Would you circumsize your son ?

They seem like younger kids, many of them probably in high school still, and they pretend to know about science and are atheists because they think it makes them feel "superior" to their common man. It makes them feel unique, it's an identity thing.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

While catholic priests sometimes have contact with boys penises its for different reasons.

airshocker

:roll:

ShadowMoses900

Yeah, community college comment was a bit far out. I know there's many good students that go to community colleges for financial reasons. I also know there's many iditos that go to community colleges. I think a better, more accurate term would be liars.

toast_burner

Does the tattoo have any health benefits?

Teenaged

Catholic priest jokes are so overused, they're not even funny. Hell, they shouldn't even funny in the first place. How is a little boy getting molested funny?

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Parents are in charge of their children. Like it or not. Circumcision has health benefits, as ShadowMoses stated. Like it or not. If parents want to make their children more healthy, let them...

ShadowMoses900

There is far more to it than just HIV......

Read my links again. It shows the numerous other areas it helps with. HIV is only ONE of the many diseases that being circumcised helps to prevent.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

kingkong0124

Catholic priest jokes are so overused, they're not even funny. Hell, they're not even funny in the first place. How is a little boy getting molested funny?

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

It's done in prep. for adulthood. How many sexually active adults do you know?

kingkong0124

If you want to let adults decide, you can. If you want your child to have health benefits you can. The fact is, children are the responsiblity of their parents. If a parent wants to circumcise their son for health benefits, they can. If they don't want to, they can. It's their choice, not the child's.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

toast_burner

They do, and you know it. Don't f*cking deny it dude. Most of these militant atheists are against circumcision as it goes against many religious beliefs...they couldn't care less about the health benefits. Read ShadowMoses's posts..

So in Christian countries such as England, how come circumcision isn't common? Even back when people would be killed for being atheists circucision was still not done.

Yes, and it will lead to consequences in the future: Declining rates of circumcision could lead to $4.4 billion health costs ...

I could not find any circumcision rates done in the UK, but it still seems to be a popular trend. It is certainly the highest for circumcisions among the other European countries, this is probably due to the UK having a larger Jewish population than the other European countries.

Which is because most Jews tend to dislike Europe, even though the Nazis are gone there still is much resentment towards Jews in many European countries. The UK is the only one Jews really feel safe in and the one they respect. Many of the other European countries have an anti Israel bias.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] So why not then let these adults decide if they want to be circumcised on their own? How is it ethical for parents to make this decision for their adult children?

-Sun_Tzu-

If you want to let adults decide, you can. If you want your child to have health benefits you can. The fact is, children are the responsiblity of their parents. If a parent wants to circumcise their son for health benefits, they can. If they don't want to, they can. It's their choice, not the child's.

Once again, you need to learn the facts.

Circumcision

Male circumcision for HIV prevention - World Health Organization

CDC - Male Circumcision

Also this is proof that circumcision is a more healthy choice: Circumcision in Africa reduces HIV transmission - Los Angeles Times

These are all the facts. You cannot argue against them. Not choosing to cirumcise your baby boys is your choice, however it would be in their best interest for them to be circumcised. The benefits are great.

They seem like younger kids, many of them probably in high school still, and they pretend to know about science and are atheists because they think it makes them feel "superior" to their common man. It makes them feel unique, it's an identity thing.ShadowMoses900

@Shadowmoses, is it true that rabbies suck the blood from circumsized babies? Also, you do know the foreskin can be pulled back to expose the shaft and head, making it look just like any other circumsized penis The foreskin is design for protection, if you don't pull back the skin and clean it properly you deserve to catch an STD. Just think of it like a hoody, hoodies are cool and protect you from the outside elements. How can something that is obvious designed for protection be seen as the cause for desease? Hygene is the real issue here and since we are much more informed and cleaner these days the snip and clip of the tip is not really required, and a doctor was the first person to tell me this. bnarmz

Lol what? Rabbies do not do that, where are you getting this from? You can't be serious.....that is disgusting, and it is forbidden to eat human flesh in Judaism. To do so would make one a barbarian pagan and worthy of death or exile (today we would just lock them up in prison or a nut house).

It is debatable as to what the purpose of a forskin is, many state that it serves no purpose whatsoever and is just left over "junk" from our evolution. Regardless the fact is that evidence proves that circumcision has numerous health benefits and being uncut does not. Being uncut can put one at risk for bacteria, HIV and other STD's, and injury.

Of course in today's world as long as you are educated and know how to take care of yourself and bathe down there regularly it won't be much of an issue. And God loves uncircumcised men as much as he loves the circumcised. However it's still better for one's health to be cut.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

If you want to let adults decide, you can. If you want your child to have health benefits you can. The fact is, children are the responsiblity of their parents. If a parent wants to circumcise their son for health benefits, they can. If they don't want to, they can. It's their choice, not the child's.

ShadowMoses900

Once again, you need to learn the facts.

Circumcision

Male circumcision for HIV prevention - World Health Organization

CDC - Male Circumcision

Also this is proof that circumcision is a more healthy choice: Circumcision in Africa reduces HIV transmission - Los Angeles Times

These are all the facts. You cannot argue against them. Not choosing to cirumcise your baby boys is your choice, however it would be in their best interest for them to be circumcised. The benefits are great.

@Shadowmoses, is it true that rabbies suck the blood from circumsized babies?. bnarmz

[QUOTE="bnarmz"]@Shadowmoses, is it true that rabbies suck the blood from circumsized babies? Also, you do know the foreskin can be pulled back to expose the shaft and head, making it look just like any other circumsized penis The foreskin is design for protection, if you don't pull back the skin and clean it properly you deserve to catch an STD. Just think of it like a hoody, hoodies are cool and protect you from the outside elements. How can something that is obvious designed for protection be seen as the cause for desease? Hygene is the real issue here and since we are much more informed and cleaner these days the snip and clip of the tip is not really required, and a doctor was the first person to tell me this. ShadowMoses900

Lol what? Rabbies do not do that, where are you getting this from? You can't be serious.....that is disgusting, and it is forbidden to eat human flesh in Judaism. To do so would make one a barbarian pagan and worthy of death or exile (today we would just lock them up in prison or a nut house).

It is debatable as to what the purpose of a forskin is, many state that it serves no purpose whatsoever and is just left over "junk" from our evolution. Regardless the fact is that evidence proves that circumcision has numerous health benefits and being uncut does not. Being uncut can put one at risk for bacteria, HIV and other STD's, and injury.

Of course in today's world as long as you are educated and know how to take care of yourself and bathe down there regularly it won't be much of an issue. And God loves uncircumcised men as much as he loves the circumcised. However it's still better for one's health to be cut.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] What health benefits do minors receive by getting circumcised against their will at birth? -Sun_Tzu-

Once again, you need to learn the facts.

Circumcision

Male circumcision for HIV prevention - World Health Organization

CDC - Male Circumcision

Also this is proof that circumcision is a more healthy choice: Circumcision in Africa reduces HIV transmission - Los Angeles Times

These are all the facts. You cannot argue against them. Not choosing to cirumcise your baby boys is your choice, however it would be in their best interest for them to be circumcised. The benefits are great.

You clearly did not read the links. They show far more benefits than that.

Are you suggesting you know better than the World Health Organization, the Center for Disease Control, and the majority of medical doctors? No? Didn't think so. You are unfit to argue against circumcision. You are not an expert, they are. They know more than you and everyone else in this thread.

So if they say that circumcisoin has numerous health benefits, then it's recommended that you listen to them.

people acting as if they gona have children in the first place :lol:

It is debatable as to what the purpose of a forskin is [...]ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Once again, you need to learn the facts.

Circumcision

Male circumcision for HIV prevention - World Health Organization

CDC - Male Circumcision

Also this is proof that circumcision is a more healthy choice: Circumcision in Africa reduces HIV transmission - Los Angeles Times

These are all the facts. You cannot argue against them. Not choosing to cirumcise your baby boys is your choice, however it would be in their best interest for them to be circumcised. The benefits are great.

ShadowMoses900

You clearly did not read the links. They show far more benefits than that.

Are you suggesting you know better than the World Health Organization, the Center for Disease Control, and the majority of medical doctors? No? Didn't think so. You are unfit to argue against circumcision. You are not an expert, they are. They know more than you and everyone else in this thread.

So if they say that circumcisoin has numerous health benefits, then it's recommended that you listen to them.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]It is debatable as to what the purpose of a forskin is [...]Zeviander

people acting as if they gona have children in the first place :lol:

GrayF0X786

Shadowmoses and kingkong are against abortion because it should be the "baby's choice". Talk about circumcision and the baby's opinion doesn't mean anything. lol what a bunch of hypocrites, at least be consistent.

Hell no. My Jimmy wears his turtle neck all year long and so will my son's Jimmy. I am not going to mutilate my son over some prehistoric tradition.

They look better, feel better, and taste better. Capitan_Kid

look better, feel better, and taste better. Capitan_Kid

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]It is debatable as to what the purpose of a forskin is [...]Zeviander

This has been suggested but never proven. Most experts claim being circumcised or uncircumcised has no effect on one's sexual enjoyment or of their partner, nor is it proven that it creates a seal for the vagina or anus (the latter of which is not designed for sex to begin with).

Though many men who go from being uncut to cut report higher feelings of sexual pleasuer and some studies have found that cut men are less likely to have erectile dysfuntion later in life.

From science daily (you know, because you pretend to LOVE science so much): Circumcision Doesn't Reduce Sexual Satisfaction And Performance ..

Everything I am saying I am backing up with proof. To call what I am saying nonsense is to be calling the CDC, WHO, and the majority of medical doctors nonsense. Are you suggesting you know more than they do? Didn't think so. The only one who is spewing nonsense here is you.

or anus (the latter of which is not designed for sex to begin with)ShadowMoses900

To call what I am saying nonsense is to be calling the CDC, WHO, and the majority of medical doctors nonsense. ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]or anus (the latter of which is not designed for sex to begin with)MrPraline

What are you talking about? When did I bring up intelligent design?

I believe in Evolution, but I belive in God as well. The two are not enemies like the majority of people think.

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]look better, feel better, and taste better. Aljosa23

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]To call what I am saying nonsense is to be calling the CDC, WHO, and the majority of medical doctors nonsense. MrPraline

Last time I checked the CDC, WHO, and the majority of medical doctors ARE the authority.

I love how it's perfectly fine to mutilate a babies junk to prevent STD's but don't you dare give kids condoms and teach them sex ed because it will scar them for life.-Sun_Tzu-

1) It's no mutaliation

2) When did anyone here say they have a problem teaching sex ed to kids or how to use a condom effectively? The issue is giving out condoms inside schools, the issue is not about teaching kids about condoms or birth control or preventing access to them, just not giving them out in the schools themselves.

I love how it's perfectly fine to mutilate a babies junk to prevent STD's but don't you dare give kids condoms and teach them sex ed because it will scar them for life.-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]or anus (the latter of which is not designed for sex to begin with)ShadowMoses900

What are you talking about? When did I bring up intelligent design?

I believe in Evolution, but I belive in God as well. The two are not enemies like the majority of people think.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]To call what I am saying nonsense is to be calling the CDC, WHO, and the majority of medical doctors nonsense. ShadowMoses900

Last time I checked the CDC, WHO, and the majority of medical doctors ARE the authority.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I love how it's perfectly fine to mutilate a babies junk to prevent STD's but don't you dare give kids condoms and teach them sex ed because it will scar them for life.ShadowMoses900

1) It's no mutaliation

2) When did anyone here say they have a problem teaching sex ed to kids or how to use a condom effectively? The issue is giving out condoms inside schools, the issue is not about teaching kids about condoms or birth control or preventing access to them, just not giving them out in the schools themselves.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I love how it's perfectly fine to mutilate a babies junk to prevent STD's but don't you dare give kids condoms and teach them sex ed because it will scar them for life.ShadowMoses900

1) It's no mutaliation

2) When did anyone here say they have a problem teaching sex ed to kids or how to use a condom effectively? The issue is giving out condoms inside schools, the issue is not about teaching kids about condoms or birth control or preventing access to them, just not giving them out in the schools themselves.

Shadowmoses and kingkong are against abortion because it should be the "baby's choice". Talk about circumcision and the baby's opinion doesn't mean anything. lol what a bunch of hypocrites, at least be consistent.

Aljosa23

gota love these brave athiests on ze computer, why so insecure and defensive? if you want to live your life like a brain dead fish on dry land then so be it, no need to attack ways of life.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="MrPraline"] Why was the foreskin "designed" if it's supposed to be removed anyway? So much for intelligent design. MrPraline

What are you talking about? When did I bring up intelligent design?

I believe in Evolution, but I belive in God as well. The two are not enemies like the majority of people think.

Design as in the actual literal "design" of the anus, which is not mean for sexual intercourse. It does not self lubricate and can rip and tear, causing bleeding, infections, and hemoroides (among other issues).

It is also the riskiest sexual activity as STD's are the most high in that area, and HIV (and other STD's) are higher among people that practice anal sex over those that do not. It can also be very painful and cause sevear damage to the receptive partner if not done exactly right. The anus was not meant for sex, period.

The forskin may be a left over trait from our evolution, it could have served a purpose at one time but not anymore. It's just left over "junk" so to speak.

This has been suggested but never proven. Most experts claim being circumcised or uncircumcised has no effect on one's sexual enjoyment or of their partner, nor is it proven that it creates a seal for the vagina or anus (the latter of which is not designed for sex to begin with).ShadowMoses900

Though many men who go from being uncut to cut report higher feelings of sexual pleasuer and some studies have found that cut men are less likely to have erectile dysfuntion later in life.ShadowMoses900

*article* ShadowMoses900

Everything I am saying I am backing up with proof. To call what I am saying nonsense is to be calling the CDC, WHO, and the majority of medical doctors nonsense. Are you suggesting you know more than they do? Didn't think so. The only one who is spewing nonsense here is you.ShadowMoses900

gota love these brave athiests on ze computer, why so insecure and defensive?

GrayF0X786

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]I love how it's perfectly fine to mutilate a babies junk to prevent STD's but don't you dare give kids condoms and teach them sex ed because it will scar them for life.MrPraline

1) It's no mutaliation

2) When did anyone here say they have a problem teaching sex ed to kids or how to use a condom effectively? The issue is giving out condoms inside schools, the issue is not about teaching kids about condoms or birth control or preventing access to them, just not giving them out in the schools themselves.

Except circumcision doesn't do any of those things.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

1) It's no mutaliation

2) When did anyone here say they have a problem teaching sex ed to kids or how to use a condom effectively? The issue is giving out condoms inside schools, the issue is not about teaching kids about condoms or birth control or preventing access to them, just not giving them out in the schools themselves.

ShadowMoses900

Except circumcision doesn't do any of those things.

Probably. It is just the norm these days.