Manning finally feels what it feels like to be Brady last year

yeah but with a b list of receivers last year, brady could still produce.piper77

And Brady didn't have a wideout named Craphonso Thorpe who actually played a minute. #15.

Anyhow, I'd still argue that Manning's weapons this year are better than Brady's last year. I think its just a case of Manning being without his two safety valves (Clark and Harrison). He really hasn't been without Harrison or a stud TE during his peak.

Everyone has a bad game, even Peyton Manning.sfgiantsfan8291

Manning doesn't throw 5 INTs when he has the weapons. Last one was all on him though, but I doubt he throw it right to the defender if he had Clark or Harrison.

[QUOTE="sfgiantsfan8291"]Everyone has a bad game, even Peyton Manning.dkhw

Manning doesn't throw 5 INTs when he has the weapons. Last one was all on him though, but I doubt he throw it right to the defender if he had Clark or Harrison.

It's not just having b list recievers. When Brady had them, he practiced with them every day. At least he was on the same page with them. Manning is not used to playing without Harrison, Clark, or playing with Thorpe or Fletcher. Saying that, he played really bad most of the game. But hey, Brady last year threw 4 interceptions against the dolphins. These people are humans and they have bad games once in awhile.

I won't turn this into a Brady vs Manning arguement like some people are trying to do.

Everyone has a bad game, even Peyton Manning.sfgiantsfan8291

True, I mean this could be his bad game, and for example Romo had the bills game, Andersen had the first Steelers game..... You can't be perfect all year, maybe Brady's will come in the playoffs.

Just shows how bad a year SD is having, 5 ints by manning and Colts are 1st and goal with 2 mins left and only down by 2.mrgab

never mind, he didnt get the first

I swear, if the Colts lose this game somehow, I will crap my pants in happiness rudyfan04

How did he miss that kick :lol:

Wow. Vinetieri's clutchness is gone.manningbowl135

Well, lets see if Manning still has his. 22 seconds left.

[QUOTE="dkhw"]

[QUOTE="sfgiantsfan8291"]Everyone has a bad game, even Peyton Manning.manningbowl135

Manning doesn't throw 5 INTs when he has the weapons. Last one was all on him though, but I doubt he throw it right to the defender if he had Clark or Harrison.

It's not just having b list recievers. When Brady had them, he practiced with them every day. At least he was on the same page with them. Manning is not used to playing without Harrison, Clark, or playing with Thorpe or Fletcher. Saying that, he played really bad most of the game. But hey, Brady last year threw 4 interceptions against the dolphins. These people are humans and they have bad games once in awhile.

I won't turn this into a Brady vs Manning arguement like some people are trying to do.

Yeah. I agree with you. All I said was that Manning is finally getting a taste of what it is like without an elite recieving corps.

[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]Wow. Vinetieri's clutchness is gone.limpbizkit818

Well, lets see if Manning still has his. 22 seconds left.

22 seconds, no timeouts, you can't throw to 90% of the field. It's pathetic that Vinetieri missed that. Pathetic.

[QUOTE="manningbowl135"][QUOTE="dkhw"]

[QUOTE="sfgiantsfan8291"]Everyone has a bad game, even Peyton Manning.dkhw

Manning doesn't throw 5 INTs when he has the weapons. Last one was all on him though, but I doubt he throw it right to the defender if he had Clark or Harrison.

It's not just having b list recievers. When Brady had them, he practiced with them every day. At least he was on the same page with them. Manning is not used to playing without Harrison, Clark, or playing with Thorpe or Fletcher. Saying that, he played really bad most of the game. But hey, Brady last year threw 4 interceptions against the dolphins. These people are humans and they have bad games once in awhile.

I won't turn this into a Brady vs Manning arguement like some people are trying to do.

Yeah. I agree with you. All I said was that Manning is finally getting a taste of what it is like without an elite recieving corps.

I was responding to guys like piper and tryfe. Just picked your post for some reason.

Hmm, this reminds of another game earlier this year. Oh yeah, Cowboys vs Bills, and everyone was all on Romo for throwing 5 INTs saying he's trash. Bad games happen to even the best.Bobbles

Actually, it's nothing like the Romo game. You should think before saying something like this. Manning's offense was battered, but Romo's offense was healthy with the exception of Terry Glenn and Romo still managed to screw himself that game.

manning sucks without his receiving corps. 6 ints. can't win! not even with wayne! and the chargers was giving the game away!piper77

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. This was one game. There is no way to know how well Manning will do without an elite core of recievers since he was never without them most of his career.

manning sucks without his receiving corps. 6 ints. can't win! not even with wayne! and the chargers was giving the game away!piper77

I guess I shouldn't have wasted a post on you...

The ratio of Patriots fans who actually make sense on this board is very low. Don't take this as an insult dkhw. You know it's true. I'm obviously not including you in that.

[QUOTE="piper77"]manning sucks without his receiving corps. 6 ints. can't win! not even with wayne! and the chargers was giving the game away!manningbowl135

I guess I shouldn't have wasted a post on you...

The ratio of Patriots fans who actually make sense on this board is very low. Don't take this as an insult dkhw. You know it's true. I'm obviously not including you in that.

Thanks. And also, the weather was extremely bad. If you saw that Philips fumble, you could tell how bad the weather was at San Diego. Add to that Manning didn't have Clark or Harrison, it wasn't suprising that Manning had a bad game, but it was suprising that he got picked off for career high 5 INTs.

What a good game.Just_Osmo

It was. Colts gave us two back-to-back good games.

[QUOTE="Bobbles"]Hmm, this reminds of another game earlier this year. Oh yeah, Cowboys vs Bills, and everyone was all on Romo for throwing 5 INTs saying he's trash. Bad games happen to even the best.dkhw

Actually, it's nothing like the Romo game. You should think before saying something like this. Manning's offense was battered, but Romo's offense was healthy with the exception of Terry Glenn and Romo still managed to screw himself that game.

No one seems to like Romo... I mean he isn't Tom Brady (yet) but he sure the hell isn't a Rex Grossman, he is a good quarterback, and the difference betweenthis SNF gameand the Cowboys game was that the 'Boys actually won, even with Romo's self destruction that week. Watching him in the past weeks, it's obvious that that was a one time thing. Everyone has a bad game.

[QUOTE="Bobbles"]Hmm, this reminds of another game earlier this year. Oh yeah, Cowboys vs Bills, and everyone was all on Romo for throwing 5 INTs saying he's trash. Bad games happen to even the best.dkhw

Actually, it's nothing like the Romo game. You should think before saying something like this. Manning's offense was battered, but Romo's offense was healthy with the exception of Terry Glenn and Romo still managed to screw himself that game.

[QUOTE="sfgiantsfan8291"]Everyone has a bad game, even Peyton Manning.rudyfan04

True, I mean this could be his bad game, and for example Romo had the bills game, Andersen had the first Steelers game..... You can't be perfect all year, maybe Brady's will come in the playoffs.

[QUOTE="dkhw"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"]Hmm, this reminds of another game earlier this year. Oh yeah, Cowboys vs Bills, and everyone was all on Romo for throwing 5 INTs saying he's trash. Bad games happen to even the best.Bobbles

Actually, it's nothing like the Romo game. You should think before saying something like this. Manning's offense was battered, but Romo's offense was healthy with the exception of Terry Glenn and Romo still managed to screw himself that game.

Actually it does matter. Colts started the game with just 17 offensive players. With a battered line that got overwhelmed early on and an unfamiliar recieving corps and a bad, bad weather, Manning should have expected a bad game, but of course not 6 INTs. But Romo playing on a perfect weather, with a perfectly healthy offense, still managed to screw himself. If you think that's the same thing, I think you really should get your brain checked or something.

Everyone has a bad game, even Peyton Manning.sfgiantsfan8291

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="dkhw"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"]Hmm, this reminds of another game earlier this year. Oh yeah, Cowboys vs Bills, and everyone was all on Romo for throwing 5 INTs saying he's trash. Bad games happen to even the best.dkhw

Actually, it's nothing like the Romo game. You should think before saying something like this. Manning's offense was battered, but Romo's offense was healthy with the exception of Terry Glenn and Romo still managed to screw himself that game.

Actually it does matter. Colts started the game with just 17 offensive players. With a battered line that got overwhelmed early on and an unfamiliar recieving corps and a bad, bad weather, Manning should have expected a bad game, but of course not 6 INTs. But Romo playing on a perfect weather, with a perfectly healthy offense, still managed to screw himself. If you think that's the same thing, I think you really should get your brain checked or something.

Everyone has a bad game, even Peyton Manning.sfgiantsfan8291

agreed

Everyone has a bad game huh? You know it would be different if this was Tom Brady throwing six interceptions everyone would be saying hes overrated and that he stinks. While I don't think Manning is either of those it shows how off you can be without great receivers at your disposal.PatsFanVince

Brady threw 4 interceptions against the Dolphins last year and the Patriots lost that game. I didn't hear anyone saying it was anything more than a bad game. If anyone did, they're stupid. These quarterbacks have a proven track record showing they're the best of the best. One game does absolutely nothing to diminish that.

[QUOTE="dkhw"][QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="dkhw"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"]Hmm, this reminds of another game earlier this year. Oh yeah, Cowboys vs Bills, and everyone was all on Romo for throwing 5 INTs saying he's trash. Bad games happen to even the best.Bobbles

Actually, it's nothing like the Romo game. You should think before saying something like this. Manning's offense was battered, but Romo's offense was healthy with the exception of Terry Glenn and Romo still managed to screw himself that game.

Actually it does matter. Colts started the game with just 17 offensive players. With a battered line that got overwhelmed early on and an unfamiliar recieving corps and a bad, bad weather, Manning should have expected a bad game, but of course not 6 INTs. But Romo playing on a perfect weather, with a perfectly healthy offense, still managed to screw himself. If you think that's the same thing, I think you really should get your brain checked or something.

My bad if I sounded like I was dissing Romo, but I am really not. Peyton Manning's bad game was a build-up of different factors in that game while we can say the same for the Romo game. Romo just had a plain bad day while Peyton's game was attributed to different factors. It's quite stupid to disregard the disadvantages that Peyton had to deal with throughout the game and equal that to the Romo game where he had everything, but didn't excute and had a plain bad day.

But here you are, telling me that Romo game and Peyton game was exactly the same. Let's see: banged up line, WR corps comprmised of Moorehead (Career 27 receptions) and Thorpe ( 0 career receptions), and a wet, rainy, slippery weather. You really can't be arguing this. There is nothing to argue about. I gurantee you. If you are getting pressured because of a bange up line and Wayne double, triple teamed and your only option is Moorehead and Thorpe, you are going to have a bad game.

The only one who sucks here is Phillip Rivers and that Chargers offense, after seeing them playing against the Vikes and Colts that offense is pitiful. I guess I was wrong about Rivers, he can't throw for ***!D3s7rUc71oN

Yep. He looked good last year, but he's tanking right now. Eli Manning is looking like Tom Brady compared to Rivers right now.

[QUOTE="D3s7rUc71oN"]The only one who sucks here is Phillip Rivers and that Chargers offense, after seeing them playing against the Vikes and Colts that offense is pitiful. I guess I was wrong about Rivers, he can't throw for ***!dkhw

Yep. He looked good last year, but he's tanking right now. Eli Manning is looking like Tom Brady compared to Rivers right now.

I should quote that. Misleading quote FTW!

[QUOTE="dkhw"]

[QUOTE="D3s7rUc71oN"]The only one who sucks here is Phillip Rivers and that Chargers offense, after seeing them playing against the Vikes and Colts that offense is pitiful. I guess I was wrong about Rivers, he can't throw for ***!manningbowl135

Yep. He looked good last year, but he's tanking right now. Eli Manning is looking like Tom Brady compared to Rivers right now.

I should quote that. Misleading quote FTW!

LOL.

[QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="dkhw"][QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="dkhw"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"]Hmm, this reminds of another game earlier this year. Oh yeah, Cowboys vs Bills, and everyone was all on Romo for throwing 5 INTs saying he's trash. Bad games happen to even the best.dkhw

Actually, it's nothing like the Romo game. You should think before saying something like this. Manning's offense was battered, but Romo's offense was healthy with the exception of Terry Glenn and Romo still managed to screw himself that game.

Actually it does matter. Colts started the game with just 17 offensive players. With a battered line that got overwhelmed early on and an unfamiliar recieving corps and a bad, bad weather, Manning should have expected a bad game, but of course not 6 INTs. But Romo playing on a perfect weather, with a perfectly healthy offense, still managed to screw himself. If you think that's the same thing, I think you really should get your brain checked or something.

My bad if I sounded like I was dissing Romo, but I am really not. Peyton Manning's bad game was a build-up of different factors in that game while we can say the same for the Romo game. Romo just had a plain bad day while Peyton's game was attributed to different factors. It's quite stupid to disregard the disadvantages that Peyton had to deal with throughout the game and equal that to the Romo game where he had everything, but didn't excute and had a plain bad day.

But here you are, telling me that Romo game and Peyton game was exactly the same. Let's see: banged up line, WR corps comprmised of Moorehead (Career 27 receptions) and Thorpe ( 0 career receptions), and a wet, rainy, slippery weather. You really can't be arguing this. There is nothing to argue about. I gurantee you. If you are getting pressured because of a bange up line and Wayne double, triple teamed and your only option is Moorehead and Thorpe, you are going to have a bad game.

[QUOTE="dkhw"][QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="dkhw"][QUOTE="Bobbles"][QUOTE="dkhw"]

[QUOTE="Bobbles"]Hmm, this reminds of another game earlier this year. Oh yeah, Cowboys vs Bills, and everyone was all on Romo for throwing 5 INTs saying he's trash. Bad games happen to even the best.Bobbles

Actually, it's nothing like the Romo game. You should think before saying something like this. Manning's offense was battered, but Romo's offense was healthy with the exception of Terry Glenn and Romo still managed to screw himself that game.

Actually it does matter. Colts started the game with just 17 offensive players. With a battered line that got overwhelmed early on and an unfamiliar recieving corps and a bad, bad weather, Manning should have expected a bad game, but of course not 6 INTs. But Romo playing on a perfect weather, with a perfectly healthy offense, still managed to screw himself. If you think that's the same thing, I think you really should get your brain checked or something.

My bad if I sounded like I was dissing Romo, but I am really not. Peyton Manning's bad game was a build-up of different factors in that game while we can say the same for the Romo game. Romo just had a plain bad day while Peyton's game was attributed to different factors. It's quite stupid to disregard the disadvantages that Peyton had to deal with throughout the game and equal that to the Romo game where he had everything, but didn't excute and had a plain bad day.

But here you are, telling me that Romo game and Peyton game was exactly the same. Let's see: banged up line, WR corps comprmised of Moorehead (Career 27 receptions) and Thorpe ( 0 career receptions), and a wet, rainy, slippery weather. You really can't be arguing this. There is nothing to argue about. I gurantee you. If you are getting pressured because of a bange up line and Wayne double, triple teamed and your only option is Moorehead and Thorpe, you are going to have a bad game.

My bad again. If that was what you were arguing about I agree. Every player has a off-day, but obviously Peyton unluckily picked the wrong time and wrong place to be little off his game.

[QUOTE="D3s7rUc71oN"]The only one who sucks here is Phillip Rivers and that Chargers offense, after seeing them playing against the Vikes and Colts that offense is pitiful. I guess I was wrong about Rivers, he can't throw for ***!dkhw

Yep. He looked good last year, but he's tanking right now. Eli Manning is looking like Tom Brady compared to Rivers right now.

The only positive thing I can take from Rivers being our QB is that we don't have Eli. Thank God for that.