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#51 Velocitas8
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I got a great deal on my two GTS's, got both for under $300

sorry your luck is not as good as mine, only contradiction here is you saying you are asstraight as an arrow, when in all reality you go home and dress up as David Hyde Pierce at night. YOU lose man.

edeekeos

2x8800GTS, even at that price, cost about the same as a single 8800GTX.

Even if you think a single 8800GTX will outperform your two GTSs, WHY would you buy the SLI solution over the GTX?

As for the rest of your post: resorting to personal insults of a person you know nothing about? Grasping at straws, are we?

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#52 31337r4v3n
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i give up on you, there is no teaching the slow. you must have an understanding of a 15 year old and an iq of 50 to talk to me...sorrybut the small bus looks unconfortable, and you have to ride it every morning? ouch...
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#53 nathris
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Not everyone has access to newegg. I'd just like to point out that as long as you don't want to play games over 1600x1200 and you aren't a settings whore that needs the absolute maximum, the 320 GTS performs just as well as the 640 gts, sure you won't be able to enable ultra high textures and whatnot, but the 320 is $270 at NCIX, compared to the $560 GTX. That effectively puts them in different price ranges. Personally if I had $600 to spend on my system I would get a gts 320 and spend the rest on a cpu and actually have my system run better than if I were to just buy a gtx.
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#54 Velocitas8
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BUT YOU DID SAY THAT A GTS WAS JUST AS FAST AS A GTX BY SAYING..AND I QUOTE YOU..." IF YOU CANT MAX IT OUT ON A GTS YOU CANT MAX IT OUT ON A GTX..." did you not say that? by saying that you said there was no performace gain from either and in fact they are the same card hence making yourself look bad because anyone knows you get what you pay for.....WOW you are one of a kind.....that was also pretty funny edeekeos:P

31337r4v3n

Yes, I said that. But it's not my fault you made (extremely flawed) assumptions based on that statement. Especially considering I said many times that the GTX outperforms the GTS by 20% in some benchmarks. I never implied that the GTX wasn't the superior card.

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#55 edeekeos
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what you dont understand Velocitas8 is i meant i got BOTH as in TWO(2) for under 300, not each for under 300.

LMAO at this entire thread, r4ve3n owned you up and down the block..

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#56 31337r4v3n
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no if you can only afford so much you buy a gts as they are good cards....later on after you have more money you buy another one because you can use the one you already have and you dont have enough for a gtx but if you buy another you will be as fast as a gtx....get it yet...why can everyone else understand what you cannot??? grabbing at straws are we? haha
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#57 31337r4v3n
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even a 20 percent gain puts the gtx at playable levels where the gts is not....28 fps with a gts = unplayable....20 percent more which is 34 fps from a gtx is playable....got it yet or do you still want some, at this point tho you cant get much lower so i would stop
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#58 31337r4v3n
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and thats only 20 percent gain (according to you) which is MINIMAL.....
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#59 Velocitas8
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what you dont understand Velocitas8 is i meant i got BOTH as in TWO(2) for under 300, not each for under 300.edeekeos

You can't even get a SINGLE 8800GTS for that much :lol:

Totally believable :roll:

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#60 portujoel5
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Why don't we go out and get 2 GTXs each? I'm sure nothing can beat that
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#61 31337r4v3n
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youc an get an 8800 gts on newegg for 270....do your hw

you can get an 8800 gtx for 475...twice as much...i think not

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#62 Velocitas8
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even a 20 percent gain puts the gtx at playable levels where the gts is not....28 fps with a gts = unplayable....20 percent more which is 34 fps from a gtx is playable....got it yet or do you still want some, at this point tho you cant get much lower so i would stop31337r4v3n

28 fps is just as "playable" as 34 fps. Especially in a game like World in Conflict where a poor framerate doesn't significantly effect gameplay.

In a FPS, neither 28 fps nor 34 fps is playable IMO.

Your retorts are starting to get boring.

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#63 Velocitas8
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youc an get an 8800 gts on newegg for 270....do your hw31337r4v3n

Yep, a 320MB. Most 8800GTS 320MB models are in the $300-340 range.

you can get an 8800 gtx for 475...twice as much...i think not31137r4v3n

Interesting, I don't recall claiming the 8800GTX was twice as much.

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#65 edeekeos
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tiger direct.. 269.99

research buddy, thats what its all about.

btw, if ya got friends that want to upgrade from their 8800gts's, it helps out alot too. i DID get BOTH for under 300 and im just as fast as a $550 GTX, im proud of my decision...... 'what about future proofing.'yousay.. Well next year i wont have an an 8 series card, ill have graduated to something entirely better.

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#66 31337r4v3n
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[QUOTE="31337r4v3n"]

youc an get an 8800 gts on newegg for 270....do your hwVelocitas8

Yep, a 320MB. Most 8800GTS 320MB models are in the $300-340 range.

okay and an msi gtx is 475 after rebate...tell me how that is twice as much??? i feel sorry for you at this point i really do. ill pray for you tonight.

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#68 31337r4v3n
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[QUOTE="31337r4v3n"]

youc an get an 8800 gts on newegg for 270....do your hwVelocitas8

Yep, a 320MB. Most 8800GTS 320MB models are in the $300-340 range.

you can get an 8800 gtx for 475...twice as much...i think not31137r4v3n

Interesting, I don't recall claiming the 8800GTX was twice as much.

nope but you did say price to performance ratio was better on the gts...ill pay an extra 125 bucks for 6 to 12 more months of gaming out of a graphics card any day...wait till crysis comes out and well see what you say about performce then...."God please help the slow people..."

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#69 Velocitas8
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in a fps 34 is playable you infintile....like i said this is like trying to talk to a retarted monkey...you are arguing a point everyone knows you cant win....you have graphs and charts and people who have been doing this for years in your face yet you still dont listen...that either makes you dumb or ignorant...which are you?31337r4v3n

34 fps is NOT playable to me in a FPS game. Especially in fast-paced titles. I couldn't care less if you have lower standards.

I always find these technical discussions with people who have no idea what they're talking about rather amusing. Especially the ones who act like they understand technical terms, but really have no clue. I'm still trying to figure out what the hell you meant by "fill up the frame buffer"...

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#70 Velocitas8
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nope but you did say price to performance ratio was better on the gts...ill pay an extra 125 bucks for 6 to 12 more months of gaming out of a graphics card any day...wait till crysis comes out and well see what you say about performce then...."God please help the slow people..."31337r4v3n

That $125+ is better saved for a future upgrade to an even better video card.

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#72 31337r4v3n
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play world in conflict and your 320 meg will be pwnt all the while you will be reading "ran out of v-mem" turning up the game settings makes textures bigger thus taking up more memory than you video card has...DRASTICALLY slowing down game performace..instead of your gpu pulling things from memory it has to clear it then fill it because you ran out of memory....my 640 meg card got slowed down from this in WIC (not even close to the type of games comming out soon) but my 768 meg card does not run out of what is alloted....you are quite amusing...you are one of those people that try to say the earth is really flat because you are dillusional...
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#73 31337r4v3n
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the human eye cannot differentiate between 34 fps and 70 fps....im sorry you were born with cyborg eyes. ill pray for you.

did you know that a movie in a movie theater plays at 24 fps...do you not go see movies because of this??? PWNT!!!!

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#74 Velocitas8
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play world in conflict and your 320 meg will be pwnt all the while you will be reading "ran out of v-mem" turning up the game settings makes textures bigger thus taking up more memory than you video card has...DRASTICALLY slowing down game performace..instead of your gpu pulling things from memory it has to clear it then fill it because you ran out of memory....my 640 meg card got slowed down from this in WIC (not even close to the type of games comming out soon) but my 768 meg card does not run out of what is alloted....you are quite amusing...you are one of those people that try to say the earth is really flat because you are dillusional...31337r4v3n

Every one of your posts consists of you making absurd assumptions, and you end up looking like a complete ass because your arguments center around them. When did I ever state I own a 8800GTS 320MB? Where did I ever say I own or play World in Conflict? And what is this garbage about me owning a PS3? LOL.

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#75 Velocitas8
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the human eye cannot differentiate between 34 fps and 70 fps....im sorry you were born with cyborg eyes. ill pray for you.

did you know that a movie in a movie theater plays at 24 fps...do you not go see movies because of this??? PWNT!!!!

31337r4v3n

Yet more uneducated nonsense. There's a huge difference in motion fluidity between 34 fps and 70 fps. Especially in fast-paced games, like FPS titles.

Yes, I knew movie theaters played at framerates in the mid-20s. So do many other standardized movie formats.

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#76 31337r4v3n
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how am i assuming what science has proven? how am i assuming what countless weblinks i have sent you have proven...i will never argue about something of the likes of which i do not know. i have been building and ocling computers for 12 years...this time around the gtx is a better buy. so as far as assumptions, I assume nothing. except for the fact that you have a gts since you are saying that if you cant max something out on a mid grade card you cant on a top tier card....wait, you own neither???!?!? why are you even here?
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#77 saintvalentine
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Like I said. Why don't we all agree that dual 8800GTX is the way to go?

portujoel5


Becos is hella expensive and games like World in Conflict are so bad optimized that dont even use sli well -.-" is better to get one instead or wait for the new 9800 GTX ^^.

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I got my 8800gts(320).

And i can say i am proud of it, right now i play the crysisBETA with most setting on high at 1280x1024 with 4AA with 27 stable fps and is very playable for me and the beta is a build from 2006 witch doesnt even has optimization.

Oh and guys, even though WiC is such a cool game...it doesnt deserve a GTX...FFS just lower textures to medium and the game is playable even with antialiasing!!! and most of your time is going to be expended seeing the sun shafts and the smoke...not thetanks textures witch are great visually on medium ^^.

Whatever is my simple opinion and oh!....i got my GTS for 220 bucks :P i bought it from a friend who didnt have money and needed it ASAP.

The best buy i have ever done.
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#78 TotalX5
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This is the greatest thread ever.... constant triple posting, yelling out in caps, and throwing insults and using of the word "pwnt and owned".

They really need to add some internet olympics.

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#80 mrbojangles25
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Yeah I would also recommend a GTX. And since you want to play games withhigh agraphical performance I would suggest you buy some more RAM, upgrade to like 4 Gigs or sum. Especially for games like Crysis.

KiwiforBrain

Theres a little something out there called money, and believe it or not it is the primary driving force behind what people choose to buy for their PCs.

Sure, a 500+ dollar video card would be nice, but thats also extremely wasteful for something that is onlya hobby. A 280 dollar 8800GTS 320mb version, however, is a good compromise. Its got the best frames per second to dollar ratio of all the cards.

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#81 31337r4v3n
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HAHAHAHA totalx5 is da man. thats hilarious!:D
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#82 edeekeos
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TotalX5.... by far the greatest post ever. Nice work.
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#83 31337r4v3n
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[QUOTE="KiwiforBrain"]

Yeah I would also recommend a GTX. And since you want to play games withhigh agraphical performance I would suggest you buy some more RAM, upgrade to like 4 Gigs or sum. Especially for games like Crysis.

mrbojangles25

Theres a little something out there called money, and believe it or not it is the primary driving force behind what people choose to buy for their PCs.

Sure, a 500+ dollar video card would be nice, but thats also extremely wasteful for something that is onlya hobby. A 280 dollar 8800GTS 320mb version, however, is a good compromise. Its got the best frames per second to dollar ratio of all the cards.

I Totally agree that a 320 meg card is a good compromise...i just owned one and loved it. the thing that set me off was saything hthat if you cant max it out on a gts you cant on a gtx essentially making them the same card. i upgraded recently to a gtx and WOW there is a world of difference. and a 280 dollar graphics card is great especially since in a couple months when you need more performance you can spend a paltry 280 dollars again and have the performace of a gtx without the initial cost

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#84 Velocitas8
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so i guess movies arent fluid in motion?31337r4v3n

Depends. Slower movements look fluid in movies while rapid movements look choppy.

you can lock in cs:s for example at 30 fps and go back to 70 fps and will there be any difference of me getting headshot after headshot? no...will the game run any different...NO31337r4v3n

Yes. The higher the framerate, the more fluid movement will become. Up past around 60 fps you start to get hugely diminishing returns in fluidity though, which is why many games set the limiter there. Also, most screens utilize refresh rates around 60-85Hz, so beyond 85 fps is a waste on most displays. You won't see the extra frames because they won't be refreshed. Going from something like 30 fps to 70 fps makes a HUGE difference in twitch-based FPS games (Counter-Strike, Unreal Tournament.)

i work at a computer company and son right now my 6 coworkers wouldnt let you work on their toilets let alone let you talk about computers..keep talking tho...myself and my co workers think you are hilarious...........can you make a dvd, well buy it:D31337r4v3n

I'm finding that hard to believe, considering you don't seem to understand even many of the most basic technical terms when it comes to computer graphics rendering.

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#85 TotalX5
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Everyone keeps bringing up World in conflict, it has amazing graphics i can give you that much. But its the worst waste of 50 dollars ive ever spent.... and i've bought some crappy games.
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#86 Velocitas8
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HAHAHAHA totalx5 is da man. thats hilarious!:D31337r4v3n

You do realize all of what he said pertains pretty much excluisively to you?

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#87 Velocitas8
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Everyone keeps bringing up World in conflict, it has amazing graphics i can give you that much. But its the worst waste of 50 dollars ive ever spent.... and i've bought some crappy games.TotalX5

Didn't like the demo so I never picked it up.

BTW, How's Mask of The Betrayer?

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play world in conflict and your 320 meg will be pwnt all the while you will be reading "ran out of v-mem" turning up the game settings makes textures bigger thus taking up more memory than you video card has...DRASTICALLY slowing down game performace..instead of your gpu pulling things from memory it has to clear it then fill it because you ran out of memory....my 640 meg card got slowed down from this in WIC (not even close to the type of games comming out soon) but my 768 meg card does not run out of what is alloted....you are quite amusing...you are one of those people that try to say the earth is really flat because you are dillusional...31337r4v3n

wow wow wow... seriously whats wrong with u? this is what happens when people bellow 10 lvl are allowed to post as much as they want. the 8800gtx is indeed faster than the gts butperormance/price ratio the 8800 gts wins easily... why do u try to justify ur purchase so hard? u filled ripped off maybe? here u are:

Euro per Fps

8800gts (320 mb)0,198

8800gtx (768 mb) 0.244

8800ultra (768 mb) 0.265

i see that u love links:http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/09/directx_10_shootout/page9.html

the difference as u can see is huge, seriously cut it out,, u are behaving like a 10 year old spoiled brat.

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#90 TotalX5
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Meh, its alright, the spirit consuming is pretty lame, but it adds to the story. Kinda pissed me off that when i imported my level 12 fighter/8 weapon masteri lost my 2 crafted enchanted dwarven war axes, and didn't find any for a while. =/
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#91 Velocitas8
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Meh, its alright, the spirit consuming is pretty lame, but it adds to the story. Kinda pissed me off that when i imported my level 12 fighter/8 weapon masteri lost my 2 crafted enchanted dwarven war axes, and didn't find any for a while. =/TotalX5

Thought about picking it up, but I don't really wanna pick up another RPG with The Witcher coming out in a little over a week. I like NWN2's official campaign, but I've heard alot of complaints about the expansion. I'll probably pick it up eventually.

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as for me ,"half-life2 episode two "is the best looking game and it is not slowing down hardware..
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#93 31337r4v3n
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[QUOTE="31337r4v3n"]play world in conflict and your 320 meg will be pwnt all the while you will be reading "ran out of v-mem" turning up the game settings makes textures bigger thus taking up more memory than you video card has...DRASTICALLY slowing down game performace..instead of your gpu pulling things from memory it has to clear it then fill it because you ran out of memory....my 640 meg card got slowed down from this in WIC (not even close to the type of games comming out soon) but my 768 meg card does not run out of what is alloted....you are quite amusing...you are one of those people that try to say the earth is really flat because you are dillusional...SamiRDuran

wow wow wow... seriously whats wrong with u? this is what happens when people bellow 10 lvl are allowed to post as much as they want. the 8800gtx is indeed faster than the gts butperormance/price ratio the 8800 gts wins easily... why do u try to justify ur purchase so hard? u filled ripped off maybe? here u are:

Euro per Fps

8800gts (320 mb)0,198

8800gtx (768 mb) 0.244

8800ultra (768 mb) 0.265

i see that u love links:http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/09/directx_10_shootout/page9.html

the difference as u can see is huge, seriously cut it out,, u are behaving like a 10 year old spoiled brat.

gtx was 70 percent faster

im comparing the dollar...the euro is worth more and you guys unfortuanatly have to pay more for a lot of the same stuff , but less on others, wierd...anyhow the gtx will be more "bulletproof" in the future....what i have been saying the whole time was that games like crysis and ut3 (on ultra settings) will really show off where the extra power is when the gtx is jumping ahead by a BIG margine.

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#94 31337r4v3n
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http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/09/directx_10_shootout/page7.html

wow i may not have many posts but if you actually look at the comparisons the gtx absolutely OWNS the gts...where the high end gtx is STILL PLAYABLE above 30 the gts is around 9??? guess 50 percent was a little under it should have been 66 percent...unbelievable...u send me a link that proves nothing...look at that whole link before you send it...it shows that dx10 is virtually unplayable on a gts...where as gtx runs it just fine with the eye candy turned up? how is the price to performance ration better when you cant even play it?

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#95 edeekeos
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yet that pretty much covers it r4v3n, well over 20% better in ALL benchmarks, almost 50% better in most cases. the performance of a gts does not even compare to that of a GTX.

wow guys, for having TONS of post, you sure had a lot ofbullsh!t to spit out of your mouths

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#96 portujoel5
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[QUOTE="31337r4v3n"]play world in conflict and your 320 meg will be pwnt all the while you will be reading "ran out of v-mem" turning up the game settings makes textures bigger thus taking up more memory than you video card has...DRASTICALLY slowing down game performace..instead of your gpu pulling things from memory it has to clear it then fill it because you ran out of memory....my 640 meg card got slowed down from this in WIC (not even close to the type of games comming out soon) but my 768 meg card does not run out of what is alloted....you are quite amusing...you are one of those people that try to say the earth is really flat because you are dillusional...SamiRDuran

wow wow wow... seriously whats wrong with u? this is what happens when people bellow 10 lvl are allowed to post as much as they want. the 8800gtx is indeed faster than the gts butperormance/price ratio the 8800 gts wins easily... why do u try to justify ur purchase so hard? u filled ripped off maybe? here u are:

Euro per Fps

8800gts (320 mb)0,198

8800gtx (768 mb) 0.244

8800ultra (768 mb) 0.265

i see that u love links:http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/09/directx_10_shootout/page9.html

the difference as u can see is huge, seriously cut it out,, u are behaving like a 10 year old spoiled brat.

*hands down*

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#97 jpph
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to get back to the original topic i think that stranglehold would look excellent. the environment breaks apart beautifully
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#98 Timbury
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This topic has been awesome, and i thought everyone knew the GTX wiped the floor with the GTS! But if you take into account bang for buck you can't dismiss that the GTS is a good buy and later on buy another and SLI them.
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#99 Dinsdale
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For some reason, edeekeos really reminds me of Grover Dill from 1983's "A Christmas Story"......ya know, Scut Farkus' friend.
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#100 Ultra-Fatality
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Bioshock, Rainbow six Vegas or Gears of war (when it comes out)