White males of old OT, how many of you are "woke"?

I'm not talking about nations. I specifically said the people. Asians have a better IQ, and in those White nations better income as well. You made them very nice areas to live in, thanks.

Yes. They move to white nations and become the higher rated demographic than the whites there, even though the nations they left still maintain the top IQs.

@loganx77: Do you know what an IQ measures?

Asians have a higher IQ than whites, on average:

https://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf (More than just math and science.)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289697900040 (More than just math and science.)

https://www.intelltheory.com/bellcurve.shtml (More than just math and science.)

https://samharris.org/podcasts/forbidden-knowledge/ (More than just math and science.)

Also,

https://iq-research.info/en/average-iq-by-country , (More than just math and science.)

https://blogs.worldbank.org/eastasiapacific/which-region-world-has-smartest-kids-according-oecd-it-s-east-asia (More than just math and science.)

Human intelligence is the most important category.

The most successful countries are majorly white. It's not the skin color though. Most people do not understand simple things such as Africa has the most land locked countries in the world. Makes trade really hard?

I don't think Logan is a racist, but he didn't put out the full context for his statements. Could you see that as a possibility?

@plageus900: Ones ability to learn. Most IQ test focus on Math, Science, Spatial recgonition; short term memory and analytical thinking.

IQ measures capability, not results.

@n64dd: Yes that is true and im more concerned with results.

Asians test higher in those majority white nations because they are willing to move half way across the world for the best oppertunities. They are the cream of the crop however they seem to be incapable of building a society that matches that potential.

All of those are included in most of my links. Only 1 link dealt with math/science and it wasn't even the main ones I mentioned first. But you knew that. Sneaky sneaky.

I wonder why you only accept facts on whites but not asians. Hmm........

@loganx77: as a Canadian, I refute the claim that diversity is turning countries into shit. It's more like corruption. We talk about patents, IP, infinite trademarks, how these socialist commie give away by the government, plus on top of that the tax cuts anti free market regulations have left the US as a tale of two cities. One side is incredibly rich, the other side is barely eking a living. These communist policies are the reason for it, nothing at all to do with the increased diversity. In Canada, the government isn't nearly as corrupt as in the US. We have a patent system, but only because of you Americans running the commie show. And your big ass military continuing the commie dreams. Regardless of this, at least our government gets more concessions from corporations than the US does, in exchange for the commie protections. Of course, now that the scam artist trump has come to power, he's made things more difficult. It's become a race to the bottom for everyone except the rich who benefits from communism.

Some chick that attributes maleness, whiteness and youthfulness to a GoFundMe campaign in support of victims families is pretty woke, in regards to the bus crash in Saskatchewan.

This is why people call you racist. You've been doing it for 4 pages. I'll post a fact that puts a non-white race in a positive light, and you'll lie about that fact to lessen or downright deny it. In extremely deceptive manners.

Sorry, but Asians test higher in their own countries as well. Asians in all studies are shown to be smarter than whites on average. No caveats to that. Not in special situations. Not only in white countries (the IQ maps show this too). Not the top 16. Not only math/science.

Stop. STaaaahp. You're failing my test.

Holy fluff, people actually have unironic arguments about why their race is the best? It is like a racist version of school kids shouting "My parents could beat up your parents!"

Sorry I was mostly just messing with him. I already showed in this thread I agree with geneticists and biologists that race is mostly a social construct well before this fake arguement.

I'm experienced in dealing with these kids who pretend to just be "a guy stating the facts" as a cover for racism. This is extremely easy to test. Simply bring up East Asians, and they stop caring about the facts......FAST. All of a sudden there is a lot of back tracking, out-right lying, arm-chair theory, and opinions. So much for facts. At this point they fail the test, and are likely white supremacists whether they know it or not.

@tryit:You can though the physical chararistics of bone structure, even if they are mixed you can take an educated guess. I identify as Australian but my ETHNICITY is German/Sri Lankan, Just because you identify as something doesn't make it true.

variant called 370A, also known as rs3827760, 1540T/C, or Val370Ala. (Ectodysplasin A receptor#Derived EDAR allele) It results in epicanthic fold (slanted eyes), this is going to be an Asian but not a Caucasian or African.

many people with European and Asian descent have inherited 1-4% of their DNA from Neanderthals ancestors, and those of African descent do not have Neanderthal heritage. Oh look genes to look for when figuring out ethnicity

you use genes that is common to the area, that would allow an acceptable levels of probability to determine race or ethnicity (which I consider the same thing they just change the meaning to stop people feeling bad and use ethnicity now just like how the word retard was used to replace the word mongoloid but people felt bad and now we have to say mental disabilities)

So I still don't really understand what woke is about, but I see it is somewhat about the political struggle between races and sexes. And I have a lot of opinions on that. And there are a lot of facts.

And this is the most important one: It's not a zero-sum game, and all sexes and all races are discriminated against in different degrees in different places. And dividing the victims into groups based on sex or race and then giving preferential treatment to one of those groups is going to exacerbate the problem. Instead we are better off treating all the victims as human beings, as people, and helping them all without discriminating between those who need help.

The idea that we need to propagate one "side's" problems to help the other side or that we need to only mention or take seriously the problems of one "side" needs to die. The idea that if a group is in a power position it cannot be discriminated against justifying anything done to that group, and that individual cases in which that happens anyway are not important, needs to die. The idea that if you cannot beat them ban them has to die. If you are righteous you don't need to fear discussion ever. The idea that the color or name of a candybar or the look or inclusion of a fucking fake video game character is of importance to HUMAN RIGHTS and how we treat people is so pathetic when we have actual issues at hand that we know are issues. For all we know including some propaganda in a video game works to your benefit. It's like you're purposefully looking away while pretending to address an issue by creating ten more that involve discrimination and that needs to die.

And so many sites and forums do this and even enforce this mentality in the name of bringing more attention to the problems of one "side" instead of focusing on the problems as a whole. It's a serious topic, not some childish race to a finish line. not about the influence of video games as they are right now on culture or society that aren't even clearly designed to be convincing you of anything real. This whole hipster attitude when it comes to real problems is creating a much more problematic mentality than we had before their interference. Addressing these issues is made neigh impossible by these online fanatics who do not accept truth into their gospel.

This is why I hope that there will be an organized ethical intervention or social intervention into echochambers like resetera and vice to break them open. We need to break open the safe spaces and echo chambers because they are discrimination factories. The moderators on those sites are propagating discrimination every day by them silencing sides of the story, discouraging discussion and them encouraging discriminatory solutions. And that's a different order of magnitude than some clearly fake video game having a sexualized character in it. They are the false prophets of our time.

So. Does that make me woke?

That sounds like your being more of a victim then the true higher race that you are.

shouldnt you instead show compassion and care for those less fortunate?

why would you not?

race is determined by a gene that controls the slant of the eyes?

ok I did not know that was the parser.

We all know the green people that Captain Kirk banged in Star Trek is the superior race!

yes!

because of the slant of her eyes which is genetic proof!

Kirk was the ultimate Earth Peace Ambassador. Spreading love all over the galaxy.

Remember the two half black/white guys that were white/black on opposite sides of their bodies and that was enough to start the hate fest? Star Trek was awesome at pointing out how stupid we are as a whole.

That it was. I think we can close the thread and say Star Trek prevails. Right @horgen?

@kittennose said:

@zaryia said:

Sorry I was mostly just messing with him. I already showed in this thread I agree with geneticists and biologists that race is mostly a social construct well before this fake arguement.

I'm experienced in dealing with these kids who pretend to just be "a guy stating the facts" as a cover for racism. This is extremely easy to test. Simply bring up East Asians, and they stop caring about the facts......FAST. All of a sudden there is a lot of back tracking, out-right lying, arm-chair theory, and opinions. So much for facts. At this point they fail the test, and are likely white supremacists whether they know it or not.

Yup, pretty much what he was doing. But he wasn't joking, dude was actually serious lol.

Bring up Asians using their own racist logic, and white supremacists squirm.

Do you really lack that much self awareness?

Nothing I stated in that post you quoted was incorrect, so I assume you're talking to the guy who has been factually incorrect for the last 4 pages.

Sorry!

I quoted a post in which you said you were only pretending to be racist. Well, mostly pretending, it seems you concede some degree of racism.

Where does factual correctness enter into the equation?

oh I get to jump in with the continual burning question.

once you guys figure out who is or is not a racist come and explain to me why it matters either way

Yes, I was "pretending". You can see my lengthy post on race being a social construct early on in this thread (Page 2).

I was merely pointing out his hypocrisy, and that of most white supremacists by using his own tactics against him. They'll yell "but I'm stating facts" (typically against blacks), but then you bring up East Asians Facts (which I am not one of, mind you) and all of a sudden facts no longer matter. It's an abrupt shift, and I've used it on other political forums when whites start attacking black statistics. It's always spectacular to watch.

Honestly sorry if you didn't catch that and If I offended anyone.

they are unbearably predictable arent they?

and transparent

You said were mostly pretending to be racist. That concedes racism. You doubled down on all your racist comments, claiming they were factual. Walking back the joke with claims that you were mostly pretending to be a supremacist in order to troll others into relieving that they are supremacist doesn't really help.

Finally, pointing that some times you say non-racist things doesn't help you more then it helps trump. Particularly when you concede racism and a willingness to argue dishonestly. Think you have at long last reached your final form, as you are now the thing you mostly pretend to hate.

@kittennose

I said I was sorry about my rather harsh/controversial tactic in successfully outing Logan as a white supremacist and beating him in every debate he brought up.

The opinions you continue to draw from that are no longer of my concern.

Dude nothing he says makes any God damn sense.

You outed yourself, and no one cares that you pretend it was for some greater good.

Heck, it isn't even a surprise.

Cool. I'm a real life racist now! Always been my dream. Thanks for that confirmation...

No now about it. The willingness to argue dishonestly has always been there as well.

uh...huh?

Anyways yeah keep this dangerous racist away from DACA Threads. Never know how nasty I might get.

Like I said, your willingness to argue dishonestly has always been there as well.

Since this became a thread about race and IQ, I'd like to mention that Ashkenazi Jews (German Jews) have the highest average IQ, beating out Asians 110 to 105. I'm proud to state this because I come from a line of Ashkenazi Jews. My 3rd cousin (grandmother's aunt's son) won a Nobel Prize in Physics and led the team of scientists who took the first picture of an Atom. His name is Hans Georg Dehmelt.

Come at me bro.

Reread: you use genes that is common to the area, that would allow an acceptable levels of probability to determine race or ethnicity (which I consider the same thing they just change the meaning to stop people feeling bad and use ethnicity now just like how the word retard was used to replace the word mongoloid but people felt bad and now we have to say mental disabilities)

I never said race is determined by a gene that controls the slant of the eyes.

OH! I see, its a social construct

what you just described there is a social construct.

genetics is HARD science, there is either a gene that IS race or there is not, otherwise its not genetic based, its a social construct.

peroid

I figured out how you post. You get a baseball bat, put your head on it....spin fast as you can...headbutt a wall and type the first thing that comes to your mind. A Jackson Pollock of trolls.

interesting!

thanks for sharing

Anytime!

@tryit: How? races or ethnicity could be seen like breeds with dogs, look at testosterone though different ethnicity's

@zaryia: As much as you post about IQ test you don't seem to know how they work. Most IQ test measure 5 categories. Math, Science , analytical skills, short term memory and spatial recognition. You get a score for every category and it is then averaged in your total IQ score. Your links said nothing about specific areas of the IQ test. They simply mentioned Asians do the best on IQ test( i never denied this) and some of your links specifically mentioned math and science as the area they are most succesful. If you and I take an IQ test and we score the same in short term memory, spatial recognition and i score higher in analytical skills and you beat me in Math and Science then your total IQ score will be higher. Not one of your links mentioned any specific areas that asians were succeding in beyond whites other then Math and Science. So it wasn't something i made up it came from your own links. There is no proof that asians are doing better in every category and its highly unlikely considering the vast majority of jobs that require analytical skills are dominated by whites ( Lawyers, politicians etc)

My argument is that the vast majority of the best places in the world are led by white people. And that seems to be a fact you can't logically debate hence why you spun the argument into something about IQ test.

Second of all i am hardly a white supremacist. I do feel whites are meant to harbor most of the guilt.Thats what being (Woke) is all about. Acknowledging your privliege and realizing everything was given to you because of your skin color. Thus you must pay it foward for the crime of your ancestors. My point is as badly as whites get hammered for being white and in power their track record for success has been pretty good overall comparitvley.

Thirdly the funniest thing about all this, besides your spin and strawman arguments. Like most leftist you did exactly what i thought you would. You flagged all of my comments to get me karma banned. Why respond if you can't do it without silencing me? Its typical from your side though so im not surprised.