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#1 BenjaminBanklin
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Capcom sez Switch can have DMC5 under one condition... if Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen sells well for the system. I'm not sure what kind of logic that is, buying this less popular game will get you this WAY more popular one. But, that kind of sucks. I mean, in a hilariously cruel kind of way.

Game director Hideaki Itsuno had this to say in a recent inteview

When asked why Devil May Cry 5 isn’t on Switch, Itsuno explained that development started before the team had dev kits. Capcom therefore concentrated on releasing the game for PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and PC. However, Itsuno added that if Dragon’s Dogma: Dark Arisen sells well, they might consider porting Devil May Cry 5 to Nintendo’s console.

https://nintendoeverything.com/devil-may-cry-5-director-says-the-game-might-be-considered-for-switch-if-dragons-dogma-sells-well/

Cut to Itsuno yelling in an Edward G. Robinson accent, "Yah, see? You'll never get this game, see? Get on yer' knees and kiss mah pinkie ring!". Okay I embellished that. But, imagine buying a game console that sells over 30 million units in two years, and they STILL make you port beg for games... by buying old games. Yikes!

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#2  Edited By KBFloYd
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lol cool.

we got street fighter, monster hunter, resident evil, ookami, ace attorney, mega man,final fight

i think we got the best they have to offer.

devil may cry has been dead for years. cool if they bring it over. doesnt matter much with so many capcom games on switch anyway.

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#3 BenjaminBanklin
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@KBFloYd said:

lol cool.

we got street fighter, monster hunter, resident evil, ookami, ace attorney, mega man

i think we got the best they have to offer.

devil may cry has been dead for years. cool if they bring it over. doesnt matter much with so many capcom games on switch anyway.

The twelve steps of damage control: Step 1 - Bargaining

You don't have anything NEW they have to offer. LOL!

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#4  Edited By mandzilla  Moderator
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No biggie, got Bayonetta 3 coming instead.

Same thing with Persona 5. Its cool if they release it, but Shin Megami Tensei is coming regardless.

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#5 nintendoboy16
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Not surprising. Many third parties STILL don't trust Nintendo and their fans after decades of bad blood. Although it's been at a point where the third parties themselves are just adding napalm to a river of lava for a couple gens now, as Capcom themselves basically screwed over Nintendo's Mega Man fans over both the recent collections (but... but... MM11 and Smash...)

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#6  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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Define "sells well"

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#7 Archangel3371
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I’d be quite interested in seeing what Devil May Cry V would look like on the Switch.

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In my opinion, I'd rather have Bayonetta 3/Astral Chain on Switch since it's designed for the hardware, DMC5 would have to make so many compromises and not to mention, Capcom flat out rejected the Switch version when they announced DMC Collection for both PS4/Xbox One, for no reason other than they didn't wanna bother.

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@Archangel3371 said:

I’d be quite interested in seeing what Devil May Cry V would look like on the Switch.

I'll answer that... Shit. I love my Switch, but this port could just be absolute garbage (graphically.)

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Don't really care, Capcom's support of the Switch has been shit.

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#11  Edited By Ogden
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Grate The twelve steps of damage control: Step 1 - Bargaining

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#12 Archangel3371
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@lundy86_4: Yeah probably but I’m just curious as to what it may look like.

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@Archangel3371: Yeah, morbid curiosity and all that lol. If they could do a decent job, it would be great having DmC on the go,

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@lundy86_4: Oh for sure. It would be pretty cool to have a decent version of DMC V on the go.

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#15  Edited By sakaiXx
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LOL. No hostage situation at all, is it wrong for a game company to gauge interest of their product based on their previous performances? Check if their previous attempts is bringing back any profits? Im sorry but isnt Capcom running a business here? Or am I wrong?

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@sakaixx: In this sense, it's odd. I'd understand gauging interest with a game with a similar genre, or even gameplay. Dark Arisen and DmC are drastically different.

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@sakaixx: This is similar to the BS Grasshopper tried to pull when they released Travis Strikes Again. 'You want that game huh? Buy this other game first.'

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#18 BenjaminBanklin
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@sakaixx said:

LOL. No hostage situation at all, is it wrong for a game company to gauge interest of their product based on their previous performances? Check if their previous attempts is bringing back any profits? Im sorry but isnt Capcom running a business here? Or am I wrong?

But what if people don't want old ass Dragon's Dogma? DMC is the more popular series and 5 is the new hotness. That's like telling somebody they can't have a Snicker's bar without buying stale candy corn first.

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@lundy86_4 said:

@sakaixx: In this sense, it's odd. I'd understand gauging interest with a game with a similar genre, or even gameplay. Dark Arisen and DmC are drastically different.

My problem with the line of thinking Capcom is doing, they think there's only a slew full of Switch only gamers on the market. The console has been out for 3 years already, and Capcom is still "experimenting" to see Switch demands, and they only been ports of old games that have been ported to death since the GC/PS2/OG Xbox era. The only new game that has came out for the Switch is Mega Man 11.

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@FireEmblem_Man: For Capcom's recent boon in gaming, this a definite drawback. The Switch is a viable console... End of story.

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@FireEmblem_Man: For Capcom's recent boon in gaming, this a definite drawback. The Switch is a viable console... End of story.

Yep, although, I applaud them for making a huge comeback after how Street Fighter V was treated, and regressed from the trends of Micro-transactions of other 3rd party publishers.

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i.e it's coming anyway and we will overcharge the shit out of you, and it will be vastly inferior to the other versions.

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@FireEmblem_Man: Yeah, Capcom has been on-the-ball with their recent releases. This statement is just dumb lol.

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@uninspiredcup: Yup, and inferior to Bayonetta 3 also.

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#25  Edited By KBFloYd
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@uninspiredcup said:

i.e it's coming anyway and we will overcharge the shit out of you, and it will be vastly inferior to the other versions.

really? is devil may cry winning graphics awards?

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The way it work with a Switch as a marketing it much different to the console. Switch have a different audience which maybe not to much the same as a PlayStation. What happen and to why it held off to release it not to be the hostage but to maximize it sales. If Devils May Cry receive very good review and sell very good then what happen when time for a switch release it give publisher slogan for eshop ad to use like “hit game” or “critical acclaime” game arrive on switch. This separate it from other releases.

As gamer it easy to miss why it done this way. It just publisher recognize variances in a market.

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@i_p_daily said:

Define "sells well"

probably 500k or more.

koei tecmo said the same about dragonball fighterz. if xenoverse 2 sold well theyd bring it over. i think xenoverse 2 sold 500k on switch.

dark arisen will be a harder sale though.

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More expensive, but will be worse in every way.

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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@lundy86_4 said:

@sakaixx: In this sense, it's odd. I'd understand gauging interest with a game with a similar genre, or even gameplay. Dark Arisen and DmC are drastically different.

My problem with the line of thinking Capcom is doing, they think there's only a slew full of Switch only gamers on the market. The console has been out for 3 years already, and Capcom is still "experimenting" to see Switch demands, and they only been ports of old games that have been ported to death since the GC/PS2/OG Xbox era. The only new game that has came out for the Switch is Mega Man 11.

To be fair, neither Onimusha or Dragon Drogma is on nintendo platform. They could have start with DMC4 HD or DMC collections though but eh, Capcom can gauge on whatever they want. Could do the same as SEGA if Capcom ever port those old dmc games. SEGA port Yakuza on Nintendo, nobody buys Yakuza (as usual with 3rd party on nintendo), SEGA want to do anything with nintendo regarding Yakuza series.

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It definitely wouldn't be an easy port to do.

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@sakaixx said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@lundy86_4 said:

@sakaixx: In this sense, it's odd. I'd understand gauging interest with a game with a similar genre, or even gameplay. Dark Arisen and DmC are drastically different.

My problem with the line of thinking Capcom is doing, they think there's only a slew full of Switch only gamers on the market. The console has been out for 3 years already, and Capcom is still "experimenting" to see Switch demands, and they only been ports of old games that have been ported to death since the GC/PS2/OG Xbox era. The only new game that has came out for the Switch is Mega Man 11.

To be fair, neither Onimusha or Dragon Drogma is on nintendo platform. They could have start with DMC4 HD or DMC collections though but eh, Capcom can gauge on whatever they want. Could do the same as SEGA if Capcom ever port those old dmc games. SEGA port Yakuza on Nintendo, nobody buys Yakuza (as usual with 3rd party on nintendo), SEGA want to do anything with nintendo regarding Yakuza series.

Fail!

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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@lundy86_4 said:

@sakaixx: In this sense, it's odd. I'd understand gauging interest with a game with a similar genre, or even gameplay. Dark Arisen and DmC are drastically different.

My problem with the line of thinking Capcom is doing, they think there's only a slew full of Switch only gamers on the market. The console has been out for 3 years already, and Capcom is still "experimenting" to see Switch demands, and they only been ports of old games that have been ported to death since the GC/PS2/OG Xbox era. The only new game that has came out for the Switch is Mega Man 11.

It's as I said since the Wii U era, third parties are just as much instigating further flames between them and Nintendo just as much as Nintendo themselves are/were guilty of doing.

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Meh, Switch doesn't need DMC.

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THey have bayonetta but can see them getting this but not sure how it will run. Hasn't the devs said something about porting to switch in future if they want it.

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What gamer has only a Switch anyway?

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@BenjaminBanklin: would make sense for them to port it over cuz they would sell a lot more units but whatever. It’s their call.

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@unrealgunner: Plenty of folks.

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@nintendoboy16 said:
@sakaixx said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@lundy86_4 said:

@sakaixx: In this sense, it's odd. I'd understand gauging interest with a game with a similar genre, or even gameplay. Dark Arisen and DmC are drastically different.

My problem with the line of thinking Capcom is doing, they think there's only a slew full of Switch only gamers on the market. The console has been out for 3 years already, and Capcom is still "experimenting" to see Switch demands, and they only been ports of old games that have been ported to death since the GC/PS2/OG Xbox era. The only new game that has came out for the Switch is Mega Man 11.

To be fair, neither Onimusha or Dragon Drogma is on nintendo platform *then. They could have start with DMC4 HD or DMC collections though but eh, Capcom can gauge on whatever they want. Could do the same as SEGA if Capcom ever port those old dmc games. SEGA port Yakuza on Nintendo, nobody buys Yakuza (as usual with 3rd party on nintendo), SEGA want to do anything with nintendo regarding Yakuza series.

Fail!

Welp forgot to add *then on that sentence. How careless of me, fixed it thanks. Point still stands capcom as business is just doing what makes sense businesswise.

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I don't plan on buying that game any time soon and if I did I would get it on XB1, hopefully the Japanese make the bigger impact there. They should test the waters with a port of Ninja Theory's DMC game instead.

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I'm not sure how the **** you look at DMC5 and see it running on the Switch without massive compromises. That's what happens when you release hardware that's nowhere near the competitons. You lose out on multiplats.

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DMC definitive edition before they get 5.

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#42 enzyme36
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I love my Switch.... but I wouldnt want to play dmc5 on it anyway. That being said, this game is already a pass for me on my big fancy rig. One of the only capcom series I'm not into.

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@KBFloYd: You're on a roll for posting really stupid trolling nonsense lately...ok always.

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@uninspiredcup said:

i.e it's coming anyway and we will overcharge the shit out of you, and it will be vastly inferior to the other versions.

3yrs later..& yea full price. :P

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Try not to look at the Nintedo Eshop now, it's like a grinning chimpanzee trying to throw shit at people as they pass by it's pen.

Nintendo fans thinking it's cute.

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@sakaixx said:
@nintendoboy16 said:

Fail!

Welp forgot to add *then on that sentence. How careless of me, fixed it thanks. Point still stands capcom as business is just doing what makes sense businesswise.

Yeah... makes "sense". This is basically Capcom on not just the Switch, but Nintendo as a whole right now.

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#47  Edited By sakaiXx
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@nintendoboy16: yeah we know why, cause it doesnt sell there.

Hopefully Megaman does though.

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@sakaixx said:

@nintendoboy16: yeah we know why, cause it doesnt sell there.

Hopefully Megaman does though.

And don't be surprised if even Mega Man doesn't. I mean, they treated the Switch versions of the two retro collections like a bag of d***s.

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I'm not sure how the **** you look at DMC5 and see it running on the Switch without massive compromises. That's what happens when you release hardware that's nowhere near the competitons. You lose out on multiplats.

This is very true. They should be upfront and just tell people they think the game would be too compromised for Switch instead of telling Switch owners they need to buy another game (that's YEARS old BTW) before they can have their newest major titles. That's kind of shitty.

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@sakaixx said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@lundy86_4 said:

@sakaixx: In this sense, it's odd. I'd understand gauging interest with a game with a similar genre, or even gameplay. Dark Arisen and DmC are drastically different.

My problem with the line of thinking Capcom is doing, they think there's only a slew full of Switch only gamers on the market. The console has been out for 3 years already, and Capcom is still "experimenting" to see Switch demands, and they only been ports of old games that have been ported to death since the GC/PS2/OG Xbox era. The only new game that has came out for the Switch is Mega Man 11.

To be fair, neither Onimusha or Dragon Drogma is on nintendo platform. They could have start with DMC4 HD or DMC collections though but eh, Capcom can gauge on whatever they want. Could do the same as SEGA if Capcom ever port those old dmc games. SEGA port Yakuza on Nintendo, nobody buys Yakuza (as usual with 3rd party on nintendo), SEGA want to do anything with nintendo regarding Yakuza series.

Onimusha is on the Switch and Dragon's Dogma is coming out next month for the Switch. I agree that porting the DMC Collection would be a smart move to see demand over Dragon's Dogma. As for Yakuza, the Wii U just wasn't selling to justify the risk as Japan was moving towards Handhelds. I don't believe that port came out west. If there is a portable Yakuza, then Japan will go crazy over it.