Dragon Age 2 GS Review 8/10

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#101 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="percech"]People saying it didn't flop need to check themselves considering that every reviewer has said the game has been greatly downgraded.kozzy1234

- 9/10

- 85/100

- 9.4/10

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- 90/10

- 3.5 stars/4 stars

- 83%/100

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- 5 stars/5 stars

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- 87%

Average so far = 88.4%

You still didn't add the 7/10 and 6/10 scores even though you knew of their existence..
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#103 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

- 9/10

- 85/100

- 9.4/10

- 88/100

- 87/100

- 90/10

- 3.5 stars/4 stars

- 83%/100

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Average so far = 88.4%

kozzy1234

You still didn't add the 7/10 and 6/10 scores even though you knew of their existence..

Listen here, I ahve not seen thsoe reviews myself, i went to another forum and got ALL THE REVIEWS they ahd listed. Those two were not in there. If you notice its not jsut good scores, there is 7/10 and 77/100 there to.

But keep trolling, you are mighty good at it.

You're the one who is mashing up numbers without any link or source. I think Ill trust metacritic more.

http://www.g4tv.com/games/xbox-360/64227/dragon-age-ii/review/

http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2011/03/08/dragon-age-2-review/2

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#104 Pray_to_me
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[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

Even though the first game was on consoles and published by EA it's obvious we can blame consoles and EA for the second getting a lower score.

Ravensmash

How?! The fact it sold well and had a positive reception/large fanbase on consoles shows that whatever 'dumbing down' has occured (not denying it) has affected all gamers. Really wish we could all stop blaming console gamers for a developers decision.

I was being sarcastic. Why didn't Hermits blame consoles or EA when the original got a 9.5?

"Game is amazing must be because it's on consoles!" You didn't hear any of that.

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#105 kozzy1234
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Gamespot has one of the better reviews so far, only part of the review I dont agree with Kevin on is the story.

Any score in the 8/10, 8.5/10 or 9/10 are about what I have experienced so far.

Might not be as awesome as Origins so far, but better then expected.

Glad I cancel my preorder after the demo and gave this game a full chance.

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#106 LookAnDrolL
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[QUOTE="percech"]People saying it didn't flop need to check themselves considering that every reviewer has said the game has been greatly downgraded.Ravensmash
We're talking about the hype meta-game that occurs in SW, as far as I'm aware it did not flop :)

Fair enough, wanna go saying lalalalala i don't hear you... i don't hear you, be my guest, do it But the reality here its that the sequel to a 9.5 game, one of the finest RPG on this generataion HAS been dumbed down
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#107 svenus97
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Expected the score :) My personal hype is still AAA, and the game so far has been good :) I'm not the one to talk cause I'm biased, but I'm loving it. It's just a shame that ME2 got a 9.5 when compared to DA2.

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#108 edidili
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

Even though the first game was on consoles and published by EA it's obvious we can blame consoles and EA for the second getting a lower score.

Pray_to_me

How?! The fact it sold well and had a positive reception/large fanbase on consoles shows that whatever 'dumbing down' has occured (not denying it) has affected all gamers. Really wish we could all stop blaming console gamers for a developers decision.

I was being sarcastic. Why didn't Hermits blame consoles or EA when the original got a 9.5?

"Game is amazing must be because it's on consoles!" You didn't hear any of that.

DA:O started as a PC exclusive, only later on Bioware decided to port it in consoles. That's why it played like ... in consoles and it felt right for PC.

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#109 Jankarcop
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thanks, xbox
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#110 kozzy1234
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RPGSite 8/10 - Dragon Age II is without a doubt a really good game with a few small but glaring flaws. (DAO 91/100)

Strategy Informer 8.5/10 (PS3) - There's good moments, there's bad moments, there's weird moments... (DAOPS3 9.3/10| DAO PC 9.2/10 | DAOX360 8.5/10)

Joystiq 4/5 -

here are three more. General, whats the exact website of those two other reivews? Links to site please so I can add them.

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#111 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="percech"]People saying it didn't flop need to check themselves considering that every reviewer has said the game has been greatly downgraded.LookAnDrolL
We're talking about the hype meta-game that occurs in SW, as far as I'm aware it did not flop :)

Fair enough, wanna go saying lalalalala i don't hear you... i don't hear you, be my guest, do it But the reality here its that the sequel to a 9.5 game, one of the finest RPG on this generataion HAS been dumbed down

:| When did I deny that? In regards to the dumbing down - if it makes it a more enjoyable game for me, then great!
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#112 DerpyMcDerp
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Good to see that Gamespot at least has some integrity left. :D

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#113 GeneralShowzer
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RPGSite 8/10 - Dragon Age II is without a doubt a really good game with a few small but glaring flaws. (DAO 91/100)

Strategy Informer 8.5/10 (PS3) - There's good moments, there's bad moments, there's weird moments... (DAOPS3 9.3/10| DAO PC 9.2/10 | DAOX360 8.5/10)

Joystiq 4/5 -

here are three more. General, whats the exact website of those two other reivews? Links to site please so I can add them.

kozzy1234

:P I did post them in my edited post .

You don't have to, it's metacritics job. Why don't you finish the game before start a defensive campaign about it, you can't really judge the story from so short time.

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#114 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

RPGSite 8/10 - Dragon Age II is without a doubt a really good game with a few small but glaring flaws. (DAO 91/100)

Strategy Informer 8.5/10 (PS3) - There's good moments, there's bad moments, there's weird moments... (DAOPS3 9.3/10| DAO PC 9.2/10 | DAOX360 8.5/10)

Joystiq 4/5 -

here are three more. General, whats the exact website of those two other reivews? Links to site please so I can add them.

GeneralShowzer

:P I did post them in my edited post .

You don't have to, it's metacritics job. Why don't you finish the game before start a defensive campaign about it, you can't really judge the story from so short time.


True but I just like people to have a good view of the differnt reviews and scores, weither its the usual reviews or some from other countries,etc..

I am not beign defensive at all, I actualyl think gamespots review is spot on, did you not see me mention that? 8/10, 8.5/10 or 9/10 seem pretty spot on to me from 4 hours with the game so far. Might change by the end of the game, but so far its better then expected after the demo.


Also I am takign a break and having some lunch for your information.

And yes you can tell the quality of a story 4 hours into it. Maybe not get the full picture, but so far the story, choices and especially the writing of hte dialogue is very good. Its faster paced which im not huge on and the lack of ZOOM out further sucks, but those are my only issues with the game so far. After lunch and a smoke I will get back to the game.

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#115 AdrianWerner
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No surprises here. The BioWare that made Baldurs Gate 1-2 is dead. Dragon Age: Origins was it's swan song.

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Can't even change the armor of your party members anymore, eh? That's what I also hated about Mass Effect 2. Only being able to update stuff instead of getting new shiny things.
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#117 110million
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No surprises here. The BioWare that made Baldurs Gate 1-2 is dead. Dragon Age: Origins was it's swan song.

AdrianWerner
And a poor one at that compared to their older titles still. I was okay with DA: O though, didn't think they could have ever strayed even FARTHER from BG.
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#118 svenus97
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Just seen the review, so Origins was the better game, but DA2 is the better RPG ? :P

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#119 dakan45
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FLOP!!! :P
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#120 110million
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Just seen the review, so Origins was the better game, but DA2 is the better RPG ? :P

svenus97
Sorry wat, most of its RPG features were greatly reduced, if anything, DA: O was the better RPG, and you could maybe argue DA2 is the better overall game, but not with a 1.5 score difference.
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#121 PatchMaster
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Pretty much what was expected.

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#122 finalstar2007
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I sure noticed gamspot been soo tough on game reviews this year. the only game to score very high this year was LBP 2. i wonder what they'll give MW3.. another 9?

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#123 jedikevin2
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I sure noticed gamspot been soo tough on game reviews this year. the only game to score very high this year was LBP 2. i wonder what they'll give MW3.. another 9?

finalstar2007

Whats cool is they are starting to go back and review PC games they completely skipped over last year and actually reviewing smaller dev games more...

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#124 Miroku32
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I sure noticed gamspot been soo tough on game reviews this year. the only game to score very high this year was LBP 2. i wonder what they'll give MW3.. another 9?

finalstar2007
Hopefully not. GS reviewers seem to have gotten more harsher reviewing than before.
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#125 GeneralShowzer
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I sure noticed gamspot been soo tough on game reviews this year. the only game to score very high this year was LBP 2. i wonder what they'll give MW3.. another 9?

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They are not at all far from the average. KZ3 has 85 average, LBP 2 has 92.
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#126 illmatic87
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So FFXIII is confirmed as the better streamlined RPG amirite?
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#127 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

RPGSite 8/10 - Dragon Age II is without a doubt a really good game with a few small but glaring flaws. (DAO 91/100)

Strategy Informer 8.5/10 (PS3) - There's good moments, there's bad moments, there's weird moments... (DAOPS3 9.3/10| DAO PC 9.2/10 | DAOX360 8.5/10)

Joystiq 4/5 -

here are three more. General, whats the exact website of those two other reivews? Links to site please so I can add them.

kozzy1234

:P I did post them in my edited post .

You don't have to, it's metacritics job. Why don't you finish the game before start a defensive campaign about it, you can't really judge the story from so short time.


True but I just like people to have a good view of the differnt reviews and scores, weither its the usual reviews or some from other countries,etc..

I am not beign defensive at all, I actualyl think gamespots review is spot on, did you not see me mention that? 8/10, 8.5/10 or 9/10 seem pretty spot on to me from 4 hours with the game so far. Might change by the end of the game, but so far its better then expected after the demo.


Also I am takign a break and having some lunch for your information.

And yes you can tell the quality of a story 4 hours into it. Maybe not get the full picture, but so far the story, choices and especially the writing of hte dialogue is very good. Its faster paced which im not huge on and the lack of ZOOM out further sucks, but those are my only issues with the game so far. After lunch and a smoke I will get back to the game.

Well, I'm glad you are enjoying it. I still say you can't judge the story, and i can guarantee you will change your mind about the story and the character the farther you go along.

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#128 subyman
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DA:O got a 9.5 so this is a major step back for the series. Pity.

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#129 Espada12
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You know people called us haters and flamed us when we said this.
  • Multiple elements have been inexplicably simplified over the original
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#131 Jankarcop
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

I sure noticed gamspot been soo tough on game reviews this year. the only game to score very high this year was LBP 2. i wonder what they'll give MW3.. another 9?

jedikevin2

Whats cool is they are starting to go back and review PC games they completely skipped over last year and actually reviewing smaller dev games more...

which ones have they reviewed?

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#132 Renzokucant
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Wow 2011 scores are floptastic
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#133 Vaasman
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So I just picked up the game today. Won't play till later, but what difficulty did the reviewer play at? I'm thinking of just skipping straight to hard for a challenge.

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:lol: Thank you consoles.

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#135 svenus97
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[QUOTE="svenus97"]

Just seen the review, so Origins was the better game, but DA2 is the better RPG ? :P

110million
Sorry wat, most of its RPG features were greatly reduced, if anything, DA: O was the better RPG, and you could maybe argue DA2 is the better overall game, but not with a 1.5 score difference.

Didn't Kevin say at the end of the review that basically choices are better and matter more than in DA:O ? I was also being partially sarcastic.
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:lol: Thank you consoles.

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Those can't be actual in game screenshots... Unless it's on PC on low setting.

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#137 SaudiFury
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fell a little short then what i expected, but i'll be the judge of it once i get it.

still very excited to play this game.

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#138 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

:lol: Thank you consoles.

GeneralShowzer

Those can't be actual in game screenshots... Unless it's on PC on low setting.

It's all ingame and on Highest + DX 11. You can tell by looking at their background of other people.

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#139 tenaka2
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You know people called us haters and flamed us when we said this.
  • Multiple elements have been inexplicably simplified over the original
Espada12
Well at least they mentioned it in the review, a lot of people still deny it however.
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#140 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

:lol: Thank you consoles.

tagyhag

Those can't be actual in game screenshots... Unless it's on PC on low setting.

It's all ingame and on Highest + DX 11. You can tell by looking at their background of other people.

Nah, it doesn't look that bad.
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#141 tagyhag
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Nah, it doesn't look that bad.GeneralShowzer

If you look around Kirkwall you'll notice them. :P

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#142 edidili
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So I just picked up the game today. Won't play till later, but what difficulty did the reviewer play at? I'm thinking of just skipping straight to hard for a challenge.

Vaasman

He said DA2 is easier than DA:O. The normal difficulty on DA:O was too easy making it a boring gameplay with little challenge. I say go for hard.

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#143 jedikevin2
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[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

I sure noticed gamspot been soo tough on game reviews this year. the only game to score very high this year was LBP 2. i wonder what they'll give MW3.. another 9?

Jankarcop

Whats cool is they are starting to go back and review PC games they completely skipped over last year and actually reviewing smaller dev games more...

which ones have they reviewed?

Joly Rover, new Magesty 2, magicka, zeit Squared, monday night combat. Couple others but was honestly surprised to see them giving back some of the respect to Pc gamers. Sadly, they have a long way to go but atleast seeing a couple non "mainstream" games get reviewed will keep things going.

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#144 Espada12
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Were those screenshots taken with or without that hi-res texture pack bioware released? They couldn't even give us our graphics on the disc! T_T

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#145 Riverwolf007
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i was just goofing around in the xbl marketplace and noticed day one dlc. shame shame.

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#146 GulliversTravel
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BioWare messed up on the one thing they get right even if the game sucks:?
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#147 Lethalhazard
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Casuals are going to eat it up. My friend already bought the game and DLC, and hes saying its better than the original because "the combat is faster and its easer." So yeah. It'll sell more than the first and it'll probably increase trends towards this type of game (half-assed, DLC ridden, pre-order bonus x 20 games).
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#148 LookAnDrolL
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[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]Casuals are going to eat it up. My friend already bought the game and DLC, and hes saying its better than the original because "the combat is faster and its easer." So yeah. It'll sell more than the first and it'll probably increase trends towards this type of game (half-assed, DLC ridden, pre-order bonus x 20 games).

From the looks of things, I can see that happening... A damn shame that some people have such a low standars
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#149 vincent380
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i personally didnt care for the past dragon age games but i enjoyed the demo of 2. so im getting it.
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#150 AGMing
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off work next week so plenty of time to form an opinion on the game but the simplification does worry me. I know Bioware are big devs but i think the talent in the company may be spread a little thin. ME, DA and TOR are all big big games, you look at any other developers and they are making 1 or 2 games at any one time but bioware have 2 big budget games and an MMO on the go. They would have hired more people as needed but i guess those originally at Bioware before being brought by EA have been spread out between the different projects.