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#701 deactivated-5fae21e61a964
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SO I just bought Starcraft II, and it took all day to download and Im psyched to finally play it, but when I start the launcher the screen goes black initially, like the game is starting, then it closes and pops up a message saying something like "Starcraft II needs a patch. Would you like to download and install the patch now?" But when I click OK, the screen again goes black for a second before closing again, and another window with the same messgae popping up "Starcraft II needs a patch. Would you like to download and install the patch now?" When I run Starcraft II Editor it gives me a similar message. Help!

Tetsudai

Is your firewall blocking SCII?

But to update, go to My Computer -> C -> Program files (x86 for me) -> Starcfrat II -> Support. Just open up Blizzard Downloader and see how it goes.

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#702 General_X
Member since 2003 • 9137 Posts

My friend told me it sucked.

roflcopter317
He mad cause he bad?
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#703 deactivated-5fae21e61a964
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[QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

My friend told me it sucked.

General_X

He mad cause he bad?

Different strokes for different folks.

Or is that too hard to see from your horse? =P

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#704 Vfanek
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[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="roflcopter317"]

My friend told me it sucked.

Sheppard212

He mad cause he bad?

Different strokes for different folks.

Or is that too hard to see from your horse? =P

Only folks I've met who thinks SC2 sucks are downright terrible at the game, just goddamn incompetent. Coincidence? Who knows.
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#705 N30F3N1X
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Different strokes for different folks.

Or is that too hard to see from your horse? =P

Sheppard212

Nevermind, that guy's just bashing SC2 because it's a PC exclusive. Daily business for SW folk :P

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#706 greatsite25
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how good is sc2!! can anyone say zerg rush?
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#707 Vfanek
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how good is sc2!! can anyone say zerg rush?greatsite25
What the hell is a 'zerg rush'? I keep hearing it but if there's any race that sucks at rushes it's zerg. Not counting 6-7 pool all ins.
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#709 N30F3N1X
Member since 2009 • 8923 Posts

"proper" and "razor" don't go in the same sentence.

If you want to play a MP game properly, you have to buy it.

Also, we aren't allowed to talk about piracy here.

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#710 daedes
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So many newbs in this game that dont know how to plat RTS :P
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#711 deactivated-5fae21e61a964
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So many newbs in this game that dont know how to plat RTS :Pdaedes

Because the game's supposed to be chalk full of professional gamers of various nationalities and playstyles, amirite? The mere concept of players new to RTS gaming, with an RTS semi-friendly to them, existing on the lower rung sof the ladder is infeasible!

Unless you're the guy that purposely bombed all his five entry games in order to terrorize the bronze ladder players with MMMs....

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#712 Arach666
Member since 2009 • 23286 Posts

[QUOTE="Sheppard212"]

Different strokes for different folks.

Or is that too hard to see from your horse? =P

N30F3N1X

Nevermind, that guy's just bashing SC2 because it's a PC exclusive. Daily business for SW folk :P

Indeed,I´ve seen him bash PC games at SW all the time.

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#713 Vfanek
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[QUOTE="daedes"]So many newbs in this game that dont know how to plat RTS :PSheppard212

Because the game's supposed to be chalk full of professional gamers of various nationalities and playstyles, amirite? The mere concept of players new to RTS gaming, with an RTS semi-friendly to them, existing on the lower rung sof the ladder is infeasible!

Unless you're the guy that purposely bombed all his five entry games in order to terrorize the bronze ladder players with MMMs....

I did that to terrorize the bronze ladder with burrowed infestors. Who says we can't enjoy the game on our own terms?
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#714 SmokieX
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I'm in the bronze league and I was wondering if it's possible to rank up to silver. When I played my placement matches, I hardly knew what I was doing:(

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#715 krazy-blazer
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I don't hate the game, I just prefer macro-management over micro-management.
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#716 Vfanek
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I don't hate the game, I just prefer macro-management over micro-management.krazy-blazer
Which is the most crucial part of the game...
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#717 N30F3N1X
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I'm in the bronze league and I was wondering if it's possible to rank up to silver. When I played my placement matches, I hardly knew what I was doing:(

SmokieX

The placement matches are hardly relevant, just call them a "head start".

The matchmaking system is balanced to put you where you have 1:1 win/loss ratio. If your ratio goes up, you'll be pitted against higher and higher ranking players, until you get to 1:1 again.

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#718 visceron
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I'm in the bronze league and I was wondering if it's possible to rank up to silver. When I played my placement matches, I hardly knew what I was doing:(

SmokieX
Yes, you can get moved up. I know I have done it a couple of times.
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#719 grafficsak
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I'm in the bronze league and I was wondering if it's possible to rank up to silver. When I played my placement matches, I hardly knew what I was doing:(

SmokieX

Youll get silver, trust me. There hardly isn't a difference between Bronze-Silver, just learn to play your race and youll get over the steep learning curve. Yea, this game actually has a real learning curve, thats why people love it so much. ~Plat player, not diamond :(

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#720 MrLions
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1v1's are such a joke....bleh.......and Blizzard isnt fixing any of the unbalance issues....for goodness sakes I lost to someone with no expansions and just spammed marines....thats now what this game is about -_____-
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1v1's are such a joke....bleh.......and Blizzard isnt fixing any of the unbalance issues....for goodness sakes I lost to someone with no expansions and just spammed marines....thats now what this game is about -_____-MrLions
Banelings, tanks, high templars, force fields/zealots, colossi. Thank me later.
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#722 kazakauskas
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The thing with balance is this : it can be noted only on top top lvl plays , where every mistake counts (if you are 1500 diamond , you still arent top top player) . As for mid/high lvl ppl who say game is unbalanced - you just lose because of you , not game .

For post above : marrines is the most easy thing to counter (colossi , HT's , siedge tanks , banelings) .

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#723 kazakauskas
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BTW , anyone excited about Nada coming to sc2 ? :P

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#725 Mograine
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[QUOTE="MrLions"]1v1's are such a joke....bleh.......and Blizzard isnt fixing any of the unbalance issues....for goodness sakes I lost to someone with no expansions and just spammed marines....thats now what this game is about -_____-N30F3N1X

That means you suck very hard, it's not a balance issue.

QFT.

One could argue about difficulty to handle early Zerg play, however saying "I lost to someone who just spammed marines" means you really don't know what you're doing.

Take what Vfanek suggested to heart.

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#726 Crimsader
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BTW , anyone excited about Nada coming to sc2 ? :P

kazakauskas
I think he'll fail at SC2 :P
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#727 deactivated-5fae21e61a964
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="MrLions"]1v1's are such a joke....bleh.......and Blizzard isnt fixing any of the unbalance issues....for goodness sakes I lost to someone with no expansions and just spammed marines....thats now what this game is about -_____-Mograine

That means you suck very hard, it's not a balance issue.

QFT.

One could argue about difficulty to handle early Zerg play, however saying "I lost to someone who just spammed marines" means you really don't know what you're doing.

Take what Vfanek suggested to heart.

I especially like Vfanek's helpful input. =P

Probably the most versitile unit in the game has to be the Marine, it's easy to use, spam and chump block with.

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#728 Vfanek
Member since 2006 • 7719 Posts

[QUOTE="Mograine"]

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

That means you suck very hard, it's not a balance issue.

Sheppard212

QFT.

One could argue about difficulty to handle early Zerg play, however saying "I lost to someone who just spammed marines" means you really don't know what you're doing.

Take what Vfanek suggested to heart.

I especially like Vfanek's helpful input. =P

Probably the most versitile unit in the game has to be the Marine, it's easy to use, spam and chump block with.

It also has 45 (+10) hp, but -10 because he'll stim at least once. It's a good unit, no doubt. But if anyone is losing to solely marines he's doing something very wrong.
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#729 deactivated-5fae21e61a964
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[QUOTE="Sheppard212"]

I especially like Vfanek's helpful input. =P

Probably the most versitile unit in the game has to be the Marine, it's easy to use, spam and chump block with.

Vfanek

It also has 45 (+10) hp, but -10 because he'll stim at least once. It's a good unit, no doubt. But if anyone is losing to solely marines he's doing something very wrong.

That I'd agree with, but I was pointing towards the Marine's effectiveness even much later into a game.

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#730 Vfanek
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[QUOTE="Vfanek"][QUOTE="Sheppard212"]

I especially like Vfanek's helpful input. =P

Probably the most versitile unit in the game has to be the Marine, it's easy to use, spam and chump block with.

Sheppard212

It also has 45 (+10) hp, but -10 because he'll stim at least once. It's a good unit, no doubt. But if anyone is losing to solely marines he's doing something very wrong.

That I'd agree with, but I was pointing towards the Marine's effectiveness even much later into a game.

Meh, that can be argued. HTs or infestors/banelings make them close to useless in certain scenarios unless you really outmicro your opponent.
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#731 visceron
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[QUOTE="SmokieX"]

I'm in the bronze league and I was wondering if it's possible to rank up to silver. When I played my placement matches, I hardly knew what I was doing:(

N30F3N1X

The placement matches are hardly relevant, just call them a "head start".

The matchmaking system is balanced to put you where you have 1:1 win/loss ratio. If your ratio goes up, you'll be pitted against higher and higher ranking players, until you get to 1:1 again.

Since I managed to get a winning record is this why I keep getting pitted up against platinum and diamond players? I'm still in silver and gold leagues.
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#732 kazakauskas
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[QUOTE="kazakauskas"]

BTW , anyone excited about Nada coming to sc2 ? :P

Crimsader

I think he'll fail at SC2 :P

Im scared of that :(

But he played pretty well against TLO without too much practise . My guess is that he will be one of the top players , better than most of the best players now , but when SC2 kicks in korea , he will fall to new players .

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#733 MrLions
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2 straight terran wins as zerg "now apologize".

The 3M strat go to hell.

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[QUOTE="Crimsader"][QUOTE="kazakauskas"]

BTW , anyone excited about Nada coming to sc2 ? :P

kazakauskas

I think he'll fail at SC2 :P

Im scared of that :(

But he played pretty well against TLO without too much practise . My guess is that he will be one of the top players , better than most of the best players now , but when SC2 kicks in korea , he will fall to new players .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hs-6zJxYRI&feature=player_embedded
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#735 kazakauskas
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[QUOTE="kazakauskas"]

[QUOTE="Crimsader"] I think he'll fail at SC2 :PVfanek

Im scared of that :(

But he played pretty well against TLO without too much practise . My guess is that he will be one of the top players , better than most of the best players now , but when SC2 kicks in korea , he will fall to new players .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hs-6zJxYRI&feature=player_embedded

He played with ~1200 diamond acc , but on the other hand he almost didnt practise before that turney .

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#736 Vfanek
Member since 2006 • 7719 Posts

He plays faster and is more accurate than most current top players without too much practice. I doubt he'll "fall to new players".

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#737 kazakauskas
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He plays faster and is more accurate than most current top players without too much practice. I doubt he'll "fall to new players".

Vfanek

Well, same as he fell to the new BW stars . I said that he will be on top for some time , but eventually some new young player in korea will rise :D

And nice to see that hes 56 rank in world on sc2ranks .

Will be 1st terran im really rooting for :P

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#738 3aNkabot
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I got the game 2 days ago, friends nagged on me till I bought it. I'm glad I have, its freaking amazing how many multiplayer modes there are, all the reviews I checked did not do the game any justice .
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#739 Baranga
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I lost interest in this game. Played it for less than 20 hours, most of them in singleplayer. I enjoy it when I'm playing, yet I can barely push myself to start it.

I like strategy games and the original :/ Something's missing from this one, can't figure out why I'd rather play Any Other Game...

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#740 kazakauskas
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Second time in turnament (witch woudve been lan) that bnet went down... Yey for no LAN :D

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#741 kazakauskas
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I lost interest in this game. Played it for less than 20 hours, most of them in singleplayer. I enjoy it when I'm playing, yet I can barely push myself to start it.

I like strategy games and the original :/ Something's missing from this one, can't figure out why I'd rather play Any Other Game...

Baranga

Actually i need to make myself play it too , but after few games im hooked :S and its always like this .

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#742 Dennislol123
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Im just curious what you would want improved and how?
How can this campaign be better? Im just blown away from it and im only about 1 missions deep.

The campaign is hardly challenging at all. I was 100% total RTS noob when I bought SC2 and even I found the campaign very easy.
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#743 N30F3N1X
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^

Show me the Kerrigan or at least Mengsk avatar pl0x.

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#744 Vfanek
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^

Show me the Kerrigan or at least Mengsk avatar pl0x.

N30F3N1X
Meh, achievements are just arbitrary restrictions. Some will enjoy them but it's not an excuse to make an easy campaign 'hard'. A lot of games fails to realize this. That said brutal difficulty for the SC2 campaign was brilliant, challenging yet never felt cheap. The times I had to reload it felt like it was my fault, not some ridiculous AI 'cheese'. The final mission was an exception though, it was either impossible or easy as hell. You just needed to figure out the gimmick (tanks or hive mind). Bleh, I literally AFK'd through the last 50% on brutal.
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#745 SKaREO
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You guys should be focusing on how the game was intended to be played which is multiplayer, all the way. The single player campaigns are nice when I have no internet, or if I'm just wiped out and want to warm up a bit. The achievement system, just like any other game, but honestly I think this game could do without it, especially in multiplayer because it ruins the sportsmanship of the players who's only goal is to achieve the "shiny stuff" ala portraits. Some guys went as far as to rush for the Dark Voice portrait which requires over 3000 wins as Random, their strategy was simply, the worker rush, over and over and over again. If they felt they probably wouldn't win, they would immediately quit the game. Very poor sportsmanship there. Aside from this, the game is spectacular, and Blizzard is giving it ample support with game balancing patches already out. It's really great to have top level multiplayer gaming back!
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#747 murekkep
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Found this on Macworld UK. Cheesy cutscenes and voice acting? Hmm...

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#748 Darkenoid
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Found this on Macworld UK. Cheesy cutscenes and voice acting? Hmm...

murekkep

That's odd they would say that. I liked the cut scenes a lot and the voice acting is great. This is only my 2nd RTS game I ever played but I think the game is great so far. ( I haven't end it yet)

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#749 Vfanek
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That's odd they would say that. I liked the cut scenes a lot and the voice acting is great. This is only my 2nd RTS game I ever played but I think the game is great so far. ( I haven't end it yet)

Darkenoid

Prepare for a speech near the ending that will literally make you crap brie.

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#750 the_bi99man
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Hey my buddy just installed Starcraft 2, and its doin the update, and it has been looping. It finishes the update and then starts again immediately, and we can't get the game to open. He's definitely installed the version 1.1.1 patch 3 times now. Any ideas?