SR White House official claims to be part of trump resistance.

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This is actually really serious stuff.

Not only does it validate Bob Woodward, but it goes much further into describing just how dangerous the situation in the white house.

Any guess on the source?

I would guess Mathis or Kelly.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html

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Probably Ivanka.

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There is more than one that is for sure.

But I think Kelly is using his strong conservative persona (which is real) to leverage trust with Trump in hopes of controlling him for national security reasons.

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Sad that is has to come to this..........and they best step up their efforts.

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that title alone is just going fuel the deep state conspiracies

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#7  Edited By deactivated-5e9044657a310
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@drlostrib: so? You're not going to convince dumbasses like that of anything anyway.

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Benefit of the doubt is always given to the best of intentions and idealisms of the times, only after they've passed in retrospection does it become apparent how messed up things actually were behind the scenes. I've no doubt that once Trump is gone, we're going to be hearing things about how utterly bankrupt and corrupt this administration was in every conceivable way possible far past what we're hearing now. I only hope we are able to endure that far.

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@Nuck81 said:

@drlostrib: so? You're not going to convince dumbasses like that of anything anyway.

unfortunately some of those dumbasses are in our government

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@MirkoS77 said:

Benefit of the doubt is always given to the best of intentions and idealisms of the times, only after they've passed in retrospection does it become apparent how messed up things actually were behind the scenes. I've no doubt that once Trump is gone, we're going to be hearing things about how utterly bankrupt and corrupt this administration was in every conceivable way possible far past what we're hearing now. I only hope we are able to endure that far.

i imagine the smart ones in the room have made it a habit of taking ample notes / recordings of events to protect themselves when the truths start to finally come out.

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I see a good portion of this bored was hit with TDS.

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I see a good portion of this bored was hit with TDS.

aw come on. you can come up with something better than that...

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@comp_atkins: Do I need too? The paranoia is hilarious in this thread.

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@comp_atkins said:
@blackhairedhero said:

I see a good portion of this bored was hit with TDS.

aw come one. you can come up with something better than that...

Nah he can't...........

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Bob Woodard book came out and there is a lot of information in it. Pence's friend said "Pence was told by God that his Destiny was to become the president." Now, we know Pence ultamate motive. He's waiting for Trump to be impeached. Also, John Kelly and Mattis don't like Trump.

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@LJS9502_basic said:

Sad that is has to come to this..........and they best step up their efforts.

Supporting treason.

A new low.

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OK despite the news, I think this story is going to change absolutely nothing whatsoever.

nothing is going to happen on either side until after the election.

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This book is written by a man who is trying to bask in glory now that his past glory has faded. He is irrelevant today as is his book.

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@JimB: try and keep up sweetheart

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@watercrack445 said:

Bob Woodard book came out and there is a lot of information in it. Pence's friend said "Pence was told by God that his Destiny was to become the president." Now, we know Pence ultimate motive. He's waiting for Trump to be impeached. Also, John Kelly and Mattis don't like Trump.

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@Serraph105 said:
@watercrack445 said:

Bob Woodard book came out and there is a lot of information in it. Pence's friend said "Pence was told by God that his Destiny was to become the president." Now, we know Pence ultimate motive. He's waiting for Trump to be impeached. Also, John Kelly and Mattis don't like Trump.

great so our next president isnt crazy he just hears imaginary voices.

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@n64dd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Sad that is has to come to this..........and they best step up their efforts.

Supporting treason.

A new low.

Treason? Are you as stupid as trump? Treason is helping an enemy during war. Period. Stop misusing words.

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@LJS9502_basic:

the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.

www.dictionary.com

Looks like Trump is smarter than you.

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@Nuck81 said:

This is actually really serious stuff.

Not only does it validate Bob Woodward, but it goes much further into describing just how dangerous the situation in the white house.

Any guess on the source?

I would guess Mathis or Kelly.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html

This anonymous source does not back anything Woodward said up.

A muppet could have written that and the NYT would have posted it because they know it sells.

If this guy really wanted to back Woodward up he would come out with his name and be a man.

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@Jacanuk said:
@Nuck81 said:

This is actually really serious stuff.

Not only does it validate Bob Woodward, but it goes much further into describing just how dangerous the situation in the white house.

Any guess on the source?

I would guess Mathis or Kelly.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html

This anonymous source does not back anything Woodward said up.

A muppet could have written that and the NYT would have posted it because they know it sells.

If this guy really wanted to back Woodward up he would come out with his name and be a man.

it really doesnt matter.

I mean its really not worth trying to build a case why one of the most reliable sources in journalistic history would be lying about something like this.

its better to just not worry about it at all because its not going to change a damn thing. its far too close to the election for this to change anything. and when the house flips impeachment hearings on the 25th are likely to start regardless of this news

Unless he is physically sending (or not sending) troops because of the military news out of Syria, China and Russia over the last few days.

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@Jacanuk said:

This anonymous source does not back anything Woodward said up.

A muppet could have written that and the NYT would have posted it because they know it sells.

If this guy really wanted to back Woodward up he would come out with his name and be a man.

Answer me something: The media foams from the mouth when Trump says something w/o proof or sources, right? How does the media act when an anonymous source says something negative against Trump?

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@n64dd said:

@LJS9502_basic:

the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign.

www.dictionary.com

Looks like Trump is smarter than you.

LOL he's not even half way as smart as I am.

§2381. Treason

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

US Code Chapter 15

Not some lame dictionary but official definition/law from the US Government.

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Doesn't say anything new really.

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@LJS9502_basic: Conspiring against a president you serve is levying war against the country.

If you’re so smart, why are arguing with me on the internet instead of running the country?

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@n64dd said:

@LJS9502_basic: Conspiring against a president you serve is levying war against the country.

If you’re so smart, why are arguing with me on the internet instead of running the country?

He( or she or they) are not conspiring against the country.

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@Solaryellow:

@Solaryellow said:
@Jacanuk said:

This anonymous source does not back anything Woodward said up.

A muppet could have written that and the NYT would have posted it because they know it sells.

If this guy really wanted to back Woodward up he would come out with his name and be a man.

Answer me something: The media foams from the mouth when Trump says something w/o proof or sources, right? How does the media act when an anonymous source says something negative against Trump?

The majority of the media who pretty much leans left does not "foam" about anything. What they do is fact check and verify and if proven wrong they point it out if it´s Trump.

On the other side, when they get anything and this could be a parrot who claims to have been molested by Trump, and they print it as if it was the Holy Bible.

You do not see a problem in printing a non-substantiated anonymous source?

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@Jacanuk said:

@Solaryellow:

@Solaryellow said:
@Jacanuk said:

This anonymous source does not back anything Woodward said up.

A muppet could have written that and the NYT would have posted it because they know it sells.

If this guy really wanted to back Woodward up he would come out with his name and be a man.

Answer me something: The media foams from the mouth when Trump says something w/o proof or sources, right? How does the media act when an anonymous source says something negative against Trump?

The majority of the media who pretty much leans left does not "foam" about anything. What they do is fact check and verify and if proven wrong they point it out if it´s Trump.

On the other side, when they get anything and this could be a parrot who claims to have been molested by Trump, and they print it as if it was the Holy Bible.

You do not see a problem in printing a non-substantiated anonymous source?

why does this news scare you so much?

its really a non-story. both sides of the isle are not going to do anything that isnt already planned which in after the election.

its not like making this story false is somehow going to avoid impeachment hearing, get real bro.

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@Jacanuk said:

@Solaryellow:

@Solaryellow said:

Answer me something: The media foams from the mouth when Trump says something w/o proof or sources, right? How does the media act when an anonymous source says something negative against Trump?

The majority of the media who pretty much leans left does not "foam" about anything. What they do is fact check and verify and if proven wrong they point it out if it´s Trump.

On the other side, when they get anything and this could be a parrot who claims to have been molested by Trump, and they print it as if it was the Holy Bible.

You do not see a problem in printing a non-substantiated anonymous source?

Maybe you didn't understand. The media has zero reservations running with stories against President Trump that are unproven from "anonymous" sources yet the very same media has an issue if Trump says ANYTHING without offering proof. Such actions by the media would be the very definition of hypocrisy. It's funny how different standards are applied based on the person(s) involved. Actually it is alarming rather than funny.

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Seems pretty convenient that this "anonymous" source came out two months before the midterms. Especially since a real senior official that was secretly part of the Resistance would probably want to keep their position secret to avoid being outed in an investigation or a leak.

It can't possibly be an attempt to rally more support behind taking back Congress so that they can impeach both Trump and Pence, allowing Nancy Pelosi or whatever other Democrat is the Speaker of the House take the presidency...

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@ad1x2 said:

Seems pretty convenient that this "anonymous" source came out two months before the midterms. Especially since a real senior official that was secretly part of the Resistance would probably want to keep their position secret to avoid being outed in an investigation or a leak.

It can't possibly be an attempt to rally more support behind taking back Congress so that they can impeach both Trump and Pence, allowing Nancy Pelosi or whatever other Democrat is the Speaker of the House take the presidency...

yeah now there is a so called 'liberal' view of the matter.

its really a non-story. media is making it out far more then it is.

A. congress and senate on both sides of the ilse are not going to do anything until after the election because its so close

B. Democrats are clearly going to win and impeachment hearings is basically already imminent even before this story

so what the F?

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@Solaryellow said:
@Jacanuk said:

@Solaryellow:

@Solaryellow said:

Answer me something: The media foams from the mouth when Trump says something w/o proof or sources, right? How does the media act when an anonymous source says something negative against Trump?

The majority of the media who pretty much leans left does not "foam" about anything. What they do is fact check and verify and if proven wrong they point it out if it´s Trump.

On the other side, when they get anything and this could be a parrot who claims to have been molested by Trump, and they print it as if it was the Holy Bible.

You do not see a problem in printing a non-substantiated anonymous source?

Maybe you didn't understand. The media has zero reservations running with stories against President Trump that are unproven from "anonymous" sources yet the very same media has an issue if Trump says ANYTHING without offering proof. Such actions by the media would be the very definition of hypocrisy. It's funny how different standards are applied based on the person(s) involved. Actually it is alarming rather than funny.

Well, then we agree

The media is not only being hypocritical they are also making Cronkite turn in his grave and make his afterlife a hell.

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@Jacanuk said:
@Solaryellow said:
@Jacanuk said:

@Solaryellow:

@Solaryellow said:

Answer me something: The media foams from the mouth when Trump says something w/o proof or sources, right? How does the media act when an anonymous source says something negative against Trump?

The majority of the media who pretty much leans left does not "foam" about anything. What they do is fact check and verify and if proven wrong they point it out if it´s Trump.

On the other side, when they get anything and this could be a parrot who claims to have been molested by Trump, and they print it as if it was the Holy Bible.

You do not see a problem in printing a non-substantiated anonymous source?

Maybe you didn't understand. The media has zero reservations running with stories against President Trump that are unproven from "anonymous" sources yet the very same media has an issue if Trump says ANYTHING without offering proof. Such actions by the media would be the very definition of hypocrisy. It's funny how different standards are applied based on the person(s) involved. Actually it is alarming rather than funny.

Well, then we agree

The media is not only being hypocritical they are also making Cronkite turn in his grave and make his afterlife a hell.

sorry but the reporter in question is Woodward, which is a big deal.

its in your best intrest to not worry about this story, it will change nothing.

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@Jacanuk

you do understand you are disagree with Trump on this story right? he has never denied it being accurate.

If the media lies all the time why would anyone trust them to give up a valid name?

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@tryit said:

sorry but the reporter in question is Woodward, which is a big deal.

its in your best intrest to not worry about this story, it will change nothing.

Unless, he can back up his claims with actual facts, it does not matter if he is the pope himself he is a fraud.

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@ad1x2 said:

Seems pretty convenient that this "anonymous" source came out two months before the midterms. Especially since a real senior official that was secretly part of the Resistance would probably want to keep their position secret to avoid being outed in an investigation or a leak.

It can't possibly be an attempt to rally more support behind taking back Congress so that they can impeach both Trump and Pence, allowing Nancy Pelosi or whatever other Democrat is the Speaker of the House take the presidency...

You know you post contradicts itself and makes no sense. But then again trump fan so I expect that from you..........

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@Jacanuk said:
@tryit said:

sorry but the reporter in question is Woodward, which is a big deal.

its in your best intrest to not worry about this story, it will change nothing.

Unless, he can back up his claims with actual facts, it does not matter if he is the pope himself he is a fraud.

sorry but that logic does not work.

'if one can not back up with claims' <> 'thus a fraud'

nope...that is factually incorrect logic.

but frankly speaking for myself I couldnt give a shit if its true or not. Not this specific story, its not important

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@Jacanuk said:
@tryit said:

sorry but the reporter in question is Woodward, which is a big deal.

its in your best intrest to not worry about this story, it will change nothing.

Unless, he can back up his claims with actual facts, it does not matter if he is the pope himself he is a fraud.

He records his conversations dude.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:
@tryit said:

sorry but the reporter in question is Woodward, which is a big deal.

its in your best intrest to not worry about this story, it will change nothing.

Unless, he can back up his claims with actual facts, it does not matter if he is the pope himself he is a fraud.

He records his conversations dude.

and his logic is sound either.

If I say 'the earth resolves around the sun' but I am not able to proof it personally that doesn't make what I said untrue, or me a fraud.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@ad1x2 said:

Seems pretty convenient that this "anonymous" source came out two months before the midterms. Especially since a real senior official that was secretly part of the Resistance would probably want to keep their position secret to avoid being outed in an investigation or a leak.

It can't possibly be an attempt to rally more support behind taking back Congress so that they can impeach both Trump and Pence, allowing Nancy Pelosi or whatever other Democrat is the Speaker of the House take the presidency...

You know you post contradicts itself and makes no sense. But then again trump fan so I expect that from you..........

No, I'm implying that the "anonymous source" could just be some NYT employee with an imagination trying to help the Resistance win in November, instead of an actual person in his administration trying to anonymously let the country know they are there fighting him on the down low.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Jacanuk said:
@tryit said:

sorry but the reporter in question is Woodward, which is a big deal.

its in your best intrest to not worry about this story, it will change nothing.

Unless, he can back up his claims with actual facts, it does not matter if he is the pope himself he is a fraud.

He records his conversations dude.

And then I'm sure he will make them public. As I said until he backs his shitty book up, then it´s all conjecture

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#48 comp_atkins
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@Solaryellow said:
@Jacanuk said:

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Answer me something: The media foams from the mouth when Trump says something w/o proof or sources, right? How does the media act when an anonymous source says something negative against Trump?

The majority of the media who pretty much leans left does not "foam" about anything. What they do is fact check and verify and if proven wrong they point it out if it´s Trump.

On the other side, when they get anything and this could be a parrot who claims to have been molested by Trump, and they print it as if it was the Holy Bible.

You do not see a problem in printing a non-substantiated anonymous source?

Maybe you didn't understand. The media has zero reservations running with stories against President Trump that are unproven from "anonymous" sources yet the very same media has an issue if Trump says ANYTHING without offering proof. Such actions by the media would be the very definition of hypocrisy. It's funny how different standards are applied based on the person(s) involved. Actually it is alarming rather than funny.

tbf... trump is the president.

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#49 LJS9502_basic
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You know you post contradicts itself and makes no sense. But then again trump fan so I expect that from you..........

No, I'm implying that the "anonymous source" could just be some NYT employee with an imagination trying to help the Resistance win in November, instead of an actual person in his administration trying to anonymously let the country know they are there fighting him on the down low.

Tin foil hat is showing. It's not. There is enough evidence there if one is impartial to know this administration is a mess and trump is't fit. You need only listen to the man himself to see this.

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#50 ad1x2
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@LJS9502_basic said:
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You know you post contradicts itself and makes no sense. But then again trump fan so I expect that from you..........

No, I'm implying that the "anonymous source" could just be some NYT employee with an imagination trying to help the Resistance win in November, instead of an actual person in his administration trying to anonymously let the country know they are there fighting him on the down low.

Tin foil hat is showing. It's not. There is enough evidence there if one is impartial to know this administration is a mess and trump is't fit. You need only listen to the man himself to see this.

I said nothing about whether or not the administration is a mess. Anyone with two working eyes can see how many turnovers and controversies they have had.

I'm just throwing it out there that this so-called anonymous official could be a fake that was just timed for the midterms.

If I was really trying to protect the country from within, why would I risk blowing my cover by letting the media know? I'm going to keep everything secret as long as I can so I can continue to do my thing without being worried about being exposed.