Holocaust denier runs unopposed in Illinois in GOP congressional primary

  • 103 results
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for tryit
TryIt

13157

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#51 TryIt
Member since 2017 • 13157 Posts

@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

@n64dd

a lot of people have read Mein Kampf a lot of good people even, so while you are reading Mein Kampf think on this.

my grandfather killed Nazi's. Now I know that likely doesn't mean anything to you but it does to a lot of people

I'm glad he did.

no your not

Considering that I am related to Romanian Jews that died in the holocaust on my dad's side of the family, I am.

If that doesn't suit your troll narrative that is your own problem.

sorry but I absolutely do not believe you when you say you care and I am not trolling on that, I fundamentally absolutely do not believe it

Avatar image for n64dd
N64DD

13167

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#52 N64DD
Member since 2015 • 13167 Posts

@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

@n64dd

a lot of people have read Mein Kampf a lot of good people even, so while you are reading Mein Kampf think on this.

my grandfather killed Nazi's. Now I know that likely doesn't mean anything to you but it does to a lot of people

I'm glad he did.

no your not

Considering that I am related to Romanian Jews that died in the holocaust on my dad's side of the family, I am.

If that doesn't suit your troll narrative that is your own problem.

sorry but I absolutely do not believe you when you say you care and I am not trolling on that, I fundamentally absolutely do not believe it

*shrugs*. Doesn't matter to me.

Avatar image for deeliman
deeliman

4027

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#53 deeliman
Member since 2013 • 4027 Posts

Why are nazi's even allowed to run for a political office? In most European countries he'd be thrown in jail.

Avatar image for drlostrib
DrLostRib

5931

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#54 DrLostRib
Member since 2017 • 5931 Posts

@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

and for the record

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

'is the ideologyand set of practices associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party in Nazi Germany and of other far-right groups.'

Wikipedia, really?

...you're going to criticize someone using wikipedia when you use infowars as a source?

Avatar image for tryit
TryIt

13157

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#55  Edited By TryIt
Member since 2017 • 13157 Posts

@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

no your not

Considering that I am related to Romanian Jews that died in the holocaust on my dad's side of the family, I am.

If that doesn't suit your troll narrative that is your own problem.

sorry but I absolutely do not believe you when you say you care and I am not trolling on that, I fundamentally absolutely do not believe it

*shrugs*. Doesn't matter to me.

yes I know that as well. you really do not care about anything and yes..I do believe you are a supporter of nazi ideals

I know those people really exist, I have met them personally

Avatar image for n64dd
N64DD

13167

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#56  Edited By N64DD
Member since 2015 • 13167 Posts

@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

no your not

Considering that I am related to Romanian Jews that died in the holocaust on my dad's side of the family, I am.

If that doesn't suit your troll narrative that is your own problem.

sorry but I absolutely do not believe you when you say you care and I am not trolling on that, I fundamentally absolutely do not believe it

*shrugs*. Doesn't matter to me.

yes I know that as well. you really do not care about anything and yes..I do believe you are a supporter of nazi ideals

I know those people really exist, I have met them personally

Uh huh.

Avatar image for LordQuorthon
LordQuorthon

5803

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#57 LordQuorthon
Member since 2008 • 5803 Posts

You would think the Simon Wiesenthal Center would be all over this monstrosity, but something tells me they won't say a word.

Avatar image for kittennose
KittenNose

2470

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 5

#58 KittenNose
Member since 2014 • 2470 Posts

@deeliman said:

Why are nazi's even allowed to run for a political office? In most European countries he'd be thrown in jail.

Because all forms of authoritarianism are awful.

Avatar image for tryit
TryIt

13157

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#59 TryIt
Member since 2017 • 13157 Posts

@kittennose said:
@deeliman said:

Why are nazi's even allowed to run for a political office? In most European countries he'd be thrown in jail.

Because all forms of authoritarianism are awful.

like the vast majority of businesses?

Avatar image for kittennose
KittenNose

2470

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 5

#60 KittenNose
Member since 2014 • 2470 Posts
@tryit said:

like the vast majority of businesses?

Think it would be hard to call them authoritarian, but I can happily concede that the overwhelming majority of corporations are fanatically awful.

Avatar image for tryit
TryIt

13157

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#61  Edited By TryIt
Member since 2017 • 13157 Posts

@kittennose said:
@tryit said:

like the vast majority of businesses?

Think it would be hard to call them authoritarian, but I can happily concede that the overwhelming majority of corporations are fanatically awful.

you can 'concede' that majority of corporations are fanatically awful?

well that is fine but I never said that they were. so not sure who you have been talking to.

so why would you not call corporations authoritarian?

Avatar image for kittennose
KittenNose

2470

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 5

#62 KittenNose
Member since 2014 • 2470 Posts

@tryit: because of the dictionary?

Avatar image for tryit
TryIt

13157

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#63  Edited By TryIt
Member since 2017 • 13157 Posts

@kittennose said:

@tryit: because of the dictionary?

I see you need some help figuring out my question.

Companies are Authoritarian.

Avatar image for deeliman
deeliman

4027

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#64 deeliman
Member since 2013 • 4027 Posts

@kittennose said:
@deeliman said:

Why are nazi's even allowed to run for a political office? In most European countries he'd be thrown in jail.

Because all forms of authoritarianism are awful.

I don't see how outlawing national socialism is awful.

Avatar image for kittennose
KittenNose

2470

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 5

#65 KittenNose
Member since 2014 • 2470 Posts
@deeliman said:

I don't see how outlawing national socialism is awful.

Authoritarians rarely have an issue with violently enforcing speech standards they agree with. It is what makes them authoritarian.

Avatar image for tryit
TryIt

13157

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#66  Edited By TryIt
Member since 2017 • 13157 Posts

@kittennose said:
@deeliman said:

I don't see how outlawing national socialism is awful.

Authoritarians rarely have an issue with violently enforcing speech standards they agree with. It is what makes them authoritarian.

no that is not a requirement for being Authoritarian

but by all measures a company is an Authoritarian style system.

so its rather precarious for one to take the position that all Authoritarian systems are awful, clearly its circumstantial.

Avatar image for Baconstrip78
Baconstrip78

1854

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#67 Baconstrip78
Member since 2013 • 1854 Posts

@perfect_blue: antifa stands for anti-fascist. I don’t see how that is a bad thing.

Avatar image for deactivated-5b1e62582e305
deactivated-5b1e62582e305

30778

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#68 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
Member since 2004 • 30778 Posts

@Baconstrip78 said:

@perfect_blue: antifa stands for anti-fascist. I don’t see how that is a bad thing.

Oh I absolutely agree don't get me wrong.

Avatar image for kittennose
KittenNose

2470

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 5

#69 KittenNose
Member since 2014 • 2470 Posts

@Baconstrip78 said:

@perfect_blue: antifa stands for anti-fascist. I don’t see how that is a bad thing.

If you stop at just the name when you judge something you are going to struggle. A lot of the most dictatorial nations have the put democratic in their name.

Avatar image for Baconstrip78
Baconstrip78

1854

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#70  Edited By Baconstrip78
Member since 2013 • 1854 Posts

@kittennose: I’m only commenting on the name. At worst the antifa throw rocks at police and spray paint cars. Hardly on the same level as dictators.

Avatar image for kittennose
KittenNose

2470

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 5

#71 KittenNose
Member since 2014 • 2470 Posts

@Baconstrip78: They commonly attack folks and encourage others to do the same.

Avatar image for Baconstrip78
Baconstrip78

1854

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#73 Baconstrip78
Member since 2013 • 1854 Posts

@kittennose: Yes, but some of them deserve it. KKk and neo Nazis deserve to be beaten.

Avatar image for kittennose
KittenNose

2470

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 5

#74 KittenNose
Member since 2014 • 2470 Posts

@Baconstrip78: Congratulations, you sound like a brownshirt. Though I have a funny feeling your opinion about if you deserve to be beaten is going to be radically different.

Avatar image for Baconstrip78
Baconstrip78

1854

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#75  Edited By Baconstrip78
Member since 2013 • 1854 Posts

@kittennose: No, my grandfather had it right, kid. Nazis get the blowtorch or the bullet, not a megaphone and open ears. KKK get the noose, which is what they gave African Americans when they were at their height of power.

Avatar image for kittennose
KittenNose

2470

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 5

#76 KittenNose
Member since 2014 • 2470 Posts

@Baconstrip78: It is always sad to see folks use their freedom of speech to advocate violence against other people using their freedom of speech. Particularly when the justification is that they advocate violence.

The only distinction between you and a brownshirt is your target.

Avatar image for n64dd
N64DD

13167

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#77 N64DD
Member since 2015 • 13167 Posts

@joebones5000 said:

The republican party just doesn't make sense...

I am going to agree with you on this one.

Avatar image for JimB
JimB

3871

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#78 JimB
Member since 2002 • 3871 Posts

Republicans do not run in this district because it is impossible to win. The guy running is a nut case who claim to be a Republican even though he has no values of a Republican. He is more akin to the Democrats.

Avatar image for nintendoboy16
nintendoboy16

41542

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 43

User Lists: 14

#79  Edited By nintendoboy16
Member since 2007 • 41542 Posts

@JimB said:

Republicans do not run in this district because it is impossible to win. The guy running is a nut case who claim to be a Republican even though he has no values of a Republican. He is more akin to the Democrats.

Lol. Just lol.

Besides your "Democrats are the true Nazi's" comment. You do realize your boy Trump won states/districts no one thought he would, right? Again, learn nothing from 2016?

Avatar image for theone86
theone86

22669

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#80 theone86
Member since 2003 • 22669 Posts

My guess is that he wins. It's a majority white district with a LOT of racial resentment. The Democrat currently holding the seat is so conservative as to almost be a Republican himself. No one who supports the Democratic platform is going to show up to support him in the general, and enough of his voters are going to peel off to support the Nazi.

@kittennose said:

Is it too late for him to be opposed?

I understand this is a moronic stunt and the individual knows he can not win, but at the same time it seems to me that the GOP has a moral responsibility to get someone down there to crush him, even if they are doomed to lose in November.

GOP and moral in the same sentence? LOL!

Avatar image for JimB
JimB

3871

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 5

User Lists: 0

#81 JimB
Member since 2002 • 3871 Posts

@tryit said:

and for the record

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

'is the ideologyand set of practices associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party in Nazi Germany and of other far-right groups.'

if you follow the ideology of socialism you are called...a socialist

It was the NY Times that made it the far right because they didn't want the communist associated with socialists in Germany. They both have the same doctrine.

Avatar image for tryit
TryIt

13157

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#82  Edited By TryIt
Member since 2017 • 13157 Posts

@JimB said:
@tryit said:

and for the record

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

'is the ideologyand set of practices associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party in Nazi Germany and of other far-right groups.'

if you follow the ideology of socialism you are called...a socialist

It was the NY Times that made it the far right because they didn't want the communist associated with socialists in Germany. They both have the same doctrine.

sorry no you are over complicating I would assume to support the candidate who is a former leader of an organization called The American Nazi Party which is a party of Nazism.

Just like if a candidate was a leader of the American Socialist Movement whose members where....socialists.

it really is that cut and dry, simple as that.

the question you should ask yourself is why are your marching orders to basically support this person? or at min. deflect attention

Avatar image for PurpleMan5000
PurpleMan5000

10531

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#83 PurpleMan5000
Member since 2011 • 10531 Posts

@deeliman said:

Why are nazi's even allowed to run for a political office? In most European countries he'd be thrown in jail.

It's because we're a free country. At least we are until the nazis actually win political offices.

Avatar image for tryit
TryIt

13157

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#84 TryIt
Member since 2017 • 13157 Posts

@PurpleMan5000 said:
@deeliman said:

Why are nazi's even allowed to run for a political office? In most European countries he'd be thrown in jail.

It's because we're a free country. At least we are until the nazis actually win political offices.

causes a new kind of 'PC' problem calling people Nazis when they are actually running for office, kinda have to

Avatar image for n64dd
N64DD

13167

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#85  Edited By N64DD
Member since 2015 • 13167 Posts

@tryit said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@deeliman said:

Why are nazi's even allowed to run for a political office? In most European countries he'd be thrown in jail.

It's because we're a free country. At least we are until the nazis actually win political offices.

causes a new kind of 'PC' problem calling people Nazis when they are actually running for office, kinda have to

We will agree to disagree on the assessment of what he is. We can both agree that this man will not win office.

Avatar image for tryit
TryIt

13157

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#86 TryIt
Member since 2017 • 13157 Posts

@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@deeliman said:

Why are nazi's even allowed to run for a political office? In most European countries he'd be thrown in jail.

It's because we're a free country. At least we are until the nazis actually win political offices.

causes a new kind of 'PC' problem calling people Nazis when they are actually running for office, kinda have to

We will agree to disagree on the assessment of what he is. We can both agree that this man will not win office.

we do not agree on either of those items.

sorry but people on the right will vote for him

Avatar image for n64dd
N64DD

13167

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#87 N64DD
Member since 2015 • 13167 Posts

@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@deeliman said:

Why are nazi's even allowed to run for a political office? In most European countries he'd be thrown in jail.

It's because we're a free country. At least we are until the nazis actually win political offices.

causes a new kind of 'PC' problem calling people Nazis when they are actually running for office, kinda have to

We will agree to disagree on the assessment of what he is. We can both agree that this man will not win office.

we do not agree on either of those items.

sorry but people on the right will vote for him

He won't win.

Avatar image for tryit
TryIt

13157

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#88  Edited By TryIt
Member since 2017 • 13157 Posts

@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@tryit said:

causes a new kind of 'PC' problem calling people Nazis when they are actually running for office, kinda have to

We will agree to disagree on the assessment of what he is. We can both agree that this man will not win office.

we do not agree on either of those items.

sorry but people on the right will vote for him

He won't win.

he is running against...nobody. literally nobody.

Trump won against someone, he has a real honest to god chance and red votes will be casted for him.

have you not noticed that the only group that is calling him 'not a Nazi' are people on the right? he will get the votes

Avatar image for drlostrib
DrLostRib

5931

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

#89  Edited By DrLostRib
Member since 2017 • 5931 Posts

I wonder what he said to get enough signatures. If he was truthful about his positions, that's rather disconcerting

Avatar image for balaminienbgs
BalaminienBGS

68

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#90 BalaminienBGS
Member since 2016 • 68 Posts

Ugh, these Nazis man, they keep popping up, like some sick game of wack-a-mole

Avatar image for n64dd
N64DD

13167

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#92 N64DD
Member since 2015 • 13167 Posts

@joebones5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@joebones5000 said:

The republican party just doesn't make sense...

I am going to agree with you on this one.

*high five*

Avatar image for mrbojangles25
mrbojangles25

58354

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 11

User Lists: 0

#93 mrbojangles25
Member since 2005 • 58354 Posts

@tryit said:
@n64dd said:
@perfect_blue said:

He's not an actual nazi. Man you people are clueless.

I was waiting for someone say the former leader of the American Nazi Party is not actually a Nazi.

I am sure he would love that

lol I like how that makes it OK, too. "Oh he just hates jews, he is not an actual nazi"

To paraphrase someone Not all Republicans are Nazis, but all Nazis are Republican

Avatar image for luckylucious
luckylucious

1198

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#94 luckylucious
Member since 2015 • 1198 Posts
@toast_burner said:

@n64dd: while national socialist is a misnomer as it has little to do with socialism, it's not a false flag as it has always referred to the ideology the Nazis came up with. In fact if you Google national socialism all the results you get are for Nazism

Going to have to agree here my friend. Nazi Germany was actually hyper-state capitalist. The only part of socialism that was involved was that the capitalism was state enforced (Appointed businesses to serve the Govt's causes etc.) Hitler was indeed a big promoter of innovation and private property as long as it was state approved.

Avatar image for nintendoboy16
nintendoboy16

41542

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 43

User Lists: 14

#95 nintendoboy16
Member since 2007 • 41542 Posts

@n64dd said:
@tryit said:
@PurpleMan5000 said:
@deeliman said:

Why are nazi's even allowed to run for a political office? In most European countries he'd be thrown in jail.

It's because we're a free country. At least we are until the nazis actually win political offices.

causes a new kind of 'PC' problem calling people Nazis when they are actually running for office, kinda have to

We will agree to disagree on the assessment of what he is. We can both agree that this man will not win office.

Again, learn nothing from 2016?

Avatar image for theone86
theone86

22669

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#96 theone86
Member since 2003 • 22669 Posts

@balaminienbgs said:

Ugh, these Nazis man, they keep popping up, like some sick game of wack-a-mole

They've always been there. This guy was out protesting the Illinois Holocaust museum when it opened, I must've passed him on my way there. His district has been dominated by white politicians who have used coded language to take advantage of racial resentment for decades. We just mistakenly thought they were a small minority in a generation that made such visible overtures to equality, we were wrong.

@mrbojangles25 said:

lol I like how that makes it OK, too. "Oh he just hates jews, he is not an actual nazi"

To paraphrase someone Not all Republicans are Nazis, but all Nazis are Republican

Jonathan Swift.

Avatar image for deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51

57548

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 19

User Lists: 0

#97 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
Member since 2004 • 57548 Posts

Disgraceful. republicans need to clean up their mess.

Avatar image for ruthaford_jive
ruthaford_jive

519

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#98 ruthaford_jive
Member since 2004 • 519 Posts

Typical media tactic. Get an extreme moron on so they can use a broad brush on the party they don't like. Fox does it with Antifa and far-lefty loons and CNN does it with Nazi idiots and Alt-Right dipshits. Anyone who thinks this (actual) racist is going to win is a fool.

Also. Don't forget. This is America. Anyone can say anything they want. Don't be a fool and try to take away these creep's right to free speech so they slither away into the dark recesses of the world and fester, grow resentful and strike out. Let them out into the sunlight where their dumb ideas can be made fun of... as they should be. Don't get all frightened and scared and tremble like cowards because terrible people can say terrible, but ultimately limp, things. If you take these dying breed of fools seriously, you give them what they want... to be taken seriously.

Avatar image for deactivated-5b19214ec908b
deactivated-5b19214ec908b

25072

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#99 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
Member since 2007 • 25072 Posts

@ruthaford_jive: what antifa far left loon ran unopposed in the democrat party?

Avatar image for ruthaford_jive
ruthaford_jive

519

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#100 ruthaford_jive
Member since 2004 • 519 Posts

@toast_burner: I cannot think of any individual. With that being said, the Democratic party is splint roughly along three ideological paths currently, regardless of their collective left leaning aims. The three wings are: Centrists, Bernie-Socialists types, and the Intersectionalists. The Centrists keep trying to get middle America's votes back. The Bernie-Socialist types are focusing on socialist economic policies, and the Intersectionalists are all about social justice. And as much as they get along, given their collective aim, they also fight and bicker. Both the Bernie-Socialist types and the Intersectionalists main ideologies are very much inline with a lot of what Antifa is all about, excepting the Antifa loons that just like the bust shit and use political rallies as a means to that end. So two wings of the party are fully crazy, and they don't even need outlying nuts to represent them... they can do that all themselves.

Beyond that, what does your question have to do with anything? My original points still stand, and you didn't address them, you just changed the direction of the conversation toward whataboutism.