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#1 mccoyca112
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Pretty good list. I made a comment on there myself about #3 and how I think it should be #2; It may rather obvious to us, but it's good to see it not being forgotten.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54s_jyjMUxY

It's a long winded video checking in at 30 minutes, so for those of you not willing to watch despite the lols to be had. The list:

[spoiler]

10. Tomb raider "rape"/hitman "nun" marketing
9. Diablo "error 37"
8. War Z scandal
7. Bayonetta 2 wii exclusive
6. Capcom Dlc Saga
5. "38 Studios"
4. Sega Copyright Claims(This one is really bizarre)
3. Doritogate & gaming journalism
2. Mass Effect 3 ending
1. Arma 2 dev imprisonment
[/spoiler]

Fixed link.

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#2 bbkkristian
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1 should be Operation Rainfall. Or was that2011?
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#3 Da_Koolio_Gamer
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I agree with arresting on 1.

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#4 freedomfreak
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I heard this thing about Borderlands 2 regarding something called "Girlfriend mode". What was that about?
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#5 Blabadon
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WarZ not number 1? What?
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#6 Goyoshi12
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I'm glad he included the arrest and while a horrible act on the Greek governments part I don't know if it should be at Number 1.

Now War Z on the other hand if he perhaps took a bit of a deeper look into just how much of a scandal the game is I think would have been a bit higher on the list.

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#7 DoomZaW
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WarZ not number 1? What?Blabadon

Well to be fair, the WarZ scandal doesnt exactly detain people.

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#8 mccoyca112
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I heard this thing about Borderlands 2 regarding something called "Girlfriend mode". What was that about?freedomfreak

Quick view.

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#9 Kuromino  Moderator
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The "Sega Copyright Claims" is insane. A few channels that I follow on YouTube were marked (some got marked twice) because they had a video where they are discussing a game made by Sega. In every case, the videos spoke nothing but praise for these games. Crazy that some people came close to losing their YouTube account because of this.

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#10 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]I heard this thing about Borderlands 2 regarding something called "Girlfriend mode". What was that about?mccoyca112

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I see. Not that big a deal to me. Thanks for the link though :D
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#11 Goyoshi12
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The "Sega Copyright Claims" is insane. A few channels that I follow on YouTube were marked (some got marked twice) because they had a video where they are discussing a game made by Sega. In every case, the videos spoke nothing but praise for these games. Crazy that some people came close to losing their YouTube account because of this.

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Why are they even doing this? I mean...why? For the past couple of years there's been nothing wrong with discussing Sega or its games so why change it this year? It's SOPA all over again except it's Sega this time around.

Was it because of Joe's review of Sonic Free Riders? Oh, Sega!:roll:

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#12 finalfantasy94
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I dont get the uproar on the tomb raider vid. I mean she was fighting back and shows she can handle herself. I wonder if lara was replaced with a dude with the same exact situation if the same reaction would have happend.

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#13 KalDurenik
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#1 is sick... that they are still in jail is... it should be illegal.
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#14 1PMrFister
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1 should be Operation Rainfall. Or was that2011?bbkkristian
That mostly fizzled out early this year when The Last Story was confirmed for a US release. In any case, a campaign to get games localized shouldn't be more controversial than people getting thrown in jail.

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#15 faizan_faizan
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#1 is sick... that they are still in jail is... it should be illegal.KalDurenik
Yea i agree, I wonder when ArmA III get's released.
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#16 Clock-w0rk
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Respect for putting Arma devs at #1 and Dorito Geoff/game journalists on the list.

Angry Joe is legit.

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#17 faizan_faizan
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Respect for putting Arma devs at #1 and Dorito Geoff/game journalists on the list.

Angry Joe is legit.

Clock-w0rk
I agree, At first i thought he is another YouTube whore but this video changed my mind.
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That IS a pretty good lost. I have no problems with it, and no.1 is deserved, it's just stupid at this point.

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#19 BrunoBRS
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he's freaking out over bayo 2 lol.
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#20 yellosnolvr
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this list just reminded me of how stupid greece is right now for keeping them in jail this long. its also delaying arma 3 so bad, which makes me even angrier.
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#21 AmayaPapaya
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Those guys are still in jail? Wow that's terrible. I hope something is done soon...That's too long.

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#22 cfstar
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Good vid, he brings up some good points. It's good that he's branching out on his video, he's never done this before.
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#23 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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WarZ not number 1? What?Blabadon
It's just a crappy game made by crappy devs. It's famous for the same reasion big rigs is. It's not exactly big news like people being arreseted.

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#24 Crazyguy105
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he's freaking out over bayo 2 lol.BrunoBRS

to be fair, a lot of people freaked out over it.

1. most people weren't expecting a sequel to Bayonetta.

2. they weren't expecting it to be exclusive on a Nintendo platform.

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#25 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"]WarZ not number 1? What?toast_burner

It's just a crappy game made by crappy devs. It's famous for the same reasion big rigs is. It's not exactly big news like people being arreseted.

.....just a bad game? Try "Biggest Scandal of the Year," this game can't even be compared to Big Rigs. Big Rigs was a bad game but it was nowhere the shady, money grubby, whore bucket that was War Z.

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#26 ShadowMoses900
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I didn't find any of these events that controversial.

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#27 cfstar
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I didn't find any of these events that controversial.

ShadowMoses900

The involvement of the Czech government to take back it's civilians or the sueing of Bioware for supposed false marketing, etc, is not enough for you?

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#28 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]he's freaking out over bayo 2 lol.Crazyguy105

to be fair, a lot of people freaked out over it.

1. most people weren't expecting a sequel to Bayonetta.

2. they weren't expecting it to be exclusive on a Nintendo platform.

yeah, but it's pretty clear why it happened, and he even mentions it on the video, but he acts as if nintendo is stealing the game from him.
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#29 Vaasman
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I didn't find any of these events that controversial.

ShadowMoses900

I agree how could anyone see holding normal citizens unjustly in prison as controversial. Or false advertising, that's not controversial at all.

[spoiler] /sarcasm [/spoiler]

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#30 mccoyca112
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I didn't find any of these events that controversial.

cfstar

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#31 clyde46
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The part about the Mt Dew adverts was awesome.
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#32 Timstuff
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"Dorito Gate" probably pisses me off more than anything else. It makes me feel like the enitre industry needs to go through some kind of apocalypse to purge us of the current establishment of journalists and publishers. Maybe we're one crappy Dorito Mountain Dew Edition away from customers finally abandoning ship.
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#33 clyde46
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"Dorito Gate" probably pisses me off more than anything else. It makes me feel like the enitre industry needs to go through some kind of apocalypse to purge us of the current establishment of journalists and publishers. Maybe we're one crappy Dorito Mountain Dew Edition away from customers finally abandoning ship.Timstuff
I doubt that will happen. Too many Bro gamers out there who need their gaming fuel. To be honest, the gaming press is a joke anyway. You cant say what you really think of a game because it will offend the dev or publisher and we saw what happened when someone did. I used to read Kotatu but then it turned into to some sudo hipster site that is terrible to navigate.
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#34 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]"Dorito Gate" probably pisses me off more than anything else. It makes me feel like the enitre industry needs to go through some kind of apocalypse to purge us of the current establishment of journalists and publishers. Maybe we're one crappy Dorito Mountain Dew Edition away from customers finally abandoning ship.clyde46
I doubt that will happen. Too many Bro gamers out there who need their gaming fuel. To be honest, the gaming press is a joke anyway. You cant say what you really think of a game because it will offend the dev or publisher and we saw what happened when someone did. I used to read Kotatu but then it turned into to some sudo hipster site that is terrible to navigate.

I do not like the term "bro gamer." A bro gamer in my mind is just play a bro who games. "Gramer" or "Dudebro gamer" is the oppropriate term. The word "bro" does not need to be dragged through the mud for the sake of (inocorrectly) labeling an annoying subsection of gaming culture.

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#35 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]"Dorito Gate" probably pisses me off more than anything else. It makes me feel like the enitre industry needs to go through some kind of apocalypse to purge us of the current establishment of journalists and publishers. Maybe we're one crappy Dorito Mountain Dew Edition away from customers finally abandoning ship.Timstuff

I doubt that will happen. Too many Bro gamers out there who need their gaming fuel. To be honest, the gaming press is a joke anyway. You cant say what you really think of a game because it will offend the dev or publisher and we saw what happened when someone did. I used to read Kotatu but then it turned into to some sudo hipster site that is terrible to navigate.

I do not like the term "bro gamer." A bro gamer in my mind is just play a bro who games. "Gramer" or "Dudebro gamer" is the oppropriate term. The word "bro" does not need to be dragged through the mud for the sake of (inocorrectly) labeling an annoying subsection of gaming culture.

To late.

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#36 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] I doubt that will happen. Too many Bro gamers out there who need their gaming fuel. To be honest, the gaming press is a joke anyway. You cant say what you really think of a game because it will offend the dev or publisher and we saw what happened when someone did. I used to read Kotatu but then it turned into to some sudo hipster site that is terrible to navigate. Goyoshi12

I do not like the term "bro gamer." A bro gamer in my mind is just play a bro who games. "Gramer" or "Dudebro gamer" is the oppropriate term. The word "bro" does not need to be dragged through the mud for the sake of (inocorrectly) labeling an annoying subsection of gaming culture.

To late.

I will still rebuke anyone who I see using the term, because they are wrong and I am right.
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#37 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I do not like the term "bro gamer." A bro gamer in my mind is just play a bro who games. "Gramer" or "Dudebro gamer" is the oppropriate term. The word "bro" does not need to be dragged through the mud for the sake of (inocorrectly) labeling an annoying subsection of gaming culture.

Timstuff

To late.

I will still rebuke anyone who I see using the term, because they are wrong and I am right.

If you know anything about bros and gaming then you know it's to late.

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#38 clyde46
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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I do not like the term "bro gamer." A bro gamer in my mind is just play a bro who games. "Gramer" or "Dudebro gamer" is the oppropriate term. The word "bro" does not need to be dragged through the mud for the sake of (inocorrectly) labeling an annoying subsection of gaming culture.

Timstuff

To late.

I will still rebuke anyone who I see using the term, because they are wrong and I am right.

Now you sound like a consolite :P
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#40 Timstuff
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Going back to the topic of bad game journalism, the fact of the matter is that if the big game journalism sources want to be chained to the publisher, then it might be time we got rid of the game journalism establishment. If publishers don't want to send out review copies or preview copies to independent game reviewers, then they will have to stop badgering us into buying a game on launch day because we won't buy them without reading reviews.

The entire game journalism system is an outdated, broken dinosaur. It served its purpose back when game reviews came from magazines, and the games had to be printed on cartridges as preview builds months in advance, but those days are over. You can read a game review online and then download it through steam in a matter of minutes, so we do not need these elaborate arrangements between publishers and journalism anymore-- in fact, if you actually offer legit criticism, you will pretty much be an outcast in the big journalism crowd.

We need to move to a model where independent game reviewers like Angry Joe review games without any influence from the outside. He buys all of the games he reviews, and maybe I have to wait a few days longer to see his review than at IGN, but at least I know he hasn't been bought off. He actually sticks it to the big publishers when they do something bad, because he is not afraid of losing his perks (of which he has none). The Big Press cannot be trusted anymore, and in a day when any bloke with a microphone can make a video review and put it on youtube, they are not needed anymore either. Eventually enough people will realize this that bought and paid for good press will no longer be profitable to publish, and the publications that are knee-deep in this scandal will die out.

When your livelihood revolves around people trusting your reviews, there's no such thing as a gaming journal that is "too big to fail." When the paradigm shift involving how people get their reviews has finished, the sources that survive will be the ones like Angry Joe who were not dependant on the cooperation of the people whose products he is reviewing in order to make money.

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#41 Timstuff
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[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

To late.

Goyoshi12

I will still rebuke anyone who I see using the term, because they are wrong and I am right.

If you know anything about bros and gaming then you know it's to late.

I have three actual brothers so to me the word has a different meaning (the correct one).
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#42 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]I will still rebuke anyone who I see using the term, because they are wrong and I am right.Timstuff

If you know anything about bros and gaming then you know it's to late.

I have three actual brothers so to me the word has a different meaning (the correct one).

Yes but in the online world it's done with and it's to late to do anything about it.

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#43 N30F3N1X
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]I heard this thing about Borderlands 2 regarding something called "Girlfriend mode". What was that about?mccoyca112

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God some people are complete and utter imbeciles for getting riled up over something like that.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]he's freaking out over bayo 2 lol.Crazyguy105

to be fair, a lot of people freaked out over it.

1. most people weren't expecting a sequel to Bayonetta.

2. they weren't expecting it to be exclusive on a Nintendo platform.

And three (I'm surprised Joe didn't bring something like this up), Nintendo publishing a "mature oriented" game, which is third party.
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#46 AgentA-Mi6
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This one was a very informative video, i sat through all 3' minutes of it and enjoyed the whole thing, how could they arrest the Arma devs who would bomb Greece? Why would American or British game developers care about their filthy Military Bases with military hardware from the 60s.

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#47 Sagem28
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WarZ should have been higher.

Good vid though.

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#48 Gibsonsg527
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I pretty much agree with everything on the list. I like angry joe, he is always honest to his viewers.

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#49 Sagem28
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This one was a very informative video, i sat through all 3' minutes of it and enjoyed the whole thing, how could they arrest the Arma devs who would bomb Greece? Why would American or British game developers care about their filthy Military Bases with military hardware from the 60s.

AgentA-Mi6

Greece gonna Greece

They desperately try to focus any media attention on anything besides their own inadequacy.

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#50 Timstuff
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I pretty much agree with everything on the list. I like angry joe, he is always honest to his viewers.

Gibsonsg527

That is something that gaming journalism could use a whole lot more of. Especially with doufuses like Geoff "Dorito" Keighley having so much sway in mainstream gaming journalism.

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