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#1 SargentD
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To some it up.

Design: Xbox (compact PC like design vs massive long boy design that does not perform as well)

UI: Xbox (quick resume vs hints)

Value: Xbox (gamepass vs $70 per game)

Next Gen Only game lineup: Xbox (Xbox has 9 games planned that are next gen only, Sony says horizon, gow, grand turismo will also be for ps4)

Controller: PlayStation (haptic vs more comfortable)

He suggests if you only can choose between the 2 go series X, enjoy the fruits of game pass, get PlayStation half way into the gen, when all the $70 exclusive games are $20 and binge.

Rational thought out comparison imo. Guy is clearly a fan of PlayStation.

I don't own either yet but leaning towards the series X.

I get that many would tell me not too because i already game on PC, but PlayStation 3rd person exclusives don't interest me much. Id rather go with the series X just for the cross progression with my PC. Not to mention the full BC to og xbox, yeah I like old games too)

Throw in also PS5's expandable storage looking like a complete after thought...

Id say MS is off to a good start.

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Ps5 expendable storage is a better solution then series x. It's already cheaper that xsx memory card and it will only get cheaper.

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#3  Edited By hardwenzen
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I do agree on the fact that we know absolutely fuckall what's coming to our PS5. GoW2 will be massive and i can't wait. Horizon2 is a no thanks on my end, but people enjoy it so whatever. That's two games. Are two games the future of the PS5? I want to at least know what to expect for my console.

btw this guy called Returnal "kinda boring". I reported him on youtube.

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@hardwenzen said:

I do agree on the fact that we know absolutely fuckall what's coming to our PS5. GoW2 will be massive and i can't wait. Horizon2 is a no thanks on my end, but people enjoy it so whatever. That's two games. Are two games the future of the PS5? I want to at least know what to expect for my console.

btw this guy called Returnal "kinda boring". I reported him on youtube.

I have a ps4 and apparently gow2 is coming out on that. Agree with Horizon i did not like it either.

I haven't played returnable, watched some one play it, looks like a niche game, its about the challenge, rouge-like, and not letting you save the game is going to turn off people. But that kind of game is just not for everyone. You need to be into rouge likes, they aren't for everyone. Cool you like Returnal though, Do you think its worth $70?

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#5 Telekill
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Sony has been so tight lipped that aside from H2, GoW2, and GT7, Sony has shown nothing more on their PS5 road map game-wise. Those games will be fun but MS actually has a proper road map lineup for XSeX. PS5 owners only have those three games and rumors; the new vaporware.

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#6 Pedro  Online
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If you prefer the PS5 over the Series, get a PS5.

If you prefer the Series over the PS5, get a Series.

These threads NEVER changes anyone's mind and is just fanboy fodder.

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#7  Edited By SargentD
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@Telekill said:

Sony has been so tight lipped that aside from H2, GoW2, and GT7, Sony has shown nothing more on their PS5 road map game-wise. Those games will be fun but MS actually has a proper road map lineup for XSeX. PS5 owners only have those three games and rumors; the new vaporware.

and all 3 come out on PS4,

which I have already, why upgrade to ps5?

They making this to easy for me.

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#8 VFighter
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Wow, totally changed my mind here, I've always enjoyed what Sony offered with the ps consoles, but this trollish thread just 100% changed my way of thinking and I won't be getting a PS5.

Ok, I won't be getting a PS5 because I can't easily find one, junk threads like this are just that, junk threads.

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MS did a good job with this gen xbox. i would get myself one too if i didnt invest so much on my pc.

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#10  Edited By hardwenzen
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@sargentd said:
@hardwenzen said:

I do agree on the fact that we know absolutely fuckall what's coming to our PS5. GoW2 will be massive and i can't wait. Horizon2 is a no thanks on my end, but people enjoy it so whatever. That's two games. Are two games the future of the PS5? I want to at least know what to expect for my console.

btw this guy called Returnal "kinda boring". I reported him on youtube.

I have a ps4 and apparently gow2 is coming out on that. Agree with Horizon i did not like it either.

I haven't played returnable, watched some one play it, looks like a niche game, its about the challenge, rouge-like, and not letting you save the game is going to turn off people. But that kind of game is just not for everyone. You need to be into rouge likes, they aren't for everyone. Cool you like Returnal though, Do you think its worth $70?

Of course Returnal is not for everyone. That's why it didn't do well. Prior to Returnal, i don't think i have ever beaten a single roguelike game, but if we see more of them that are as well done as Returnal, i'll play them all.

$70USD is $105CAD. The only games that will be worth this much are the linkes of GoW2. A game that isn't only guaranteed to be good, but also one that offers a lot of side content to be enjoyed. If Returnal was three times longer, it would absolutely be worth $70, but as is, there is simply not enough meat on the bone.

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But does it "feeeeel' next gen?

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@hardwenzen said:
@sargentd said:
@hardwenzen said:

I do agree on the fact that we know absolutely fuckall what's coming to our PS5. GoW2 will be massive and i can't wait. Horizon2 is a no thanks on my end, but people enjoy it so whatever. That's two games. Are two games the future of the PS5? I want to at least know what to expect for my console.

btw this guy called Returnal "kinda boring". I reported him on youtube.

I have a ps4 and apparently gow2 is coming out on that. Agree with Horizon i did not like it either.

I haven't played returnable, watched some one play it, looks like a niche game, its about the challenge, rouge-like, and not letting you save the game is going to turn off people. But that kind of game is just not for everyone. You need to be into rouge likes, they aren't for everyone. Cool you like Returnal though, Do you think its worth $70?

Of course Returnal is not for everyone. That's why it didn't do well. Prior to Returnal, i don't think i have ever beaten a single roguelike game, but if we see more of them that are as well done as Returnal, i'll play them all.

$70USD is $105CAD. The only games that will be worth this much are the linkes of GoW2. A game that isn't only guaranteed to be good, but also one that offers a lot of side content to be enjoyed. If Returnal was three times longer, it would absolutely be worth $70, but as is, there is simply not enough meat on the bone.

Have you played Hades yet? if not I think you should try it you would probably like it

also Binding of Isaac if you haven't played that one yet, not as good graphics as , but fun as hell i put 100's of hours into Issac

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#13 Telekill
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@sargentd: Correct. There's zero reason to upgrade to PS5 right now unless you want DS, Ret. or R&C.

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#14 hardwenzen
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@sargentd said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sargentd said:
@hardwenzen said:

I do agree on the fact that we know absolutely fuckall what's coming to our PS5. GoW2 will be massive and i can't wait. Horizon2 is a no thanks on my end, but people enjoy it so whatever. That's two games. Are two games the future of the PS5? I want to at least know what to expect for my console.

btw this guy called Returnal "kinda boring". I reported him on youtube.

I have a ps4 and apparently gow2 is coming out on that. Agree with Horizon i did not like it either.

I haven't played returnable, watched some one play it, looks like a niche game, its about the challenge, rouge-like, and not letting you save the game is going to turn off people. But that kind of game is just not for everyone. You need to be into rouge likes, they aren't for everyone. Cool you like Returnal though, Do you think its worth $70?

Of course Returnal is not for everyone. That's why it didn't do well. Prior to Returnal, i don't think i have ever beaten a single roguelike game, but if we see more of them that are as well done as Returnal, i'll play them all.

$70USD is $105CAD. The only games that will be worth this much are the linkes of GoW2. A game that isn't only guaranteed to be good, but also one that offers a lot of side content to be enjoyed. If Returnal was three times longer, it would absolutely be worth $70, but as is, there is simply not enough meat on the bone.

Have you played Hades yet? if not I think you should try it you would probably like it

also Binding of Isaac if you haven't played that one yet, not as good graphics as , but fun as hell i put 100's of hours into Issac

I am getting Hades as soon as i am 100% done with Returnal. Not interested in Binding of Isaac, tho.

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PS5 is outselling XSX 2:1 worldwide. Your shilling isn't helping Microsoft sell consoles, TC.

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@hardwenzen: man I'm telling you, don't sleep on Isaac. I like Hades alot but not as much as Issac with the Rebirth DLC. Imo it's the gold standard for that genre. So many powers. Don't let it's simple aesthetic stop you from trying it.

Definitely try Hades too tho it's great.

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#17  Edited By Zaryia
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@hardwenzen said:

I do agree on the fact that we know absolutely fuckall what's coming to our PS5. GoW2 will be massive and i can't wait. Horizon2 is a no thanks on my end, but people enjoy it so whatever. That's two games. Are two games the future of the PS5? I want to at least know what to expect for my console.

btw this guy called Returnal "kinda boring". I reported him on youtube.

Why did you run from the avatar bet?

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#18 hardwenzen
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@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:

I do agree on the fact that we know absolutely fuckall what's coming to our PS5. GoW2 will be massive and i can't wait. Horizon2 is a no thanks on my end, but people enjoy it so whatever. That's two games. Are two games the future of the PS5? I want to at least know what to expect for my console.

btw this guy called Returnal "kinda boring". I reported him on youtube.

Why did you run from the avatar bet?

What avatar bet?

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@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:

I do agree on the fact that we know absolutely fuckall what's coming to our PS5. GoW2 will be massive and i can't wait. Horizon2 is a no thanks on my end, but people enjoy it so whatever. That's two games. Are two games the future of the PS5? I want to at least know what to expect for my console.

btw this guy called Returnal "kinda boring". I reported him on youtube.

Why did you run from the avatar bet?

What avatar bet?

Why play dumb?

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#20 hardwenzen
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@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:

I do agree on the fact that we know absolutely fuckall what's coming to our PS5. GoW2 will be massive and i can't wait. Horizon2 is a no thanks on my end, but people enjoy it so whatever. That's two games. Are two games the future of the PS5? I want to at least know what to expect for my console.

btw this guy called Returnal "kinda boring". I reported him on youtube.

Why did you run from the avatar bet?

What avatar bet?

Why play dumb?

The last thing i learned from you is that you're a mobile gamer. I have no idea wtf this avatar thing you're talking about.

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#21  Edited By Zaryia
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@hardwenzen said:

The last thing i learned from you is that you're a mobile gamer.

You replied to these posts in seconds but magically missed me asking you on a bet for making those false claims? Sure.

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#22 hardwenzen
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@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:

The last thing i learned from you is that you're a mobile gamer.

You replied to these posts in seconds but magically missed me asking you on a bet for making those false claims? Sure.

After i learned you're a mobile gamer, i ignored your messages. And what makes you think that i won't respond to some bet proposals? What i'll say is that when you bet with someone, you expect something in return. You have nothing on offer, so go bet with a monkey. Nobody wants your 2016 Biden account.

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#23 deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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I preferred PS4 over Xbox One last gen. This gen I prefer Series X over PS5. My my how things can change in just a generation.

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#24 hardwenzen
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@shadyacshuns said:

I preferred PS4 over Xbox One last gen. This gen I prefer Series X over PS5. My my how things can change in just a generation.

Like seven god damn years isn't a lot of time.

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#25 Zaryia
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@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:

The last thing i learned from you is that you're a mobile gamer.

You replied to these posts in seconds but magically missed me asking you on a bet for making those false claims? Sure.

you're a mobile gamer

Avatar bet?

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#26 hardwenzen
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@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:

The last thing i learned from you is that you're a mobile gamer.

You replied to these posts in seconds but magically missed me asking you on a bet for making those false claims? Sure.

you're a mobile gamer

Avatar bet?

What do i get if i win? Your avatar is worth less than Casey's. What else do you have outside of a Raid Shadow Legends account with 1.1k hours in it?

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#27  Edited By deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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@hardwenzen said:
@shadyacshuns said:

I preferred PS4 over Xbox One last gen. This gen I prefer Series X over PS5. My my how things can change in just a generation.

Like seven god damn years isn't a lot of time.

Some of these System Warriors are still arguing things from old gens as if they're relevant today, so...

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#28  Edited By Zaryia
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@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:

You replied to these posts in seconds but magically missed me asking you on a bet for making those false claims? Sure.

you're a mobile gamer

Avatar bet?

What do i get if i win? Your avatar is worth less than Casey's.

You don't know what an Avatar bet is, understandable for an unintelligent Cow.

If I win you have to pick the avatar I choose for you. If you win he opposite happens, you choose one for me. It can be anything.

You're not agreeing to it because you know I'm not a mobile gamer and the far right anti-vacc lunatic Vfighter spammed fake nonsense.

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#29 hardwenzen
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@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:

You replied to these posts in seconds but magically missed me asking you on a bet for making those false claims? Sure.

you're a mobile gamer

Avatar bet?

What do i get if i win? Your avatar is worth less than Casey's.

You don't know what an Avatar bet is, understandable for an unintelligent Cow.

If I win you have to pick the avatar I choose for you. If you win he opposite happens, you choose one for me. It can be anything.

You're not agreeing to it because you know I'm not a mobile gamer and the far right anti-vacc lunatic Vfighter spammed fake nonsense.

No shit i have no idea what this is. Nerdy as crap i never heard of off. You always sounded like you're into RAID SHADOW LEGENDS tbh.

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#30 Zaryia
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@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:

You always sounded like you're into RAID SHADOW LEGENDS tbh.

Never played it. Most I have played of mobile games are 10 minutes.

Glad you chickened out of this bet, you would have gotten rocked.

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#31 grandporcupine
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PS5 is still better than series X, imho. Just that, their new release was indeed a failure, I'm pretty sure you all will be glad to get the PS5 pro if ever they release one soon.

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#32 hardwenzen
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@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:

You always sounded like you're into RAID SHADOW LEGENDS tbh.

Never played it. Most I have played of mobile games are 10 minutes.

Glad you chickened out of this bet, you would have gotten rocked.

Okay Raid Shadow Legends pro🤭

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#33  Edited By Zaryia
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@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:

You always sounded like you're into RAID SHADOW LEGENDS tbh.

Never played it. Most I have played of mobile games are 10 minutes.

Glad you chickened out of this bet, you would have gotten rocked.

Okay Raid Shadow Legends pro🤭

If you're so confident why not agree to the bet? Oh, because you know you're lying.

How about we just have a bet about the gaming chair I mentioned?

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#34 hardwenzen
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@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:

You always sounded like you're into RAID SHADOW LEGENDS tbh.

Never played it. Most I have played of mobile games are 10 minutes.

Glad you chickened out of this bet, you would have gotten rocked.

Okay Raid Shadow Legends pro🤭

If you're so confident why not agree to the bet? Oh, because you know you're lying.

How about we just have a bet about the gaming chair I mentioned?

I don't want to bet with smelly mobile gamers. I wonder how many more "pc gamers" are nothing else but mobile gamers like you.

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#35 VFighter
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@hardwenzen: You know he's a hardcore mobile gamer because of how embarrassed he is at being caught 😂

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#36 simple-facts
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Ps5 got wrecked

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#37  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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Xbox Series had a slow start, but it was worth it for them now to get that solid future. The drought is pretty much over for Xbox and content is starting to flow better. They have a lot of studios that can leap frog with releases continually.

PS5 is kinda N64ing right now. A few big hits, drought, a few big hits, drought, rinse and repeat...

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#38  Edited By PAL360
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Both are awesome hardware and first parties wise. Both will have exclusives i would hate to miss. I think this will be a very balanced generation, which is awesome for this industry.

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#39 SolidGame_basic
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@vfighter said:

Wow, totally changed my mind here, I've always enjoyed what Sony offered with the ps consoles, but this trollish thread just 100% changed my way of thinking and I won't be getting a PS5.

Ok, I won't be getting a PS5 because I can't easily find one, junk threads like this are just that, junk threads.

Ye, the obsession with Sony's success is really getting to Lem's heads.

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#40 MysticalDonut
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At the end of the day it's all about the games.

I couldn't play Ratchet and Clank, Returnal or Demon's Souls on my PS4.

I can play Forza Horizon 5 and Halo Infinite on my Xbox One S this fall.

To me, there is no current value to spending $500 on an Xbox Series X.

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#41 Zaryia
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@vfighter said:

he's a hardcore mobile gamer

Avater bet?

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#42 hardwenzen
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@zaryia said:
@vfighter said:

he's a hardcore mobile gamer

Avater bet?

What with this avatar bet you're asking everyone? Nobody wants to bet with a mobile gamer.

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#43  Edited By Zaryia
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@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:
@vfighter said:

he's a hardcore mobile gamer

Avater bet?

What with this avatar bet you're asking everyone? Nobody wants to bet with a mobile gamer.

I only do that when someone randomly makes a personal claim against me when we were discussing pieces of plastic and silicone.

I understand that not accepting means you both knew you were making up bullshit.

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#44 VFighter
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@zaryia: If mobile gaming makes you this strange and rage filled, why not pursue some real gaming and see how that works out for you?

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#45 DaVillain  Moderator
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@HalcyonScarlet said:

Xbox Series had a slow start, but it was worth it for them now to get that solid future. The drought is pretty much over for Xbox and content is starting to flow better. They have a lot of studios that can leap frog with releases continually.

PS5 is kinda N64ing right now. A few big hits, drought, a few big hits, drought, rinse and repeat...

Can't compare N64 to PS5. N64 was an awesome console, it had staller good games for it's time until PSX arrived and that all change from their. PS5 is hardly a drought if you only care about PS5 exclusives, plenty of other games on the 3rd-party side and Indie games to boot.

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@hardwenzen said:

I do agree on the fact that we know absolutely fuckall what's coming to our PS5. GoW2 will be massive and i can't wait. Horizon2 is a no thanks on my end, but people enjoy it so whatever. That's two games. Are two games the future of the PS5? I want to at least know what to expect for my console.

btw this guy called Returnal "kinda boring". I reported him on youtube.

I have a ps4 and apparently gow2 is coming out on that. Agree with Horizon i did not like it either.

I haven't played returnable, watched some one play it, looks like a niche game, its about the challenge, rouge-like, and not letting you save the game is going to turn off people. But that kind of game is just not for everyone. You need to be into rouge likes, they aren't for everyone. Cool you like Returnal though, Do you think its worth $70?

Same for me with my PS4 and I don't see myself upgrading to PS5 anytime soon. Do I want a PS5 like right now? Of course I do but I'm in no rush to get it...just yet.

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#46  Edited By shellcase86
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Own both. I actually prefer the physical design and UI of the PS5 over the Series X. Gamepass is a beast and absolute amazing value, no dispute there. The only issue w/ that is it's a cost of $15 or $10/month in perpetuity if you didn't score early on with the GP deals.

That stated, Sony ought to open up about upcoming titles and developments w/ their services. I say ought, because they don't need to -- they have their base and most interested consumers on lock due to the strength of the brand alone.

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#47 Zaryia
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@vfighter said:

@zaryia: If mobile gaming makes you this strange and rage filled, why not pursue some real gaming and see how that works out for you?

Yawn, shitty troll.

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For me Playstation has always been the system you purchase near the end of its life and enjoy the single player games when you can get them super cheap.

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@davillain- said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

Xbox Series had a slow start, but it was worth it for them now to get that solid future. The drought is pretty much over for Xbox and content is starting to flow better. They have a lot of studios that can leap frog with releases continually.

PS5 is kinda N64ing right now. A few big hits, drought, a few big hits, drought, rinse and repeat...

Can't compare N64 to PS5. N64 was an awesome console, it had staller good games for it's time until PSX arrived and that all change from their. PS5 is hardly a drought if you only care about PS5 exclusives, plenty of other games on the 3rd-party side and Indie games to boot.

I was only remarking from the perspective of 1st party.

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#50  Edited By VFighter
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@davillain-: The N64 had a few really good games, a lot of crap, and overall only like 230 games (or something like that). It wasn't that great of a console overall. It also came out after the PS1.