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#1 stu_godd
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i am geting a new graphics card 4 crysis but i will hav the card b4 crysis is released and i want a game to test it (8800gts)

what is (graphicaly) the best game that is out now. :P

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#2 MatrixSpidey92
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I would either say Farcry, Company of Heroes, Painkiller, Team Fotress 2, but dude get a GTX. GTS is a waste, you will only be able to run Crysis high-medium. What are your other specs? Ram? CPU?
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#3 zoneraider007
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I would suggest Bioshock(FPS) or World in conflict(RTS)

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#4 omerdv
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i am geting a new graphics card 4 crysis but i will hav the card b4 crysis is released and i want a game to test it (8800gts)

what is (graphicaly) the best game that is out now. :P

stu_godd

Try stalker...people say it's good looking game...I don't know what to tell you since there aren't alot of good looking games for PC at the moment(Well I mean graphicaly stunning like Crysis or some other new ones)...in november most of the good looking games start to come out.....

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#5 stu_godd
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2.8 dual core

2gig ram

and i cant aford a gtx as its nearly double the price

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#6 omerdv
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I would either say Farcry, Company of Heroes, Painkiller, Team Fotress 2, but dude get a GTX. GTS is a waste, you will only be able to run Crysis high-medium. What are your other specs? Ram? CPU?MatrixSpidey92

Dude, Far Cry is a 4 year old game...it's outdated now...

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#7 Tehgiggles
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Bioshock.. test drive unlimited.. try the CoD4 demo
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#8 zeus_gb
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[QUOTE="MatrixSpidey92"]I would either say Farcry, Company of Heroes, Painkiller, Team Fotress 2, but dude get a GTX. GTS is a waste, you will only be able to run Crysis high-medium. What are your other specs? Ram? CPU?omerdv

Dude, Far Cry is a 4 year old game...it's outdated now...

Even though it's not the newest game on the block it can still give the card a good workout with all the settings turned up.

I'd tryout Bioshock, FarCry, COD4 demo, FEAR etc etc.

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#9 Velocitas8
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I would either say Farcry, Company of Heroes, Painkiller, Team Fotress 2, but dude get a GTX. GTS is a waste, you will only be able to run Crysis high-medium. What are your other specs? Ram? CPU?MatrixSpidey92

Uh, no. The 8800GTS is by far the best buy out there right now. It currently has the best high-end price:performance ratio.

As for Crysis, I'll be surprised if the 8800GTS can't max it out. And if the 8800GTS isn't able to, I really doubt an 8800GTX would be able to either, since the performance difference between the two isn't exactly huge (10-20%?)

As for games to try: Go with titles like STALKER, Bioshock, and Supreme Commander to test what your rig is capable of.

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#10 KiwiforBrain
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Yeah I would also recommend a GTX. And since you want to play games withhigh agraphical performance I would suggest you buy some more RAM, upgrade to like 4 Gigs or sum. Especially for games like Crysis.

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#11 Jade_Monkey
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Here are the games I would try:

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

COD4 demo

World in Conflict

Bioshock

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

F.E.A.R.

Jericho Demo

Timeshift Demo

Rainbow Six Vegas

I could name more if you would like. I doubt the user who stated there are no good looking games on PC right now doesn't play much PC games or doesn't own a good enough PC to know. I know he added that looked as good as crysis, but come one, nothing looks that good right now, a little unfair.

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#12 KiwiforBrain
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You can also download the UT3 Beta/Demo, it's quite awesome.
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#13 TA127
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UT 3 demo
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#14 Velocitas8
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You can also download the UT3 Beta/Demo, it's quite awesome.KiwiforBrain

Just a little note: The UT3 Beta-demo doesn't include high-quality game resources. So far, it's been confirmed that the top two tier graphical settings for texture detail aren't available in the demo (they were cut out to make the demo smaller.)

Still looks great though.

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#15 31337r4v3n
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Hey velo : Just because a gts cant max it out doesnt mean anything. A gtx has 30 percent more shaders, in some cases over twice the amount of memory and have you looked at the numbers??? Especially in dx10 games the performance difference is staggering. Over 50 percent in most games...do your homework before you try to spout at the mouth.
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#16 artur79
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Yeah I would also recommend a GTX. And since you want to play games withhigh agraphical performance I would suggest you buy some more RAM, upgrade to like 4 Gigs or sum. Especially for games like Crysis.

KiwiforBrain

Just get 64 bit windows first...

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#17 MasterYevon
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I personally thought that MOH: Airborne looked absolutely fantastic, good enough in fact to get myself accidentally killed while staring at some light reflecting off of a pool of blood or what not... Some really gorgeous scenes in that game. It won't take much to max it out either.
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#18 31337r4v3n
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yeah your better off with 3 gigs of ram as 4 does nothing for you in a 32 bit o/s. Also if you do go 64 bit o/s you have to think about drivers as they are far more sparse than 32 bit ones especially for add in cards and such. go with a gtx (because that will mean the difference between a playable framerate or not a year from now.
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#19 Hungryboy80
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the gtx is twice the price so the price to performance ratio is way off. The gts is the most practical high end card right now because it is right in the sweet spot as far as price goes. Unless you have gobs of money to waste a gts should suit you just fine. And beleive me I have done my homework.
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#20 31337r4v3n
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how is the gtx twice the price? my 640 was 345 dollars and my gtx i just bought was 475 dollars and that was an msi oc one...oh yeah and playing with both there isa HUGE difference. especially in what is comming down the pipe like world in conflict. on everything on high with my 640 i was getting around 25 fps but with ever;ything on VERY high on my gtx i get around 35 fps......the difference between playable or not lies in 30 percent more shaders..... so again tell me how a gts cost half as much....
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#21 stu_godd
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the gtx is twice the price so the price to performance ratio is way off. The gts is the most practical high end card right now because it is right in the sweet spot as far as price goes. Unless you have gobs of money to waste a gts should suit you just fine. And beleive me I have done my homework.Hungryboy80

thats prety mutch wot i thought,and as i sed above i cant realy aford a gtx

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#22 Velocitas8
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31137r4v3n: You don't need to justify your purchase to me. But since you made the effort, might I recommend trying to do so without the aid of such uninformed nonsense?

Hey velo : Just because a gts cant max it out doesnt mean anything. A gtx has 30 percent more shaders, in some cases over twice the amount of memory and have you looked at the numbers???31337r4v3n

"30 percent more shaders?" You can't even use technical terms properly..not surprising considering you actually think video memory is a significant advantage of the 8800GTX over the 8800GTS. Games are still FAR from being able to fully utilize 640MB-720MB of video memory..even when using post-processing effects and multisampling which significantly increase framebuffer size. By the time mainstream games utilize such huge amounts of memory, these cards are likely to be very outdated. You also seem to be attempting to compare raw statistics, which is a pointless endeavor. Use real-world benchmarks.

Especially in dx10 games the performance difference is staggering. Over 50 percent in most games...do your homework before you try to spout at the mouth. 31337r4v3n

Yeah right. Get back to me when you've taken a look at some benchmarks.

Yes, the 8800GTX is obviously a better performing card. I simply said the 8800GTS is the better buy. No need to make yourself look like a complete ass.

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#23 31337r4v3n
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the gts will be just fine and the world in confilct demo looks great. im speaking from personal experience. i built a new computer..didnt have the money...went with a gts. its a great card and games run smooth as silk, until you enable dx10. in world in conflict..the game ran great until you enable dx10 and turn up the settings and it goes to the -teens in fps whereas my new gtx that i just bought gets in the 30's. a 640 meg card will set you back around 375. save up for two more weeks and spend the extra 100 dollars and get a gtx if your not going sli anytime soon as the gtx gets ALOT better framerates for the games your truly building for...DX10 games
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#24 31337r4v3n
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128 stream processors compared to 96...hmmm 30 percent more...go back to your ps3 forums. the first really taxing game called world in conflict can fill 768 megs of frame buffer. my 640 RAN OUT OF frame buffer. enuff said.
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#25 Velocitas8
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128 stream processors compared to 96...hmmm 30 percent more...go back to your ps3 forums. the first really taxing game called world in conflict can fill 768 megs of frame buffer. my 640 RAN OUT OF frame buffer. enuff said. 31337r4v3n

I suggest you stop. It's pretty obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

How exactly does one "run out of frame buffer?" ..*sigh* Are you making this stuff up as you go along?

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#26 31337r4v3n
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http://www.gamespot.com/features/6179006/p-6.html

Wonder why they didnt even compare the 640 in the dx10 performace guide??? BECAUSE IT DOESNT PLAY AT PLAYABLE levels. the gtx at 16x12 runs at a playable framerate...the 640 doest not (in dx9). on newegg a gtx is a little over 100 dollars more. is that extra 6 months of gaming at a playable framerate worth 100 bucks??? save for an extra week and get the gtx...the gts will be your bottleneck.

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#27 ZimpanX
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World in Conflict, Bioshock, Oblivion, Company of Heroes and the UT3 demo. Gears of War also comes out in 2 weeks

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#28 31337r4v3n
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DUDE...it says at the top of the screen in red lettering when running the benchmark...."RUNNING OUT OF V-MEMORY" or video memory since its obvious you have no clue...bottom line...play crysis in middle of the road settings or pay an extra 100 bucks and play on high or ultra
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#29 31337r4v3n
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(World in Conflict, Bioshock, Oblivion, Company of Heroes and the UT3 demo. Gears of War also comes out in 2 weeks) agreed, all of these are GREAT games.

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#30 Velocitas8
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http://www.gamespot.com/features/6179006/p-6.html

Wonder why they didnt even compare the 640 in the dx10 performace guide??? BECAUSE IT DOESNT PLAY AT PLAYABLE levels.

31337r4v3n

It wasn't included because they were quite obviously only comparing the two top-tier solutions from ATi/nVidia. Notice how there's no other cards in the DX10 benchmarks from either side?

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#31 31337r4v3n
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there is a reason only top tier solutions were provided in the benchmarks not just from gamespot but from other websites too...theres no point in displaying NON playable framerates. Dude give it up...ive explained myself in full...WIC tells you whenyou run out of framebuffer so play it bfore you try to make stuff up....and no one wants to waste their time telling you a lower end solution gets 10 to 20 fps in a dx10 game.....sheesh give it up or you will be PWNT!
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#32 Velocitas8
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DUDE...it says at the top of the screen in red lettering when running the benchmark...."RUNNING OUT OF V-MEMORY" or video memory since its obvious you have no clue...bottom line...play crysis in middle of the road settings or pay an extra 100 bucks and play on high or ultra31337r4v3n

Which is why the Gamespot DX10 benchmarks were done with a 512MB Radeon 2900XT?

As for Crysis: if you aren't gonna max it out on a 8800GTS, you probably won't max it out on a 8800GTX either.

Just be quiet already.

there is a reason only top tier solutions were provided in the benchmarks not just from gamespot but from other websites too...theres no point in displaying NON playable framerates31337r4v3n

Fail, the Gamespot benchmarks VERY clearly compare low-end cards, some even pulling off a mere 16 frames/sec. Even if unplayable, results ARE STILL displayed.

Edit: Merged two posts..

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#36 Velocitas8
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im going against gs rules to say your a tool...only an IDIOT would argue that a gts is as fast as a gtx...you truly are a work of art...you need to stop playing computer games and only own consoles. 100 dollars gets you and i will quote this "OVER 50 percent performace increase ESPECIALLY at higher resolutions very much so on newer games" there truly are idiots in this world....oh yeah and about that 30 percent thing..sorry my bad its 33.3 percent...get a life scum31337r4v3n

:lol: I NEVER said the GTS was as fast as the GTX. I just said the GTS is the better buy in my view.

You WILL NOT see a 50% performance increase in ANY application with the 8800GTX. The most any benchmark has conveyed so far is a 20% performance difference, and it's more often than not even less of a performance gap.

Try working on your reading comprehension before posting any further.
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#37 edeekeos
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I completely agree with eliteraven on this one, it takes (2) gts's to match the performance of a SINGLE GTX, now im not dogging on the gts's by any means, as a matter of fact, i got two in SLi, i just think velocitas is completely out of line on this one, and is just mad because he cant play WiC on his Wal-Mart e-Machine. grow up buddy, get a real computer, take the plunge, get vista and dx10, and see what games are supposed to look like.

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#38 31337r4v3n
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they havent moderated me yet...yes you already see 50 percent performace increases in dx10 apps...but there is no sense talking to a 12 year old...go ahead and play everything on medium...ill be gaming on high
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#39 Velocitas8
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I completely agree with eliteraven on this one, it takes (2) gts's to match the performance of a SINGLE GTX, now im not dogging on the gts's by any means, as a matter of fact, i got two in SLiedeekeos

LOL..anyone else see the absurd contradiction there? If you think a single GTX outperforms 2 GTSs, WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU PAY MORE FOR THE SLI SOLUTION?

Sounds like you're lying, little boy. Run along now.

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#40 31337r4v3n
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http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2110

another article where even in dx9 settings you get 50 percent performance increases in higher resolutions...i guess its you who should learn how to read.

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#41 edeekeos
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Velocitas8, you need to do some extensive research before you start popping off at the mouth again.:roll:

not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you pal.:cry:

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#42 Velocitas8
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they havent moderated me yet...yes you already see 50 percent performace increases in dx10 apps...but there is no sense talking to a 12 year old...go ahead and play everything on medium...ill be gaming on high 31337r4v3n

More nonsense claims with nothing to back them up. I also find your assumptions amusing.

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#43 portujoel5
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[QUOTE="MatrixSpidey92"]I would either say Farcry, Company of Heroes, Painkiller, Team Fotress 2, but dude get a GTX. GTS is a waste, you will only be able to run Crysis high-medium. What are your other specs? Ram? CPU?Velocitas8

Uh, no. The 8800GTS is by far the best buy out there right now. It currently has the best high-end price:performance ratio.

As for Crysis, I'll be surprised if the 8800GTS can't max it out. And if the 8800GTS isn't able to, I really doubt an 8800GTX would be able to either, since the performance difference between the two isn't exactly huge (10-20%?)

As for games to try: Go with titles like STALKER, Bioshock, and Supreme Commander to test what your rig is capable of.

If the 8800gts can't max it, Crysis won't get far until next year or so, when all prices drop.

I have 8800gts, 2.6 x2 5200+ amd, 4gb of ram.

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#44 31337r4v3n
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http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2108

here is your sli comparison...PWNT....stop now before i really make you look bad go play your ps3 now

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#45 Velocitas8
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Velocitas8, you need to do some extensive research before you start popping off at the mouth again.:roll:

not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you pal.:cry:

edeekeos

You're still here?

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#46 31337r4v3n
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im giving you all the proof you need...the answers are in front of your face in graph format, i guess if you cant read that i can find more proof in other formats, believe me these numbers backing me up can go on all day:twisted:
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#47 Velocitas8
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What's funny is you still think I'm trying to say the 8800GTS is as powerful as the 8800GTX.

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#48 edeekeos
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I got a great deal on my two GTS's, got both for under $300

sorry your luck is not as good as mine, only contradiction here is you saying you are asstraight as an arrow, when in all reality you go home and dress up as David Hyde Pierce at night. YOU lose man.

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#49 31337r4v3n
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the whole point of the gts scheme is for people on a budget..."i cant afford a gtx right now..." so you buy a gts...later on you buy another one...yes you pay more but you then get to run with the p[eo[le who have a gtx...i can produce gaming benchmarks all day ....wnt more?
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#50 31337r4v3n
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BUT YOU DID SAY THAT A GTS WAS JUST AS FAST AS A GTX BY SAYING..AND I QUOTE YOU..." IF YOU CANT MAX IT OUT ON A GTS YOU CANT MAX IT OUT ON A GTX..." did you not say that? by saying that you said there was no performace gain from either and in fact they are the same card hence making yourself look bad because anyone knows you get what you pay for.....WOW you are one of a kind.....that was also pretty funny edeekeos:P