Could this be the Wii's downfall?

hahahaha no big game titles hahahaha. mario, zelda, metriod, starfox, smash brothers ect ect ect.  hahaha lets not forget pokemon.  hell pokemon still sales more games than nintendo sales consoles.... hahaha no big game titles hahahahahaha thats a good one hahaha nintendo porbably the biggest 1st party "game publisher and game making company" hahaha no big titlesfrankeyser

You have hahahahahahahahahaha used after every two words.

[QUOTE="Wolfgang66"]Wii is its own downfall.lild1425

Care to explain?

Let me explain wolfgang's argument in a simple phrase: I`m a big fanboy

[QUOTE="frankeyser"]hahahaha no big game titles hahahaha. mario, zelda, metriod, starfox, smash brothers ect ect ect.  hahaha lets not forget pokemon.  hell pokemon still sales more games than nintendo sales consoles.... hahaha no big game titles hahahahahaha thats a good one hahaha nintendo porbably the biggest 1st party "game publisher and game making company" hahaha no big titleslild1425

You have hahahahahahahahahaha used after every two words.

apparently you can not count as even the first string of words count is four....  so hahahaha at your inability to count hahahaha

In my opinion, last gen the GC sold poorly due to several factors: the design of the console, the poor 3rd support (it didn't get GTA etc), and it didn't exactly accelerate the industry with the machine itself (no revolution). This gen Nintendo have corrected some of those problems and added even more than what the GC didn't have. They have online, decent 3rd party support, they're brought in a "revolution" if you will, and the design of the console is great.

But I think they've still got the same problem as the GC (which is a major reason it lost): No big-name thirdparty titles.

It doesn't have all those really anticipated games that are coming to 360/PS3 like GTAIV, RE5, GRAW 2, Rainbow Six, Oblivion, Burnout, SSX4 etc.

Do you think this will be the reason the console fails to come on top in sales? Or is this a minor flaw that is countered by Wii's innovative games like Wiisports etc.?

the-very-best

How come a lot of people here don't have a clue of what's really going on in the industry? How come many people here can't think of games outside of stuff like Madden, Halo, GTA, FF, etc? Sure Nintendo won't be getting many big 360/PS3 titles, but they will be getting other titles that will more than make up for the loss, especially some of their NEW first-party titles.

What ultimately put Nintendo DS over the top? Why is the Wii doing so well?

Nintendo is trying to create something new besides their well known first party games such as Mario, Zelda, etc. In the near future, it's gonna be those NEW innovative games that will put Nintendo over the top just like what happened to DS.

I can make a very good case as to why Wii Sports is the game that has the biggest impact out of all games released so far by 360, PS3 or Wii. If you count the bundled in Wii Sports as games sold, then Wii Sports is the best selling next-gen game so far.

After Nintendo released some of their innovative Wii first party games and after 3rd party devs finally figure out how to make proper Wii games, it's gonna be all over for MS and Sony this gen. The fact is, the way PS3 and XBox 360 are shaping up to be, they don't have the kind of mass appeal that the Wii potentially has, 360/PS3 cater to a smaller audience.

wiialltheway

No, becuase anyone who wants to play those big games on the Wii is pretty dumb or a fanboy looking for trouble anyway. The Wii was made for games that are completely different from anything else on the market. What the Wii needs is not the big multiplat games, but really great IP's that are completely innovative and never seen before. Unfortunately, most 3rd parties can't think outside of the box so that could be a problem.glitchgeeman

No big-name titles.

It doesn't have all those really anticipated games that are coming to 360/PS3 like GTAIV, RE5, GRAW 2, Rainbow Six, Oblivion, Burnout, SSX4 etc. the-very-best

hahahaha no big game titles hahahaha. mario, zelda, metriod, starfox, smash brothers ect ect ect. hahaha lets not forget pokemon. hell pokemon still sales more games than nintendo sales consoles.... hahaha no big game titles hahahahahaha thats a good one hahaha nintendo porbably the biggest 1st party "game publisher and game making company" hahaha no big titlesfrankeyser

[QUOTE="rat_pac"][QUOTE="curono"]

[QUOTE="Wolfgang66"]Wii is its own downfall.cydcan

Tell that to the 2 million (or more ) consoles sold in about 3 months...

Giving you the benefit of doubt, imagining your angry fanboy claim is true, At least it sold 2thousand happy clients.

PS3 sold like  less than a million PS3's and there are nearly a million complains about ps3...

[QUOTE="wiialltheway"]

How come a lot of people here don't have a clue of what's really going on in the industry? How come many people here can't think of games outside of stuff like Madden, Halo, GTA, FF, etc? Sure Nintendo won't be getting many big 360/PS3 titles, but they will be getting other titles that will more than make up for the loss, especially some of their NEW first-party titles.

What ultimately put Nintendo DS over the top? Why is the Wii doing so well?

Nintendo is trying to create something new besides their well known first party games such as Mario, Zelda, etc. In the near future, it's gonna be those NEW innovative games that will put Nintendo over the top just like what happened to DS.

I can make a very good case as to why Wii Sports is the game that has the biggest impact out of all games released so far by 360, PS3 or Wii. If you count the bundled in Wii Sports as games sold, then Wii Sports is the best selling next-gen game so far.

After Nintendo released some of their innovative Wii first party games and after 3rd party devs finally figure out how to make proper Wii games, it's gonna be all over for MS and Sony this gen. The fact is, the way PS3 and XBox 360 are shaping up to be, they don't have the kind of mass appeal that the Wii potentially has, 360/PS3 cater to a smaller audience.

the-very-best

[QUOTE="cydcan"][QUOTE="rat_pac"][QUOTE="curono"]

[QUOTE="Wolfgang66"]Wii is its own downfall.curono

Tell that to the 2 million (or more ) consoles sold in about 3 months...

Giving you the benefit of doubt, imagining your angry fanboy claim is true, At least it sold 2thousand happy clients.

PS3 sold like less than a million PS3's and there are nearly a million complains about ps3...

[QUOTE="wiialltheway"]

How come a lot of people here don't have a clue of what's really going on in the industry? How come many people here can't think of games outside of stuff like Madden, Halo, GTA, FF, etc? Sure Nintendo won't be getting many big 360/PS3 titles, but they will be getting other titles that will more than make up for the loss, especially some of their NEW first-party titles.

What ultimately put Nintendo DS over the top? Why is the Wii doing so well?

Nintendo is trying to create something new besides their well known first party games such as Mario, Zelda, etc. In the near future, it's gonna be those NEW innovative games that will put Nintendo over the top just like what happened to DS.

I can make a very good case as to why Wii Sports is the game that has the biggest impact out of all games released so far by 360, PS3 or Wii. If you count the bundled in Wii Sports as games sold, then Wii Sports is the best selling next-gen game so far.

After Nintendo released some of their innovative Wii first party games and after 3rd party devs finally figure out how to make proper Wii games, it's gonna be all over for MS and Sony this gen. The fact is, the way PS3 and XBox 360 are shaping up to be, they don't have the kind of mass appeal that the Wii potentially has, 360/PS3 cater to a smaller audience.

the-very-best

Again, I said "the way PS3 and XBox 360 are shaping up to be, they don't have the kind of mass appeal that the Wii potentially has, 360/PS3 cater to a smaller audience".

Doesn't have anything to do with PS1 or PS2, because clearly, PS3 is something very different from those two, Sony's concept with PS3 is very different from PS1&2.

MS and Sony are working on what's already existed, the exact fanbase, perhaps things are getting too technical and too hardcore for the market to expand.

PS3 is becoming very casual-unfriendly, which is exact the opposite of PS2, just remember that.

ok

[QUOTE="curono"][QUOTE="cydcan"][QUOTE="rat_pac"][QUOTE="curono"]

[QUOTE="Wolfgang66"]Wii is its own downfall.fedameda

Tell that to the 2 million (or more ) consoles sold in about 3 months...

Giving you the benefit of doubt, imagining your angry fanboy claim is true, At least it sold 2thousand happy clients.

PS3 sold like less than a million PS3's and there are nearly a million complains about ps3...

You are on serious denial.... Come on, just accept that at THIS VERY MOMENT it is more possible PS3`s fall than Wii's one.  Damn, please just admit it. I could go on with reasons, but I`m not in the mood, don`t make me own you. Just back away

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="wiialltheway"]

How come a lot of people here don't have a clue of what's really going on in the industry? How come many people here can't think of games outside of stuff like Madden, Halo, GTA, FF, etc? Sure Nintendo won't be getting many big 360/PS3 titles, but they will be getting other titles that will more than make up for the loss, especially some of their NEW first-party titles.

What ultimately put Nintendo DS over the top? Why is the Wii doing so well?

Nintendo is trying to create something new besides their well known first party games such as Mario, Zelda, etc. In the near future, it's gonna be those NEW innovative games that will put Nintendo over the top just like what happened to DS.

I can make a very good case as to why Wii Sports is the game that has the biggest impact out of all games released so far by 360, PS3 or Wii. If you count the bundled in Wii Sports as games sold, then Wii Sports is the best selling next-gen game so far.

After Nintendo released some of their innovative Wii first party games and after 3rd party devs finally figure out how to make proper Wii games, it's gonna be all over for MS and Sony this gen. The fact is, the way PS3 and XBox 360 are shaping up to be, they don't have the kind of mass appeal that the Wii potentially has, 360/PS3 cater to a smaller audience.

wiialltheway

Again, I said "the way PS3 and XBox 360 are shaping up to be, they don't have the kind of mass appeal that the Wii potentially has, 360/PS3 cater to a smaller audience".

Doesn't have anything to do with PS1 or PS2, because clearly, PS3 is something very different from those two, Sony's concept with PS3 is very different from PS1&2.

MS and Sony are working on what's already existed, the exact fanbase, perhaps things are getting too technical and too hardcore for the market to expand.

PS3 is becoming very casual-unfriendly, which is exact the opposite of PS2, just remember that.

ok

[QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="curono"][QUOTE="cydcan"][QUOTE="rat_pac"][QUOTE="curono"]

[QUOTE="Wolfgang66"]Wii is its own downfall.curono

Tell that to the 2 million (or more ) consoles sold in about 3 months...

Giving you the benefit of doubt, imagining your angry fanboy claim is true, At least it sold 2thousand happy clients.

PS3 sold like less than a million PS3's and there are nearly a million complains about ps3...

You are on serious denial.... Come on, just accept that at THIS VERY MOMENT it is more possible PS3`s fall than Wii's one. Damn, please just admit it. I could go on with reasons, but I`m not in the mood, don`t make me own you. Just back away

[QUOTE="wiialltheway"]

How come a lot of people here don't have a clue of what's really going on in the industry? How come many people here can't think of games outside of stuff like Madden, Halo, GTA, FF, etc? Sure Nintendo won't be getting many big 360/PS3 titles, but they will be getting other titles that will more than make up for the loss, especially some of their NEW first-party titles.

What ultimately put Nintendo DS over the top? Why is the Wii doing so well?

Nintendo is trying to create something new besides their well known first party games such as Mario, Zelda, etc. In the near future, it's gonna be those NEW innovative games that will put Nintendo over the top just like what happened to DS.

I can make a very good case as to why Wii Sports is the game that has the biggest impact out of all games released so far by 360, PS3 or Wii. If you count the bundled in Wii Sports as games sold, then Wii Sports is the best selling next-gen game so far.

After Nintendo released some of their innovative Wii first party games and after 3rd party devs finally figure out how to make proper Wii games, it's gonna be all over for MS and Sony this gen. The fact is, the way PS3 and XBox 360 are shaping up to be, they don't have the kind of mass appeal that the Wii potentially has, 360/PS3 cater to a smaller audience.

the-very-best

[QUOTE="curono"]

ok

[QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="curono"][QUOTE="cydcan"][QUOTE="rat_pac"][QUOTE="curono"]

[QUOTE="Wolfgang66"]Wii is its own downfall.fedameda

Tell that to the 2 million (or more ) consoles sold in about 3 months...

Giving you the benefit of doubt, imagining your angry fanboy claim is true, At least it sold 2thousand happy clients.

PS3 sold like less than a million PS3's and there are nearly a million complains about ps3...

You are on serious denial.... Come on, just accept that at THIS VERY MOMENT it is more possible PS3`s fall than Wii's one. Damn, please just admit it. I could go on with reasons, but I`m not in the mood, don`t make me own you. Just back away

You keep mentioning how wii doesn't have GTA, and GTA is a huge series. So...? The 360 doesn't have Zelda, which is a huge series, but that doesn't mean the 360 will fail...the_leet_kid

[QUOTE="Kenshi_is_god"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="curono"]

ok

[QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="curono"][QUOTE="cydcan"][QUOTE="rat_pac"][QUOTE="curono"]

[QUOTE="Wolfgang66"]Wii is its own downfall.fedameda

Tell that to the 2 million (or more ) consoles sold in about 3 months...

Giving you the benefit of doubt, imagining your angry fanboy claim is true, At least it sold 2thousand happy clients.

PS3 sold like less than a million PS3's and there are nearly a million complains about ps3...

You are on serious denial.... Come on, just accept that at THIS VERY MOMENT it is more possible PS3`s fall than Wii's one. Damn, please just admit it. I could go on with reasons, but I`m not in the mood, don`t make me own you. Just back away

[QUOTE="the_leet_kid"]You keep mentioning how wii doesn't have GTA, and GTA is a huge series. So...? The 360 doesn't have Zelda, which is a huge series, but that doesn't mean the 360 will fail...the-very-best

[QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Kenshi_is_god"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="curono"]

ok

[QUOTE="fedameda"]

That fact that nintendo still has kinks in 6 year old hardware surprised me
Kenshi_is_god

The really big sellers for Wii will be strange titles that come out of nowhere. (like Brainage and Nintendogs for the DS)

Stuff like Wii Health, Big Brain Academy Wii and Wii Music.
cakeorrdeath

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="the_leet_kid"]You keep mentioning how wii doesn't have GTA, and GTA is a huge series. So...? The 360 doesn't have Zelda, which is a huge series, but that doesn't mean the 360 will fail...cakeorrdeath

I agree, and the first one starts with Wii Sports. We might even have a case with Wii Play as the second one. I know a lot of fanboys here don't like Wii Sports a bit, but that's beyond the point. Point is, these weird funny titles from no where play a big part of Nintendo Wii's success. We just won't see anything similar on any other console.

Do you think these titles will have a huge impact like they did on the Nintendo DS? I think they did so well for the DS because people buy handhelds for just some quick entertainment (Good on Nintendo for finally realizing that). I think people still buy consoles for some lengthy entertainment, since games like GTA/MGS/Halo etc aren't exactly short games.

I do agree though that the titles you mentioned could be hits, but will they be as big as the sure-fire hits like GTA/MGS/Halo etc on PS3/360? That's the real question I suppose.


the-very-best

[QUOTE="Kenshi_is_god"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Kenshi_is_god"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="curono"]

ok

[QUOTE="fedameda"]

That fact that nintendo still has kinks in 6 year old hardware surprised me
fedameda

I think many people are buying the Wii for quick entertainment as well. The Wii isn't the same as consoles in the past.

I really do think that some new and strange IP will be Nintendo's biggest seller this year. Beating out GTA and Halo is a whole other story though.
cakeorrdeath

I agree with the point in bold completely. Nintendo did the right thing by riding off the success of the DS.

That's the major reason I see Wii being much more successful than the Gamecube. I don't think the "innovative" games Wii offers will be any match for the big name titles like GTA etc, which is why I think that will be Wii's downfall, so to speak.
the-very-best

What do you mean by downfall?
cakeorrdeath

[QUOTE="Kenshi_is_god"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Kenshi_is_god"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="curono"]

ok

[QUOTE="fedameda"]

That fact that nintendo still has kinks in 6 year old hardware surprised me
fedameda

Still, some 6 year old technologies can be  extremely profitable if new tricks are added. Let me refer to history.

DK country. When it came out, PS came out. Just that game extended SNES's life for some time longer, and it was just ONE GAME. The same happened with Perfect Dark. It gave N64 more time of life, when it was already dead (zombie console :lol:)
Imagine what a greater trick can do built in a console

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

I think many people are buying the Wii for quick entertainment as well. The Wii isn't the same as consoles in the past.

I really do think that some new and strange IP will be Nintendo's biggest seller this year. Beating out GTA and Halo is a whole other story though.
the-very-best

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

What do you mean by downfall?
the-very-best

In my opinion, last gen the GC sold poorly due to several factors: the design of the console, the poor 3rd support (it didn't get GTA etc), and it didn't exactly accelerate the industry with the machine itself (no revolution). This gen Nintendo have corrected some of those problems and added even more than what the GC didn't have. They have online, decent 3rd party support, they're brought in a "revolution" if you will, and the design of the console is great.

But I think they've still got the same problem as the GC (which is a major reason it lost): No big-name titles.

It doesn't have all those really anticipated games that are coming to 360/PS3 like GTAIV, RE5, GRAW 2, Rainbow Six, Oblivion, Burnout, SSX4 etc.

Do you think this will be the reason the console fails to come on top in sales? Or is this a minor flaw that is countered by Wii's innovative games like Wiisports etc.?

the-very-best

well,...think of this. The PSP already has two GTA games....and yet it's still getting it's ass handed to it by the DS.Shinobishyguy

[QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Kenshi_is_god"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Kenshi_is_god"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="curono"]

ok

[QUOTE="fedameda"]

That fact that nintendo still has kinks in 6 year old hardware surprised me
curono

Still, some 6 year old technologies can be extremely profitable if new tricks are added. Let me refer to history.

DK country. When it came out, PS came out. Just that game extended SNES's life for some time longer, and it was just ONE GAME. The same happened with Perfect Dark. It gave N64 more time of life, when it was already dead (zombie console :lol:)
Imagine what a greater trick can do built in a console

[QUOTE="curono"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Kenshi_is_god"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="Kenshi_is_god"][QUOTE="fedameda"][QUOTE="curono"]

ok

[QUOTE="fedameda"]

That fact that nintendo still has kinks in 6 year old hardware surprised me
fedameda

Still, some 6 year old technologies can be extremely profitable if new tricks are added. Let me refer to history.

DK country. When it came out, PS came out. Just that game extended SNES's life for some time longer, and it was just ONE GAME. The same happened with Perfect Dark. It gave N64 more time of life, when it was already dead (zombie console :lol:)
Imagine what a greater trick can do built in a console

That was exactly my point. Same old dog, with new tricks. It has worked twice, and I find no reason why it should not work a third one