Why must the Holocaust be taught and remembered?

[QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]

To keep that part of history polarized and to show the "triumphant/good" side of the American government/military.

Never will they tell the side of history that incriminates USA

MattUD1

and the Tokyo firebombings which killed mopre than the nukes which were only dropped because the russians were coming and might spread comunism

[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Welkabonz"] Sounds like an ill-conceived political appeal to me.mingo123

Exactly.

Jesus never really liked jews

mingo123

Hence why He made them His chosen people, was born and raised a Jew, and had Jewish disciples?:|

hmmm ok

Why would he hate Jews? He was Jewish, his parents were Jewish, he had Jewish disciples, etc. Jews did nothing but welcome him (as a people, at least. There are obnoxious individuals everywhere).

[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="markop2003"]

wat??? I know ha was a christian and the church dosn't like the jews but that's not why he killed them, he was jealous because they profited from WWI and where then really rich

mingo123

Hitler severely criticised Christianity and Christians repeatedly. . . . .

Anyway, the main reason for the Holocaust was to create a perfect Aryan race (white skin, blond hair, blue eyes, six feet tall, etc.). The Holocaust was a eugenics program.

jews can have those features as well

Do you mean "Jews" as in "People who follow the Jewish religion," or "Jews" as in "People born of the Jewish race"?

Because if it's the latter, then no, they do not.

Not sure why the schools only teach the Holocaust and ignore other mass killings that have happened around the world; I am going to have to point out Japan during WW2. limpbizkit818

I wished they taught more of that, but in the UK we're taught pretty much nothing except the uk's and a bit of western europe's history

[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="markop2003"]

wat??? I know ha was a christian and the church dosn't like the jews but that's not why he killed them, he was jealous because they profited from WWI and where then really rich

mingo123

Hitler severely criticised Christianity and Christians repeatedly. . . . .

Anyway, the main reason for the Holocaust was to create a perfect Aryan race (white skin, blond hair, blue eyes, six feet tall, etc.). The Holocaust was a eugenics program.

jews can have those features as well

Well yeah, but that still doesn't stop eugenics being the main issue behind the holocaust because it is the basis of Hitler's thinking. His entire regime was based on the 1000 Year Reich which he was certain he could obtain by breeding his Aryan race. His invasions were under the pretence of acquiring living space for his grand people. Thats why others such as homosexuals, gypsies and the hadicapped were also victims of the Holocaust.

[QUOTE="markop2003"]

wat??? I know ha was a christian and the church dosn't like the jews but that's not why he killed them, he was jealous because they profited from WWI and where then really rich

Dracargen

Hitler severely criticised Christianity and Christians repeatedly. . . . .

Anyway, the main reason for the Holocaust was to create a perfect Aryan race (white skin, blond hair, blue eyes, six feet tall, etc.). The Holocaust was a eugenics program.

only because they critisised him, they thought he was too violant, then he set up his own church and replaced the leaders to shut them up

Aryen race idea wasn't as big as you think, just look at the nazi high command, how many are Aryan?

[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="markop2003"]

wat??? I know ha was a christian and the church dosn't like the jews but that's not why he killed them, he was jealous because they profited from WWI and where then really rich

MissLibrarian

Hitler severely criticised Christianity and Christians repeatedly. . . . .

Anyway, the main reason for the Holocaust was to create a perfect Aryan race (white skin, blond hair, blue eyes, six feet tall, etc.). The Holocaust was a eugenics program.

jews can have those features as well

Well yeah, but that still doesn't stop eugenics being the main issue behind the holocaust because it is the basis of Hitler's thinking. His entire regime was based on the 1000 Year Reich which he was certain he could obtain by breeding his Aryan race. His invasions were under the pretence of acquiring living space for his grand people. Thats why others such as homosexuals, gypsies and the hadicapped were also victims of the Holocaust.

And Jehovahs, because they wouldn't heil Big H.

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]Not sure why the schools only teach the Holocaust and ignore other mass killings that have happened around the world; I am going to have to point out Japan during WW2. markop2003

I wished they taught more of that, but in the UK we're taught pretty much nothing except the uk's and a bit of western europe's history

[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="markop2003"]

wat??? I know ha was a christian and the church dosn't like the jews but that's not why he killed them, he was jealous because they profited from WWI and where then really rich

Dracargen

Hitler severely criticised Christianity and Christians repeatedly. . . . .

Anyway, the main reason for the Holocaust was to create a perfect Aryan race (white skin, blond hair, blue eyes, six feet tall, etc.). The Holocaust was a eugenics program.

jews can have those features as well

Do you mean "Jews" as in "People who follow the Jewish religion," or "Jews" as in "People born of the Jewish race"?

Because if it's the latter, then no, they do not.

i havent heard of the jewish race

[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

Hitler was a Christian not Athiest, he killed jews for lord

mingo123

Hitler was pagan, if anything.:roll:

he killed jews for lord jesus

Lord Jesus was a Jew.:|

Jesus never really liked jews

:|

[QUOTE="markop2003"]

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]Not sure why the schools only teach the Holocaust and ignore other mass killings that have happened around the world; I am going to have to point out Japan during WW2. lucky326

I wished they taught more of that, but in the UK we're taught pretty much nothing except the uk's and a bit of western europe's history

We learned about political progress from 1832 until the creation of the welfare state after the second world war. And also the mid-war period and appeasment etc.

only because they critisised him, they thought he was too violant, then he set up his own church and replaced the leaders to shut them up

Aryen race idea wasn't as big as you think, just look at the nazi high command, how many are Aryan?

markop2003

That's always been a confusion. Perhaps Hitler had envy of the Aryan race. But one thing is for certain: That was his perfect world. Hitler himself was kind of short, with black hair and (brown?) eyes.

[QUOTE="markop2003"]

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]Not sure why the schools only teach the Holocaust and ignore other mass killings that have happened around the world; I am going to have to point out Japan during WW2. lucky326

I wished they taught more of that, but in the UK we're taught pretty much nothing except the uk's and a bit of western europe's history

We did a bit on the Normans and Saxons, then there's the nazi germany course and the medicine one. Don't see why we didn't cover oriental medicine though, India and China were really advanced, some of the rich African nations were quite good to

I find it pretty dumb.

Its amazing how we are taught this in school, we should just forget about this stuff because I can't figure out a valid reason about why we should remeber the deaths of millions of people and World War 2. Sure, Hitler killed the Jews only because they were Jews, but isn't that the reason why we should forget about this stuff and leave it as is.

I go to a public school and learn this stuff; it sucks. Does anybody agree with me or do you believe that this stuff should be remembered always?:x

pspdseagle

[QUOTE="markop2003"]

only because they critisised him, they thought he was too violant, then he set up his own church and replaced the leaders to shut them up

Aryen race idea wasn't as big as you think, just look at the nazi high command, how many are Aryan?

Dracargen

That's always been a confusion. Perhaps Hitler had envy of the Aryan race. But one thing is for certain: That was his perfect world. Hitler himself was kind of short, with black hair and (brown?) eyes.

i think it might have just been cause they were the opposite of the jewish stereotype

This is a little off-topic, but I think that it fits kind of well.

This is a little off-topic, but I think that it fits kind of well.

Jaks_Secret

And you call me awesome?:lol:

Hitler didnt practice any religion tbh ,

Hitler was allowed to whip up the hate for jews as they brought a lot of it on themselves In the Pre WW1/2 Eras tbh ,

Its not a nice fact but no one liked the Jews then ! Hitler thought he was doing everyone in Europe a favour, this isnt my personal thoughts just facts ,

[QUOTE="ElZilcho90"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="ElZilcho90"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="MattUD1"]

Let's not forget McCarthyism.
THE_DRUGGIE

Indeed. It was a modern witch hunt with communism. It's a shame he came from my state.

You know... McCarthy was right. Evidence surfaced that there were thousands of members of the federal government who were directly involved with/spying for the Soviets, including upper-level officials and presidential aides.

And got innocent people killed in the process.

What do you mean?

I remember in History calss that there was a couple suspected of treason and sentenced to death for allegedly being associated with the communists.

The thing is.. why is being a communist treason?

Franken_berry

If thats aimed at me , Yes Im serious , the European post war Jew was hated by everyone , its a well known Fact !

I find it pretty dumb.

Its amazing how we are taught this in school, we should just forget about this stuff because I can't figure out a valid reason about why we should remeber the deaths of millions of people and World War 2. Sure, Hitler killed the Jews only because they were Jews, but isn't that the reason why we should forget about this stuff and leave it as is.

I go to a public school and learn this stuff; it sucks. Does anybody agree with me or do you believe that this stuff should be remembered always?:x

pspdseagle

I find it pretty dumb.

Its amazing how we are taught this in school, we should just forget about this stuff because I can't figure out a valid reason about why we should remeber the deaths of millions of people and World War 2. Sure, Hitler killed the Jews only because they were Jews, but isn't that the reason why we should forget about this stuff and leave it as is.

I go to a public school and learn this stuff; it sucks. Does anybody agree with me or do you believe that this stuff should be remembered always?:x

pspdseagle

umm...so it doesn't happen again?

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"][QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="Truth_Seekr"]

To keep that part of history polarized and to show the "triumphant/good" side of the American government/military.

Never will they tell the side of history that incriminates USA

MattUD1

whatever falls along that line. be it the creation of the Federal Reserve - funding both sides of WWII - Vietnam - the recent false flag operation(ahem 9-11) - plus a whole lot more. take your pick....

And let's not forget the other horrible things like the Waco Massacre and the Queens riots of the early 90s.

Trust me, they teach us plenty of negative things our country's government, military, police force, and citizens have done over the years.

Oh, LORDY let's not forget about that farce...imagine if we repeated that? We'd be a laughing stock...well, more of one than we are now, I mean.

The fate of those Jewish people (however many)who were Murdered should never be forgot....

as some guy said (Burke I think ?) When good men do nothing, Evil will triumph....look what happened in Rwanda

The fate of those Jewish people (however many)who were Murdered should never be forgot....

as some guy said (Burke I think ?) When good men do nothing, Evil will triumph....look what happened in Rwanda

keanny

Franken_berry

If thats aimed at me , Yes Im serious , the European post war Jew was hated by everyone , its a well known Fact !

keanny

Anti-Semitism hit a Renaissance in the early 20th century with the publication of "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion." >_>

[QUOTE="Jaks_Secret"]

This is a little off-topic, but I think that it fits kind of well.

Dracargen

And you call me awesome?:lol:

:P

PannicAtack

Im glad someone knows their history see the Medieval times , when they were also charged with child snatching an killing

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

Hitler was a Christian not Athiest, he killed jews for lord

Dracargen

Hitler was pagan, if anything.:roll:

Hitler was Hitler (a nutcase)

to define him by his beliefs is unnecessary

The Holocaust should be taught in history classes, for the simple fact that it's part of history.

The question answers itself. >_>

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="ElZilcho90"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"][QUOTE="ElZilcho90"][QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Let's not forget McCarthyism.
hojobojo

Indeed. It was a modern witch hunt with communism. It's a shame he came from my state.

You know... McCarthy was right. Evidence surfaced that there were thousands of members of the federal government who were directly involved with/spying for the Soviets, including upper-level officials and presidential aides.

And got innocent people killed in the process.

What do you mean?

I remember in History calss that there was a couple suspected of treason and sentenced to death for allegedly being associated with the communists.

This thread was stupid enough to make me post. (First post!) Normally I just browse the forums. Anyway the Rosenbergs were in fact guilty, although they were charged with conspiracy to commit espionage. Ethel was an accomplice, but Julius was a direct involvment. Another person involved was David Greenglass, who helped forward the secrets to Julius. Greenglass was given his freedom by testifying against his sister, Ethel, and Julius. If the government knew what it did today, they would have been charged with treason and killed, or more likely, only Julius. Ethel was only an accomplice. Conspiracy to commit espionage does not warrant to the death penalty, so although they didn't deserve to be killed under that charge, they weren't innocent. They weren't innocent at all.

I find it pretty dumb.

Its amazing how we are taught this in school, we should just forget about this stuff because I can't figure out a valid reason about why we should remeber the deaths of millions of people and World War 2. Sure, Hitler killed the Jews only because they were Jews, but isn't that the reason why we should forget about this stuff and leave it as is.

I go to a public school and learn this stuff; it sucks. Does anybody agree with me or do you believe that this stuff should be remembered always?:x

pspdseagle

Thats the dumbest thing ive heard in ages. Thats like if you went to your mums funeral and the guy running it was like "Hey, you know what, this is all in the past so who cares to be honest?"

I find it pretty dumb.

Its amazing how we are taught this in school, we should just forget about this stuff because I can't figure out a valid reason about why we should remeber the deaths of millions of people and World War 2. Sure, Hitler killed the Jews only because they were Jews, but isn't that the reason why we should forget about this stuff and leave it as is.

I go to a public school and learn this stuff; it sucks. Does anybody agree with me or do you believe that this stuff should be remembered always?:x

pspdseagle

I can see why you are somewhat angry regarding this. I've learned about the Holocaust all too many times in school and perhaps not enough about other human catastrophes. Freshman year in high school was the first time I had ever heard about the Rwandan and Armenian genocides, when I had learned about the Holocaust maybe in 4th grade. Even then, we barely spent any time learning about them, and I hadn't been taught about those genocides since.

I think the Holocaust is taught so much because it affected most of the world in some way, whereas the Rwandan/Armenian genocides seemed to happen on "smaller scales" which simply means that too many people didn't hear about it, or it wasn't a big deal to most people around the world.

TC Think about what you said. History must be learned so we do not make the same mistakes we did in the past. Besides, are we just supposed to forget about the millions of people brutally murdered by the disgusting nazis? This topic also offends me slightly considering I'm jewish.

[QUOTE="pspdseagle"]

I find it pretty dumb.

Its amazing how we are taught this in school, we should just forget about this stuff because I can't figure out a valid reason about why we should remeber the deaths of millions of people and World War 2. Sure, Hitler killed the Jews only because they were Jews, but isn't that the reason why we should forget about this stuff and leave it as is.

I go to a public school and learn this stuff; it sucks. Does anybody agree with me or do you believe that this stuff should be remembered always?:x

toxic_jackal

I can see why you are somewhat angry regarding this. I've learned about the Holocaust all too many times in school and perhaps not enough about other human catastrophes. Freshman year in high school was the first time I had ever heard about the Rwandan and Armenian genocides, when I had learned about the Holocaust maybe in 4th grade. Even then, we barely spent any time learning about them, and I hadn't been taught about those genocides since.

I think the Holocaust is taught so much because it affected most of the world in some way, whereas the Rwandan/Armenian genocides seemed to happen on "smaller scales" which simply means that too many people didn't hear about it, or it wasn't a big deal to most people around the world.

Considering that it led to WWII, which had more casualties than any other conflict in history (over 70 million), and happened less than a hundred years ago, it's probably still pretty fresh in the minds of the world.

[QUOTE="toxic_jackal"][QUOTE="pspdseagle"]

I find it pretty dumb.

Its amazing how we are taught this in school, we should just forget about this stuff because I can't figure out a valid reason about why we should remeber the deaths of millions of people and World War 2. Sure, Hitler killed the Jews only because they were Jews, but isn't that the reason why we should forget about this stuff and leave it as is.

I go to a public school and learn this stuff; it sucks. Does anybody agree with me or do you believe that this stuff should be remembered always?:x

Dracargen

I can see why you are somewhat angry regarding this. I've learned about the Holocaust all too many times in school and perhaps not enough about other human catastrophes. Freshman year in high school was the first time I had ever heard about the Rwandan and Armenian genocides, when I had learned about the Holocaust maybe in 4th grade. Even then, we barely spent any time learning about them, and I hadn't been taught about those genocides since.

I think the Holocaust is taught so much because it affected most of the world in some way, whereas the Rwandan/Armenian genocides seemed to happen on "smaller scales" which simply means that too many people didn't hear about it, or it wasn't a big deal to most people around the world.

Considering that it led to WWII, which had more casualties than any other conflict in history (over 70 million), and happened less than a hundred years ago, it's probably still pretty fresh in the minds of the world.

WWII was happening already before the Holocaust started, Hitler started the Holocaust because he got his a s s kicked in Russia

[QUOTE="MattUD1"]This topic offends me in so many ways...DarkKar

I doubt you'd be offended if history was never taught.

this is OT. You were bound to be offended sometime

It happened. Deal with it. How about when you die, we wipe every record of your existance from the earth, you are just one person, after all. Why should we remember you?

History is important.

I gather TC is one of those people who can't sit still in class and impulsively scratches his crotch in a desperate attempt to make time go faster?

Most of the people who can't find anything interesting in history are those kinds of people...