Durango, more like Lolango. GPU weaker than expected.

Lol(ango). Victory is ours

[spoiler] But seriously, I don't expect much of a gap in power/graphics [/spoiler]

I have no idea why MS thought it might be a good idea to use one of the weakest aspects of the ps3, the split ram.

Someone is going to get fired.

ReadingRainbow4

Are people forgetting that the Ps3 had a significantly weaker GPU than the 360 yet it's still marginally more powerful, also, i love the way cows jump on every RUMOUR as if it where fact,loldelta3074

[QUOTE="delta3074"]Are people forgetting that the Ps3 had a significantly weaker GPU than the 360 yet it's still marginally more powerful, also, i love the way cows jump on every RUMOUR as if it where fact,loltormentos

Is it just me or does all this seem very familiar to 2006 with all that umm, stuff that was said about how PS3 when release, will crush the weaker 360? :o

Yeah, thought so. :P

what makes me think you've been fapping over this...marklarmer

Is it just me or does all this seem very familiar to 2006 with all that umm, stuff that was said about how PS3 when release, will crush the weaker 360? :o

Yeah, thought so. :P

SecretPolice

Well to be fair sony learned from their design mistakes with the PS3. As far as I know the PS4 is using AMD's tech much like the 720 is except it has better RAM and a more powerful GPU. So it should be alot more clear cut this time, of course I could be wrong because I really haven't been following these rumours in detail.

Is it just me or does all this seem very familiar to 2006 with all that umm, stuff that was said about how PS3 when release, will crush the weaker 360? :o

Yeah, thought so. :P

SecretPolice

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Oh yeah! Gandalf with a shotgun! That would have made the movies so much better.

delta3074

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

Oh yeah! Gandalf with a shotgun! That would have made the movies so much better.

KungfuKitten

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Is it just me or does all this seem very familiar to 2006 with all that umm, stuff that was said about how PS3 when release, will crush the weaker 360? :o

Yeah, thought so. :P

tormentos

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Now even I'm getting tired of these rumours.ReadingRainbow4

This isn't a rumor.

An article from VGLEAKS isn't a rumor? Wow. Hey, I have a bridge for sale... cheap!

PS3 was supposed to be much much stronger then the 360. Guesse how that turned out? Most multiplats look better on the 360 then on the ps3. Oh well, have fun paying 599 US dollars for your console.

Is it just me or does all this seem very familiar to 2006 with all that umm, stuff that was said about how PS3 when release, will crush the weaker 360? :o

Yeah, thought so. :P

SecretPolice

I was just thinking exactly the same, wait and see people!

I imagine the specs will be almost identical both on paper and real World performance in the end anyway

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Is it just me or does all this seem very familiar to 2006 with all that umm, stuff that was said about how PS3 when release, will crush the weaker 360? :o

Yeah, thought so. :P

SecretPolice

guilty! :oops:

I was a true cow on here back in 2005/2006/2007.

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Oh please a week after sony showed the specs of the PS3,MS did a chart to show how the xbox 360 had 3 times more general purpose code power on the 360 CPU than sony had on Cell,because sony had 1 core and the Xenon had 3,alone with another stupids charts as well,in fact the first to over hype the console was MS. When they unveil the xbox on may 12 2005 on MTV.claiming 1TF performance,both companies played with specs and MS was first._Matt_

guilty! :oops:

I was a true cow on here back in 2005/2006/2007.

I'm stating to wonder if all the crow that many had to eat this gen are now hungering for some next gen desert...

:P

[QUOTE="delta3074"]Are people forgetting that the Ps3 had a significantly weaker GPU than the 360 yet it's still marginally more powerful, also, i love the way cows jump on every RUMOUR as if it where fact,loltormentos

Assuming you know what you are talking about and those specs are real, how will Durango and Orbis compare to 360 and PS3 in capabilities?

I was just thinking exactly the same, wait and see people!

I imagine the specs will be almost identical both on paper and real World performance in the end anyway

_Matt_

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="delta3074"]Are people forgetting that the Ps3 had a significantly weaker GPU than the 360 yet it's still marginally more powerful, also, i love the way cows jump on every RUMOUR as if it where fact,lolPAL360

Assuming you know what you are talking about and those specs are real, how will Durango and Orbis compare to 360 and PS3 in capabilities?

If those specs are real, probs about 4 times more powerful than current gen machines.

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]I'm talking about the way thing were talked about in SW - ya know, almost precisely what's going on right now with ahem, won't mention any names but people on here spouting off about specs and performance based on nothing but rumours. :P

SecretPolice

guilty! :oops:

I was a true cow on here back in 2005/2006/2007.

I'm stating to wonder if all the crow that many had to eat this gen are now hungering for some next gen desert...

:P

Why thank you sir.

mmm pie! :P

PAL360

If those specs are real, probs about 4 times more powerful than current gen machines.

_Matt_

Enough power to run Battlefirld 3 or Crysis 3 on max settings, Unreal Engine 4, DX11, etc?

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

If those specs are real, probs about 4 times more powerful than current gen machines.

PAL360

Enough power to run Battlefirld 3 or Crysis 3 on max settings, Unreal Engine 4, DX11, etc?

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

If those specs are real, probs about 4 times more powerful than current gen machines.

PAL360

Enough power to run Battlefirld 3 or Crysis 3 on max settings, Unreal Engine 4, DX11, etc?

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

If those specs are real, probs about 4 times more powerful than current gen machines.

PAL360

Enough power to run Battlefirld 3 or Crysis 3 on max settings, Unreal Engine 4, DX11, etc?

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

If those specs are real, probs about 4 times more powerful than current gen machines.

PAL360

Enough power to run Battlefirld 3 or Crysis 3 on max settings, Unreal Engine 4, DX11, etc?

I would say so yes. Maybe not 60fps, but yeah, 1080p 30fps will play those. Obviously I have no proof, benchmarks, etc. but just an educated guess. Perhaps not at launch title stage, but shortly after.

But as the next gen progresses I am sure we will see games looking maybe even better on the consoles than Crysis 3 Max, etc.

even if next gen consles are alot more powerful than ps3 and 360 i think devs will go with 30 fps and 720p. they don't care about 60 fps or 1080p they just want graphics.TheGuardian03

According to rumors, Battlefield 4 will have improved graphics, run at 60 fps with 64 players, on next gen consoles.

even if next gen consles are alot more powerful than ps3 and 360 i think devs will go with 30 fps and 720p. they don't care about 60 fps or 1080p they just want graphics.TheGuardian03

I'm confused, you just contradicted yourself. How can they care about graphics but not about 1080? The resolution is all part of the graphics.

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]even if next gen consles are alot more powerful than ps3 and 360 i think devs will go with 30 fps and 720p. they don't care about 60 fps or 1080p they just want graphics.PAL360

According to rumors, Battlefield 4 will have improved graphics, run at 60 fps with 64 players, on next gen consoles.

Seems reasonable. I would very much like this to be so :) . Do you have any source for this?

even if next gen consles are alot more powerful than ps3 and 360 i think devs will go with 30 fps and 720p. they don't care about 60 fps or 1080p they just want graphics.TheGuardian03

There is 0% chance of that happening. 

It would be asinine.  Ramp the textures up 400% or more but render in 720p so we can't see any of it?

Btw it's not going to be 4x, it's 6x minimum current gen even for Durango.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]even if next gen consles are alot more powerful than ps3 and 360 i think devs will go with 30 fps and 720p. they don't care about 60 fps or 1080p they just want graphics._Matt_

According to rumors, Battlefield 4 will have improved graphics, run at 60 fps with 64 players, on next gen consoles.

Seems reasonable. I would very much like this to be so :) . Do you have any source for this?

Indeed =)

http://www.examiner.com/article/playstation-4-and-battlefield-4-will-debut-together-details-leaked

There are many other sources if you google it, but then again, just rumors so far.

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

According to rumors, Battlefield 4 will have improved graphics, run at 60 fps with 64 players, on next gen consoles.

PAL360

Seems reasonable. I would very much like this to be so :) . Do you have any source for this?

Indeed =)

http://www.examiner.com/article/playstation-4-and-battlefield-4-will-debut-together-details-leaked

There are many other sources if you google it, but then again, just rumors so far.

Thank you sir, that's some quite positive rumours, even if only rumours

I think we'll see quite a lot more games running at 60fps next gen, the power is there.

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]even if next gen consles are alot more powerful than ps3 and 360 i think devs will go with 30 fps and 720p. they don't care about 60 fps or 1080p they just want graphics.Chozofication

There is 0% chance of that happening. 

It would be asinine.  Ramp the textures up 400% or more but render in 720p so we can't see any of it?

Btw it's not going to be 4x, it's 6x minimum current gen even for Durango.

The 4x was a reserved and down to Earth estimate I thought.

I think we'll see quite a lot more games running at 60fps next gen, the power is there.

Chozofication

I think we'll see quite a lot more games running at 60fps next gen, the power is there.

Chozofication

Agreed, and 1080p too.

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]even if next gen consles are alot more powerful than ps3 and 360 i think devs will go with 30 fps and 720p. they don't care about 60 fps or 1080p they just want graphics._Matt_

There is 0% chance of that happening. 

It would be asinine.  Ramp the textures up 400% or more but render in 720p so we can't see any of it?

Btw it's not going to be 4x, it's 6x minimum current gen even for Durango.

The 4x was a reserved and down to Earth estimate I thought.

The pitcairn gpu's (AMD 78xx series) in both consoles (even though Durango's looks to be cut down a lot) is an enourmous leap. 

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

There is 0% chance of that happening. 

It would be asinine.  Ramp the textures up 400% or more but render in 720p so we can't see any of it?

Btw it's not going to be 4x, it's 6x minimum current gen even for Durango.

Chozofication

The 4x was a reserved and down to Earth estimate I thought.

The pitcairn gpu's (AMD 78xx series) in both consoles (even though Durango's looks to be cut down a lot) is an enourmous leap. 

If rumours are true, it will be an enourmous leap yes, would you not say 4x is a large leap anyway? :P

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

 

The 4x was a reserved and down to Earth estimate I thought.

_Matt_

The pitcairn gpu's (AMD 78xx series) in both consoles (even though Durango's looks to be cut down a lot) is an enourmous leap. 

If rumours are true, it will be an enourmous leap yes, would you not say 4x is a large leap anyway? :P

Nope.  That'd be pathetic.  :P  Wii U is already close to double. 

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]even if next gen consles are alot more powerful than ps3 and 360 i think devs will go with 30 fps and 720p. they don't care about 60 fps or 1080p they just want graphics.TheGuardian03

I'm confused, you just contradicted yourself. How can they care about graphics but not about 1080? The resolution is all part of the graphics.

I think a lot of games this gen would have benefitted a lot more from a higher resolution than more effects to be honest. Examples come to mind being Killzone 3, Red Dead Redemption, both had great textures, effects, etc. for consoles, but what let both down was the low resolutions. Games need to be higher resolution for the graphics and effects to be fully appreciated.

I agree we will still see 30fps games, but I highly doubt 720p will be the norm, that's like releasing the ps3 and 360 with all that power but keeping it in standard definition all those years ago. 

i agree, it would be great to see games like KZ3 in 1080p, hopefully i am wrong.TheGuardian03

Look at Hawken on the PC. When I first saw it, my first thought was it looked like KZ3 at 1080p.

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"][QUOTE="_Matt_"]

 

I'm confused, you just contradicted yourself. How can they care about graphics but not about 1080? The resolution is all part of the graphics.

_Matt_

I think a lot of games this gen would have benefitted a lot more from a higher resolution than more effects to be honest. Examples come to mind being Killzone 3, Red Dead Redemption, both had great textures, effects, etc. for consoles, but what let both down was the low resolutions. Games need to be higher resolution for the graphics and effects to be fully appreciated.

I agree we will still see 30fps games, but I highly doubt 720p will be the norm, that's like releasing the ps3 and 360 with all that power but keeping it in standard definition all those years ago. 

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"] having a game in 1080p pushes the hardware, why do that when you can have it in 720p and have more effects. they will have alot more power so they will use that for something else, don't count on 1080p or 60 fps, this is what i believe. 60 fps will be fighters, racers and 2d/3d platformers and hack and slash games.sonny2dap

I think a lot of games this gen would have benefitted a lot more from a higher resolution than more effects to be honest. Examples come to mind being Killzone 3, Red Dead Redemption, both had great textures, effects, etc. for consoles, but what let both down was the low resolutions. Games need to be higher resolution for the graphics and effects to be fully appreciated.

I agree we will still see 30fps games, but I highly doubt 720p will be the norm, that's like releasing the ps3 and 360 with all that power but keeping it in standard definition all those years ago.