Can you have experiences like this on a console?

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#1 iamrob7
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DayZ, mod for Arma 2 on the PC, is now closing in on 1 million players. Currently at 835,000. It produces the kind of experiences and excitement you simply cannot find in any console game. Whereas there is practically nothing in any console game experience that cannot be found on the PC, only bigger, smoother and more beautiful.

Where PC gaming leads, console gaming will eventually follow of course. For example, Minecraft eventually came to the Xbox360, albeit in a much more limited version. However the PC always seems to be at least two steps ahead, right now it appears to be several steps ahead because of how feeble the current console hardware is.

I've had a lot of fun recently with DayZ, it provides you with amazing experiences. The first time I killed another player in this game, I was literally shaking with the adrenalin. I've played competitive FPS multiplayer games for years at a very high level and have never experienced anything even remotely like it. That is just the tip of the iceberg. Here are some examples of some of the experiences you can have in DayZ currently;

Generic trailer -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofyR71JV-TY

- Thisis an experience seen from two different points of view. A group had been rounding new players up on the coast using a bus to take them to a "refugee" camp and become part of their crew. This first video is the point of view of one of the people they rounded up. To clarify, you spawn with no weapon in DayZ. So must of these guys they pick up are unarmed. You can voice chat with other players nearby in any DayZ server by just holding down capslock, that is how they communicate.

From a new players perspective -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQQ4N1kMv9o- be patient, fun starts 5-6 minutes in, but you need to watch the build up.

From the perspective of the group -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt0i5O5Tu04

- The cinemtatic story of two guys who become friends in DayZ, from one rescuing the other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL7K2yb6gFY

- Parachuting Cows (even the hackers can be entertaining)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8NKTFSOd-k

- A man making a newly spawned player take a quiz to live or die

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2p9SGQaAxo

- Revenge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrfyjtIoENQ

- 2 guys spot 2 sniper bandits on a building and decide to sneak up on them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhIuqqc4q50

- One unarmed guy stalks a group of bandits to their base camp, manages to avoid detection and then calls reinforcements in. Freaks them out by playing scary "I can see you" messages via in game voicechat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80qB1J-DXAw- Bit dark this video, make sure you watch full screen in highest quality.

My point is, this is why I like to game on the PC as opposed to consoles, not just because of the superior graphics, the huge library of exceptional games and superior version of every multiplat. It's because the PC is always at the cutting edge. Consoles are fine for sports games on your couch and stuff like that, but the PC is where all the new and exciting things happen in gaming.

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#2 The_RedLion
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Not impressed/10.
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#3 waltefmoney
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I don't know and I'm pretty sure I don't care.

PC has unique games, consoles have unique games, anyone could enjoy both.

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#4 parkurtommo
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I've played it a few times now and I dunno, it seems like finding a weapon and stuff is pretty hard, considering zombies are always around buildings. Usually I die within 5 minutes because I try looking in a house for weapons :(

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#5 iamrob7
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Not impressed/10.The_RedLion

Denial is a wonderful thing. You posted your response within a minute of my post. Hence you read and watched nothing. This is called denial.

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#6 The_RedLion
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]Not impressed/10.iamrob7

Denial is a wonderful thing. You posted your response within a minute of my post. Hence you read and watched nothing. This is called denial.

Incorrect, that's called not giving a f*ck. I'm already well aware of what DayZ is, I don't need to go through your overly long post to know it doesn't impress me.

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a pity the foo who disagrees with TC

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#8 waltefmoney
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2p9SGQaAxo

I swear this is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen.

THIS is why people make fun of hermits.

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#9 iamrob7
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I've played it a few times now and I dunno, it seems like finding a weapon and stuff is pretty hard, considering zombies are always around buildings. Usually I die within 5 minutes because I try looking in a house for weapons :(

parkurtommo

There is a steep learning curve. I was lucky to start playing it very early, first 20,000 players, when you spawned with a pistol. So I learnt everything then. I know the coastal area pretty much without having to look at a map. I know where buildings are etc. Nowadays when I spawn I can get fairly high level gear, AK or M16 etc, and get out of the coastal area within about 20 minutes. Try playing it with friends or with someone who knows what they are doing if you are struggling. Or even better, finding someone to befriend on the server. First time I played this game I made friends with 8 different people and we went around learning the game and protecting one another.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2p9SGQaAxo

I swear this is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen.

THIS is why people make fun of hermits.

waltefmoney
lol that was hilarious
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#11 iamrob7
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[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]Not impressed/10.The_RedLion

Denial is a wonderful thing. You posted your response within a minute of my post. Hence you read and watched nothing. This is called denial.

Incorrect, that's called not giving a f*ck. I'm already well aware of what DayZ is, I don't need to go through your overly long post to know it doesn't impress me.

Denial is always masked as "not giving a f*ck".

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2p9SGQaAxo

I swear this is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen.

THIS is why people make fun of hermits.

parkurtommo

lol that was hilarious

I didn't watch it till the end but I bet I know more about Game of Thrones than that guy :cool:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2p9SGQaAxo

I swear this is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen.

THIS is why people make fun of hermits.

waltefmoney

You have no sense of humour. You understand they are just having a laugh right?

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#14 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2p9SGQaAxo

I swear this is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen.

THIS is why people make fun of hermits.

iamrob7

You have no sense of humour. You understand they are just having a laugh right?

I'm pretty sure the guy recording it was robbing the other guy, and maybe the trivia was to determine if he would live or not, sick bastard :P
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#15 The_RedLion
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Denial is always masked as "not giving a f*ck".iamrob7
TBH, the only one showing signs of denial is you, not being able to accept that somebody doesn't care about your precious game. Keep going, though, it's funny :)
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#16 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="iamrob7"]Denial is always masked as "not giving a f*ck".The_RedLion
TBH, the only one showing signs of denial is you, not being able to accept that somebody doesn't care about your precious game. Keep going, though, it's funny :)

Why would you post in this thread if you didn't care
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#17 The_RedLion
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Why would you post in this thread if you didn't careparkurtommo
Because I want to.
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#18 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]Why would you post in this thread if you didn't careThe_RedLion
Because I want to.

You want to post in a thread that you don't care about
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#19 iamrob7
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[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2p9SGQaAxo

I swear this is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen.

THIS is why people make fun of hermits.

parkurtommo

You have no sense of humour. You understand they are just having a laugh right?

I'm pretty sure the guy recording it was robbing the other guy, and maybe the trivia was to determine if he would live or not, sick bastard :P

Lol, he was indeed. There are worse videos where people kidnap others and make them do weird things...

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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]Why would you post in this thread if you didn't careThe_RedLion
Because I want to.

lol, circular logic, another sure sign of denial :)

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#21 waltefmoney
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Lol, he was indeed. There are worse videos where people kidnap others and make them do weird things...

iamrob7

I've seen videos of women having sex with animals.

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#22 The_RedLion
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]You want to post in a thread that you don't care aboutparkurtommo
Yep, because it's funny to see the angry reactions of people because I "dared" not to care about their precious game.
lol, circular logic, another sure sign of denial :) iamrob7
Neither was that circular logic, nor is circular logic a sign of denial. I would advice not to talk about things you don't know about :)
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#23 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

Lol, he was indeed. There are worse videos where people kidnap others and make them do weird things...

waltefmoney

I've seen videos of women having sex with animals.

Hot.
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[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

Lol, he was indeed. There are worse videos where people kidnap others and make them do weird things...

waltefmoney

I've seen videos of women having sex with animals.

I'm happy for you.

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#25 waltefmoney
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Anyway if you really wanna see how dumb hermits can be check this sh!t out.

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#26 iamrob7
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]]You want to post in a thread that you don't care aboutThe_RedLion
Yep, because it's funny to see the angry reactions of people because I "dared" not to care about their precious game.
lol, circular logic, another sure sign of denial :) iamrob7
Neither was that circular logic, nor is circular logic a sign of denial. I would advice not to talk about things you don't know about :)

He exposed your fatal error. If you did not care, you would not post. This is undeniable. You are trapped now in your circular denial. I will admit to enjoying watching you squirm. I am a terrible person.

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#27 iamrob7
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Anyway if you really wanna see how dumb hermits can be check this sh!t out.

waltefmoney

The bitterness in this one is strong.

Just save up and buy yourself a nice PC. Then you won't have all the jealously and negativity swirling around inside you :)

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#28 The_RedLion
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If you did not care, you would not post. This is undeniable. iamrob7
That's silly. People posts for tons reason, being interested in the game is only one of them. For example, I'm having a lot of fun reading your made up responses and poor attempts at psychoanalysis. Think about it, 5 replies and none is about the game in question. That should tell you how unrelated the reason for posting and the game itself are.
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Anyway if you really wanna see how dumb hermits can be check this sh!t out.

iamrob7

The bitterness in this one is strong.

Just save up and buy yourself a nice PC. Then you won't have all the jealously and negativity swirling around inside you :)

No thank you, I don't like quizzes.

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sure DayZ is all cool and that, but honestly give it a rest hermits acting like its a 2nd coming.

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[QUOTE="iamrob7"]If you did not care, you would not post. This is undeniable. The_RedLion
That's silly. People posts for tons reason, being interested in the game is only one of them. For example, I'm having a lot of fun reading your made up responses and poor attempts at psychoanalysis. Think about it, 5 replies and none is about the game in question. That should tell you how unrelated the reason for posting and the game itself are.

I don't need any psychoanalysis. It's the simplest understanding of human beings available to us. If a person offers input into a thing, then he cares about a thing, whether he wants to or not. It's just the way human beings work. You are in denial, this is stage 1 :)

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#32 iamrob7
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[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Anyway if you really wanna see how dumb hermits can be check this sh!t out.

waltefmoney

The bitterness in this one is strong.

Just save up and buy yourself a nice PC. Then you won't have all the jealously and negativity swirling around inside you :)

No thank you, I don't like quizez.

Then be the guy with the gun ;)

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#33 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="iamrob7"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Anyway if you really wanna see how dumb hermits can be check this sh!t out.

waltefmoney

The bitterness in this one is strong.

Just save up and buy yourself a nice PC. Then you won't have all the jealously and negativity swirling around inside you :)

No thank you, I don't like quizez.

quizez?
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#34 The_RedLion
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If a person offers input into a thing, then he cares about a thingiamrob7
Not if the imput is "I don't care". It's quite basic, really. You presented a topic (this thread), and I responded, that's what forums are for. I'm afraid you're the one in denial, is it really that hard to accept somebody doesn't care about your game? I know it's hard bro, but deal with it :(
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#35 waltefmoney
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quizez?parkurtommo

No english :(

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#36 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

quizez?waltefmoney

No english :(

lol try searching "poo" in google images.

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#37 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

quizez?parkurtommo

No english :(

lol try searching "poo" in google images.

I see images of poo.

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#38 Articuno76
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There is a big difference between console game experiences being potentially viable on PCs (which is as you pointed out is almost always possible) and those experiences actually being available on the PC << More often than not, the games I want to play on my consoles aren't released on the PC at all.
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

quizez?parkurtommo

No english :(

lol try searching "poo" in google images.

why do you reply to every single thing he says? are you in wuv? dawwwwwww
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Anyway if you really wanna see how dumb hermits can be check this sh!t out.

waltefmoney

There is a time for women,and then there is the time for PC.

You don't mix bussiness with pleasure ;)

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#41 iamrob7
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[QUOTE="iamrob7"]If a person offers input into a thing, then he cares about a thingThe_RedLion
Not if the imput is "I don't care". It's quite basic, really. You presented a topic (this thread), and I responded, that's what forums are for. I'm afraid you're the one in denial, is it really that hard to accept somebody doesn't care about your game? I know it's hard bro, but deal with it :(

Yes a person cares precisely if a person offers the statement "I don't care". If a person truly didn't care, they wouldn't feel the need to offer that expression. I understand that this seems like complicated psychoanalysis to you, but in reality it is rather simple.

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Anyway if you really wanna see how dumb hermits can be check this sh!t out.

Rocker6

There is a time for women,and then there is the time for PC.

You don't mix bussiness with pleasure ;)

THAT'S NOT WHAT THOSE ELDER SCROLLS MODS SAY.

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Meh, I can appreciate the game and why it is appealing to some, but I dont personally like this kind of stuff. PC and consoles both have experiences you wont get anywhere else. Nothing new.
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="iamrob7"]If a person offers input into a thing, then he cares about a thingiamrob7

Not if the imput is "I don't care". It's quite basic, really. You presented a topic (this thread), and I responded, that's what forums are for. I'm afraid you're the one in denial, is it really that hard to accept somebody doesn't care about your game? I know it's hard bro, but deal with it :(

Yes a person cares precisely if a person offers the statement "I don't care". If a person truly didn't care, they wouldn't feel the need to offer that expression. I understand that this seems like complicated psychoanalysis to you, but in reality it is rather simple.

Some people do though, if they are fed up hearing something they usually express their desire to say things like i dont care.

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"PC is where all the new and exciting things happen in gaming"

there is some truth to that but I personally found the videos a bit boring.

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Yes a person cares precisely if a person offers the statement "I don't care".iamrob7
Lol, sure bro.
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#47 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Anyway if you really wanna see how dumb hermits can be check this sh!t out.

waltefmoney

There is a time for women,and then there is the time for PC.

You don't mix bussiness with pleasure ;)

THAT'S NOT WHAT THOSE ELDER SCROLLS MODS SAY.

PC women=/=RL women...

RL women are bussiness,an annoying distraction from the game ;)

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#48 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

There is a time for women,and then there is the time for PC.

You don't mix bussiness with pleasure ;)

Rocker6

THAT'S NOT WHAT THOSE ELDER SCROLLS MODS SAY.

PC women=/=RL women...

RL women are bussiness,an annoying distraction from the game ;)

PC women aren't as attractive as console women.

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#49 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

No english :(

-Unreal-

lol try searching "poo" in google images.

why do you reply to every single thing he says? are you in wuv? dawwwwwww

I didn't reply to at least one of them so your argument is invalid :cool:
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#50 iamrob7
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There is a big difference between console game experiences being potentially viable on PCs (which is as you pointed out is almost always possible) and those experiences actually being available on the PC << More often than not, the games I want to play on my consoles aren't released on the PC at all.Articuno76

Every platform has its exclusives. What I am addressing here are the unique nature of the experiences. Infamous was only released on the PS3, so that experience you can only get on the PS3. However there are a lot of 3rd person action games with relatively similar features available on every platform. The same goes for any console exclusive. The only exception being something like the Journey to some extent. You can play those type of games on any platform. They might have a different protagonist, a different story and different interesting choices. The format however remains largely the same. On the PC you have all of that but the new cutting edge experiences of emergent gameplay that you do not get elsewhere. For example DayZ and to a lesser extent games like minecraft/EVE etc etc. I don't like EVE myself for instance, but I cannot deny the unique experiences that have emerged from its gameplay.

In short, any experience on a console can be found on the PC, just with a different hat on. The same cannot be said of the reverse.