Brady or Manning on your team?

if you had to choose one of them on your team who would it be? i would go with Brady, he is a proven winner(3 superbowl rings) always puts up great stats in the regular season and is an extremely clutch player in the post season.

Manning. He's been more durable and has led some of the most insane comebacks ever. I think if he had better teams around him he would easily have had as many rings as Brady, maybe more.

Mannings, he's just better imo.

Payton Manning

Brady

Manning has an entire team devoted to him that gets him any weapon he wants and he still only has one ring and threw another one away (literally)

Brady on the other hand makes due with what the Pats give him and the year where the Pats actually went out and grabbed him some talent Brady crushed records right and left

I'd take Manning even though Brady is right up there. If he didn't have the injury two years ago I may be taking Brady, but you really can't go wrong with either.

Manning, no doubt

This again? We talked about this like two months ago. Brady.Bobbles

Yup

I'd take Peyton Manning.

Brady

Manning has an entire team devoted to him that gets him any weapon he wants and he still only has one ring and threw another one away (literally)

Brady on the other hand makes due with what the Pats give him and the year where the Pats actually went out and grabbed him some talent Brady crushed records right and left

Jaysonguy

I'll go with Manning.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Brady

Manning has an entire team devoted to him that gets him any weapon he wants and he still only has one ring and threw another one away (literally)

Brady on the other hand makes due with what the Pats give him and the year where the Pats actually went out and grabbed him some talent Brady crushed records right and left

Chutebox

Brady never turned the ball over

Manning on the other hand couldn't take the pressure like he hasn't been able to do his entire career and literally threw the game away for his team

I mean Manning's only important game was dueling Rex Grossman

When they both have weapons Brady throws for more touchdowns and fewer INT's then Manning. Heck when they both have weapons Brady threw more touchdowns, less interceptions, more yards per throw, more yards per game, more yards for the season, and a higher completion percentage.

This is the Montana/Marino argument all over again, the only problem is that the Dolphins tried to let Marino do it all while Manning gets top tier talent in every spot.

Give me Brady, better history in the post season.

Brady won SB's with badass defenses and Manning won a SB without a badass defense. And you're under-estimating Brady's cast support on offense when he used to win SB's. He had a dominant O-Line, he had all day to throw in these SB's. He also had good receivers, I dont care that any of them were top tier quality, but they were reliable and selfless, just think of Trow Brown, Deoin Branch and David Givens. He also good production from his running game in each SB's.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Brady

Manning has an entire team devoted to him that gets him any weapon he wants and he still only has one ring and threw another one away (literally)

Brady on the other hand makes due with what the Pats give him and the year where the Pats actually went out and grabbed him some talent Brady crushed records right and left

Jaysonguy

Brady never turned the ball over

Manning on the other hand couldn't take the pressure like he hasn't been able to do his entire career and literally threw the game away for his team

I mean Manning's only important game was dueling Rex Grossman

When they both have weapons Brady throws for more touchdowns and fewer INT's then Manning. Heck when they both have weapons Brady threw more touchdowns, less interceptions, more yards per throw, more yards per game, more yards for the season, and a higher completion percentage.

This is the Montana/Marino argument all over again, the only problem is that the Dolphins tried to let Marino do it all while Manning gets top tier talent in every spot.

Brady won SB's with badass defenses and Manning won a SB without a badass defense. And you're under-estimating Brady's cast support on offense when he used to win SB's. He had a dominant O-Line, he had all day to throw in these SB's. He also had good receivers, I dont care that any of them were top tier quality, but they were reliable and selfless, just think of Trow Brown, Deoin Branch and David Givens. He also good production from his running game in each SB's.

Darth_Revan_666

Yes, the Pats D in those years was insane. Also, Belichick is one of the best coaches of all time.

People underestimate how important coaching is in the NFL.

Brady. He doesn't throw SB losing picks. He just wins them, well at least 3-4. And his play-off record haunts Peyton's nightmares.

mark sanchez. while we're on this kind of topic again, arod or pujols? nadal or federer? lebron or kobe? derpderpsilky_smooth8

Arod, Nadal, and Kobe. ;)

Brady. He doesn't throw SB losing picks. He just wins them, well at least 3-4. And his play-off record haunts Peyton's nightmares.

heysharpshooter

Brady won SB's with badass defenses and Manning won a SB without a badass defense. And you're under-estimating Brady's cast support on offense when he used to win SB's. He had a dominant O-Line, he had all day to throw in these SB's. He also had good receivers, I dont care that any of them were top tier quality, but they were reliable and selfless, just think of Trow Brown, Deoin Branch and David Givens. He also good production from his running game in each SB's.

Darth_Revan_666

Manning, no doubt

[QUOTE="Bobbles"]This again? We talked about this like two months ago. Brady.Darth_Revan_666

Yup

Brady, although I am biased being a Pats fan

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Brady. He doesn't throw SB losing picks. He just wins them, well at least 3-4. And his play-off record haunts Peyton's nightmares.

Chutebox

1. You cannot blame picks on WR's, unless the ball bounces off their hands and gets picked. Manning seemed pretty confidant that he could fit that ball into tight coverage. He clearly thought Wayne was open, and got baited. Just because ESPN Manning appologists said Wayne broke off the route does not make it so. If Manning really looked and saw Wayne runnig the wrong route, why did he throw the ball?

2. The Saints had the 28th ranked defense in the NFL last season, giving up almost 400 yards a game in total offense. Yeah, awesome defense.

3. Again, what does the coaching staff have to do with Manning throwing the SB losing pick?

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Brady. He doesn't throw SB losing picks. He just wins them, well at least 3-4. And his play-off record haunts Peyton's nightmares.

heysharpshooter

1. You cannot blame picks on WR's, unless the ball bounces off their hands and gets picked. Manning seemed pretty confidant that he could fit that ball into tight coverage. He clearly thought Wayne was open, and got baited. Just because ESPN Manning appologists said Wayne broke off the route does not make it so. If Manning really looked and saw Wayne runnig the wrong route, why did he throw the ball?

2. The Saints had the 28th ranked defense in the NFL last season, giving up almost 400 yards a game in total offense. Yeah, awesome defense.

3. Again, what does the coaching staff have to do with Manning throwing the SB losing pick?

1. I hate ESPN and don't watch it. Watch it yourself, it was a combination of a bad judgement call and receiver stopping his route.

2. That doesn't have anything to do with what I said, I think you understood me wrong. I was saying Manning had an awesome defense.

3. Coaching staff has everything to do with the game. Maybe not that 1 second during the whole SB.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Brady. He doesn't throw SB losing picks. He just wins them, well at least 3-4. And his play-off record haunts Peyton's nightmares.

heysharpshooter

1. You cannot blame picks on WR's, unless the ball bounces off their hands and gets picked. Manning seemed pretty confidant that he could fit that ball into tight coverage. He clearly thought Wayne was open, and got baited. Just because ESPN Manning appologists said Wayne broke off the route does not make it so. If Manning really looked and saw Wayne runnig the wrong route, why did he throw the ball?

2. The Saints had the 28th ranked defense in the NFL last season, giving up almost 400 yards a game in total offense. Yeah, awesome defense.

3. Again, what does the coaching staff have to do with Manning throwing the SB losing pick?

Im not going to bother posting anymore in this thread after this post because most of the arguments has already been made, but Id like to address the point number 2. The Saints defense was also the one that WTFPWNED Kurt Warner after his incredible performance against the Packers, and then destroyed Brett Favre and AD in the conference championship. It was also the defense that was 3rd in interceptions last year. Just to let you know.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Brady

Manning has an entire team devoted to him that gets him any weapon he wants and he still only has one ring and threw another one away (literally)

Brady on the other hand makes due with what the Pats give him and the year where the Pats actually went out and grabbed him some talent Brady crushed records right and left

Chutebox

He can make a receiver out of anybody. white_sox

Who's had the better players catching the ball during their career?

Why is everybody talking so much crap about Manning's performance in the Superbowl against the Saints? Look at the stats: 31/45, 333 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT. Thats choking? Really? What about that Colts defense that looked mediocre the entire 2nd quarter and 2nd half? You guys are out of you rminds, he threw 1 bad pass the entire game. Thats all, get over it.

Also, from the NFL:.com recap of the game: ''After a slow first quarter in which the Colts appeared ready to run away with the game, the Saints altered the course of Super Bowl XLIV by seizing control of the second quarter. They ran 26 offensive plays to six for the Colts, then opened the second half with a successful onside kick.''

The game went in favor of the Saints because the Colts defense couldnt get the ball back to Manning.

[QUOTE="white_sox"]He can make a receiver out of anybody. Jaysonguy

Who's had the better players catching the ball during their career?

What matters the most to win Superbowls? Great receivers or a dominating defense?

Why is everybody talking so much crap about Manning's performance in the Superbowl against the Saints? Look at the stats: 31/45, 333 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT. Thats choking? Really? What about that Colts defense that looked mediocre the entire 2nd quarter and 2nd half? You guys are out of you rminds, he threw 1 bad pass the entire game. Thats all, get over it.

Also, from the NFL:.com recap of the game: ''After a slow first quarter in which the Colts appeared ready to run away with the game, the Saints altered the course of Super Bowl XLIV by seizing control of the second quarter. They ran 26 offensive plays to six for the Colts, then opened the second half with a successful onside kick.''

The game went in favor of the Saints because the Colts defense couldnt get the ball back to Manning.

Darth_Revan_666

[QUOTE="Darth_Revan_666"]

Why is everybody talking so much crap about Manning's performance in the Superbowl against the Saints? Look at the stats: 31/45, 333 yds, 1 TD, 1 INT. Thats choking? Really? What about that Colts defense that looked mediocre the entire 2nd quarter and 2nd half? You guys are out of you rminds, he threw 1 bad pass the entire game. Thats all, get over it.

Also, from the NFL:.com recap of the game: ''After a slow first quarter in which the Colts appeared ready to run away with the game, the Saints altered the course of Super Bowl XLIV by seizing control of the second quarter. They ran 26 offensive plays to six for the Colts, then opened the second half with a successful onside kick.''

The game went in favor of the Saints because the Colts defense couldnt get the ball back to Manning.

Mister__Awesome

Brady because he can win championships against people not named Rex Grossman. Manning can be the MVP every year, but he just struggles in the playoffs.

Manning since he is from New Orleans Louisiana and plus he is the reason why the Colts has a killer offense, if he was not on the Colts their offense would be mediocre at best. Brady is what he is because of the system in New England.GridironKing

Manning isn't a product of his system?

[QUOTE="GridironKing"]Manning since he is from New Orleans Louisiana and plus he is the reason why the Colts has a killer offense, if he was not on the Colts their offense would be mediocre at best. Brady is what he is because of the system in New England.Jaysonguy

Manning isn't a product of his system?

Manning since he is from New Orleans Louisiana and plus he is the reason why the Colts has a killer offense, if he was not on the Colts their offense would be mediocre at best. Brady is what he is because of the system in New England.GridironKing

[QUOTE="GridironKing"]Manning since he is from New Orleans Louisiana and plus he is the reason why the Colts has a killer offense, if he was not on the Colts their offense would be mediocre at best. Brady is what he is because of the system in New England.MoonMarvel

Matt Cassel threw for 3693 yds, 21 TDs and 11 INTs while completing 63.4% of his passes in that system whenBrady went down.

Carried them to an 11-5 record as well.

Obviously Brady is much better than Cassel, but Belichick's system is a huge part of his success.

Cassel completed 55% of his passes, had 2924 yds and 16 TDs to 16 INTs last year with the Cheifs.

[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="GridironKing"]Manning since he is from New Orleans Louisiana and plus he is the reason why the Colts has a killer offense, if he was not on the Colts their offense would be mediocre at best. Brady is what he is because of the system in New England.midnite_toker22

Matt Cassel threw for 3693 yds, 21 TDs and 11 INTs while completing 63.4% of his passes in that system whenBrady went down.

Carried them to an 11-5 record as well.

Obviously Brady is much better than Cassel, but Belichick's system is a huge part of his success.

Cassel completed 55% of his passes, had 2924 yds and 16 TDs to 16 INTs last year with the Cheifs.

Boy, it's almost like going from a Superbowl contender to one of the 3 worst teams in the league makes your numbers go down

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