Bethesda: Skyrim Looks 'Way Better' On PC, Almost Went Next-Gen!

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]Think I'll survive playing it on my ps3.GD1551

Wasn't the PS3 version of oblivion pretty bad?

dont care which is better, has long they fix the voice animations. i am tired of seeing the civilians mouths not move when they talk, even though its funny. its just makes me mad

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]Think I'll survive playing it on my ps3.GD1551

Wasn't the PS3 version of oblivion pretty bad?

I wouldn't have put 200+ hrs into something I thought was bad.

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"]No that's bull, there's no game period that has been developed for consoles that looks drastically better on PC... yes more AA, AF and higher resolutions and slightly better textures. Even in the most extreme of case's its still arguably a little better at best. If anything this generation of gaming has proven is that, publishers do not see the PC as viable investment... what good does a better looking game get them, Better sales?... NO. There's a reason why 2007 game still wipes the floor with almost every game visually. Graphics will heavily improve for the PC when new consoles come out. Because then the games will be developed for newer console hardware :D.GD1551

You're spectacularly wrong. "Even" forcing AA, AF and twice the res constitutes a next gen difference.

It's a shame that devs let hardware do the work for them entirely, especially, when those low quality console assets end up being detrimentive from the experience.

Rage will be another example of this. Prepare for blurry textures wheneven you get close to something.

Rage looks amazing though. I don't watch walls while I'm gaming so it's not an issue for me. At least rage will show console only gamers what they are missing out on with 60FPS!

No it won't. It'll merely fuel their conviction that we spend 4000$ on our PCs ever month in order to sustain Minecraft.

These are the forums that loathe "PC elitists" while worshipping DF and LoT afterall.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]Think I'll survive playing it on my ps3.Chris_Williams

Wasn't the PS3 version of oblivion pretty bad?

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]Think I'll survive playing it on my ps3.Chris_Williams

Wasn't the PS3 version of oblivion pretty bad?

They already said the difference between console and PC was going to minimal. They are just trying to sell the PC version.

They already said the difference between console and PC was going to minimal. They are just trying to sell the PC version.

Gibsonsg527

Are you sure they weren't just trying to promote the console versions?

OMG! Way better?

A resolution increase is going to skyrocket Skyrim into the next millenium of graphics 8)

Ly_the_Fairy

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"]No that's bull, there's no game period that has been developed for consoles that looks drastically better on PC... yes more AA, AF and higher resolutions and slightly better textures. Even in the most extreme of case's its still arguably a little better at best. If anything this generation of gaming has proven is that, publishers do not see the PC as viable investment... what good does a better looking game get them, Better sales?... NO. There's a reason why 2007 game still wipes the floor with almost every game visually. Graphics will heavily improve for the PC when new consoles come out. Because then the games will be developed for newer console hardware :D.GD1551

You're spectacularly wrong. "Even" forcing AA, AF and twice the res constitutes a next gen difference.

It's a shame that devs let hardware do the work for them entirely, especially, when those low quality console assets end up being detrimentive from the experience.

Rage will be another example of this. Prepare for blurry textures wheneven you get close to something.

Rage looks amazing though. I don't watch walls while I'm gaming so it's not an issue for me. At least rage will show console only gamers what they are missing out on with 60FPS!

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

You're spectacularly wrong. "Even" forcing AA, AF and twice the res constitutes a next gen difference.

It's a shame that devs let hardware do the work for them entirely, especially, when those low quality console assets end up being detrimentive from the experience.

Rage will be another example of this. Prepare for blurry textures wheneven you get close to something.

Cranler

Rage looks amazing though. I don't watch walls while I'm gaming so it's not an issue for me. At least rage will show console only gamers what they are missing out on with 60FPS!

[QUOTE="Gibsonsg527"]

They already said the difference between console and PC was going to minimal. They are just trying to sell the PC version.

GD1551

Are you sure they weren't just trying to promote the console versions?

What in that statement he made promoted the console version :|

If anything he just ****-talked their own lead platform.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Wasn't the PS3 version of oblivion pretty bad?

GD1551

Depends on which site you go to. They're practically the same. Gametrailers said the ps3 version was better. Gamespot says 360 was better. Answer: They're the same.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Looks pretty sub-par, even for an open world game. There are various screenshots circling around. Pretty disappointing stuff.

GeneralShowzer

Second I have no idea what it has to do with this thread

And lastly,stop putting words in my mouth.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] BF3 runs like crap, it looks good for what it is, its a big step up from Oblivion. Why do you want games that we cant even run...

Birdy09

Second I have no idea what it has to do with this thread

And lastly,stop putting words in my mouth.

cod is 60fps on console

Cranler

That's one of the probably 5 games that run at 60FPS on console!

[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] You can't know how BF3 runs, you can only know how the ALPHA runs.

Second I have no idea what it has to do with this thread

And lastly,stop putting words in my mouth.

GeneralShowzer

What they showed in the gameplay trailer and what they recently shown at the event looks the same. Is this the first time you've seen the game?

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

cod is 60fps on console

GD1551

That's one of the probably 5 games that run at 60FPS on console!

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Birdy09"] Fine. But you know my point fully. Skyrim is by no means "sub-par" to say so is ridiculous. even if it is an opinion, what was you expecting Crysis graphics? this isnt the easy-to-make shooter genre that is being churned out everyday.lawlessx

What they showed in the gameplay trailer and what they recently shown at the event looks the same. Is this the first time you've seen the game?

The Irony here is no PC Gamer without an SLI/Crossfire setup will be running BF3 or Skyrim at 60 FPS either.... my 5770 is benchmarking 23-29 fps on BF3's medium alpha ... amazing... but no suprize. Never buy the PC Gamer "60 FPS" on brand new games that are taxing on hardware, it never happens. (Yes the 5770 is budget so my personal circumstances are invalid, I can afford to upgrade, but buying any of the current series is a waste if you want these games at 60FPS.... so im waiting.).Birdy09

Why not Skyrim? We can play Oblivion beyond max settings and still get 100+ FPS with good video cards, and Skyrim is just Oblivion with more detail and non-speedtree'd forests.

My GTX 570 is clocking 50-60+FPS from that alpha at 2048x1152.

Skyrim will play at 60FPS at 1080p. It's not going to be hard to run because it isn't a visual stunner and it isn't filled with advanced tech.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] It looks pretty underwhelming to me,especially since the graphics were hyped and the snow levels compared to Crysis : Warhead. Fact of the matter is the trailer they've shown is mostly pre-rendered and I was pretty underwhelmed by leaked footage and screenshots. It's by no means a looker,even by console standards RDR I've played and it looks amazing on consoles and it's an open world game.GeneralShowzer

What they showed in the gameplay trailer and what they recently shown at the event looks the same. Is this the first time you've seen the game?

So you think this is prerendered too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BhaNBKRR-Y&feature=related

Looks the same as the trailer to me.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]

What they showed in the gameplay trailer and what they recently shown at the event looks the same. Is this the first time you've seen the game?

lawlessx

So you think this is prerendered too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BhaNBKRR-Y&feature=related

Looks the same as the trailer to me.

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

OMG! Way better?

A resolution increase is going to skyrocket Skyrim into the next millenium of graphics 8)

Cranler

Doubtful. I'm just beat Old World Blues on 360 and been modding/playing New Vegas on PC with a mix of PocoBueno/OjoBueno Texture Packs and Hi Detail Landscape Normals. It's looks better, but I wouldn't really pick apart most of the differences unless someone pointed them out to me first hand. The jump in graphics is massively overstated. The only thing consoles really do horrible at is the excessive pop-in and lower AA. Those are pretty much the biggest differences between the platforms.

The only thing Bethesda really needs to do is fix the bugs in their engine. Game froze up 3 times last night on 360, and crashes to desktop every 30 mins on PC (Though it's probably Project Nevada or Wasteland Defense causing that). Annoying as hell. I'd rather them not update the graphics at all and just focus on making the engine more stable.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] No, this is 90% pre-rendered http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vizKJt3YGMM And there is no high quality videos yet to compare, but even those look dissapointing .GeneralShowzer

So you think this is prerendered too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BhaNBKRR-Y&feature=related

Looks the same as the trailer to me.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]

So you think this is prerendered too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BhaNBKRR-Y&feature=related

Looks the same as the trailer to me.

lawlessx

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]The Irony here is no PC Gamer without an SLI/Crossfire setup will be running BF3 or Skyrim at 60 FPS either.... my 5770 is benchmarking 23-29 fps on BF3's medium alpha ... amazing... but no suprize. Never buy the PC Gamer "60 FPS" on brand new games that are taxing on hardware, it never happens. (Yes the 5770 is budget so my personal circumstances are invalid, I can afford to upgrade, but buying any of the current series is a waste if you want these games at 60FPS.... so im waiting.).ChubbyGuy40

Why not Skyrim? We can play Oblivion beyond max settings and still get 100+ FPS with good video cards, and Skyrim is just Oblivion with more detail and non-speedtree'd forests.

My GTX 570 is clocking 50-60+FPS from that alpha at 2048x1152.

Skyrim will play at 60FPS at 1080p. It's not going to be hard to run because it isn't a visual stunner and it isn't filled with advanced tech.

Looks better than most games simply because of the art/theme direction alone.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

OMG! Way better?

A resolution increase is going to skyrocket Skyrim into the next millenium of graphics 8)

Kickinurass

Doubtful. I'm just beat Old World Blues on 360 and been modding/playing New Vegas on PC with a mix of PocoBueno/OjoBueno Texture Packs and Hi Detail Landscape Normals. It's looks better, but I wouldn't really pick apart most of the differences unless someone pointed them out to me first hand. The jump in graphics is massively overstated. The only thing consoles really do horrible at is the excessive pop-in and lower AA. Those are pretty much the biggest differences between the platforms.

The only thing Bethesda really needs to do is fix the bugs in their engine. Game froze up 3 times last night on 360, and crashes to desktop every 30 mins on PC (Though it's probably Project Nevada or Wasteland Defense causing that). Annoying as hell. I'd rather them not update the graphics at all and just focus on making the engine more stable.

Then again, the Oblivion/Fallout 3 engine never had anything next gen to impress us with at this point in time.

Do try and play vanilla New vegas at ultra and load the console version next to it. The difference is huge.

That sounds wonderful on paper, but from experience it wont work out that way. you get a 6970 now, itl play Skyrim max at around 30fps gaurentee it (with AA, 1080p ect...) due to whatever reason, poorly optmized, some new graphic features... you name it.... and the fact that you are all underestimating the games graphics. And BF3 ... well maxing that is a laughable idea. il be pleasantly shocked if I'm wrong.... but just like Crysis. people are falling for the "yea sure you can max it on the latest series... just hand over the money" .... yea.... right....Birdy09

I believe Dice said no PC has been built that can max BF3.

That sounds wonderful on paper, but from experience it wont work out that way. you get a 6970 now, itl play Skyrim max at around 30fps gaurentee it (with AA, 1080p ect...) due to whatever reason, poorly optmized, some new graphic features... you name it.... and the fact that you are all underestimating the games graphics. And BF3 ... well maxing that is a laughable idea. il be pleasantly shocked if I'm wrong.... but just like Crysis. people are falling for the "yea sure you can max it on the latest series... just hand over the money" .... yea.... right....Birdy09

How are we underestimating it graphically? So far it's Oblivion with nordic-influenced design. Nothing we've seen so far is any kind of graphical stunner/powerhouse. If there will be that sort of features, shame on them for showing us the 360 version this whole time.

They've been running BF3 off a single GTX 580 at 60FPS. Unless that wasn't even maxed, then I doubt we're gonna have any problems.

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

That sounds wonderful on paper, but from experience it wont work out that way. you get a 6970 now, itl play Skyrim max at around 30fps gaurentee it (with AA, 1080p ect...) due to whatever reason, poorly optmized, some new graphic features... you name it.... and the fact that you are all underestimating the games graphics. And BF3 ... well maxing that is a laughable idea. il be pleasantly shocked if I'm wrong.... but just like Crysis. people are falling for the "yea sure you can max it on the latest series... just hand over the money" .... yea.... right....GD1551

I believe Dice said no PC has been built that can max BF3.

The Irony here is no PC Gamer without an SLI/Crossfire setup will be running BF3 or Skyrim at 60 FPS either.... my 5770 is benchmarking 23-29 fps on BF3's medium alpha ... amazing... but no suprize. Never buy the PC Gamer "60 FPS" on brand new games that are taxing on hardware, it never happens. (Yes the 5770 is budget so my personal circumstances are invalid, I can afford to upgrade, but buying any of the current series is a waste if you want these games at 60FPS.... so im waiting.).Birdy09

That's true, I figure most don't get the 60FPS they want. For me though, on PC I'm more into games like Diablo, HON and dota. Throw in GW 2 and that's pretty much my thing, the multiplats are just a plus so I don't really care about not maxing out those two or three games on the market, and the games I do play I get 60FPS + in :D . Still I agree though, I think alot of people throw around this 60FPS thing when the majority of us do not play at 60fps.

I'll be happy to play the same game on my $300 console, and trust me, i'll enjoy it as much as if i would be playing it on the most powerful PC ever, so who cares. If you are even a little smart you can realize that this is just marketing, 2 weeks ago the same guys said on a interview the game would look the same on the PC and consoles. All they are trying to do is promote the game so topics like this are created. ID is doing the same thing with RAGE, every week comes a new interview, one week it looks the same on all platforms, the other its better on the PC, the other the game was made with the consoles in mind and its better on consoles...etc. In the end, we will all be playing the same game.Nolakk

The curse of being a Hermit is that you cannot unsee.

Your curse is the arrogance of one that has not yet seen.

yay the 1 billionth theard that new hardware is better then old hardware

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] That sounds wonderful on paper, but from experience it wont work out that way. you get a 6970 now, itl play Skyrim max at around 30fps gaurentee it (with AA, 1080p ect...) due to whatever reason, poorly optmized, some new graphic features... you name it.... and the fact that you are all underestimating the games graphics. And BF3 ... well maxing that is a laughable idea. il be pleasantly shocked if I'm wrong.... but just like Crysis. people are falling for the "yea sure you can max it on the latest series... just hand over the money" .... yea.... right....ChubbyGuy40

How are we underestimating it graphically? So far it's Oblivion with nordic-influenced design. Nothing we've seen so far is any kind of graphical stunner/powerhouse. If there will be that sort of features, shame on them for showing us the 360 version this whole time.

They've been running BF3 off a single GTX 580 at 60FPS. Unless that wasn't even maxed, then I doubt we're gonna have any problems.

Personally, I think it looks waaaaay better than Oblivion. But the main reason is art direction if not raw horsepower. They fixed the things I complained about, more realistic looking characters, more variety, diversity, fantasy environments, more activities to do in game. Guess what, this game DOES NOT have to beat The Witcher in graphics. And yes, it's going to look better than what we've seen so far in screenshots and video. We know this because this is 360 footage. C'mon, you think a PC game isn't gonna up the ante grapichally from consoles??

[QUOTE="Nolakk"]I'll be happy to play the same game on my $300 console, and trust me, i'll enjoy it as much as if i would be playing it on the most powerful PC ever, so who cares. If you are even a little smart you can realize that this is just marketing, 2 weeks ago the same guys said on a interview the game would look the same on the PC and consoles. All they are trying to do is promote the game so topics like this are created. ID is doing the same thing with RAGE, every week comes a new interview, one week it looks the same on all platforms, the other its better on the PC, the other the game was made with the consoles in mind and its better on consoles...etc. In the end, we will all be playing the same game.Filthybastrd

The curse of being a Hermit is that you cannot unsee.

Your curse is the arrogance of one that has not yet seen.

ill believe it when the game comes out and not a day sooner, after all of the pr bs thats happened lately with some games, i refuse to take 50% of what a pr person says seriously

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"] That sounds wonderful on paper, but from experience it wont work out that way. you get a 6970 now, itl play Skyrim max at around 30fps gaurentee it (with AA, 1080p ect...) due to whatever reason, poorly optmized, some new graphic features... you name it.... and the fact that you are all underestimating the games graphics. And BF3 ... well maxing that is a laughable idea. il be pleasantly shocked if I'm wrong.... but just like Crysis. people are falling for the "yea sure you can max it on the latest series... just hand over the money" .... yea.... right....marq4porsche

How are we underestimating it graphically? So far it's Oblivion with nordic-influenced design. Nothing we've seen so far is any kind of graphical stunner/powerhouse. If there will be that sort of features, shame on them for showing us the 360 version this whole time.

They've been running BF3 off a single GTX 580 at 60FPS. Unless that wasn't even maxed, then I doubt we're gonna have any problems.

Personally, I think it looks waaaaay better than Oblivion. But the main reason is art direction if not raw horsepower. They fixed the things I complained about, more realistic looking characters, more variety, diversity, fantasy environments, more activities to do in game. Guess what, this game DOES NOT have to beat The Witcher in graphics. And yes, it's going to look better than what we've seen so far in screenshots and video. We know this because this is 360 footage. C'mon, you think a PC game isn't gonna up the ante grapichally from consoles??

[QUOTE="marq4porsche"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

How are we underestimating it graphically? So far it's Oblivion with nordic-influenced design. Nothing we've seen so far is any kind of graphical stunner/powerhouse. If there will be that sort of features, shame on them for showing us the 360 version this whole time.

They've been running BF3 off a single GTX 580 at 60FPS. Unless that wasn't even maxed, then I doubt we're gonna have any problems.

linkin_guy109

Personally, I think it looks waaaaay better than Oblivion. But the main reason is art direction if not raw horsepower. They fixed the things I complained about, more realistic looking characters, more variety, diversity, fantasy environments, more activities to do in game. Guess what, this game DOES NOT have to beat The Witcher in graphics. And yes, it's going to look better than what we've seen so far in screenshots and video. We know this because this is 360 footage. C'mon, you think a PC game isn't gonna up the ante grapichally from consoles??

No one has to justify their preference. I'm getting it on PC because I simply want to get it on PC. If someone wants it on console that's their prerogative.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]Title is misleading. Bethesda already said that the differences will be as minimal as possible.lawlessx

Exactly. It just sounds like they're trying to hype the PC version.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Exactly. It just sounds like they're trying to hype the PC version.

TailBlood

Better texture, much faster load times, much higher fps, probably longer view distance, and MODS. Oh and expect more than 10,000 pc gamers, FO3 has like 3million digital sales total.

it's going to be far better on PC. To think the difference will be minimal is you fooling only yourself.

yay the 1 billionth theard that new hardware is better then old hardware

dontshackzmii

How is this thread even about that?

Yip, there wont be much differences between the consoile and pc verisons, till the Modding community kicks in that is.

I didn't even know PC was in a generation, I just thought of it as an exception because it gets new hardware so frequently.

Its the Song- er Gen that never ends!! :D

I didn't even know PC was in a generation, I just thought of it as an exception because it gets new hardware so frequently.

Its the Song- er Gen that never ends!! :D

bbkkristian

OMG why'd you do that! Now that damm song's in my head!:cry: