basinboy
But how were they controlling it? I dont see the android or ios or mac or linux platforms having to tell people "that there are other browsers available" ..... it seems so stupid.
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#30 fueled-system
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[QUOTE="fueled-system"][QUOTE="HyperWarlock"]

This has nothing to do with gaming at all. 

HyperWarlock

So what? Don't like it go stay in Primary Game Discussion. And I don't know why anyone would willingly ever use IE awful, just awful

What has Microsoft getting fined for somthing non-console or even gaming related got to do with System wars?

Microsoft if you did not know is involved with the system known as the xbox 360
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[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

There is a link to gaming: browser-based social games make up a solid portion of the gaming industry.  Controlling the browser you play in translates into a huge opportunity for revenue.

DropsofJupiter
...

Browser Warz
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#32 TheEroica  Moderator
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$20 says ms steals your baby in the middle of the night... bring on the godbox 720 I say!

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#33 Ly_the_Fairy
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People should try out IE10,it's still not the best out there but it defintely doesnt deserve all the hate it gets and its constantly improving.People saying nobody uses IE should check the fact that IE holds over 55% of browser market share. :P Just putting it out there.....

ralphster

I hear it's the fastest browser available, and the most secure one as well.

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#34 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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[QUOTE="ralphster"]

People should try out IE10,it's still not the best out there but it defintely doesnt deserve all the hate it gets and its constantly improving.People saying nobody uses IE should check the fact that IE holds over 55% of browser market share. :P Just putting it out there.....

Ly_the_Fairy

I hear it's the fastest browser available, and the most secure one as well.

Performance-wise that is true. But it follows the odl archaic (All tabs on one process) philosophy, this means less RAM used, but crashing causes all windows to close AND pages do not load as fast as say google chrome. Microsoft's lack of really good extensions and frameworks hurts its image aswell. It is also the hardest to develop for due to horrible legacy versions, sadly the opposite of what microsoft usually stand for.
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#35 Rocker6
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Not really SW material, and also, I don't see any browser monopoly, alternatives to IE are well known to just about anyone.

And obviously, I'd never consider using it, my fav is Mozilla, though for some reason, it's been locking my PC lately, so I had to switch to Chrome...

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#36 ralphster
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[QUOTE="ralphster"]

People should try out IE10,it's still not the best out there but it defintely doesnt deserve all the hate it gets and its constantly improving.People saying nobody uses IE should check the fact that IE holds over 55% of browser market share. :P Just putting it out there.....

Ly_the_Fairy

I hear it's the fastest browser available, and the most secure one as well.

Its definitely fast but Im not sure about the fastest.....I have read a few reports saying it is the most secure browser out there :) Unlike Chrome and Firefox IE doesn't depend on add-ons to make it secure.I'm a Chrome user btw if anyone thinks I'm hating :P
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#37 navyguy21
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lol, they do this all the time and it always gets dropped or overturned in a settlement and MS agrees to make IE updates and installs optional
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#38 Gxgear
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Almost 3 billion usd fined in the last 5 years, doesn't seem to bother them much.

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[QUOTE="HyperWarlock"]

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]So what? Don't like it go stay in Primary Game Discussion. And I don't know why anyone would willingly ever use IE awful, just awfulfueled-system

What has Microsoft getting fined for somthing non-console or even gaming related got to do with System wars?

Microsoft if you did not know is involved with the system known as the xbox 360

So? Microsoft is a massive internatioanl company. The people making decisions regarding operating systems have nothing to do with Xbox. This entire thread has nothing to do with xbox or even gaming. So it's silly.

We might aswell create threads on Sony's ever falling marketshare with mobile phones. Or perhaps their disastrious financial situation that is forcing them to sell real estate. 

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#40 Senor_Kami
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Meanwhile, Apple ships iTunes and Safari with every copy of OSX and the EU loves them.
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#41 LustForSoul
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Monopoly? The other browsers didn't make a world class OS like Microsoft. Those old folks at EU don't know whack about computers. Only makes sense that a Windows computer has everything windows installed on it.
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#42 questiontime23
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They'll appeal, and win. It's hard to accuse someone for monopolizing when they have not got the majority share of browsers.
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#43 super600  Moderator
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What does this have to do with SW.

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#44 k2theswiss
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people did make a choice. When they bought windows... 

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I believe MS owns the Danish government something 1 billion euros due to some tax sh!t. :p
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#46 xxgunslingerxx
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And this matters to SW because.... ?????Giancar

 

well lems are making threads about sony stock status equaling junk

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#47 clyde46
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The only time I've seen people use IE was in an office where they no choice but to use it. Everyone I know either uses Chrome or Firefox.
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#48 lundy86_4
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Kind of silly. I'm not sure, under what law, they are required to give an option, considering it is their OS. 

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#49 clyde46
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Kind of silly. I'm not sure, under what law, they are required to give an option, considering it is their OS. 

lundy86_4
Competition I think. Which is odd as every other browser is free.
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#50 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Kind of silly. I'm not sure, under what law, they are required to give an option, considering it is their OS. 

clyde46

Competition I think. Which is odd as every other browser is free.

I think that's the best fit.

Pretty much, plus every other browser is actually bandied about, quite a lot. At the ed of the day, it is a Microsoft OS, and it's an odd ruling... I could be wrong, given a lack of understanding of prior rulings, and/or laws.