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If Trump keeps up with his weekend trips to Mar-a-lago, he will outspend Obama's vacations costs over 8 years as president, during his first year as president.

Of course the cost of these trips are only estimates, and so far they estimates that the cost reached about 10 million $ based on a similar trip Obama had in 2013.

Didn't Trump criticize Obama's vacations trip and state that if he was ever elected as president, he wouldn't go on vacations because he would have so much work to do?

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Trump is wasting taxpayer money left and right. Costs a lot to have his family stay in New York as well. Disgusting how someone that doesn't pay taxes is okay with wasting money from people that NEED their money.

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The Hypocrisy is astounding. They did nothing but complain about Obama golf outings and vacations but Trump is literally doing this every weekend and now the right doesn't mind. When he spends money like crazy they wont mind either. You think they will want to shut down the government for the next debt ceiling raise? Of course not, they are hypocrites and stand for nothing but the parties power and control.

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The part of fiscal responsibility lol

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#5  Edited By Master_Live
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Hey Trumpy, stop making travel great again.

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What if his spendy trips somehow decrease costs elsewhere? *Insert magic down stream cost savings effect*

Have to think positive, right?!

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@mark1974 said:

You think they will want to shut down the government for the next debt ceiling raise?

To be fair, this is NEVER a good idea.

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Remember that time when Trump and Trumpettes complained about Obama taking vacations, although Obama took fewer vacations compared to his predecessor?

Pepperridge Farm remembers.

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@mattbbpl said:
@mark1974 said:

You think they will want to shut down the government for the next debt ceiling raise?

To be fair, this is NEVER a good idea.

It is never a good idea, I would agree completely.

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@drunk_pi said:

Remember that time when Trump and Trumpettes complained about Obama taking vacations, although Obama took fewer vacations compared to his predecessor?

Pepperridge Farm remembers.

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He'll never take a "big" vacation, but he will take a lot of small vacations!

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  • costs in the first month almost matched what it cost to keep Obama safe for a whole year
  • the Mar-a-Lago businesses resent him constantly visiting, saying it's making them go broke because him visiting and all the security with it, that all hinders a substantial chunk of their customer flow each weekend
  • the local police being used for extra security and not being reimbursed for the security they provide on his visits, leaving the city of Palm Beach nearly $2 million in the hole
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#13 horgen  Moderator
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@perfect_blue: Excellent, you found the tweets he made about it.

@LJS9502_basic said:

Trump is wasting taxpayer money left and right. Costs a lot to have his family stay in New York as well. Disgusting how someone that doesn't pay taxes is okay with wasting money from people that NEED their money.

It is quite easy to spend someone else money.

@lamprey263 said:
  • costs in the first month almost matched what it cost to keep Obama safe for a whole year
  • the Mar-a-Lago businesses resent him constantly visiting, saying it's making them go broke because him visiting and all the security with it, that all hinders a substantial chunk of their customer flow each weekend
  • the local police being used for extra security and not being reimbursed for the security they provide on his visits, leaving the city of Palm Beach nearly $2 million in the hole

Can Mar-a-lago say no to him?

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@perfect_blue:

Funny he mentioned the TSA falling apart since his proposal to fund the wall on the US-Mexico border will involve cuts into the Coast Guard and the TSA.

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I had a discussion with my Dad and uncle about this, and they kept insisting the media was just being unfair to Trump. Expecting the same excuse when the deficit numbers come in yuge next year.

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He owns the place and does not have to rent it like Obama did every where he went. Lets not forget the costs of his Christmas vacations in Hawaii. It will be interesting to see if he goes there this year since the tax payers won't be footing the bill.

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#17  Edited By HoolaHoopMan
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@JimB said:

He owns the place and does not have to rent it like Obama did every where he went. Lets not forget the costs of his Christmas vacations in Hawaii. It will be interesting to see if he goes there this year since the tax payers won't be footing the bill.

Do you even know how to read? This has little to do with him 'owning it'. Just using transportation and security is racking up the costs to levels far higher than Obama. I know it's hard, but try to stay on track and actually READ what is presented to you Jimmy Boy.

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#18  Edited By pyro1245
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Eh let him spend as much time there as he wants. As a tax-payer, I'm okay with it.

The more time he's walking around outside and not spreading dumb conspiracy theories on twitter, the better.

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@HoolaHoopMan said:
@JimB said:

He owns the place and does not have to rent it like Obama did every where he went. Lets not forget the costs of his Christmas vacations in Hawaii. It will be interesting to see if he goes there this year since the tax payers won't be footing the bill.

Do you even know how to read? This has little to do with him 'owning it'. Just using transportation and security is racking up the costs to levels far higher than Obama. I know it's hard, but try to stay on track and actually READ what is presented to you Jimmy Boy.

Funny the same news agencies criticizing Trump never criticized Obama for travel and security expense.

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@JimB said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:
@JimB said:

He owns the place and does not have to rent it like Obama did every where he went. Lets not forget the costs of his Christmas vacations in Hawaii. It will be interesting to see if he goes there this year since the tax payers won't be footing the bill.

Do you even know how to read? This has little to do with him 'owning it'. Just using transportation and security is racking up the costs to levels far higher than Obama. I know it's hard, but try to stay on track and actually READ what is presented to you Jimmy Boy.

Funny the same news agencies criticizing Trump never criticized Obama for travel and security expense.

But you criticized Obama for it. Are you going to do the same with Trump? Don't accuse others of hypocrisy if you are going to do the exact same thing.

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Well he did say he was going to work hard when he became president.

Just failed to say that he would be working hard to avoid working hard.

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@JimB said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:
@JimB said:

He owns the place and does not have to rent it like Obama did every where he went. Lets not forget the costs of his Christmas vacations in Hawaii. It will be interesting to see if he goes there this year since the tax payers won't be footing the bill.

Do you even know how to read? This has little to do with him 'owning it'. Just using transportation and security is racking up the costs to levels far higher than Obama. I know it's hard, but try to stay on track and actually READ what is presented to you Jimmy Boy.

Funny the same news agencies criticizing Trump never criticized Obama for travel and security expense.

Again, that has nothing to do with what is being stated in this thread or by anybody. Are you actively trying to be dense?

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@JimB said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:
@JimB said:

He owns the place and does not have to rent it like Obama did every where he went. Lets not forget the costs of his Christmas vacations in Hawaii. It will be interesting to see if he goes there this year since the tax payers won't be footing the bill.

Do you even know how to read? This has little to do with him 'owning it'. Just using transportation and security is racking up the costs to levels far higher than Obama. I know it's hard, but try to stay on track and actually READ what is presented to you Jimmy Boy.

Funny the same news agencies criticizing Trump never criticized Obama for travel and security expense.

That might be because Obama's travel and security expense was about 1/10 of Trump's.

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@pyro1245 said:

Eh let him spend as much time there as he wants. As a tax-payer, I'm okay with it.

The more time he's walking around outside and not spreading dumb conspiracy theories on twitter, the better.

He tends to do both at the same time though.

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@JimB said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:
@JimB said:

He owns the place and does not have to rent it like Obama did every where he went. Lets not forget the costs of his Christmas vacations in Hawaii. It will be interesting to see if he goes there this year since the tax payers won't be footing the bill.

Do you even know how to read? This has little to do with him 'owning it'. Just using transportation and security is racking up the costs to levels far higher than Obama. I know it's hard, but try to stay on track and actually READ what is presented to you Jimmy Boy.

Funny the same news agencies criticizing Trump never criticized Obama for travel and security expense.

Why would they criticise Obama for it when Obama never racked up a bill like Trump has? Trump could be diagnosed with Alzheimer's and you would be arguing "why was nobody saying that Obama was unfit when he sneezed?"

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He's going to suck them dry of their tax dollars. Sad!

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@toast_burner said:
@JimB said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:
@JimB said:

He owns the place and does not have to rent it like Obama did every where he went. Lets not forget the costs of his Christmas vacations in Hawaii. It will be interesting to see if he goes there this year since the tax payers won't be footing the bill.

Do you even know how to read? This has little to do with him 'owning it'. Just using transportation and security is racking up the costs to levels far higher than Obama. I know it's hard, but try to stay on track and actually READ what is presented to you Jimmy Boy.

Funny the same news agencies criticizing Trump never criticized Obama for travel and security expense.

Why would they criticise Obama for it when Obama never racked up a bill like Trump has? Trump could be diagnosed with Alzheimer's and you would be arguing "why was nobody saying that Obama was unfit when he sneezed?"

Oh hell. That was funny as hell. Props.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@toast_burner said:
@JimB said:
@HoolaHoopMan said:
@JimB said:

He owns the place and does not have to rent it like Obama did every where he went. Lets not forget the costs of his Christmas vacations in Hawaii. It will be interesting to see if he goes there this year since the tax payers won't be footing the bill.

Do you even know how to read? This has little to do with him 'owning it'. Just using transportation and security is racking up the costs to levels far higher than Obama. I know it's hard, but try to stay on track and actually READ what is presented to you Jimmy Boy.

Funny the same news agencies criticizing Trump never criticized Obama for travel and security expense.

Why would they criticise Obama for it when Obama never racked up a bill like Trump has? Trump could be diagnosed with Alzheimer's and you would be arguing "why was nobody saying that Obama was unfit when he sneezed?"

Oh hell. That was funny as hell. Props.

Every time Obama traveled he took three planes One for him and one for his dog, speaking of his dog it had a trainer which cost the taxpayers $120.000 a year no expense there right. His Wednesday parties with top entertainment no expense there. Funny what happens when you open Pandora's Box.

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@JimB said:

Every time Obama traveled he took three planes One for him and one for his dog, speaking of his dog it had a trainer which cost the taxpayers $120.000 a year no expense there right. His Wednesday parties with top entertainment no expense there. Funny what happens when you open Pandora's Box.

No words can describe the stupidity of your posts. Not only were you demolished in this argument, you state that Obama's dog took a separate plane? That was debunked long ago.

Jesus Christ, you're a gullible idiot. It's one thing to have an argument but it's another to argue with someone who thinks the world is flat.

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@drunk_pi said:
@JimB said:

Every time Obama traveled he took three planes One for him and one for his dog, speaking of his dog it had a trainer which cost the taxpayers $120.000 a year no expense there right. His Wednesday parties with top entertainment no expense there. Funny what happens when you open Pandora's Box.

No words can describe the stupidity of your posts. Not only were you demolished in this argument, you state that Obama's dog took a separate plane? That was debunked long ago.

Jesus Christ, you're a gullible idiot. It's one thing to have an argument but it's another to argue with someone who thinks the world is flat.

If you said 2+2 = 4 to JimB he would be here arguing and pretending it equals 5. Really crazy how brainwashed Republican diehards are, really makes you want to cry if you're American. This is what happens when you cultivate low information, anti-science, anti-reality voters like JimB for 50+ years.

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No need to call each other names.

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@JimB said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Oh hell. That was funny as hell. Props.

Every time Obama traveled he took three planes One for him and one for his dog, speaking of his dog it had a trainer which cost the taxpayers $120.000 a year no expense there right. His Wednesday parties with top entertainment no expense there. Funny what happens when you open Pandora's Box.

Just for shits and giggles, feel free to cite sources for all of this Jimmy Boy.

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@JimB said:

Every time Obama traveled he took three planes One for him and one for his dog, speaking of his dog it had a trainer which cost the taxpayers $120.000 a year no expense there right. His Wednesday parties with top entertainment no expense there. Funny what happens when you open Pandora's Box.

I'm sorry, I couldn't get passed this point. A plane for him and a plane for his dog adds up to two planes.

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@mattbbpl: 1+1=3. I don't see the problem here unless you are doing that liberal fake math they teach in those liberal brainwashing schools.

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@mattbbpl: 1+1=3. I don't see the problem here unless you are doing that liberal fake math they teach in those liberal brainwashing schools.

It's funny when one of the lies spirals out of control and the numbers no longer add up.

Such is the curse of fish stories.

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@mattbbpl said:
@JimB said:

Every time Obama traveled he took three planes One for him and one for his dog, speaking of his dog it had a trainer which cost the taxpayers $120.000 a year no expense there right. His Wednesday parties with top entertainment no expense there. Funny what happens when you open Pandora's Box.

I'm sorry, I couldn't get passed this point. A plane for him and a plane for his dog adds up to two planes.

Well one for the pilots so there you go. 3 planes.

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Can't build that wall unless I'm playing golf. :P

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This is some diversionary shit. What is a few hundred million compared to the tens of BILLIONS he will needlessly increase State Department and general defense budgets while building a goddamn wall in the 21st century, whilst trimming funding from desperately needed agencies, services, and regulations nationwide? How about the callous disregard for fact based analysis, and it's reporting? How about the extreme ethical issues his cabinet already has?

A few hundred million is akin to getting hit with a tsunami, then complaining about being spat upon......

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This is some diversionary shit. What is a few hundred million compared to the tens of BILLIONS he will needlessly increase State Department and general defense budgets while building a goddamn wall in the 21st century, whilst trimming funding from desperately needed agencies, services, and regulations nationwide? How about the callous disregard for fact based analysis, and it's reporting? How about the extreme ethical issues his cabinet already has?

A few hundred million is akin to getting hit with a tsunami, then complaining about being spat upon......

I thought he was decreasing funding for the State Department?

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The Hypocrisy is astounding. They did nothing but complain about Obama golf outings and vacations but Trump is literally doing this every weekend and now the right doesn't mind. When he spends money like crazy they wont mind either. You think they will want to shut down the government for the next debt ceiling raise? Of course not, they are hypocrites and stand for nothing but the parties power and control.

Doesn't that hypocrisy go both ways? Fans of Obama were quick to defend his vacations and breaks as part of the job and for mental health. If it didn't matter to them then, why does it matter to them now?

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@mark1974 said:

The Hypocrisy is astounding. They did nothing but complain about Obama golf outings and vacations but Trump is literally doing this every weekend and now the right doesn't mind. When he spends money like crazy they wont mind either. You think they will want to shut down the government for the next debt ceiling raise? Of course not, they are hypocrites and stand for nothing but the parties power and control.

Doesn't that hypocrisy go both ways? Fans of Obama were quick to defend his vacations and breaks as part of the job and for mental health. If it didn't matter to them then, why does it matter to them now?

It does go both ways and for my part I don't care what vacations Trump takes. His whole life is one big vacation. But he seems to be putting Obama to shame so far on the amount of golfing he does. I think it would be refreshing to have a president who does not golf. Is that even possible?

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@drunk_pi said:
@hillelslovak said:

This is some diversionary shit. What is a few hundred million compared to the tens of BILLIONS he will needlessly increase State Department and general defense budgets while building a goddamn wall in the 21st century, whilst trimming funding from desperately needed agencies, services, and regulations nationwide? How about the callous disregard for fact based analysis, and it's reporting? How about the extreme ethical issues his cabinet already has?

A few hundred million is akin to getting hit with a tsunami, then complaining about being spat upon......

I thought he was decreasing funding for the State Department?

Diverting it away from certain programs (needed imho) to other portions of defense, like the private sector.

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@sonicare said:
@mark1974 said:

The Hypocrisy is astounding. They did nothing but complain about Obama golf outings and vacations but Trump is literally doing this every weekend and now the right doesn't mind. When he spends money like crazy they wont mind either. You think they will want to shut down the government for the next debt ceiling raise? Of course not, they are hypocrites and stand for nothing but the parties power and control.

Doesn't that hypocrisy go both ways? Fans of Obama were quick to defend his vacations and breaks as part of the job and for mental health. If it didn't matter to them then, why does it matter to them now?

You'd have a point... if it weren't for that fact that Trump is on pace to out-vacation Obama's 8 years in 1 year.

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@hillelslovak said:

Diverting it away from certain programs (needed imho) to other portions of defense, like the private sector.

If you're referring to the State Department, I disagree.

DoS represents American interests worldwide and help mitigate conflicts worldwide. In fact, in a letter from 120 generals and admirals, they stated that stated:

"The State Department, USAID, Millennium Challenge Corporation, Peace Corps and other development agencies are critical to preventing conflict and reducing the need to put our men and women in uniform in harm's way," the generals wrote.

In fact, General Mattis stated in 2013: "If you don't fully fund the State Department, then I need to buy more ammunition."

Fact is, DoS has a role to play in American foreign policy. They use diplomacy and attempt to negotiate in order to avoid war as well as approve the DoD sales of weapons to other countries.

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@drunk_pi said:
@hillelslovak said:

Diverting it away from certain programs (needed imho) to other portions of defense, like the private sector.

If you're referring to the State Department, I disagree.

DoS represents American interests worldwide and help mitigate conflicts worldwide. In fact, in a letter from 120 generals and admirals, they stated that stated:

"The State Department, USAID, Millennium Challenge Corporation, Peace Corps and other development agencies are critical to preventing conflict and reducing the need to put our men and women in uniform in harm's way," the generals wrote.

In fact, General Mattis stated in 2013: "If you don't fully fund the State Department, then I need to buy more ammunition."

Fact is, DoS has a role to play in American foreign policy. They use diplomacy and attempt to negotiate in order to avoid war as well as approve the DoD sales of weapons to other countries.

I am not disagreeing. Trump seems to be diverting military funds away from aid programs and similar policies, and more into shit like the wall and most likely more private contracting for bloated projects he bitched and moaned about on the campaign trail.

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@hillelslovak said:
@drunk_pi said:
@hillelslovak said:

Diverting it away from certain programs (needed imho) to other portions of defense, like the private sector.

If you're referring to the State Department, I disagree.

DoS represents American interests worldwide and help mitigate conflicts worldwide. In fact, in a letter from 120 generals and admirals, they stated that stated:

"The State Department, USAID, Millennium Challenge Corporation, Peace Corps and other development agencies are critical to preventing conflict and reducing the need to put our men and women in uniform in harm's way," the generals wrote.

In fact, General Mattis stated in 2013: "If you don't fully fund the State Department, then I need to buy more ammunition."

Fact is, DoS has a role to play in American foreign policy. They use diplomacy and attempt to negotiate in order to avoid war as well as approve the DoD sales of weapons to other countries.

I am not disagreeing. Trump seems to be diverting military funds away from aid programs and similar policies, and more into shit like the wall and most likely more private contracting for bloated projects he bitched and moaned about on the campaign trail.

NVM. I misread your previous comment.

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Page 7 of Presidential Travel: Policy and Costs details how many aircraft are used when the President travels both internationally and domestically. The cargo aircraft carry the armored limo that is used.

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The Hypocrisy is astounding. They did nothing but complain about Obama golf outings and vacations but Trump is literally doing this every weekend and now the right doesn't mind. When he spends money like crazy they wont mind either. You think they will want to shut down the government for the next debt ceiling raise? Of course not, they are hypocrites and stand for nothing but the parties power and control.

Doesn't that hypocrisy go both ways? Fans of Obama were quick to defend his vacations and breaks as part of the job and for mental health. If it didn't matter to them then, why does it matter to them now?

It does go both ways and for my part I don't care what vacations Trump takes. His whole life is one big vacation. But he seems to be putting Obama to shame so far on the amount of golfing he does. I think it would be refreshing to have a president who does not golf. Is that even possible?

Truth be told, we should both want trump to take as much vacation as he can. Less Trump in office, means less terrible Trump policies. Lol.

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@sonicare said:
@mark1974 said:
@sonicare said:
@mark1974 said:

The Hypocrisy is astounding. They did nothing but complain about Obama golf outings and vacations but Trump is literally doing this every weekend and now the right doesn't mind. When he spends money like crazy they wont mind either. You think they will want to shut down the government for the next debt ceiling raise? Of course not, they are hypocrites and stand for nothing but the parties power and control.

Doesn't that hypocrisy go both ways? Fans of Obama were quick to defend his vacations and breaks as part of the job and for mental health. If it didn't matter to them then, why does it matter to them now?

It does go both ways and for my part I don't care what vacations Trump takes. His whole life is one big vacation. But he seems to be putting Obama to shame so far on the amount of golfing he does. I think it would be refreshing to have a president who does not golf. Is that even possible?

Truth be told, we should both want trump to take as much vacation as he can. Less Trump in office, means less terrible Trump policies. Lol.

Ryan policies aren't better FYI.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@sonicare said:

Truth be told, we should both want trump to take as much vacation as he can. Less Trump in office, means less terrible Trump policies. Lol.

Ryan policies aren't better FYI.

Send them both on vacation?