A note for console gamers about 4k

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#1 demi0227_basic
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In the Master Race, we consider 4k to be 4k/60fps. If your' computer can run games at 4k/30fps, it can't do 4k...it's capable of doing 2k. Half the pixel information over time is missing compared to 4k/60fps.

Just wanted to let you guys know, because I'm fully aware there is a definition bifurcation when it comes to "4k" for pc players, and console players.

Please...rage, discuss...but most importantly, have some fun.

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#2  Edited By m3Boarder32
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That’s because PC Gamers game on shitty little LCD monitors with crap response times. Even the 144hz LCD’s have shit response times that cause motion blur and black object smearing.

60+ FPS will help, but a turds still a turd

OLED HDR Master Race checking in

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#3  Edited By Xabiss
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So much fun to argue over pixels!

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I’d love to join the master racers. But with all this bitcoin brouhaha there is no way I’m pay £600+ for a 1070 to replace my aging 570.

I wonder if the master racers are committed enough to PC gaming to pay the massive premium to keep up.

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Literally nobody cares.

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#7 m3Boarder32
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PS: HDR > 4K

X1X HDR Support > PC HDR Support

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#8 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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@m3Boarder32 said:

PS: HDR > 4K

X1X HDR Support > PC HDR Support

60+fps > 30 fps

You missed one...

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A note for Pee Salty Seas... Mighty X1X MonsterBox MasterRace.. lol :P

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#10  Edited By m3Boarder32
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@goldenelementxl said:
@m3Boarder32 said:

PS: HDR > 4K

X1X HDR Support > PC HDR Support

60+fps > 30 fps

You missed one...

You’re right

HDR 30 FPS > SDR 60 FPS

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@m3Boarder32 said:
@goldenelementxl said:

60+fps > 30 fps

You missed one...

You’re right

HDR 30 FPS > SDR 60 FPS

Maybe you should log out of this account and sign in as Giovela so someone will agree with you.

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#13  Edited By m3Boarder32
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@goldenelementxl said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@goldenelementxl said:

60+fps > 30 fps

You missed one...

You’re right

HDR 30 FPS > SDR 60 FPS

Maybe you should log out of this account and sign in as Giovela so someone will agree with you.

nah, told A mod i’d no longer be using the GioVela account After he reset my unjustified -karma

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#14 Juub1990
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@m3Boarder32 said:

You’re right

HDR 30 FPS > SDR 60 FPS

HDR/4K/60fps>HDR/1800p/30fps

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#15  Edited By deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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@Juub1990 said:
@m3Boarder32 said:

You’re right

HDR 30 FPS > SDR 60 FPS

HDR/4K/60fps>HDR/"dynamic" 1800p/30fps target

ftfy

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#16  Edited By Blueberry_Bandit
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I mean I could say that VR users will be running games at 4K x 4K per eye (32 megapixels) 120 Hz in a few years and still have graphics that surpass any other games since it'll be easier to run than 4K (8.3 megapixels) at 60 FPS on a monitor.

You could even say the same thing for PSVR2 on PS5. What are you going to say when those console players are playing at 4K per eye 90 Hz? You'd have to use VR to up them.

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#17 JoshRMeyer
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540p 60fps > 1080p 30fps. Same logic right?

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#18 DrLostRib
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what a bunch of shit

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#19 DrLostRib
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@m3Boarder32 said:
@goldenelementxl said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@goldenelementxl said:

60+fps > 30 fps

You missed one...

You’re right

HDR 30 FPS > SDR 60 FPS

Maybe you should log out of this account and sign in as Giovela so someone will agree with you.

nah, told A mod i’d no longer be using the GioVela account After he reset my unjunstudied -karma

wut?

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@blueberry_bandit said:

I mean I could say that VR users will be running games at 4K x 4K per eye (32 megapixels) 120 Hz in a few years and still have graphics that surpass any other games since it'll be easier to run than 4K (8.3 megapixels) at 60 FPS on a monitor.

You could even say the same thing for PSVR2 on PS5. What are you going to say when those console players are playing at 4K per eye 90 Hz? You'd have to use VR to up them.

But will VR have HDR?

@Juub1990 said:
@m3Boarder32 said:

You’re right

HDR 30 FPS > SDR 60 FPS

HDR/4K/60fps>HDR/1800p/30fps

Twice as many HDR games >

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@drlostrib said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@goldenelementxl said:
@m3Boarder32 said:
@goldenelementxl said:

60+fps > 30 fps

You missed one...

You’re right

HDR 30 FPS > SDR 60 FPS

Maybe you should log out of this account and sign in as Giovela so someone will agree with you.

nah, told A mod i’d no longer be using the GioVela account After he reset my unjunstudied -karma

wut?

editing with phone browser can be a pain, hard to move the cursor sometimes.

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#22 Juub1990
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@m3Boarder32 said:

But will VR have HDR?

Twice as many HDR games >

1,000+games at native 4K/60fps>20 more HDR games/Dynamic FauxK

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@Juub1990 said:
@m3Boarder32 said:

But will VR have HDR?

Twice as many HDR games >

1,000+games at native 4K/60fps>20 more HDR games/Dynamic FauxK

inb4 another deflection.

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@m3Boarder32 said:
@blueberry_bandit said:

I mean I could say that VR users will be running games at 4K x 4K per eye (32 megapixels) 120 Hz in a few years and still have graphics that surpass any other games since it'll be easier to run than 4K (8.3 megapixels) at 60 FPS on a monitor.

You could even say the same thing for PSVR2 on PS5. What are you going to say when those console players are playing at 4K per eye 90 Hz? You'd have to use VR to up them.

But will VR have HDR?

Hard to say when it will happen, but most headsets do use OLED at least.

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100% agree. 4k/60fps it's the best way to sign petitions when begging for games.

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#26 Juub1990
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@phbz: Console can’t even run menus in 4K/60fps so I suppose you’re right.

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@Juub1990: Glad we agree.

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@Juub1990 said:

@phbz: Console can’t even run menus in 4K/60fps so I suppose you’re right.

Why is PC is called the master race when it's missing PS/Nintendo games?

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@phbz said:

100% agree. 4k/60fps it's the best way to sign petitions when begging for games.

Savage AF lmao

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@Juub1990 said:
@m3Boarder32 said:

But will VR have HDR?

Twice as many HDR games >

1,000+games at native 4K/60fps>20 more HDR games/Dynamic FauxK

nope

HDR is King baby!

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#31 Juub1990
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@m3Boarder32 said:

Savage AF lmao

Kinda ironic coming from an Xbox fanboy which has the least amount of games and ended up getting all its current and future AAA games ported to PC lol.

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@Juub1990 said:
@m3Boarder32 said:

Savage AF lmao

Kinda ironic coming from an Xbox fanboy which has the least amount of games and ended up getting all its current and future AAA games ported to PC lol.

Nobody cares about PC because if it’s shit HDR Support

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Um ok then.

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#34  Edited By Juub1990
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@m3Boarder32 said:

Nobody cares about PC because if it’s shit HDR Support

So the tens of thousands of games released this year and in the past are shit because they don't have HDR?

I know you're trolling for the losing side but come on man. Put a bit more effort. The number of HDR games supported on X1X is less than 60. That's a LOT of games that are shit.

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#35  Edited By m3Boarder32
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@Juub1990 said:
@m3Boarder32 said:

Nobody cares about PC because if it’s shit HDR Support

So the tens of thousands of games released this year and in the past are shit because they don't have HDR?

I know you're trolling for the losing side but come on man. Put a bit more effort. The number of HDR games supported on X1X is less than 60. That's a LOT of games that are shit.

You’re clearly mad at your lack of HDR Support On PC.

play some HZD and turn That frown upside down

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#36  Edited By Juub1990
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@m3Boarder32: I beat Horizon: Zero Dawn already. Now I’m playing Assassin’s Creed Origins and next up is Forza 7. After that it’s gonna be FF XV. Funny cause they all have HDR. Still didn’t address the point though. What about those tens of thousands of games with no HDR support?

Since you’re here to troll never mind that though. Also I just schooled you in the other thread regarding Tomb Raider benchmarks.

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@Juub1990: OK now, take me seriously on this. Don't waste money on FFXV! No amount of FPS will make that game good.

Now back to trolling; you better spend your time making a new petition for RDR2 than playing that game.

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Real PC gamer's have higher Hz monitors.

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#39  Edited By Juub1990
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@phbz: It’s gonna come out on PC eventually. Not that I care because I think Rockstar games are trash.

Also

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#40 Johnny-n-Roger
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@PCgameruk said:

Real PC gamer's have higher Hz monitors.

That's not reasonable. Most PC gamers have the bare minimum while most console gamers have $10,000 multimedia set ups.

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#41 PCgameruk
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@Johnny-n-Roger said:
@PCgameruk said:

Real PC gamer's have higher Hz monitors.

That's not reasonable. Most PC gamers have the bare minimum while most console gamers have $10,000 multimedia set ups.

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@PCgameruk said:

Real PC gamer's have higher Hz monitors.

And yet response times are still atrocious

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@Juub1990 said:

@phbz: It’s gonna come out on PC eventually. Not that I care because I think Rockstar games are trash.

Also

Just like RDR. Oh wait you said “not that I care” to save yourself from future embarrassment. Well played

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@m3Boarder32 said:
@PCgameruk said:

Real PC gamer's have higher Hz monitors.

And yet response times are still atrocious

You must be on drugs.

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#45  Edited By Juub1990
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@m3Boarder32 said:

Just like RDR. Oh wait you said “not that I care” to save yourself from future embarrassment. Well played

Yeah I personally don't care but if you wanna play that game two can tango. You're gonna lose if you play the exclusive games and support the X1 in favor of the PC lol. Literally all AAA Xbox One games will come to PC.

Cool, RDR2 is a single game that will very likely come out for PC later. Let's add.

PC in the meantime has a slew of exclusives that will not come to consoles. Better yet, there are more games that come out for PS4/PC or Xbox One/PC than there are games that come out for PS4/Xbox One. You're fighting a losing battle and that's even cheating by having two platforms whereas PC is a single platform. Individually, come on, not even a contest.

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@Johnny-n-Roger said:
@PCgameruk said:

Real PC gamer's have higher Hz monitors.

That's not reasonable. Most PC gamers have the bare minimum while most console gamers have $10,000 multimedia set ups.

Well I dont see either of them posting here. Stick to whats known and not speculated.

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@dxmcat: That was a typo. He meant to say $1.000.000.

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@dxmcat said:
@Johnny-n-Roger said:
@PCgameruk said:

Real PC gamer's have higher Hz monitors.

That's not reasonable. Most PC gamers have the bare minimum while most console gamers have $10,000 multimedia set ups.

Well I dont see either of them posting here. Stick to whats known and not speculated.

Not if it's convenient for my narrative.

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@m3Boarder32 said:

That’s because PC Gamers game on shitty little LCD monitors with crap response times. Even the 144hz LCD’s have shit response times that cause motion blur and black object smearing.

60+ FPS will help, but a turds still a turd

OLED HDR Master Race checking in

lol

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@boycie said:

I’d love to join the master racers. But with all this bitcoin brouhaha there is no way I’m pay £600+ for a 1070 to replace my aging 570.

I wonder if the master racers are committed enough to PC gaming to pay the massive premium to keep up.

Nvidia sells cardsa at MSRP on their site. They seem to only restock once a quarter though.