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Ah, yes, more empty hype and PR bullsh!t from Crytek.
It's hilarious when you consider the fact that this is a company that basically scrubbed out of big-budget game development.
Tell me, how'a that plan to go free-to-play working out for you? :lol:
So it's all playing catch up with idTech4(doom3)? :?He kinda speaks the truth even though he comes off as a Dbag. Cryengine has been doing everything in real time while UE4 has just started doing stuff in realtime. Epic is kinda playing catchup now.
painguy1
So it's all playing catch up with idTech4(doom3)? :?[QUOTE="painguy1"]
He kinda speaks the truth even though he comes off as a Dbag. Cryengine has been doing everything in real time while UE4 has just started doing stuff in realtime. Epic is kinda playing catchup now.
Inconsistancy
uhhh wut? idtech4 became irrelelvent years ago. u cant compare the two. We aer talking about modern tech. Crytek made the effort to consistenty update their engine as much as possible where as idtech did not. idtech has become a pretty static engine as far as i can tell.
Star Wars 1313 is using a heavily modified version of UE3. You can buy the UE3 source for a pretty penny and modify it however u want. i wouldnt call it UE3 tbh.Star Wars 1313 uses Unreal Engine 3.0 and looks way better than anything Cryengine has come up with
loosingENDS
So it's all playing catch up with idTech4(doom3)? :?[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]
[QUOTE="painguy1"]
He kinda speaks the truth even though he comes off as a Dbag. Cryengine has been doing everything in real time while UE4 has just started doing stuff in realtime. Epic is kinda playing catchup now.
painguy1
uhhh wut? idtech4 became irrelelvent years ago. u cant compare the two. We aer talking about modern tech. Crytek made the effort to consistenty update their engine as much as possible where as idtech did not. idtech has become a pretty static engine as far as i can tell.
Was just being pedantic :P, since you said UE4 just started to do stuff real time, and idTech4 was the first relatively modern engine to do all real time crap... Kinda funny that id went back to the baking everything as the focus in tech5.[QUOTE="painguy1"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] So it's all playing catch up with idTech4(doom3)? :?
Inconsistancy
uhhh wut? idtech4 became irrelelvent years ago. u cant compare the two. We aer talking about modern tech. Crytek made the effort to consistenty update their engine as much as possible where as idtech did not. idtech has become a pretty static engine as far as i can tell.
Was just being pedantic :P, since you said UE4 just started to do stuff real time, and idTech4 was the first relatively modern engine to do all real time crap... Kinda funny that id went back to the baking everything as the focus in tech5. Far Cry 1 released before Doom 3 and idTech4. Even the original Cryengine was doing the "What you see is what you play" stuff. That has kinda been Crytek's thing since their original tech demo.[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="painguy1"]Was just being pedantic :P, since you said UE4 just started to do stuff real time, and idTech4 was the first relatively modern engine to do all real time crap... Kinda funny that id went back to the baking everything as the focus in tech5. Far Cry 1 released before Doom 3 and idTech4. Even the original Cryengine was doing the "What you see is what you play" stuff. That has kinda been Crytek's thing since their original tech demo.uhhh wut? idtech4 became irrelelvent years ago. u cant compare the two. We aer talking about modern tech. Crytek made the effort to consistenty update their engine as much as possible where as idtech did not. idtech has become a pretty static engine as far as i can tell.
ferret-gamer
Pretty sure thems are baked shadow maps, not real time. Doom3 used no tricks, all the light/shadow was real time.
[QUOTE="painguy1"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] So it's all playing catch up with idTech4(doom3)? :?
Inconsistancy
uhhh wut? idtech4 became irrelelvent years ago. u cant compare the two. We aer talking about modern tech. Crytek made the effort to consistenty update their engine as much as possible where as idtech did not. idtech has become a pretty static engine as far as i can tell.
Was just being pedantic :P, since you said UE4 just started to do stuff real time, and idTech4 was the first relatively modern engine to do all real time crap... Kinda funny that id went back to the baking everything as the focus in tech5.oh lol. its all good. :P
[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]It's sickening the amount of hate it's getting from my fellow hermits just because they made one crap game(crysis 2) out of 3 games they made in total, and the rest of the two are fantastic games. Crysis 3 is still in development let's give them a chance, it could be that they learnt their lesson after crysis 2. I just can't understand the hate for crytek from my fellow hermits. Crytek switch to multiplatform development from PC Exclusive devlopment while Epic completely ditched the PC platform and I can't understand the hermit's love for Epic games. And yes Cryengine 3 was doing all those things 3 years before and is much easier to use, speaking from my experience of the SDK.VandalvideoThe criticism I've seen here doesn't sound like its coming from a jaded PC fanbase. It seems like legitimate concerns about Crytek's ability to market their own software and utilize their own software to the best of its abilities.
I agree about the marketing part but that doesn't mean that CryEngine3 is somehow inferior to UE4. What we see of UE4 as of now is only a tech demo and nothing else, and about using the engine to its full potential tell me any game on UE3 that looks better than Crysis 2 DX 11. We have seen the best of UE3 and it still doesn't come anywhere near of what CE3 is capabale of.
you saying they don't deliver?[QUOTE="soapandbubbles"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"]
PRTek.
seanmcloughlin
I would say yeah. They have this almighty engine yet the games on it are less than desireable. Crysis 2 was meh and so will Crysis 3
Wait...I thought you liked crysis 2! I remember your post on the screenshot thread. You said that you found crysis 2 to be a great game!Hey crytek,your pos engine hasn't produced a game with graphics half as good as those in mirror's edge.
So stop spouting BS.
Yeah everything rendered in realtime vs everything pre-baked. What a fair comparison.Hey crytek,your pos engine hasn't produced a game with graphics half as good as those in mirror's edge.
So stop spouting BS.
call_of_duty_10
After being extremely dissapointed with the all the tech videos and demo's of UE4 I can belive this...
Far Cry 1 released before Doom 3 and idTech4. Even the original Cryengine was doing the "What you see is what you play" stuff. That has kinda been Crytek's thing since their original tech demo.[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] Was just being pedantic :P, since you said UE4 just started to do stuff real time, and idTech4 was the first relatively modern engine to do all real time crap... Kinda funny that id went back to the baking everything as the focus in tech5.Inconsistancy
Pretty sure thems are baked shadow maps, not real time. Doom3 used no tricks, all the light/shadow was real time.
So was it far cry....
[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]Yeah everything rendered in realtime vs everything pre-baked. What a fair comparison. I am sure the latest build of UE3 can do the lighting in real time....Even mass effect 3 has real time shadows.Hey crytek,your pos engine hasn't produced a game with graphics half as good as those in mirror's edge.
So stop spouting BS.
zeeshanhaider
[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]Yeah everything rendered in realtime vs everything pre-baked. What a fair comparison. I am sure the latest build of UE3 can do the lighting in real time....Even mass effect 3 has real time shadows.Hey crytek,your pos engine hasn't produced a game with graphics half as good as those in mirror's edge.
So stop spouting BS.
call_of_duty_10
Mirrors edge had pre-baked and pre-caclulated global illumination, indirect lighting and other things backed into textures and you think that's fair?
Cryengine 2/3 does all that in REAL TIME....
I am sure the latest build of UE3 can do the lighting in real time....Even mass effect 3 has real time shadows.[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"] Yeah everything rendered in realtime vs everything pre-baked. What a fair comparison.mrfrosty151986
Mirrors edge had pre-baked and pre-caclulated global illumination, indirect lighting and other things backed into textures and you think that's fair?
Cryengine 2/3 does all that in REAL TIME....
Does it really matter what method was used to achieve the graphics? As someone on SW used to say..."Technology is only a tool.The end product,the result,is what really matters." Mirrors edge does not use very advanced techniques but it looks better than crapsis 2.[QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] I am sure the latest build of UE3 can do the lighting in real time....Even mass effect 3 has real time shadows.call_of_duty_10
Mirrors edge had pre-baked and pre-caclulated global illumination, indirect lighting and other things backed into textures and you think that's fair?
Cryengine 2/3 does all that in REAL TIME....
Does it really matter what method was used to achieve the graphics? As someone on SW used to say..."Technology is only a tool.The end product,the result,is what really matters." Mirrors edge does not use very advanced techniques but it looks better than crapsis 2. It does matter what technology is used otherwise how would you compare things objectively! Art direction is the subjective, what looks good to you may not look good to me.[QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] I am sure the latest build of UE3 can do the lighting in real time....Even mass effect 3 has real time shadows.call_of_duty_10
Mirrors edge had pre-baked and pre-caclulated global illumination, indirect lighting and other things backed into textures and you think that's fair?
Cryengine 2/3 does all that in REAL TIME....
Does it really matter what method was used to achieve the graphics? As someone on SW used to say..."Technology is only a tool.The end product,the result,is what really matters." Mirrors edge does not use very advanced techniques but it looks better than crapsis 2.You don't have a decnt PC do you...
You don't have to compare yourself to them. ;)shut up and make timesplitters you basement dwelling nerds
Pikachu69er
[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]Yeah everything rendered in realtime vs everything pre-baked. What a fair comparison. The lighting in Mirror's edge is real time.Hey crytek,your pos engine hasn't produced a game with graphics half as good as those in mirror's edge.
So stop spouting BS.
zeeshanhaider
Does it really matter what method was used to achieve the graphics? As someone on SW used to say..."Technology is only a tool.The end product,the result,is what really matters." Mirrors edge does not use very advanced techniques but it looks better than crapsis 2.[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"]
Mirrors edge had pre-baked and pre-caclulated global illumination, indirect lighting and other things backed into textures and you think that's fair?
Cryengine 2/3 does all that in REAL TIME....
mrfrosty151986
You don't have a decnt PC do you...
*sigh* I fail to see how this is related to the discussion. My PC can run games released in 2012 on high/max settings.So no,that's not true. I just think that its stupid how people praise cryengine 3 because it has advanced graphics crap,which does NOT make the graphics better at all! Gta 4 with icenhancer beats crysis 2.How exactly is all that crap in cryengine 3 useful when ENB destroys it?[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]Yeah everything rendered in realtime vs everything pre-baked. What a fair comparison. The lighting in Mirror's edge is real time.http://www.slideshare.net/DICEStudio/henrikgdc09-compatHey crytek,your pos engine hasn't produced a game with graphics half as good as those in mirror's edge.
So stop spouting BS.
parkurtommo
[QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] Does it really matter what method was used to achieve the graphics? As someone on SW used to say..."Technology is only a tool.The end product,the result,is what really matters." Mirrors edge does not use very advanced techniques but it looks better than crapsis 2. call_of_duty_10
You don't have a decnt PC do you...
*sigh* I fail to see how this is related to the discussion. My PC can run games released in 2012 on high/max settings.So no,that's not true. I just think that its stupid how people praise cryengine 3 because it has advanced graphics crap,which does NOT make the graphics better at all! Gta 4 with icenhancer beats crysis 2.How exactly is all that crap in cryengine 3 useful when ENB destroys it? ENB is a mod. Did you try any cryengine 3 mods or games made by the community?On the other hand you still haven't list a single UE game that is on par with Crysis 2 technically. UE will always play catch-up to the CE. Deal with it.
Crysis 3 looks gorgeous :|[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]
Crytek are hardly in the market for making impressive graphical benchmarks. Crysis 2 was not impressive in the least, and Crysis 3 is looking to be the same as well.
Nohtnym
It's hermits. They didnt like that crysis series became multiplatform, so they downplay crysis 2 and 3. I dont know about you but I remember these threads "Crysis 1 looks better than crysis 2 because of consoles".
Crysis 1 did look better than Crysis 2 pre HighRes/DX11 patch. Currently with mods, I'd say it's debatable.
[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"]*sigh* I fail to see how this is related to the discussion. My PC can run games released in 2012 on high/max settings.So no,that's not true. I just think that its stupid how people praise cryengine 3 because it has advanced graphics crap,which does NOT make the graphics better at all! Gta 4 with icenhancer beats crysis 2.How exactly is all that crap in cryengine 3 useful when ENB destroys it? ENB is a mod. Did you try any cryengine 3 mods or games made by the community? No. I uninstalled the game after completing a few levels.And I am not going to install it again. However,I have seen screenshots.tbh none of the mods are impressive as all of them have too much bloom and DOF. The texture mods were good,though.But its not like other engines cant handle high res textures.You don't have a decnt PC do you...
zeeshanhaider
*sigh* I fail to see how this is related to the discussion. My PC can run games released in 2012 on high/max settings.So no,that's not true. I just think that its stupid how people praise cryengine 3 because it has advanced graphics crap,which does NOT make the graphics better at all! Gta 4 with icenhancer beats crysis 2.How exactly is all that crap in cryengine 3 useful when ENB destroys it? ENB is a mod. Did you try any cryengine 3 mods or games made by the community?[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"]
You don't have a decnt PC do you...
zeeshanhaider
On the other hand you still haven't list a single UE game that is on par with Crysis 2 technically. UE will always play catch-up to the CE. Deal with it.
"Technically", nothing. But as far as aesthetics go, there are a lot of games that look a lot more appealing, like Mirror's Edge.*sigh* I fail to see how this is related to the discussion. My PC can run games released in 2012 on high/max settings.So no,that's not true. I just think that its stupid how people praise cryengine 3 because it has advanced graphics crap,which does NOT make the graphics better at all! Gta 4 with icenhancer beats crysis 2.How exactly is all that crap in cryengine 3 useful when ENB destroys it? ENB is a mod. Did you try any cryengine 3 mods or games made by the community?[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"]
You don't have a decnt PC do you...
zeeshanhaider
On the other hand you still haven't list a single UE game that is on par with Crysis 2 technically. UE will always play catch-up to the CE. Deal with it.
Yes,UE will play catch up on a technical level. Doesn't matter though.Cryengine(3) still hasnt produced a game that looks better than mirrors edge. When it does,I will gladly admit that CE3 is the best.But for now,I will stick to UE. And why do you say "Deal with it"?I dont own epic games.I dont care whether UE plays catch up or not.I care for good graphics.And CE3 hasn't made anything impressive so far.[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]ENB is a mod. Did you try any cryengine 3 mods or games made by the community?[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] *sigh* I fail to see how this is related to the discussion. My PC can run games released in 2012 on high/max settings.So no,that's not true. I just think that its stupid how people praise cryengine 3 because it has advanced graphics crap,which does NOT make the graphics better at all! Gta 4 with icenhancer beats crysis 2.How exactly is all that crap in cryengine 3 useful when ENB destroys it?parkurtommo
On the other hand you still haven't list a single UE game that is on par with Crysis 2 technically. UE will always play catch-up to the CE. Deal with it.
"Technically", nothing. But as far as aesthetics go, there are a lot of games that look a lot more appealing, like Mirror's Edge. Then we are on same page. CE3 can produce all the games UE can and better and with much ease. Moral of the story, CE > UE.[QUOTE="mrfrosty151986"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] Does it really matter what method was used to achieve the graphics? As someone on SW used to say..."Technology is only a tool.The end product,the result,is what really matters." Mirrors edge does not use very advanced techniques but it looks better than crapsis 2. call_of_duty_10
You don't have a decnt PC do you...
*sigh* I fail to see how this is related to the discussion. My PC can run games released in 2012 on high/max settings.So no,that's not true. I just think that its stupid how people praise cryengine 3 because it has advanced graphics crap,which does NOT make the graphics better at all! Gta 4 with icenhancer beats crysis 2.How exactly is all that crap in cryengine 3 useful when ENB destroys it?Comparing modded GTA to stock Crysis? You logic is amazing:|
[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]ENB is a mod. Did you try any cryengine 3 mods or games made by the community?[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] *sigh* I fail to see how this is related to the discussion. My PC can run games released in 2012 on high/max settings.So no,that's not true. I just think that its stupid how people praise cryengine 3 because it has advanced graphics crap,which does NOT make the graphics better at all! Gta 4 with icenhancer beats crysis 2.How exactly is all that crap in cryengine 3 useful when ENB destroys it?call_of_duty_10
On the other hand you still haven't list a single UE game that is on par with Crysis 2 technically. UE will always play catch-up to the CE. Deal with it.
Yes,UE will play catch up on a technical level. Doesn't matter though.Cryengine(3) still hasnt produced a game that looks better than mirrors edge. When it does,I will gladly admit that CE3 is the best.But for now,I will stick to UE. And why do you say "Deal with it"?I dont own epic games.I dont care whether UE plays catch up or not.I care for good graphics.And CE3 hasn't made anything impressive so far. Sorry If I sound arrogant to you, it was not my intention. Again, I stand corrected CE is better than UE, that was the point of this whole discussion. And about the game like mirror's edge, Look up Titanic level created with cryengine 3.[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"] ENB is a mod. Did you try any cryengine 3 mods or games made by the community?"Technically", nothing. But as far as aesthetics go, there are a lot of games that look a lot more appealing, like Mirror's Edge. Then we are on same page. CE3 can produce all the games UE can and better and with much ease. Moral of the story, CE > UE. Perhaps it can. HAS it?Nope. And thats all that matters. Until CE3 produces a game that looks better than mirror's edge,it will be inferior to UE in my eyes. If it does,I will consider it to be better than UE. All that theoretical power is useless unless the engine makes the best looking game.On the other hand you still haven't list a single UE game that is on par with Crysis 2 technically. UE will always play catch-up to the CE. Deal with it.
zeeshanhaider
[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"] "Technically", nothing. But as far as aesthetics go, there are a lot of games that look a lot more appealing, like Mirror's Edge.call_of_duty_10Then we are on same page. CE3 can produce all the games UE can and better and with much ease. Moral of the story, CE > UE. Perhaps it can. HAS it?Nope. And thats all that matters. Until CE3 produces a game that looks better than mirror's edge,it will be inferior to UE in my eyes. If it does,I will consider it to be better than UE. All that theoretical power is useless unless the engine makes the best looking game. BUT MIRROR'S EDGE IS BETTER BECAUSE OF THE ART STYLE Crysis is technically waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Mirror's Edge.
Perhaps it can. HAS it?Nope. And thats all that matters. Until CE3 produces a game that looks better than mirror's edge,it will be inferior to UE in my eyes. If it does,I will consider it to be better than UE. All that theoretical power is useless unless the engine makes the best looking game. BUT MIRROR'S EDGE IS BETTER BECAUSE OF THE ART STYLE Crysis is technically waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than Mirror's Edge. They both have the same artstyle....realism. As I said,"Technology is only a tool.The end product,the result,is what matters". How does C2's technical superiority matter when it looks worse than Mirror's edge? ... Btw,I really must go now.I wish we could continue this argument,but I cant stay. Good bye.[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"] Then we are on same page. CE3 can produce all the games UE can and better and with much ease. Moral of the story, CE > UE.parkurtommo
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