University Sponsors Campaign to Undermine 'White Privilege'

[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

"I don't seem to understand"

You're speaking of hate breeding towards blacks through generations of white guys, yet you never mentioned hate breeding towards whites through generations of black guys.

You're trying to argue about how bad it is to be on one side of the coin but never make mention of the other side.

That's racist, period.

If you don't "appreciate calling you as such" then you should widen your argument's scope.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="gamerguru100"]

Another thing that pisses me off (it's in a lot of textbooks and articles):

African American

Asian American

Native American

Hispanic/Latino

and then...

White?

If political correctness is the country's national religion, then start calling us European Americans.

Jesus.

DaJuicyMan

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Marth6781"] Are you that dense? 2-3 generations directly leads up to everyone that is in their 20's-30's right now. Those people are alive and well my friend. Any child growing up during those times that had their parents teach them those things will inherently pass that on to thier kids. Some realize such and direct their children towards tolerance, but to say that the people whom directly influcend such events aren't alive and kicking(baby boomer generation) is asinine.Marth6781

You seem to think since i'm black i'm angry or something at white people.Marth6781

When you can get a job over someone who is more qualified than you JUST BECAUSE you're a minority, that's a privilege and it's unfair.

airshocker

Yeah, but hiring under-qualified minorities over qualified whites is not the answer...that's discrimination. gamerguru100

And when you can't get a job over someone who is less qualified than you simply because you are applying to a job that seemingly only hire white people (or like just someone of a more specific ethnicity, irsh, jewish, etc), then thats unfair too.

AA has its share of problems, and its not likely the solution to the problem. But that doesn't undermine what i said: You may as well complain about poor people being lucky because they have charities.

And yet what those programs do is create legal discrimination against a majority.LJS9502_basic

No it doesn't. It forces larger companies to diversify. But is diversity for the sake of diversity a good thing? Probably not. But its not "legal discrimination."

. Let's recap one of the dumbest statements in this thread: Nibroc420 wrote "Black people these days dont know what racism is. Back in the early 1900's, those people could complain." So now they can't complain if their father is run over by a group of teenagers that specifically seek out blacks to harass and assault. His response: "WELL IT WAS A YEAR AGO SO I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT BIG OF AN ISSUE." Anyone arguing that racism is dead is grossly misinformed and Nibroc420 in particular is so affixed on his own agenda of white injustice that he's spoken bigotry.GOLIABOMB

The ONLY way to end racism is to treat everyone the same. Period.

I usually say "white", "black", "Hispanic", and "Asian", as well, but seeing my peeve in textbooks and articles so much makes me want to facedesk 63 times in a row. gamerguru100

Getting so worked up over fairly meaningless semantics is probably something you should fix.

[QUOTE="rocinante_"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No. As a society as I stated in the post you couldn't comprehend.....there is more social integration than ever. So if you want an answer as society as a whole the answer is no. Otherwise we would not have the laws we do. Individuals exist in any and ALL groups that harbor racist thoughts. But as for society...no. And believing that is merely an excuse for the individuals doing so.Nibroc420

there's a reason minorities are called minorities, even though they sometimes make up the majority of the population. that in instelf should be an indication that whites are NOT equally socially stigmitized as other racial groups in the usa. you're delusional if you think otherwise.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And yet what those programs do is create legal discrimination against a majority.XaosII

No it doesn't. It forces larger companies to diversify. But is diversity for the sake of diversity a good thing? Probably not. But its not "legal discrimination."

[QUOTE="gamerguru100"] I usually say "white", "black", "Hispanic", and "Asian", as well, but seeing my peeve in textbooks and articles so much makes me want to facedesk 63 times in a row. XaosII

Getting so worked up over fairly meaningless semantics is probably something you should fix.

And when you can't get a job over someone who is less qualified than you simply because you are applying to a job that seemingly only hire white people (or like just someone of a more specific ethnicity, irsh, jewish, etc), then thats unfair too.

AA has its share of problems, and its not likely the solution to the problem. But that doesn't undermine what i said: You may as well complain about poor people being lucky because they have charities.

XaosII

An analogy with charity is deeply flawed and you should know that.

[QUOTE="GOLIABOMB"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Racism spreads because people look for it.gamerguru100

[QUOTE="GOLIABOMB"]. Let's recap one of the dumbest statements in this thread: Nibroc420 wrote "Black people these days dont know what racism is. Back in the early 1900's, those people could complain." So now they can't complain if their father is run over by a group of teenagers that specifically seek out blacks to harass and assault. His response: "WELL IT WAS A YEAR AGO SO I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT BIG OF AN ISSUE." Anyone arguing that racism is dead is grossly misinformed and Nibroc420 in particular is so affixed on his own agenda of white injustice that he's spoken bigotry.LJS9502_basic

The ONLY way to end racism is to treat everyone the same. Period.

So let me get this straight guys. When my father said he'd disown me for dating a black woman, that's not racist? !GOLIABOMB

[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Bull. You're looking for an excuse. Any child growing up? So minority parents taught their children to be racist? In point of fact the 2-3 generations you talk about would have been those that wanted to civil rights. In point of fact many white people stood for that. In point of fact the laws that were passed were passed by white people. So stop whining about the past and do something to change the future. Dwelling on the past basically breeds racism. And you have the audacity to tell me you're not racist? Is this a YLYL thread? Cause I just lost.....LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="GOLIABOMB"]. Let's recap one of the dumbest statements in this thread: Nibroc420 wrote "Black people these days dont know what racism is. Back in the early 1900's, those people could complain." So now they can't complain if their father is run over by a group of teenagers that specifically seek out blacks to harass and assault. His response: "WELL IT WAS A YEAR AGO SO I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT BIG OF AN ISSUE." Anyone arguing that racism is dead is grossly misinformed and Nibroc420 in particular is so affixed on his own agenda of white injustice that he's spoken bigotry.GOLIABOMB

The ONLY way to end racism is to treat everyone the same. Period.

Wow you really are retarded. Let's recap one of the dumbest statements in this thread: Nibroc420 wrote "Black people these days dont know what racism is. Back in the early 1900's, those people could complain." So now they can't complain if their father is run over by a group of teenagers that specifically seek out blacks to harass and assault. His response: "WELL IT WAS A YEAR AGO SO I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT BIG OF AN ISSUE." Anyone arguing that racism is dead is grossly misinformed and Nibroc420 in particular is so affixed on his own agenda of white injustice that he's spoken bigotry.GOLIABOMB

He never said "it's not that big of an issue" or anything like that.

And you're the one calling someone else retarded. :roll:

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Marth6781"] Once again what I am saying is going completely over your head. Read my damn post again. All your doing is taking statements and trying to pull any hint of racism that i may have out. I have not done the same towards you, so why would you do such? When you commetned on any child growing up in my earlier post i directly typed up that many parents during that time realized the bad and made sure that they did not spread racism. So why are you so bent up on attacking me personally and not my arguements.Marth6781

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Marth6781"] Once again what I am saying is going completely over your head. Read my damn post again. All your doing is taking statements and trying to pull any hint of racism that i may have out. I have not done the same towards you, so why would you do such? When you commetned on any child growing up in my earlier post i directly typed up that many parents during that time realized the bad and made sure that they did not spread racism. So why are you so bent up on attacking me personally and not my arguements.Marth6781

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And yet what those programs do is create legal discrimination against a majority.LJS9502_basic

No it doesn't. It forces larger companies to diversify. But is diversity for the sake of diversity a good thing? Probably not. But its not "legal discrimination."

No it doesn't. The specific case you present is extremely rare. Hell, cases of nepotism are far more common than the specific scenario you are claiming. Stop making a straw man out of an exceedingly rare circumstance to claim that argument doesn't work.

[QUOTE="GOLIABOMB"]So let me get this straight guys. When my father said he'd disown me for dating a black woman, that's not racist? !LJS9502_basic

You seem to think since i'm black i'm angry or something at white people.Marth6781

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="GOLIABOMB"]. Let's recap one of the dumbest statements in this thread: Nibroc420 wrote "Black people these days dont know what racism is. Back in the early 1900's, those people could complain." So now they can't complain if their father is run over by a group of teenagers that specifically seek out blacks to harass and assault. His response: "WELL IT WAS A YEAR AGO SO I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT BIG OF AN ISSUE." Anyone arguing that racism is dead is grossly misinformed and Nibroc420 in particular is so affixed on his own agenda of white injustice that he's spoken bigotry.GOLIABOMB

The ONLY way to end racism is to treat everyone the same. Period.

My posts are pretty spot on. All I have done is address certain statements that don't hold merit. And the second part of your arguement is approacing ls sippery slope man, you think I am racist because you have a serious problem with selective reading. I told you directly that I was referencing the RACIST people during that time period and yet you claim I am lumping all white pople into one category? Are you serious? Like seriously, how can you say that after reading any of my posts...Marth6781

Ironic.

You ignored my post completely and you claim somebody else has a serious problem with selective reading. Let me refresh your memory:

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]Why do I have to represent two sides of the coin when you are arguing agisnt the side of the coin im defending? That's complete bias. Speaking the truth of how racism spreads doesn't make me racist. The discussion is completely on what I was talking about. You keep trying to bring more arguments into the original argument. Stick to what you speak my friend.N30F3N1X

Bullsh!t. I never argued against your point.

My first reply to you was

Why are you talking about it as if it's a one-way thing?Myself

Ignoring a blatant flaw in your argument, calling *me* biased for pointing it out, and then claiming that flaw is not part of the original argument...

I can totally see you're not biased nor racist *at all* ;)

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

No it doesn't. It forces larger companies to diversify. But is diversity for the sake of diversity a good thing? Probably not. But its not "legal discrimination."

XaosII

No it doesn't. The specific case you present is extremely rare. Hell, cases of nepotism are far more common than the specific scenario you are claiming. Stop making a straw man out of an exceedingly rare circumstance to claim that argument doesn't work.

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]lol, I was playing COD with a friend of mine who speaks German a couple years back and he actually couldn't understand what the German guys were saying because their words were so distorted and loud so as to pertuate the stereotype that German is a very angry language. Felt bad for the guy.

N30F3N1X

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

And when you can't get a job over someone who is less qualified than you simply because you are applying to a job that seemingly only hire white people (or like just someone of a more specific ethnicity, irsh, jewish, etc), then thats unfair too.

AA has its share of problems, and its not likely the solution to the problem. But that doesn't undermine what i said: You may as well complain about poor people being lucky because they have charities.

N30F3N1X

An analogy with charity is deeply flawed and you should know that.

So is equating "non-white privilege" and affirmitive action/scholarships.

[QUOTE="GOLIABOMB"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I don't think anyone is saying racism is dead in this thread. However, it's not a societal movement and in fact society has placed laws to protect against discrimination. But what is NOT being said in this thread is that minorities can be racist as well. And are. There is a double standard when it comes to racism. Anything that is even perceived as racist that a white person might say there is a huge out cry. Yet minorities get a free pass.

The ONLY way to end racism is to treat everyone the same. Period.

Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"] I missed the part where the video mentioned black people.VanHelsingBoA64

[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I did read your statement. And the chronology was off. And frankly you're all over the map with your statements. The only thing I get for sure from your statements was that you generalize and demonize white people. Sure you try to play it off but it's there in the intent and the underlying meaning of your words. Period. You can deny all you want....but ask yourself this....why do your posts give several individuals the idea that you're racist? It has to come from your words.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="DaJuicyMan"][QUOTE="gamerguru100"]

Another thing that pisses me off (it's in a lot of textbooks and articles):

African American

Asian American

Native American

Hispanic/Latino

and then...

White?

If political correctness is the country's national religion, then start calling us European Americans.

Jesus.

juden41

[QUOTE="GOLIABOMB"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I don't think anyone is saying racism is dead in this thread. However, it's not a societal movement and in fact society has placed laws to protect against discrimination. But what is NOT being said in this thread is that minorities can be racist as well. And are. There is a double standard when it comes to racism. Anything that is even perceived as racist that a white person might say there is a huge out cry. Yet minorities get a free pass.

The ONLY way to end racism is to treat everyone the same. Period.

Nibroc420

No, you claimed that since I said that their childern would be taught racism Im lumping white people in one category. No I am telling you that racist teach racist things to their children. Point blank period. Marth6781

No, you're saying that WHITE racists teach racist things to their children. Stop backpedaling.

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

And when you can't get a job over someone who is less qualified than you simply because you are applying to a job that seemingly only hire white people (or like just someone of a more specific ethnicity, irsh, jewish, etc), then thats unfair too.

AA has its share of problems, and its not likely the solution to the problem. But that doesn't undermine what i said: You may as well complain about poor people being lucky because they have charities.

XaosII

An analogy with charity is deeply flawed and you should know that.

So is equating "non-white privilege" and affirmitive action/scholarships.

Your evidence that's it's rare?LJS9502_basic

Common sense. A company isn't going to hire an under qualified employee entirely for the sake of meeting AA demands.

But hey, you want some evidence fine: http://www.nber.org/papers/w5603.pdf

The analysis is based on a representative sample of over 3,200 employers in four major metropolitan areas in the U.S. Our results show some evidence of lower educational qualifications among blacks and Hispanics hired under Affirmative Action, but not among white women. Further, our results show little evidence of substantially weaker job performance among most groups of minority and female Affirmative Action hires. ARE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION HIRES LESS QUALIFIED

Caps + exclamation marks can make any of those sound angry. :P

Hexagon_777

Nope, angry german sounds much harder than those. I've tried :P

[QUOTE="XaosII"]

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

An analogy with charity is deeply flawed and you should know that.

Nibroc420

So is equating "non-white privilege" and affirmitive action/scholarships.

Don't worry, this should protect us:

Nibroc if you had to leave your laptop in a cafe to use the restroom and you asked someone to watch it, who would you pick between a white male in a t-shirt and a black male in a t-shirt?

Nibroc if you had to leave your laptop in a cafe to use the restroom and you asked someone to watch it, who would you pick between a white male in a suit and a black male in a t-shirt?GOLIABOMB

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]

Ironic.

You ignored my post completely and you claim somebody else has a serious problem with selective reading. Let me refresh your memory:

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="Marth6781"]Why do I have to represent two sides of the coin when you are arguing agisnt the side of the coin im defending? That's complete bias. Speaking the truth of how racism spreads doesn't make me racist. The discussion is completely on what I was talking about. You keep trying to bring more arguments into the original argument. Stick to what you speak my friend.N30F3N1X

Bullsh!t. I never argued against your point.

My first reply to you was

Why are you talking about it as if it's a one-way thing?Myself

Ignoring a blatant flaw in your argument, calling *me* biased for pointing it out, and then claiming that flaw is not part of the original argument...

I can totally see you're not biased nor racist *at all* ;)

Nibroc if you had to leave your laptop in a cafe to use the restroom and you asked someone to watch it, who would you pick between a white male in a t-shirt and a black male in a t-shirt?

GOLIABOMB

Your point?

And why did you edit "in a suit" out?

Nibroc if you had to leave your laptop in a cafe to use the restroom and you asked someone to watch it, who would you pick between a white male in a t-shirt and a black male in a t-shirt?

GOLIABOMB