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#1  Edited By BlueEyedCasva
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Gameplay footage of Star Wars Battlefront revealed at E3 last month ran at 900p, according to a report by Digital Foundry.

The site states that the footage offers a "genuine, practical look at console gameplay in motion," but follows up by saying that "from an early pixel-count we see the game matches the basic framebuffer setup of Battlefield 4 and Hardline: the evidence suggesting this PS4 build runs at a native 1600x900 with a pass of post-process anti-aliasing."

That's some way away from the initial reveal trailer, which Digital Foundry believes may have been "rendered at a resolution beyond 1080p and likely down-sampled to achieve a crisper image, with a stutter-free frame-rate and footage chopped to give us an idealised vision of the game."

The site also notes that depth of field and per-object motion blur effects featured in the initial trailer are absent from the PS4 demo, too.

What isn't yet clear, however, is how the Xbox One version performs or whether the PS4 resolution could be improved in the run up to launch.

Here the source

The demo is actually 40 to 50s FPS not a constant 60

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#2 ShadowDeathX
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Kind of expected and I see no issue with it. DICE are dedicating some of the Compute Units on the Xbox One and PS4 GPU to make-up for that "Designed for Tablets" CPU.

PS4 = 900p

Xbox One = 720p

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#3 Salt_The_Fries
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@ShadowDeathX: Frostbite engine built specifically for next gen...my ass.

Btw I wonder how pathetic it will look on the Xbone as Hardline and BF4 were ugly beyond belief there.

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#4 NyaDC
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Damn, I'm going to feel bad playing this on Ultra at 2560x1440 with over 100 FPS average.

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#5  Edited By BlueEyedCasva
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EA has a track record of releasing console games below 1080p. Quality ports hasn't been a big priority anyways.

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#6  Edited By ProtossX
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@ShadowDeathX said:

Kind of expected and I see no issue with it. DICE are dedicating some of the Compute Units on the Xbox One and PS4 GPU to make-up for that "Designed for Tablets" CPU.

PS4 = 900p

Xbox One = 720p

you see no issue with 900p...yet every week we get a new game thats 900p on xbone and every person is bashing it.

we got websites all bashing 900p on xb1 all day long.

MY TV is 1080p My monitor 1080p this is 2015 the year of GTX titans doing 4k

im not impressed with 900p visually so no don't you don't see issue with this when everyone else does on every media site an users on here slam every week when a new game comes out

So yes if I teleported back in time and my tv was 900p i would be fine with 900p resolution the issue my tv is 1080p thats its resolution its not going to change it is what it is period.

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#7 NyaDC
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@ProtossX said:
@ShadowDeathX said:

Kind of expected and I see no issue with it. DICE are dedicating some of the Compute Units on the Xbox One and PS4 GPU to make-up for that "Designed for Tablets" CPU.

PS4 = 900p

Xbox One = 720p

you see no issue with 900p...yet every week we get a new game thats 900p on xbone and every person is bashing it.

we got websites all bashing 900p on xb1 all day long.

MY TV is 1080p My monitor 1080p this is 2015 the year of GTX titans doing 4k

im not impressed with 900p visually so no don't you don't see issue with this when everyone else does on every media site an users on here slam every week when a new game comes out

So yes if I teleported back in time and my tv was 900p i would be fine with 900p resolution the issue my tv is 1080p thats its resolution its not going to change it is what it is period.

It is what it is, they're getting the best out of the hardware they can.

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#8  Edited By SolidTy
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We should just wait and see what the final product is running at. What about Xbone, is it going to be 720p? We'll just have to wait and see.

We've seen many changes from demo to final release over the last two decades, I don't see why this time is any different.

Besides, we also know the console versions, besides being DRM free (with regards to used games), the console versions will cover split screen gaming. It could be that split screen code that is affecting the early builds at E3.

Star Wars Battlefront for PC Has No Split-Screen, only PS4/Xbone have Split-Screen (LINK)

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So let me understand this... If a game is 900p on the Xbox One it's a joke but if it's on the PS4 at that resolution it's fine?

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@ProtossX: You getting the PC version?

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#11 ProtossX
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@thedork_knight: no my pc can't handle this game currently

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#12  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@nyadc said:

Damn, I'm going to feel bad playing this on Ultra at 2560x1440 with over 100 FPS average.

One can only hope.

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wow, pretty disgusting to see sony deceive people again.

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#14  Edited By Suppaman100
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Still better than Xbone.

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That's ridiculous. No game at this point should run at sub1080p.

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#16 FoxbatAlpha
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Who cares. The graphics they shown at E3 where mind blowing regardless of whatever P.

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lol 900pStation.

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#18 Legend002
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So 576p for the Xbox One version?

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#19 DaVillain  Moderator
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Meh regardless of what resolution it is for each system, I'm just going to skip this new Star Wars Battlefront just for the facts that this is a EA game and I'm not thrilled what I'm hearing so far. That said, I'll wait for the reviews and see if this is worth the purchase.

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@Legend002 said:

So 576p for the Xbox One version?

720probably

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#21 playharderfool
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Isn't it multiplayer only anyway?

No fucks given since I will never buy it. This is one of the times I'd PC is the only place to play a game (Battlefront).

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#22 DEadliNE-Zero0
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well duh. If it's going for 60fps, it won't be 1080p on consoles.

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#23 freedomfreak
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Wouldn't be surprised considering BF4 was also 900P.

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#24  Edited By tushar172787
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**** resolution, is it fun to play? NO, IT'S MADE BY EA!

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#25  Edited By deactivated-58abb194ab6fb
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All Dice games runs at these resolutions on the consoles. The Battlefield games were 900p on PS4 and 720P on X1, I don't see Battlefront being any different.

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#26  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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AH OHHHHHH. Are the cows going to be able to enjoy it?

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There's not a chance in hell it's going to be 1080p 60fps on consoles.

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@deadline-zero0 said:

well duh. If it's going for 60fps, it won't be 1080p on consoles.

This is EA were talking about. Of course it won't be 1080p on consoles.

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#29 pankar94
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@xhawk27:

Because when ps4 is at 900p xbox one is at 720p.That's why it's fine.

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#30  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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@davillain- said:
@deadline-zero0 said:

well duh. If it's going for 60fps, it won't be 1080p on consoles.

This is EA were talking about. Of course it won't be 1080p on consoles.

NFS is 1080p.

The isuse is that keeping a game like Battlefield/front at 60 frames at 1080p is an issue for consoles. Plus, it seems Frostbite doesn't like to play nice with them.

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I'm more intrigued by the game's sound, they seem to have gotten that part right so far

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#32  Edited By Epak_
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Delete this.

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@xhawk27 said:

So let me understand this... If a game is 900p on the Xbox One it's a joke but if it's on the PS4 at that resolution it's fine?

I think it's more that the PS4 will run at a higher resolution. So if the game is 900p on PS4 it will run at 720 or some other odd resolution on the Xbox One. Certainly not always the case and it depends on the game.

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#34  Edited By PAL360
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@deadline-zero0 said:

well duh. If it's going for 60fps, it won't be 1080p on consoles.

What about Advanced Warfare, Project Cars, Mortal Kombat X, Phantom Pain, etc?

900p is a design option (a bad one, in my opinion). Good thing very few devs still believe that 900p is acceptable.

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#35 Epak_
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What the hell are they doing?

@freedomfreak said:

Wouldn't be surprised considering BF4 was also 900P.

Oh, I thought it was 1080p, my world is fallin' apart!

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#36 DEadliNE-Zero0
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@PAL360 said:
@deadline-zero0 said:

well duh. If it's going for 60fps, it won't be 1080p on consoles.

What about Advanced Warfare, Project Cars, Mortal Kombat X, Phantom Pain, etc?

900p is a design option (a bad one, in my opinion). Good thing very few devs still believe that 900p is acceptable.

Project Cars doesn't keep a steady 60 frames.

AW isn't THAT graphically impressive and the other 2 are running on last gen systems fine. They look good, obviously, but the cross gen-"ness" is easy to spot.

A more accurate comparison is how even Naughty "Gods" backpedalled about 60fps after the E3 2014 reveal.

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@ProtossX said:
@ShadowDeathX said:

Kind of expected and I see no issue with it. DICE are dedicating some of the Compute Units on the Xbox One and PS4 GPU to make-up for that "Designed for Tablets" CPU.

PS4 = 900p

Xbox One = 720p

you see no issue with 900p...yet every week we get a new game thats 900p on xbone and every person is bashing it.

we got websites all bashing 900p on xb1 all day long.

MY TV is 1080p My monitor 1080p this is 2015 the year of GTX titans doing 4k

im not impressed with 900p visually so no don't you don't see issue with this when everyone else does on every media site an users on here slam every week when a new game comes out

So yes if I teleported back in time and my tv was 900p i would be fine with 900p resolution the issue my tv is 1080p thats its resolution its not going to change it is what it is period.

Take your pick;

  • Get the game as advanced as it is. 60 frames per second target and 900p.
  • Get a similar level of a game at an inconsistent 20 - 30 frames per second and 1080p.
  • Get a dumbed down version of the game with lower fidelity physics, AI, map size, particle effects, audio, etc at 1080p/60fps

People have to be realistic. The Frostbite engine is already super optimized for what it is. You can't expect DICE to be able run such a game like Battlefield or Battlefront, uncompromised on a low-powered designed CPU. They have to take some of the CU on the GPU to make up the difference.

So yes, I have no issue with this.

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#38 gpuking
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That's one less sale from me then. 900p is just not ideal for my tv.

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#39  Edited By PAL360
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@deadline-zero0 said:
@PAL360 said:
@deadline-zero0 said:

well duh. If it's going for 60fps, it won't be 1080p on consoles.

What about Advanced Warfare, Project Cars, Mortal Kombat X, Phantom Pain, etc?

900p is a design option (a bad one, in my opinion). Good thing very few devs still believe that 900p is acceptable.

Project Cars doesn't keep a steady 60 frames.

AW isn't THAT graphically impressive and the other 2 are running on last gen systems fine. They look good, obviously, but the cross gen-"ness" is easy to spot.

A more accurate comparison is how even Naughty "Gods" backpedalled about 60fps after the E3 2014 reveal.

All of them managed to run at native 1080p and aimed at 60fps. Some more stable than others, but that also happens on PC.

AW is the first CoD game in years that actually looked nice.

Project Cars looks good and manages to keep over 40 cars on track.

MKX is probably the best looking fighting game out.

Phantom Pain is an open world game. At least Ground Zeroes managed to run at rock solid 60fps.

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#40 lundy86_4
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Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the final product runs at 900p. C'est la vie.

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#41 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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1080p doesn't matter anymore. All that matters now is that the PS4 version is at a higher resolution than the Xbox One version.

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#42 Ribstaylor1
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The fact 1080p isn't standard by now in game is fucking pathetic. I've had a 1080p screen for more then 10 fucking years.

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#43 PAL360
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@GoldenElementXL said:

1080p doesn't matter anymore. All that matters now is that the PS4 version is at a higher resolution than the Xbox One version.

I'm not really interested in PS4 vs X1 'war'. Both consoles are pretty good.

All current gen games should run in full HD, despite running at 30 or 60fps, though.

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#44 tdkmillsy
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If they run at a lower resolution to do more on screen that makes it look or be a better game I'm all for it.

Sacrifices need to be made on both consoles. If you don't want to sacrifice buy a decent PC.

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#45 BlueEyedCasva
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Something tells me EA can't keep their word

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@GoldenElementXL said:

1080p doesn't matter anymore. All that matters now is that the PS4 version is at a higher resolution than the Xbox One version.

and the PC version gives those Titans something to do

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#47  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@PAL360 said:

That's ridiculous. No game at this point should run at sub1080p.

they could just cap the game at 30 fps and give that all important cinematic experience

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#48  Edited By PAL360
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@04dcarraher:

Hmm...i hope you are not assuming that i prefer 30fps over 60fps lol

When 1080p60 is not possible, i prefer 1080p at locked 30fps over 720/900p at 60fps any day. The Witcher 3 and Batman AK are good examples of how it should be done. They look amazing and play perfectly well.

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#49  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@PAL360 said:

@04dcarraher:

Hmm...i hope you are not assuming that i prefer 30fps over 60fps lol

When 1080p60 is not possible, i prefer 1080p at locked 30fps over 720/900p at 60fps any day. The Witcher 3 and Batman AK are good examples of how it should be done. They look amazing and play perfectly well.

For an FPS running at a unstable frame rate or even at a locked 30 fps is worse then running at a lower resolution running a solid 60fps.

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#50 PAL360
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@04dcarraher:

I disagree, assuming that the framerate never/rarely drops from 30, of course.

I'm mostly a singleplayer gamer, so that explains why i prefer image quality. I can understand why competitive mp gamers could trade everything for a better framerate, though.