Are We Too Quick to Judge the Kinect?

The hardcore gamer hates the Kinect. I don't own one. I never thought I'd be interested in it. However, Kinect 2.0 has me intrigued. Let me tell you why:

1. The Kinect will recognize you and your control scheme mid game without having to back out of the game or go to the menus. This is great for tournament play. 

2. If you say something in-game during DR3, zombies will come after you. (Imagine a game like Assassin's Creed where you're in the corner and you can whistle someone over in real life to knife them). 

3. It can take a full model of your dome-piece (head/face) in under a minute. 

4. It can recognize slight turns of the wrist. 

5. Quicker navigation

6. Skype integration

However, I'm also quite cautious. Not many games have utilized this Kinect. Many games are multiplatform releases so the Kinect funcitonality won't be there or will only play a small factor (voice recognition). Also, the whole NSA bit but let's be honest. Nobody cares about what you guys are doing on the Xbox. Nobody is really going to go out of their way to listen to some 11 year old privileged white kid trying to be MLG in COD, calling his opponents gay/racist slurs. But what perplexes me the most is the ability of developers to adapt to this new hardware. There will be a solid install base that would appeal to most first-party developers. Consider a third person RPG where you can control a character who looks just like you. You can literally walk around the world as yourself with armor on. Because essentially the Kinect can determine BMI and all that good stuff. It's not about what the Kinect was advertised as in the past. It's about what it is now and where it's going in the future. It had to be advertised as a gimmick because it was a gimmick on the 360. It didn't work that well. It was too expensive. 

I'm not going to sit here and do Microsoft's job. They're the ones who have to convince you all about the benefits of using the Kinect. However, I think that the internet never really thinks about much in a broader sense. I don't think people see the far-reaching implications about the first-party use of the Kinect. It could be a nice tool for the future. I do wish the console was cheaper though. Thanks for your time. Good day. 

No Kinect sucks.

Yup. Kinect is the future.

PC modders are doing some awesome stuff with it.

i think in 10 years from now, the kinect is something that will be a new standard for gaming.

however, right now, forcing it on people is not the best way to introduce it.

 

1. The Kinect will recognize you and your control scheme mid game without having to back out of the game or go to the menus. This is great for tournament play. 

2. If you say something in-game during DR3, zombies will come after you. (Imagine a game like Assassin's Creed where you're in the corner and you can whistle someone over in real life to knife them). 

3. It can take a full model of your dome-piece (head/face) in under a minute. 

4. It can recognize slight turns of the wrist. 

5. Quicker navigation

6. Skype integration

Gama_Forever

And not one of the above is worth an extra $100.00.

No Kinect sucks.

NathanDrakeSwag

[QUOTE="Gama_Forever"]

 

1. The Kinect will recognize you and your control scheme mid game without having to back out of the game or go to the menus. This is great for tournament play. 

2. If you say something in-game during DR3, zombies will come after you. (Imagine a game like Assassin's Creed where you're in the corner and you can whistle someone over in real life to knife them). 

3. It can take a full model of your dome-piece (head/face) in under a minute. 

4. It can recognize slight turns of the wrist. 

5. Quicker navigation

6. Skype integration

muffin200

And not one of the above is worth an extra $100.00.

Not one but all of them plus a whole lot more is easy worth $100.

There isn't a single game I neither want nor want more because of Kinect.

I don't care and have never cared about Kinect.

I don't know why but the name Kinect reminds me of some pet birds, or just a zoo in overall. Maybe it's because of that Kinectimals game. 

i just think the kinect announcement was ill-timed with the nsa controversy.

System Wars judges everything without any knowledge or experience.

There isn't a single game I neither want nor want more because of Kinect.

I don't care and have never cared about Kinect.

wiifan001

But what about the future? What if Skyping someone during Madden and then telling the Xbox to record the last play of the Super Bowl game in Madden's Connected Careers Mode without ever having to back out of a menu became a real thing that people did? What if a scary game saw your fear/emotions (Kinect can project your emotions on your avatar in game so if you smile in real life your avatar will also smile) and adjusted to said fear/emotions? What if in the single player game of The Walking Dead, the last part of the story involved a standoff and the guy on the other end saw your fear and pulled the trigger on you or your companion? There are things that can be done if the install base is there.

i just think the kinect announcement was ill-timed with the nsa controversy.

drekula2

This is probably it's biggest failure.

Got a System that cost $100 more but can't promote the reason it's $100 more due to the NSA implications that come with it.

As a last gen and this gen xbox ONLY gamer (besides some PC here and there) I hate the Kinect. With every fiber of my being. Microsoft used the Kinect as a way to segue from quote en quote "hardcore gaming" to casual games like Kinectimals. Every E3 since Kinect has came out (except this past one) has been centered around Kinect. It made Xbox a joke. Now that's the past moving forward all those things you named that it can do I have 0 interest in. My controller or keyboard and mouse does everything I want it to do in and out of game. I don't need some stupid gimmick coming along and making me sound like some crazy person talking to myself. "xbox watch a movie" "xbox sports" "xbox play my game for me" excuse my language but f*ck that.

[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

There isn't a single game I neither want nor want more because of Kinect.

I don't care and have never cared about Kinect.

Gama_Forever

But what about the future? What if Skyping someone during Madden and then telling the Xbox to record the last play of the Super Bowl game in Madden's Connected Careers Mode without ever having to back out of a menu became a real thing that people did? What if a scary game saw your fear/emotions (Kinect can project your emotions on your avatar in game so if you smile in real life your avatar will also smile) and adjusted to said fear/emotions? What if in the single player game of The Walking Dead, the last part of the story involved a standoff and the guy on the other end saw your fear and pulled the trigger on you or your companion? There are things that can be done if the install base is there.

MS has had yer to show what they can do with kinect and they failed miserably. Kinect 2 is nothing more than a spy device.Rattlesnake_8

It's not so much that Kinect is good or bad, it's that it's being forced on us.

If it was a seperate product you can optionally buy, I don't have much problem with it.

Being forced to buy it as a package is a non-starter, I have no desire to yell at my tv or have a webcam in my living room.

I don't think Kinect is terrible or even bad. But I just have no interest in it.

I'm still annoyed that Microsoft forces you to purchase the Kinect with the system. If they offered a cheaper version without the Kinect then I'd probably change my mind (still wouldn't be until next year at least).

My oldest son loves the Kinect, and Kinect Sports has replaced Wii Sports as the go to party game for family gatherings. It is a really big hit for my family. I'll admit the traditional game support is lacking and the voice commands are cool up until the first time you're watching a show that keeps rewinding itself because a character on screen triggered the Kinect. What people around here have to understand though is there are a lot of people in America with families who would rather have a 360 in their living room because of the added family friendly features than people who just need another BluRay player with better graphics. HadOne2Many

No Kinect sucks.

NathanDrakeSwag

So sayeth Mr. Super-Moo-Cow.

Seriously, why do you post in these threads? When have you *EVER* said anything positive about Microsoft?

[QUOTE="HadOne2Many"]My oldest son loves the Kinect, and Kinect Sports has replaced Wii Sports as the go to party game for family gatherings. It is a really big hit for my family. I'll admit the traditional game support is lacking and the voice commands are cool up until the first time you're watching a show that keeps rewinding itself because a character on screen triggered the Kinect. What people around here have to understand though is there are a lot of people in America with families who would rather have a 360 in their living room because of the added family friendly features than people who just need another BluRay player with better graphics. rjdofu

What's the point for all of that if I cannot play it in my tiny room?rjdofu

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="HadOne2Many"]My oldest son loves the Kinect, and Kinect Sports has replaced Wii Sports as the go to party game for family gatherings. It is a really big hit for my family. I'll admit the traditional game support is lacking and the voice commands are cool up until the first time you're watching a show that keeps rewinding itself because a character on screen triggered the Kinect. What people around here have to understand though is there are a lot of people in America with families who would rather have a 360 in their living room because of the added family friendly features than people who just need another BluRay player with better graphics. HadOne2Many

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]What's the point for all of that if I cannot play it in my tiny room?blue_hazy_basic

The first Kinect was not very good but they are doing awesome stuff with Kinect 2. I think it is gonna surprise people.

No Kinect sucks.

NathanDrakeSwag

useless gimmick spycam, id rather play with my controller than move my arms like an idiot.

My oldest son loves the Kinect, and Kinect Sports has replaced Wii Sports as the go to party game for family gatherings. It is a really big hit for my family. I'll admit the traditional game support is lacking and the voice commands are cool up until the first time you're watching a show that keeps rewinding itself because a character on screen triggered the Kinect. What people around here have to understand though is there are a lot of people in America with families who would rather have a 360 in their living room because of the added family friendly features than people who just need another BluRay player with better graphics.HadOne2Many

This is very true. Not sure how many people there are on here with families, but I know my wife really enjoys the Kinect and we've had lots of laughs playing dance central. My son just turned 1 so he's a bit young yet, but I'm sure by the time he is 4 or 5 he would love something like the Kinect. I could see it being a family fun type thing for us.

Outside of that, I think the tech is awesome ad since its bundled with the console devs can rely on it being there and therefore would be more compelled to create some awesome Kinect features in games. I don't see it as a negative at all.

Lots of people here just lump it in with the other motion control solutions like Wii and PSMove (LOL, cows never want to acknowledge that abomination). Its much more than that.

[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="HadOne2Many"] They're not forcing you to buy anything. HadOne2Many

"If you want our next console, you have to buy that piece of hardware along with the console, regardless of how unimportant it is to you", if that's not forcing customers, I don't know what is. Forcing means not offering a choice.

[QUOTE="Rattlesnake_8"]MS has had yer to show what they can do with kinect and they failed miserably. Kinect 2 is nothing more than a spy device.blackgamer1213

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]What's the point for all of that if I cannot play it in my tiny room?blue_hazy_basic

I am pretty excited for it

The hardcore gamer hates the Kinect. I don't own one. I never thought I'd be interested in it. However, Kinect 2.0 has me intrigued. Let me tell you why:

1. The Kinect will recognize you and your control scheme mid game without having to back out of the game or go to the menus. This is great for tournament play.

2. If you say something in-game during DR3, zombies will come after you. (Imagine a game like Assassin's Creed where you're in the corner and you can whistle someone over in real life to knife them).

3. It can take a full model of your dome-piece (head/face) in under a minute.

4. It can recognize slight turns of the wrist.

5. Quicker navigation

6. Skype integration

Gama_Forever

Well kinect has been out for 3 years now. In those 3 years no one has been able to integrate it into any of 100+ games it has support for in any meangingful way. No one ever said "Oh man now I can say 'throw grenade' instead of having to push a button!" And it has had 3 years to make a game, any game that is kinect required that could be more than a pile of shit. The only games kinect has ever done anything with that was useful was dancing games. So if they cant do anything with it in 3 years how is a new version going to help?

1) How many gamers that will buy an xbox one with the kinect will take it to a tournament to set it up for the express purpose of not having to load their profile using the controller?

2) You could do that already with the current kinect, its simply just using the microphone. The wiiu, 3ds and vita all have built in microphones in them but no one really bothered with that as a selling point because its stupid.

3) I dont see how this is a feature or worth mentioning as a selling point.

4) See number 3.

5) As opposed to just using the controller that requires virtually no thought and is faster than swiping your arm through the air?

6) Skype is for video and audio chat. The kinect has no use in that really unless its to navigate a menu in which case see my response to 5.

That is just a really sad list of "features" that are supposed to convince people to use the kinect. You really were scraping the bottom of the barrel for those.

Will be great to create a boxer in fight night with a model of my face thanks to the wonderous next gen technology that is the kinect 2.0

No, it doesn't have a place in gaming.

[QUOTE="HadOne2Many"][QUOTE="rjdofu"] Except the fact that most games (which is the real meat of a GAMING console) will function absolutely fine without the Kinect. Kinect is an add on which improve other functionality that many don't care about. "If you want our next console, you have to buy that piece of hardware along with the console", if that's not forcing customers, I don't know what is. Forcing means not offering a choice.rjdofu

That would be your opinion. One that is not shared by everyone.

You don't have to buy the XOne and that is the option he's talking about. Don't want Kinect, don't buy the XOne. Kinect is integrated into the XOne and it part of it. It is no longer an add on but something tells me you weren't getting an XOne anyway.

I don't want to be the controller. I want to hold the controller like I always have. So I have no interest in Kinect. I also have no interest in Move/Eye Toy either.

The technology is great. It's being used for dick all, though.