Would you vote for an atheist? (Now with POLL)

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]migkiller, not everything in the Bible can be proven scientifically i.e. The Flood, Jesus' birth, God himself, Jesus' mircales, etc. Can EVERYTHING that evolution says be proven scientifically?mig_killer2

I did... but i didn't understand he was talking about the Flood not how old the earth was.

i would never vote for an athiest. athiests don't believe in goD!!Wolfmiser

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]migkiller, not everything in the Bible can be proven scientifically i.e. The Flood, Jesus' birth, God himself, Jesus' mircales, etc. Can EVERYTHING that evolution says be proven scientifically?battlefront23

I did... but i didn't understand he was talking about the Flood not how old the earth was.

then why do you call yourself an atheist?

battlefront23

1) I never called myself an atheist... I'm an agnostic.

2) Buddhism doesn't have a 'deity' per say, it can be religious, or it can be a guide to life.

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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]migkiller, not everything in the Bible can be proven scientifically i.e. The Flood, Jesus' birth, God himself, Jesus' mircales, etc. Can EVERYTHING that evolution says be proven scientifically?mig_killer2

I did... but i didn't understand he was talking about the Flood not how old the earth was.

Yes because God has divine power over everything...

Why are so many of you guys atheists, trying to defend a just cause that basically means that you believe in nothing? We need more Christians on this board....Solid_Snake325

AMEN

migkiller, not everything in the Bible can be proven scientifically i.e. The Flood, Jesus' birth, God himself, Jesus' mircales, etc. Can EVERYTHING that evolution says be proven scientifically?battlefront23

Many of the events in the bible can be DISproven scientifically.

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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]migkiller, not everything in the Bible can be proven scientifically i.e. The Flood, Jesus' birth, God himself, Jesus' mircales, etc. Can EVERYTHING that evolution says be proven scientifically?battlefront23

I did... but i didn't understand he was talking about the Flood not how old the earth was.

Yes because god has divine power over everything...

[QUOTE="mimic-Denmark"]Fantasy aka religion needs to stay out of politics.kalloo

I have nothing against religious people, it just doesn't belong in politics.

Why are so many of you guys atheists, trying to defend a just cause that basically means that you believe in nothing? We need more Christians on this board....Solid_Snake325

Because it's ridiculous to label a candidate for any sort of office as unqualified because of their personal beliefs, which are not meant to coincide with their powers of office. It's amazing how 52% of people in America are willing to throw away a reasonable candidate just because they belive in something different, or nothing at all.

This isn't a matter of defending atheism, it's a matter of defending qualified candidates that are discarded of their chances at getting into office simply because of a lack of faith.

[QUOTE="kalloo"][QUOTE="mimic-Denmark"]Fantasy aka religion needs to stay out of politics.mimic-Denmark

I have nothing against religious people, it just doesn't belong in politics.

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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]migkiller, not everything in the Bible can be proven scientifically i.e. The Flood, Jesus' birth, God himself, Jesus' mircales, etc. Can EVERYTHING that evolution says be proven scientifically?mig_killer2

I did... but i didn't understand he was talking about the Flood not how old the earth was.

Yes because god has divine power over everything...

Since God created these rules, He can bend them to his will. Can I ask you something: do you think Jesus was born of a virgin?

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[QUOTE="kalloo"][QUOTE="mimic-Denmark"]Fantasy aka religion needs to stay out of politics.mig_killer2

I have nothing against religious people, it just doesn't belong in politics.

Well, you are entitled to your belief of course, and im entitled to mine, and mine is religion is a good bed time story but nothing more.

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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]migkiller, not everything in the Bible can be proven scientifically i.e. The Flood, Jesus' birth, God himself, Jesus' mircales, etc. Can EVERYTHING that evolution says be proven scientifically?battlefront23

I did... but i didn't understand he was talking about the Flood not how old the earth was.

Yes because god has divine power over everything...

Since God created these rules, He can bend them to his will. Can I ask you something: do you think Jesus was born of a virgin?

anyway, you're assuming that God created a flood, and then destroyed all evidence of the flood to fool us?

worshipping a great deciever for the lose!

in a heartbeat, religion has no place in politicsmlbslugger86

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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]migkiller, not everything in the Bible can be proven scientifically i.e. The Flood, Jesus' birth, God himself, Jesus' mircales, etc. Can EVERYTHING that evolution says be proven scientifically?mig_killer2

I did... but i didn't understand he was talking about the Flood not how old the earth was.

Yes because god has divine power over everything...

Since God created these rules, He can bend them to his will. Can I ask you something: do you think Jesus was born of a virgin?

anyway, you're assuming that God created a flood, and then destroyed all evidence of the flood to fool us?

worshipping a great deciever for the lose!

Well in MY opinion, Christianity makes the most sense.

edit: sorry for the horrible grammar!

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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]migkiller, not everything in the Bible can be proven scientifically i.e. The Flood, Jesus' birth, God himself, Jesus' mircales, etc. Can EVERYTHING that evolution says be proven scientifically?mig_killer2

I did... but i didn't understand he was talking about the Flood not how old the earth was.

Yes because god has divine power over everything...

Since God created these rules, He can bend them to his will. Can I ask you something: do you think Jesus was born of a virgin?

anyway, you're assuming that God created a flood, and then destroyed all evidence of the flood to fool us?

worshipping a great deciever for the lose!

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]migkiller, not everything in the Bible can be proven scientifically i.e. The Flood, Jesus' birth, God himself, Jesus' mircales, etc. Can EVERYTHING that evolution says be proven scientifically?battlefront23

I did... but i didn't understand he was talking about the Flood not how old the earth was.

Yes because god has divine power over everything...

Since God created these rules, He can bend them to his will. Can I ask you something: do you think Jesus was born of a virgin?

anyway, you're assuming that God created a flood, and then destroyed all evidence of the flood to fool us?

worshipping a great deciever for the lose!

Well if all belie systems, un MY opinion, Christianity makes the most sense.

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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]migkiller, not everything in the Bible can be proven scientifically i.e. The Flood, Jesus' birth, God himself, Jesus' mircales, etc. Can EVERYTHING that evolution says be proven scientifically?mig_killer2

I did... but i didn't understand he was talking about the Flood not how old the earth was.

Yes because god has divine power over everything...

Since God created these rules, He can bend them to his will. Can I ask you something: do you think Jesus was born of a virgin?

anyway, you're assuming that God created a flood, and then destroyed all evidence of the flood to fool us?

worshipping a great deciever for the lose!

Well if all belie systems, un MY opinion, Christianity makes the most sense.

Dude then why are you fighting me? We're brothers in Christ! :) And also its one or the other, not both.

then why do you call yourself an atheist?

battlefront23

Atheism is just lack of belief in a deity. Buddhism technically fulfills those requirements.

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[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]migkiller, not everything in the Bible can be proven scientifically i.e. The Flood, Jesus' birth, God himself, Jesus' mircales, etc. Can EVERYTHING that evolution says be proven scientifically?battlefront23

I did... but i didn't understand he was talking about the Flood not how old the earth was.

Yes because god has divine power over everything...

Since God created these rules, He can bend them to his will. Can I ask you something: do you think Jesus was born of a virgin?

anyway, you're assuming that God created a flood, and then destroyed all evidence of the flood to fool us?

worshipping a great deciever for the lose!

Well if all belie systems, un MY opinion, Christianity makes the most sense.

Dude then why are you fighting me? We're brothers in Christ! :) And also its one or the other, not both.

Dude then why are you fighting me? We're brothers in Christ! :)

battlefront23

Catholics and Protestants fight each other daily...

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Dude then why are you fighting me? We're brothers in Christ! :)

Hewkii

Catholics and Protestants fight each other daily...

You're a Christian OR you're an atheist.battlefront23

people who harm others in the name of God are NOT christians. mig_killer2

I'm not necessarily talking physically. take this, for example.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]You're a Christian OR you're an atheist.mig_killer2

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]You're a Christian OR you're an atheist.mig_killer2

NO

[QUOTE="muff07"]in the UK any priminister must not let god etc get involved in political polocies and he isnt aloud to actually be part of a church or be a registered member of any religion. its a system that works i personally would not vote for a dumba**(bush) or a christian because there believe have effect on there polocies.Bourbons3

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]You're a Christian OR you're an atheist.Solid_Snake325

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake325"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]You're a Christian OR you're an atheist.helium_flash

All I know is I'm pretty sure they're going to hell *flame shield up*

You're a Christian OR you're an atheist.battlefront23

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake325"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]You're a Christian OR you're an atheist.helium_flash

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]You're a Christian OR you're an atheist.EboyLOL

Look at the post in context... I was referring to the comparison between Atheists and Christianity...

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]You're a Christian OR you're an atheist.battlefront23

Look at the post in context... I was referring to the comparison between Atheists and Christianity...

[QUOTE="greenprince"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="helium_flash"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I can't answer that.....since coming to OT I've gotten an unfavorable opinion of atheists. While I know not all individuals in a group are similiar...it gives me pause now.Bourbons3

Why would I want someone who doesn't believe in God leading this country? Someone that is letting God lead his or her life is going to make better decisions than someone that isn't letting God guide his or her life. All we need is a president that will take away religious freedoms and persecute those that believe in God. Is that what you all want? If you don't believe in God then that's your choice, but an athiest will certainly not make a good president due to the fact that this person will make decisions based on public pressures and feelings. They won't know how to discern a situation and ask God to help them make the best decision. That's the difference between an athiest and someone who believes and follows God.cukoo

Why would I want someone who doesn't believe in God leading this country? Someone that is letting God lead his or her life is going to make better decisions than someone that isn't letting God guide his or her life. All we need is a president that will take away religious freedoms and persecute those that believe in God. Is that what you all want? If you don't believe in God then that's your choice, but an athiest will certainly not make a good president due to the fact that this person will make decisions based on public pressures and feelings. They won't know how to discern a situation and ask God to help them make the best decision. That's the difference between an athiest and someone who believes and follows God.cukoo

Well the problem is, god dosnt answer back.

All we need is a president that will take away religious freedoms and persecute those that believe in God. Is that what you all want? cukoo

Hitler claimed he was Catholic and did just that...

[QUOTE="cukoo"]Why would I want someone who doesn't believe in God leading this country? Someone that is letting God lead his or her life is going to make better decisions than someone that isn't letting God guide his or her life. All we need is a president that will take away religious freedoms and persecute those that believe in God. Is that what you all want? If you don't believe in God then that's your choice, but an athiest will certainly not make a good president due to the fact that this person will make decisions based on public pressures and feelings. They won't know how to discern a situation and ask God to help them make the best decision. That's the difference between an athiest and someone who believes and follows God.mimic-Denmark

Well the problem is, god dosnt answer back.

Yeah, he left that part out.

[QUOTE="helium_flash"][QUOTE="Solid_Snake325"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]You're a Christian OR you're an atheist.Solid_Snake325

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[QUOTE="cukoo"]Why would I want someone who doesn't believe in God leading this country? Someone that is letting God lead his or her life is going to make better decisions than someone that isn't letting God guide his or her life. All we need is a president that will take away religious freedoms and persecute those that believe in God. Is that what you all want? If you don't believe in God then that's your choice, but an athiest will certainly not make a good president due to the fact that this person will make decisions based on public pressures and feelings. They won't know how to discern a situation and ask God to help them make the best decision. That's the difference between an athiest and someone who believes and follows God.JML897

Well the problem is, god dosnt answer back.

Yeah, he left that part out.

Why would I want someone who doesn't believe in God leading this country? Someone that is letting God lead his or her life is going to make better decisions than someone that isn't letting God guide his or her life. All we need is a president that will take away religious freedoms and persecute those that believe in God. Is that what you all want? If you don't believe in God then that's your choice, but an athiest will certainly not make a good president due to the fact that this person will make decisions based on public pressures and feelings. They won't know how to discern a situation and ask God to help them make the best decision. That's the difference between an athiest and someone who believes and follows God.cukoo

I don't think an atheist president would go as far as to hinder the rights of someone who is religious. If anything, they would seek to bring balance to the political board by not being biased in favor of Christiantiy, which has been prevalent for too long. I'm not saying being Christian and in a position of power is bad, I'm just saying that it's borderline unconstitutional to bring it into politics, as separation of Church and State is meant to apply to everyone. However, lately I'm starting to question if we even look at the constitution as much as we should.

You guys don't know what you're talking about, God does answer back, just not in a manly voice spoken out loud. Solid_Snake325

and we all know he isn't just that...