Trump likes travelling to Mar-a-lago it seems

No, he doesn't.

Trump isn't the only one that likes to make random trips to his vacation place a lot during the year. The premier of Manitoba in Canada likes to make trips to Costa Rica a lot during the year.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/pallister-costa-rica-5-weeks-7-weeks-1.4007698

Jimmy Boy, I'm dying for a source on this. Don't let me down.

Mar-a-Lago is owned by Trump hence it doesn't cost the tax payer.

The security? Do they stay for free as well?

How sure are you that Trump's Mar-a-Lago weekends don't cost the tax payer?

Offer sources countering the CBS report. Oh and PC = #1 btw.

Yes it does. The travel and the security are very expensive. Also the fact that they have to protect the New York home of his family. He's very expensive as president. And he's going to cost a lot more.

@horgen: The security exist regardless if Trump is in the Whitehouse or Mar-a-Lago.

no, the security at Mar-a-Lago is extra.

Security costs at the White House are generally accounted for. Metal detectors, guard stations, rooms for security staff, accomadations, various services...all those things are pretty much taken care of at the White House, built into the logistics and infrastructure there.

Special trips are at additional costs because none of that is built in to wherever the president travels to, generally. Where does security sleep? Need to pay extra for hotels or other accommodations. Where do they eat? Need to pay extra for food. Where is all the security equipment? You need to buy extra and the ship it in. And because a certain % of security needs to stay at the White House to look after any staff that remains (there's more than just the president under protection), you need to hire extra personnel to cover the difference.

Furthermore, they also put strain on the local economy as well (as said earlier, they need to pay police to work overtime). Not to mention the non-monetary inconveniences that can ultimately cost people in the end, i.e. blocked traffic leading to lost productivity, etc..

Offer citation refuting the CBS report linked by the OP.

Thank you.

Obama almost doubled US government debt.

http://worldpoliticus.com/2017/02/23/donald-trump-reduced-us-debt-12-billion-one-month/

@ronvalencia said:

@horgen said:

If Trump keeps up with his weekend trips to Mar-a-lago, he will outspend Obama's vacations costs over 8 years as president, during his first year as president.

Of course the cost of these trips are only estimates, and so far they estimates that the cost reached about 10 million $ based on a similar trip Obama had in 2013.

Didn't Trump criticize Obama's vacations trip and state that if he was ever elected as president, he wouldn't go on vacations because he would have so much work to do?

Obama almost doubled US government debt.

http://worldpoliticus.com/2017/02/23/donald-trump-reduced-us-debt-12-billion-one-month/

Holy irrelevance, Batman!!! (Ignoring debt to GDP ratio and the growth of the economy vs expenditures).

@HoolaHoopMan said:

@ronvalencia said:

@horgen said:

If Trump keeps up with his weekend trips to Mar-a-lago, he will outspend Obama's vacations costs over 8 years as president, during his first year as president.

Of course the cost of these trips are only estimates, and so far they estimates that the cost reached about 10 million $ based on a similar trip Obama had in 2013.

Didn't Trump criticize Obama's vacations trip and state that if he was ever elected as president, he wouldn't go on vacations because he would have so much work to do?

Obama almost doubled US government debt.

http://worldpoliticus.com/2017/02/23/donald-trump-reduced-us-debt-12-billion-one-month/

Holy irrelevance, Batman!!! (Ignoring debt to GDP ratio and the growth of the economy vs expenditures).

My point is, Trump's security and travel expenditure is minor when Trump reduced the debt is reduced by $12 billion.

Again, the point you're trying to make is irrelevant to the point of the original post. This is text book deflection (ignoring that the conversation you're trying to have lacks total context of revenue/debt).

Also... This budget year is still Obama's, right?

Not sure, but it makes sense that expenditures for 2017 were already set in stone prior to Trump taking office.

@ronvalencia said:

@HoolaHoopMan said:

@ronvalencia said:

@horgen said:

If Trump keeps up with his weekend trips to Mar-a-lago, he will outspend Obama's vacations costs over 8 years as president, during his first year as president.

Of course the cost of these trips are only estimates, and so far they estimates that the cost reached about 10 million $ based on a similar trip Obama had in 2013.

Didn't Trump criticize Obama's vacations trip and state that if he was ever elected as president, he wouldn't go on vacations because he would have so much work to do?

Obama almost doubled US government debt.

http://worldpoliticus.com/2017/02/23/donald-trump-reduced-us-debt-12-billion-one-month/

Holy irrelevance, Batman!!! (Ignoring debt to GDP ratio and the growth of the economy vs expenditures).

My point is, Trump's security and travel expenditure is minor when Trump reduced the debt is reduced by $12 billion.

Wow, this deflection is astounding. You posted something completely irrelevant to the point discussed LOL

I mean, yes and no? Current spending is almost 100% from the Obama administration, but rather than running on year long budgets we've been running on continuing resolutions (the current one of which I'm sure will run out before the end of the year). Also, we are unlikely to remain under the debt ceiling cap for the entire year, which could theoretically spur some tax and spending renegotiations before the year is up.

TL;DR: Current spending levels are mostly attributable to the Obama administration, but that may not remain the case for the entire year.

Secret Service is a lifetime benefit. Just keep in mind that Obama will still be costing us a ton of money even after Trump dies of old age.

@ronvalencia said:

@horgen said:

If Trump keeps up with his weekend trips to Mar-a-lago, he will outspend Obama's vacations costs over 8 years as president, during his first year as president.

Of course the cost of these trips are only estimates, and so far they estimates that the cost reached about 10 million $ based on a similar trip Obama had in 2013.

Didn't Trump criticize Obama's vacations trip and state that if he was ever elected as president, he wouldn't go on vacations because he would have so much work to do?

Obama almost doubled US government debt.

http://worldpoliticus.com/2017/02/23/donald-trump-reduced-us-debt-12-billion-one-month/

so did bush...

That goes for any president then.

Maybe if some people aren't crazy lunatics who want to kill the president (or former president), the Secret Service's protection wouldn't be needed.

What to you mean by "tons of money?" Because secret service protection is minuscule compared to the billions upon billions spent on other programs, from social security to defense. This is like complaining about how big the ocean has gotten when it suddenly gets a droplet of water.

The issue here is hypocrisy. Trump is traveling and vacationing at a higher rate compared to his predecessor which he complained about numerous times. Not to mention that his wife and son live in New York which is an added expense for the state. Not to mention that despite his first several months, Trump hasn't done much in terms of legislating other than signing a bill that undid gun restrictions on the mentally ill.

@horgen: Except it was a 10 year limit until Obama extended to lifetime. It's so easy for rich people to spend other people's money isn't it?

Then Trump can change it back to 10 years. My point still is that the current president criticized Obama and all the vacations he took over his 8 years as president, yet in his first month as president has used as much as Obama did in a year on average.

I'd rather have him at Mar-A-Lago than in the office making terrible policy. True story.

@comp_atkins said:

@ronvalencia said:

@horgen said:

If Trump keeps up with his weekend trips to Mar-a-lago, he will outspend Obama's vacations costs over 8 years as president, during his first year as president.

Of course the cost of these trips are only estimates, and so far they estimates that the cost reached about 10 million $ based on a similar trip Obama had in 2013.

Didn't Trump criticize Obama's vacations trip and state that if he was ever elected as president, he wouldn't go on vacations because he would have so much work to do?

Obama almost doubled US government debt.

http://worldpoliticus.com/2017/02/23/donald-trump-reduced-us-debt-12-billion-one-month/

so did bush...

Furthermore, that stat begins in 1992. When Ronald Reagan pissed away the US surplus in his first term, and instituted his trickle down programs, it laid this country on a fiscal path that could be diverted somewhat, but it was one that went in a single direction. That direction was upward with inflation. Clinton was able to stopgap this process somewhat, but that was obviously temporary. W Bush simply hastened the inflation with some terrible financial initiatives. It is completely on Obama though, the effect of his financial policy.

I assume you mean inflation of the national debt rather than price inflation, right?

@hillelslovak said:

@comp_atkins said:

@ronvalencia said:

@horgen said:

If Trump keeps up with his weekend trips to Mar-a-lago, he will outspend Obama's vacations costs over 8 years as president, during his first year as president.

Of course the cost of these trips are only estimates, and so far they estimates that the cost reached about 10 million $ based on a similar trip Obama had in 2013.

Didn't Trump criticize Obama's vacations trip and state that if he was ever elected as president, he wouldn't go on vacations because he would have so much work to do?

Obama almost doubled US government debt.

http://worldpoliticus.com/2017/02/23/donald-trump-reduced-us-debt-12-billion-one-month/

so did bush...

Furthermore, that stat begins in 1992. When Ronald Reagan pissed away the US surplus in his first term, and instituted his trickle down programs, it laid this country on a fiscal path that could be diverted somewhat, but it was one that went in a single direction. That direction was upward with inflation. Clinton was able to stopgap this process somewhat, but that was obviously temporary. W Bush simply hastened the inflation with some terrible financial initiatives. It is completely on Obama though, the effect of his financial policy.

i remember what a big deal the news was making out of there being a surplus for the first time in decades back in the late 90s.

9/11, tax cuts and an unnecessary war took care of that pesky problem.