Why is being a Christian so difficult?

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Oh dear god, do you realise how waco america is? Travel, do you even have a passport?

tenaka2

Pandas are people to ya racist!

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[QUOTE="whipassmt"] Yes I have a passport. I got mine in 2008 with that stimulus/booster shot money President Bush sent us. My family and I used the passports to go on a cruise. So take that ya big fat panda bear!

whipassmt

Pandas are people to ya racist!

So you are against americans now?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] I do, and tenka is correct. tenaka2

Oh dear, I realise you have amazing skills at tangents and the derailment of threads, however you have a huge fundemantal flaw.

All your opinions, ideas and reasoning are based upon a book written 2000 years ago by sheep herders. Until you start thinking for yourself and form your own opinion on matters you are limited and crippled.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I do, and he's wrong.LJS9502_basic

Oh dear, I realise you have amazing skills at tangents and the derailment of threads, however you have a huge fundemantal flaw.

All your opinions, ideas and reasoning are based upon a book written 2000 years ago by sheep herders. Until you start thinking for yourself and form your own opinion on matters you are limited and crippled.

Straw man? Your outlook is based on religion, your arguments are based on religion your opinions are based upon religion.

You do know what a strawman is right?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Oh dear, I realise you have amazing skills at tangents and the derailment of threads, however you have a huge fundemantal flaw.

All your opinions, ideas and reasoning are based upon a book written 2000 years ago by sheep herders. Until you start thinking for yourself and form your own opinion on matters you are limited and crippled.

tenaka2

Straw man? Your outlook is based on religion, your arguments are based on religion your opinions are based upon religion.

You do know what a strawman is right?

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Straw man. We were talking about your lack of experience living in the US. But it's not like we aren't used to your constant deflections in other threads.....wis3boi

Straw man? Your outlook is based on religion, your arguments are based on religion your opinions are based upon religion.

You do know what a strawman is right?

Thanks :)I am also wondering Lj has been trained to kill by his government how does that factor in to the 'Christain Way of love' that we always hear about?

Soz if your not ex mil, thought you were.

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Straw man? Your outlook is based on religion, your arguments are based on religion your opinions are based upon religion.

You do know what a strawman is right?

tenaka2

Thanks :)I am also wondering Lj has been trained to kill by his government how does that factor in to the 'Christain Way of love' that we always hear about?

Soz if your not ex mil, thought you were.

:D

No i'm not ex military. But :lol: @ christian way of love.

It ain't easy being cheesyGamingVengeance

That's what I'm sayin'.

i wonder how its like being a Muslim then

.....oh wait!:|

I agree. Christians are constantly discriminated against in society for their lifestyle choices or something

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Oh dear, I realise you have amazing skills at tangents and the derailment of threads, however you have a huge fundemantal flaw.

All your opinions, ideas and reasoning are based upon a book written 2000 years ago by sheep herders. Until you start thinking for yourself and form your own opinion on matters you are limited and crippled.

tenaka2

Straw man? Your outlook is based on religion, your arguments are based on religion your opinions are based upon religion.

You do know what a strawman is right?

Try being Muslim.Tigerman950

Pass.

Try being Muslim.Tigerman950

[QUOTE="Tigerman950"]Try being Muslim.ultimameteora

Not exactly what I meant; I can't drink, date girls, eat pork or other haram meat, get laid, gamble, go to nightclubs, go to parties at my college, jerk off, watch porn, etc. I hate to sound like a whining teenager but believe me, you guys get to do way more than we're allowed to.

Not to mention I can't even eat right now. It's Ramadan and I'll be fasting until the 20th of August, though that I've gotten used to by now (I've been doing it since I was 12). But keeping up with that and praying 5 times a day year-round does present itself as a challenge every once in a while.

[QUOTE="ultimameteora"][QUOTE="Tigerman950"]Try being Muslim.Tigerman950

Not exactly what I meant; I can't drink, date girls, eat pork or other haram meat, get laid, gamble, go to nightclubs, go to parties at my college, watch porn, etc. I hate to sound like a whining teenager but believe me, you guys get to do way more than we're allowed to.

Not to mention I can't even eat right now. It's Ramadan and I'll be fasting until the 20th of August, though that I've gotten used to by now (I've been doing it since I was 12). But keeping up with that and praying 5 times a day year-round does present itself as a challenge every once in a while.

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[QUOTE="ultimameteora"]They're still Christian in a sense, so am I, also being Christian to me is more than accepting Jesus, you have to be active.toast_burner

Not exactly what I meant; I can't drink, date girls, eat pork or other haram meat, get laid, gamble, go to nightclubs, go to parties at my college, watch porn, etc. I hate to sound like a whining teenager but believe me, you guys get to do way more than we're allowed to.

Not to mention I can't even eat right now. It's Ramadan and I'll be fasting until the 20th of August, though that I've gotten used to by now (I've been doing it since I was 12). But keeping up with that and praying 5 times a day year-round does present itself as a challenge every once in a while.

As a Muslim who practices his religion I can't.

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[QUOTE="Tigerman950"]

Not exactly what I meant; I can't drink, date girls, eat pork or other haram meat, get laid, gamble, go to nightclubs, go to parties at my college, watch porn, etc. I hate to sound like a whining teenager but believe me, you guys get to do way more than we're allowed to.

Not to mention I can't even eat right now. It's Ramadan and I'll be fasting until the 20th of August, though that I've gotten used to by now (I've been doing it since I was 12). But keeping up with that and praying 5 times a day year-round does present itself as a challenge every once in a while.

Tigerman950

As a Muslim who practices his religion I can't.

[QUOTE="ultimameteora"][QUOTE="Tigerman950"]Try being Muslim.Tigerman950

Not exactly what I meant; I can't drink, date girls, eat pork or other haram meat, get laid, gamble, go to nightclubs, go to parties at my college, jerk off, watch porn, etc. I hate to sound like a whining teenager but believe me, you guys get to do way more than we're allowed to.

Not to mention I can't even eat right now. It's Ramadan and I'll be fasting until the 20th of August, though that I've gotten used to by now (I've been doing it since I was 12). But keeping up with that and praying 5 times a day year-round does present itself as a challenge every once in a while.

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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]You can do all that stuff, you just don't

l4dak47

As a Muslim who practices his religion I can't.

But I'm talking to other people who willfully follow organized religion and think they have it rough.

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Tigerman950"]

As a Muslim who practices his religion I can't.

Tigerman950

But I'm talking to other people who willfully follow organized religion and think they have it rough.

so stfu and stop whining. l4dak47

[QUOTE="l4dak47"]so stfu and stop whining. FMAB_GTO

No, you're fine. I'm not saying I dislike or disagree with my religion's ideas or teachings. Of course I want to follow it otherwise I wouldn't be. I'm just talking about the more difficult aspects of following an organized religion since that's what this thread is all about.

A lot of people disagree here (which is fine) but I'd like to hear someone who strictly follows all the same things and say they disagree completely.

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="l4dak47"]so stfu and stop whining. Tigerman950

No, you're fine. I'm not saying I dislike or disagree with my religion's ideas or teachings. Of course I want to follow it otherwise I wouldn't be. I'm just talking about the more difficult aspects of following an organized religion since that's what this thread is all about.

A lot of people disagree here (which is fine) but I'd like to hear someone who strictly follows all the same things and say they disagree completely.

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[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"] Indeed,if you don't like a religion's ideas and are not satisfied/not convinced by it just change it or something. No offense though,so please excuse me if i was rude Tigerman950 ;]FMAB_GTO

No, you're fine. I'm not saying I dislike or disagree with my religion's ideas or teachings. Of course I want to follow it otherwise I wouldn't be. I'm just talking about the more difficult aspects of following an organized religion since that's what this thread is all about.

A lot of people disagree here (which is fine) but I'd like to hear someone who strictly follows all the same things and say they disagree completely.

I'm not doing it just for my family, yes they taught me much of it and I inherited a lot of it from them but I'd still do it even if I was all on my own.

Ramadan Mubarak to you as well ;)

[QUOTE="FMAB_GTO"][QUOTE="Tigerman950"]

No, you're fine. I'm not saying I dislike or disagree with my religion's ideas or teachings. Of course I want to follow it otherwise I wouldn't be. I'm just talking about the more difficult aspects of following an organized religion since that's what this thread is all about.

A lot of people disagree here (which is fine) but I'd like to hear someone who strictly follows all the same things and say they disagree completely.

Tigerman950

I'm not doing it just for my family, yes they taught me much of it and I inherited a lot of it from them but I'd still do it even if I was all on my own.

Ramadan Mubarak to you as well ;)

[QUOTE="Tigerman950"]Try being Muslim.ultimameteora

[QUOTE="ultimameteora"][QUOTE="Tigerman950"]Try being Muslim.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="ultimameteora"][QUOTE="Tigerman950"]Try being Muslim.Tigerman950

Not exactly what I meant; I can't drink, date girls, eat pork or other haram meat, get laid, gamble, go to nightclubs, go to parties at my college, jerk off, watch porn, etc. I hate to sound like a whining teenager but believe me, you guys get to do way more than we're allowed to.

Exactly why I can't respect organized religion. I'm especially referring to the part about masturbation I find organized religion's propensity to villify the satisfaction of natural human urges particularly reprehensible. Extreme asceticism is a terrible philosophy, all it leads to is repression and unwarranted feelings of guilt. I much prefer the Aristotelian mean condition.

Being a christian isn't difficult.

Being a christian with a deep seated need to push religion into politics can be difficult.

tenaka2

I come here asking for help because i see alot of religious and christian threads here in OT.

I have to spread the word, even at the risk of being an outcast and/or rejected by friends, family and strangers. I have to abandon all the sinful things that i used to do. And i have to give God time in the day for the Bible and prayer.

With those basic Christian things aside, the attacks from Satan are difficult too... they are so vicious and mislead me! In the blink of an eye, i find myself doing the things i used to as soon as i put my mind on worldly things... even for a second.

I admit, i fail from time to time, but i do pick myself back up. Its just that sometimes i find it all very overwhelming. Is it more difficult for me because i am a late Christian? meaning that after years of a worldly lifestyle, this sudden change is normal to be difficult on me?

Second_Hokage

It ain't difficult specially if you are that devoted and sincere with your beliefs.

It ain't difficult specially if you are that devoted and sincere with your beliefs.

Lovely637

It really isn't, lol.

The Bible says that Satan is misleading the entire inhabited Earth (Revelation 12:9). What this means is that it will be very difficult to walk the straight and narrow path of a true Christian. Basically the whole world is pressuring you to do otherwise, 24/7. The best way to do it is to surround yourself with others who are trying to live the same way that you are.

Because you're trying too hard.

I honestly can't decide if the OP is sarcastic or serious.

Because people have very little self control and being a "good christian" requires self control. It has nothing to do with Satan, it has to do with a persons ability to do things (or not do things) even when those experiences may not be the most pleasurable experience for the body or mind.

Because people have very little self control and being a "good christian" requires self control. It has nothing to do with Satan, it has to do with a persons ability to do things (or not do things) even when those experiences may not be the most pleasurable experience for the body or mind.

hoola

Very well said. It's about long-term payoff vs. impulsiveness and short-term gratification. Not getting caught up in the mob mentality that is this world is tough.

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Because people have very little self control and being a "good christian" requires self control. It has nothing to do with Satan, it has to do with a persons ability to do things (or not do things) even when those experiences may not be the most pleasurable experience for the body or mind.

hartsickdiscipl

Very well said. It's about long-term payoff vs. impulsiveness and short-term gratification. Not getting caught up in the mob mentality that is this world is tough.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Straw man. We were talking about your lack of experience living in the US. But it's not like we aren't used to your constant deflections in other threads.....LJS9502_basic

Straw man? Your outlook is based on religion, your arguments are based on religion your opinions are based upon religion.

You do know what a strawman is right?

lol
Such a good response

The Bible says that Satan is misleading the entire inhabited Earth (Revelation 12:9). What this means is that it will be very difficult to walk the straight and narrow path of a true Christian. Basically the whole world is pressuring you to do otherwise, 24/7. The best way to do it is to surround yourself with others who are trying to live the same way that you are.

hartsickdiscipl

Being a Christian is easy. All you have to do is pretend.

Being a Christian is difficult because you are demanded of much which in our fallen state is difficult to do or accomplish. Only through communion to Christ his body, repentance and prayer can we even begin to live as we are demanded.