Would you date a girl who previously rejected you due to a lack of ambition?

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#1 entropyecho
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Would it depend on the circumstances?

For example, let's say you experienced hard times in the past (i.e. bad job, in school, no money, bottom of the economic/social totem pole, chemical dependency problem, etc.). You meet a seemingly nice girl who is sweet enough. She accepts your lunch invites and you enjoy each other's company. You ask her out on a date and she says she's not really looking for a relationship right now - she just wants a friendship. A couple weeks later you find out she's dating Mr. Successful Businessman.

Later on, you become more successful yourself and it shows. You obtain status symbols. You now have disposable income and as a result become well-groomed. In comes the lady again, she is single and wants to get to know you better. She asks YOU out this time.

What are you thinking at this point?

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#2 deactivated-59d151f079814
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No, to me that basically says she is a materialistic gold digger.. Of course your basically using two extremes.. Your bottom and than your all of a sudden top.. the point of the matter is your scenerio suggests if she will react if you havea average life.. To me I want a woman who loves me for who I am and not how big my bank account is.

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#3 indzman
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Would it depend on the circumstances?

For example, let's say you experienced hard times in the past (i.e. bad job, in school, no money, bottom of the economic/social totem pole, chemical dependency problem, etc.). You meet a seemingly nice girl who is sweet enough. She accepts your lunch invites and you enjoy each other's company. You ask her out on a date and she says she's not really looking for a relationship right now - she just wants a friendship. A couple weeks later you find out she's dating Mr. Successful Businessman.

Later on, you become more successful yourself and it shows. You obtain status symbols. You now have disposable income and as a result become well-groomed. In comes the lady again, she is single and wants to get to know you better. She asks YOU out this time.

What are you thinking at this point?

entropyecho

No . Shes a oppurtunist .

She'll again leave you when you go through bad phase .Go for the girl who liked you when you were a nobody or a new girl .

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#4 entropyecho
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No, to me that basically says she is a materialistic gold digger..sSubZerOo

But what if you don't have any "gold" per se. Is there such a thing as a bronze digger?

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#5 frostybanana
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Nope. You have a pretty good picture of that person's character from that alone.
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#6 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]No, to me that basically says she is a materialistic gold digger..entropyecho

But what if you don't have any "gold" per se. Is there such a thing as a bronze digger?

Its a figure of speech.. Inless your life was terribly out of wack I can see why she may not think it best right now.. But you basically made the polar opposites.. Question how would she react if you had a ok career going on and can not be considered super successful nor bad, just average.. The fact that you say she specifically goes after the super successful guy to me screams trophy wife.. And it has turned into a cliche for reality shows and pornos alike.

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#7 tenaka2
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You can't be certain why she didn't take it further the first time.

When you say well groomed, do you mean going from being a hobo to being dressed in a suit?

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#8 Dark__Link
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I'd give her a chance. Maybe you seem happier now that you're better off, and she's responding to that. Or maybe she just didn't want to be with someone who couldn't help themselves first. Whatever it is, it's not necessarily that she's a shallow b****, so yeah, I'd give her a chance.
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My pride says "no", my brain says "depends" and my **** says "hell yes".
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oh' ceelo green where art thou?
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#11 Omni-Slash
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Omni's Rule number 62 of Dating: When a girl talks about your "ambiton"....it's code word for...."sorry but like you totally don't make enough money for me to sit on my ass all day and eat chocolate while watching soap opera's so I'm gonna go find a sugar daddy that will let me do that....totally".....
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#12 foxhound_fox
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What are you thinking at this point?entropyecho
"Gold digger."
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#13 entropyecho
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I guess a normal woman wants a man, not a project.

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#14 mtrack87
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If she wasn't mean about rejecting me the first time around - why not? Maybe she didn't wan't to date anyone because she really did think she found "Mr. Perfect" and wanted to concentrate on him - maybe it had nothing to do with my lack of status or money or whatever - who knows... Anyway, why fault a girl who is just trying to get the best possible boyfriend/future husband she can. Guys are always looking for the absolute best they can get so why not girls? I've never met a guy yet who was dating a "nice" girl and didn't take a shot and go out with someone else he thought was hotter, more successful, smarter, had bigger boobs - whatever - that's the law of nature - people are programmed to choose mates based on natural and social traits like attractiveness, success, status/power, intelligence...can't blame them - just be happy you were born with or have earned those traits that attract the opposite sex.
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#15 entropyecho
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My pride says "no", my brain says "depends" and my **** says "hell yes".Harkat95

Pump and dump?

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#16 surrealnumber5
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Omni's Rule number 62 of Dating: When a girl talksabout your "ambiton"....it's code word for...."sorry but like you totally don't make enough money for me to sit on my ass all day and eat chocolate while watching soap opera's so I'm gonna go find a sugar daddy that will let me do that....totally".....Omni-Slash
girl talks about my ambition i have some sort of automatic response of "***** you" but that goes for friends and family too.

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#17 Secret-Face
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She fits the bill of a gold digger, so hell no.
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#18 Lonelynight
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Sure, she might have changed, but I would take things slowly to see if the only reason she is dating me is because of my money.
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#19 jeremiah06
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Have your way with her and then dump her... Oh and be sure to rub it in her face...
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#20 surrealnumber5
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Have your way with her and then dump her... Oh and be sure to rub it in her face...jeremiah06
somewhere eles first?
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#21 LieutenantFeist
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No, **** her, I can find better girls than that!

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#22 weezyfb
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tell her you would love to but she doesn't have enough ambition
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#24 jeremiah06
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[QUOTE="mtrack87"]If she wasn't mean about rejecting me the first time around - why not? Maybe she didn't wan't to date anyone because she really did think she found "Mr. Perfect" and wanted to concentrate on him - maybe it had nothing to do with my lack of status or money or whatever - who knows... Anyway, why fault a girl who is just trying to get the best possible boyfriend/future husband she can. Guys are always looking for the absolute best they can get so why not girls? I've never met a guy yet who was dating a "nice" girl and didn't take a shot and go out with someone else he thought was hotter, more successful, smarter, had bigger boobs - whatever - that's the law of nature - people are programmed to choose mates based on natural and social traits like attractiveness, success, status/power, intelligence...can't blame them - just be happy you were born with or have earned those traits that attract the opposite sex.

Dude whenever a girl says she's not really looking for a relationship right now she's just politely telling you you're not good enough for her... I get finding someone you're attracted to but this wasn't about that... Seems like she's looking for a free ride... Also I've never dumped a girl to upgrade...
[QUOTE="jeremiah06"]Have your way with her and then dump her... Oh and be sure to rub it in her face...surrealnumber5
somewhere eles first?

What?
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#25 entropyecho
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Also I've never dumped a girl to upgrade...jeremiah06

Now that's just a flat out lie.

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#26 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="jeremiah06"]Have your way with her and then dump her... Oh and be sure to rub it in her face...[/QUOTE] somewhere eles first?jeremiah06
What?

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#27 certifieddata
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In that situation it quite bluntly seems like she's just after the money, so no I wouldn't.

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#28 spazzx625
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I would use my newly acquired wealth to destroy her.
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#29 indzman
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I would use my newly acquired wealth to destroy her.spazzx625

Or you can aquire a new and hot girlfreind to make her more jealous :P

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#30 entropyecho
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I would use my newly acquired wealth to destroy her.spazzx625

Sounds vindictive.

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#31 spazzx625
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Or you can aquire a new and hot girlfreind to make her more jealous :P

indzman
Too much work.

Sounds vindictive.

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It's on my bucket list.
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#32 certifieddata
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I would use my newly acquired wealth to destroy her.spazzx625

"Accidental" money avalanchewhile on a backyard ski trip?

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#33 windswepthair
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Oh boy! If she's alluring enough any man would date her.
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#34 entropyecho
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"]I would use my newly acquired wealth to destroy her.certifieddata

"Accidental" money avalanchewhile on a backyard ski trip?

D-D-D-Danger lurks behind you!

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#35 mtrack87
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Wow..some misinformation about women floating around here...- besides having dated a bunch and being over the age of 28 myself plus having two sisters I can tell you a couple of things:

Dude whenever a girl says she's not really looking for a relationship right now she's just politely telling you you're not good enough for her... I get finding someone you're attracted to but this wasn't about that... Seems like she's looking for a free ride... Also I've never dumped a girl to upgrade

Absolutely false. When they say they're not looking for a relationship, it COULD be that they think you're not good enough for them OR it could mean that something else is going on.... my sisters and some friends who are women have talked about this in front of me... many times - they really have too much crap going on in their lives with work, family problems or a recent bad breakup...and they have taken "breaks" from dating - they have turned down guys they would have normally gone out on a date with, simply because the timing was bad in their personal lives - it had nothing to do with the guy not being "good enough". Many other times, girls will say that because they are already dating someone they think could be "Mr. Right" and they don't want to waste time with anyone new until they see where the other relationship is going. IF they weren't dating someone they really thought they could get serious with or they weren't dating anyone - there are many guys who were turned down - who would have gotten a "yes" if they asked the same girl out 3 months earlier. So don't assume a girl thinks badly of you when they turn you down - if you automatically jump to that conclusion, then you have self-esteem issues...the world doesn't revolve around you and sometimes there really are other reasons for rejection - she just may be using a convenient excuse because she doesn't want to tell you her life story. ...and about a "free ride" - just because a girl wants to be with someone who is successful and has a liitle bit of cash stowed under the mattress, doesn't mean she wants a free ride, it only means that she doesn't want to work double-shifts at Burger King, two months after she has a couple of your kids because you're too broke to support the family and allow her the freedom to spend time at home with her family...most girls think WAY AHEAD when going out with a new guy - they will start adding up the pluses & minuses relating to you as a potential husband & father, after the first 10 minutes...funny but true! ...you "never dumped a girl to "upgrade" - that could be true if you were with someone for awhile and you really loved her but you're telling me you never stopped dating a girl who you were seeing on a regualr basis for a few months - because you met someone else who just blew you away? Good for you.. I think 95% of guys who date women and are over the age of 25 (many under 25), could never make that claim....
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#36 Gamingclone
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I would wave my money and her face and say I already have a gf 8) and her name is Money:twisted:

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#37 UltimoIce
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God forbid being financially unstable as a deal breaker. I won't date a girl with no career/ambition, because I have both of those things and I realize what it represents about a girl's character. I would assume a woman to think the same thing.

Now, if she has nothing, and wants to date a guy with wealth, THAT would be a bad sign. But nothing wrong with expecting some sort of success out of your significant other. That's part of our evolutionary weeding process.

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#39 mtrack87
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[QUOTE="UltimoIce"]

God forbid being financially unstable as a deal breaker. I won't date a girl with no career/ambition, because I have both of those things and I realize what it represents about a girl's character. I would assume a woman to think the same thing.

Now, if she has nothing, and wants to date a guy with wealth, THAT would be a bad sign. But nothing wrong with expecting some sort of success out of your significant other. That's part of our evolutionary weeding process.

THANK YOU!!! - Someone who actually gets it. Why would any girl who likes herself date someone who has no ambition, money, success or apparent future? Just because you're a "nice guy"? Don't think so - welcome to the real world.
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#40 lloveLamp
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Would it depend on the circumstances?

For example, let's say you experienced hard times in the past (i.e. bad job, in school, no money, bottom of the economic/social totem pole, chemical dependency problem, etc.). You meet a seemingly nice girl who is sweet enough. She accepts your lunch invites and you enjoy each other's company. You ask her out on a date and she says she's not really looking for a relationship right now - she just wants a friendship. A couple weeks later you find out she's dating Mr. Successful Businessman.

Later on, you become more successful yourself and it shows. You obtain status symbols. You now have disposable income and as a result become well-groomed. In comes the lady again, she is single and wants to get to know you better. She asks YOU out this time.

What are you thinking at this point?

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wow. that kinda sucks. but its kinda cool at the same time. if i didn't have any feelings for her then i would definately blow my nose in her face. but im not sure how you feel about her

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#41 Nifty_Shark
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Um well. I can totally understand if a girl does not want a bum. She may be attracted to him but if the guy has nothing going for him I would understand why she wouldn't start anything with him. If he does get his stuff together than sure she might try him out. There is a difference between a gold digger and a girl who wants to be with a man who has ambition.

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#42 CoolSkAGuy
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I'd go in for the kill. And bail if it doesn't suit us. I guess like a normal relationship.
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#43 ariz3260
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I wouldn't mind dating her, but I would be lying if I said her prior rejection didn't do anything to my psyche. I don't blame her for wanting someone who has "already made it", but at the same time what she did also communicate to me that my other traits weren't attractive enough and her affection towards me now is entirely base on my status and success. The relationship will probably end in failure

Yes I am cynical like that

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#44 deactivated-590595a6292ce
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No, she only wants in for the money.

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#45 Suzy_Q_Kazoo
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Nope. You have a pretty good picture of that person's character from that alone.frostybanana
I agree with this.
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#46 UltimoIce
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I think the people that are saying no here, and this is just a guess, are those that don't have stable careers right now. Because once you do, you don't want to settle for someone that doesn't. It is just as bad as settling for someone less attractive than you, or a worse person.

Again, it all depends on the female in question. Does she have a good career? If so, I don't blame her for sticking it to you when you appeared to have no life direction. Why date someone that doesn't have the same motivation/values? It won't work out in the long run anyways.

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#47 XileLord
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Nope

if love is based on wealth or what you have then it's not worth having.

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#48 needled24-7
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i don't know, man. i'd like to say that i would tell her to get lost, because i don't like when people give me BS excuses, which is what she did the first time. if she had told me the real reason for not wanting to keep going out, then it would be different. if she had said "i'm sorry, but i want a man with more ambition," i would probably be mad or confused about the comment, but i would be even more mad if she had given me a BS excuse then i found out later that she was going out with another man.

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#49 Omni-Slash
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[QUOTE="UltimoIce"]

I think the people that are saying no here, and this is just a guess, are those that don't have stable careers right now. Because once you do, you don't want to settle for someone that doesn't. It is just as bad as settling for someone less attractive than you, or a worse person.

Again, it all depends on the female in question. Does she have a good career? If so, I don't blame her for sticking it to you when you appeared to have no life direction. Why date someone that doesn't have the same motivation/values? It won't work out in the long run anyways.

not true at all....monetary worth does not determine the woman I'd want to spend the rest of my life with....my wife is a career oriented woman....loves her job..makes a great income....that being said...a woman whom would also rather just stay home and take care of the children has her value as well....there's more to life than dollar bills...
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#50 LustForSoul
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She goes for the money. I'd reject her....