Do you think Joe Biden's gaffes will cost him to lose?

Trump is going to win.

Ah well, at least I can take solace in the fact he is a do-nothing president.

@LJS9502_basic: Nah bro. Trump won the debates on talking about NAFTA alone. The bullying was just icing on the cake.

In your opinion perhaps. But the general concensus was that Hillary won. By quite a fair margin too.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-early-polls-suggest-a-post-debate-bounce-for-clinton/

Hillary's Polling improved by roughly 3% between the first and third debate while trump remained roughly the same (jumping up by a measly 0.4%).

@Maroxad: Sure. And I remember when polls showed Hillary winning by a landslide. Funny thing, those polls.

You know she did win the popular vote so the polls were correct.

That is such a failed argument it´s getting boring listening to it.

I know you conservatives don't like facts. It's getting boring that you continue to reinforce that though. If you aren't going to contribute to the discussion then don't post.

Facts are one thing, but distortion is another.

And sure Clinton got more "votes" but it´s not about the popular vote, it´s about as you democrats have in your primaries about the individual states and their "votes"

Relevant:

Here's one from a TYT commentator, who is obviously not a fan of Trump (skip to 3:45 to see what I mean):

Continue to deny it at your own peril. Trump may not be the most articulate person out there, but he can make it through a 90-minute rally while Biden is at the point where they're not even letting him stay on the stage for more than a few minutes.

But if the media works hard enough, he may still win and they'll just use the 25th Amendment to replace him a few hours after he totally butchers his inauguration speech.

@ad1x2: They didn't use the 25th to remove trump so I doubt it.

Trump may be out there sometimes but he's nowhere near as bad as Biden. The fact that you're ignoring that because he's probably the best chance to unseat Trump is laughable, and even Trump-hating TYT is pointing it out.

I don't think either should be president. So don't tell me what I think.

So you’re going to vote third party if Biden wins the nomination? Or just stay home?

Going by your posts, it appears you’re going to take the third option and vote for Biden anyway just because he’s not Trump.

I'm voting trump out......yes. But in regard to mental faculties trump is no better. Just listen to trump speak without a teleprompter when he's off script. AND he's dangerous for the democracy of the country and I can't see Biden OR Sanders be that danger.

Even though I'm no longer serving I still believe in the oath. Shame some current military don't.

I’m not going to listen to a guy that is practically implying that the military should mutiny agains their sitting commander in chief if they have any honor and is also in favor of gun confiscation tell me who is and isn’t following the oaths of enlistment and office.

If Trump loses reelection then I’ll be just fine. Trump will lose to the establishment and other than a few minor changes normal for a party shift it’s going to be business as usual after they boot Biden out of office for his early-stage Alzheimer‘s or dementia symptoms and his VP takes over.

On the other hand, if Trump wins reelection I am legitimately concerned about your mental well-being at this point. Take that as you will.

Never mentioned mutiny. Stop the hysterics. I said they should believe in the oath and not defend the indefensible. Why are trump supporters only able to see in black and white? Logical thinking would do them some good. Including yourself since you're going off the deep end with exaggerations. I think it's your mental health that's at issue.

You are splitting hairs here, you pretty much implied that the military should uphold their oath and go against their commander in chief.

Your exact words were

"Even though I'm no longer serving I still believe in the oath. Shame some current military don't."

Nope. Not splitting hairs. When trump doesn't something anti Constitutional he should be called out for it...….not defended. Period.

Again...…..stop assuming hysterical conclusions. I find adx said repugnant.

Practically means you haven't literally called for a mutiny. But you are using the oath as justification to imply that anybody in the military that follows their oath would not support Donald Trump under any circumstances outside of the absolute bare minimum to prevent them from being arrested for insubordination or contempt towards officials.

Look, I am not going to gaslight you and say that Trump is a beacon of honor, or he acts very presidential all of the time or any of that other BS hardcore Trump supporters do. He is very, very flawed, and if he didn't go against Hillary Clinton he probably would have lost in 2016. If he went against someone stronger than Biden, or (assuming Sanders wins the nomination by some miracle) a guy that is running on socialism this November, then he may have ended up being the first one-term president since George H.W. Bush.

The problem is you want Trump gone so much that you and other posters in this forum are literally ignoring the dumpster fire Biden is right now. From the obvious cognitive issues to him being on film touching little kids, you're gaslighting by saying "well, Trump's so much worse, so I'm going with Biden anyway" and while that gets a lot of high fives in this forum it doesn't translate to the same thing in the real world.

The media is doing it too because they want Trump gone, but they don't want Bernie Sanders to be the one that gets rid of him. That should tell you something about Bernie and their view of socialism, and it should tell you that the media must already view Biden as a placeholder until his VP takes over if he beats Trump this fall. Here's another one for you from The Hill telling you what you're denying just because you think Trump is that much worse:

Now you're telling me what I ignore. I haven't supported Biden at all. I don't like any of the three candidates but one will win. As for your constant whining about mental faculties...…...of the three only Sanders seems to have them. But you deride Biden while supporting trump. If you listen to him speak you should be concerned about his mental health as well but you aren't. Which is a double standard.

I'm using the oath to say that anyone that took it shouldn't defend trump when he blatantly ignores it. But you make excuses for him. You are his apologist here. And that's not a good look.

Yes, you are splitting hairs.

You implied a point, it may not what you mean and what you think, but the sentence on its own stand hard on that implication.

And you may come with "stop assuming" but even you do it all the time when you are met with ambiguous posts.

Anyways i am sure you didn´t mean anything else then they should vote a certain way, which is your right and I am not going to bother with the holy, how are you sure your opinion is the divine truth.

Don't tell me what I said. You're wrong. Believing in the oath does NOT mean the only outcome is mutiny. You lack critical thinking so I don't expect you to understand but you're trying to force an agenda that was NOT implied in my statement.

@LJS9502_basic: 3 million votes is a "landslide" in a national election? No it's not. The polls were wrong. Just stop.

And don´t tell me what the oath, I by the way, also took means.

You, claim that they should uphold the oath and go against the president which you hold an opinion of does not uphold the oath, he took at his inauguration, So what made you the bearer of the divine truth?.

Also, you did not specify the means which they should take to "go against the commander-in-chief" So you can´t complain considering the normal rhetoric used, that some on this board find it to be close to the line and also for some over it.

I don't give a rat's ass what you think it means. You misconstrue everything all the time.

You mean "you don´t agree with me, so you misconstrue everything"

That is a very elitist opinion to have, sure you are not far-left?

No that is not what I mean.

Then you should just lay out what you mean. I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you aren’t literally suggesting that people in the military stage a mutiny if they want to prove that they are not okay with whatever you are accusing the president of doing you personally feel is illegal. But I am inclined that my earlier suggestion that you think that they should do the absolute bare minimum to not get arrested sounds more likely.

While you’re challenging me by saying that I forgot about the oath, there’s something you have seemed to have forgotten since you have gotten out: there are people from all walks of life in the military. Where else can I sit at a table in the middle of the desert and play spades with a guy from Chicago that lived in Obama’s district on my left and a guy from the reddest part of rural North Carolina on my right, with us all getting along just fine?

It’s good to get out of echo chambers and meet people that may not agree with you politically without dismissing them as bigoted morons or whatever stereotypes are going around about the other side. Have you ever considered that I lean the way I do because I have friends from all walks of life and don’t exclusively surround myself with people that agree with me politically?

I used clear English. Never once did I mention open rebellion. That is the fault of the reader and his agenda...….in this case yours.

I haven't forgotten anything so stall the arrogance. You will sprain your wrist patting yourself on the back.

Actually after dealing with trump supporters during his administration my opinion of them went lower. No echo chamber here. I form opinions on experience. And they don't impress me.