The Throne (Jay-Z & Kanye West) Watch The Throne (poll)

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#1 MagicalMafiaMan
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How's everybody finding Kanye and Jay-Z's "Watch The Throne". It's been hyped to be one of the greatest albums of the year and was released just today on Itunes. I'll be waiting until the physical release in four days. Excruciating wait.

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#2 AL_GREEN
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listening now

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#3 zmbi_gmr
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Haven't listened to it yet, but it will probably not live up to the hype...

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#4 Swanogt19
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I will be buying it on the 12th
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#5 r4v1rsm
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Listening to it now, it's very soulful, some good tracks, some I need to listen to, I especially love New Day, I have it on repeat for some reason, also Murder to Excellence is quite amazing, but it needs more listens before I can state this is a classic.

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#6 joesh89
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Hyped by the masses as the greatest hip hop album ever.. means its probably average at best and will be forgotten about in a few months.

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#7 Swanogt19
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The production is really good. But I don't know if the rhymes are going to be as memorable as the production
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#8 Solid_Link22
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It's really good. I give it a 8.5/10

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#9 AtlanticRock
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I'm hunting down somewhere to listen to it... I have all Kanye's albums and will get this solely for him. I may be from Brooklyn, but I'm like the only one from here that doesn't like Jay-Z(I respect his lyrically prowess but I don't like his music).

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#10 stupid4
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I'm about halfway through, and it's okay. Nothing special.

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#11 lazerface216
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from what i've heard so far, it's great. i need some more time with it though...

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#12 Snakemaster9
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Only getting it cause of Kanye but I heard its pretty good but I can't judge atm

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#13 Ultrabeatdown55
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The lyrics are fantastic, but they could be a bit better. Jay edges Kanye here, but Kanye really comes through with the production. This album has the greatest production out of any album I have ever heard.

10/10

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#14 Chris_Williams
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listening to it right now, its pretty legit

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#15 Bucked20
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Pretty good so far,I might buy it
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#16 DanteSuikoden
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It's ok, I would have enjoyed it more if the hype didn't kill it for me.

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#17 lowkey254
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Nothing special IMO, I give it a 7. If it can't match up to Reasonable Doubt or Blueprint then these illuminati boys can kick Rocs.

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#18 GreySeal9
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It's pretty good overall (though definitely uneven), but it doesn't meet the standard of Kanye's work in general and Jay-Z's best work. It just doesn't have the same coherence.

The production is very interesting and there's alot of great musical moments (the Lost in the World voice box seems to be in the mix alot), but it just doesn't come together as well as it should have. The actual rapping ranges from being really on point to being really lazy and disjointed.

The best track is probably Made in America, which is a gorgeous song. The worst track is **** In Paris.

My favorite 3 tracks:

Made in America

Lift Off

Murder to Excellence

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The lyrics are fantastic, but they could be a bit better. Jay edges Kanye here, but Kanye really comes through with the production. This album has the greatest production out of any album I have ever heard.

10/10

Ultrabeatdown55

IMO, My Beautiful Twisted Dark Fantasy is alot better in that regard.

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#20 bobcheeseball
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I like it thus far, but I don't like all the beat changes. It'll probably grow on me. And Jay-Z is killing Kanye thus far also.
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#21 GreySeal9
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I like it thus far, but I don't like all the beat changes. It'll probably grow on me. And Jay-Z is killing Kanye thus far also.bobcheeseball

Jay Z's rapping is a hell of a lot more polished on this record, but at the same time, but Kanye is responsible for the music, so it's a wash.

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#22 Ultrabeatdown55
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[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]

The lyrics are fantastic, but they could be a bit better. Jay edges Kanye here, but Kanye really comes through with the production. This album has the greatest production out of any album I have ever heard.

10/10

GreySeal9

IMO, My Beautiful Twisted Dark Fantasy is alot better in that regard.

Not to me, this beats it. Though it doesn't blow away Kanye's last effort. And I disagree with you about N***** in Paris. I think it is one of the best songs on the album.
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#23 GodofBigMacs
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It's pretty good overall (though definitely uneven), but it doesn't meet the standard of Kanye's work in general and Jay-Z's best work. It just doesn't have the same coherence.

The production is very interesting and there's alot of great musical moments (the Lost in the World voice box seems to be in the mix alot), but it just doesn't come together as well as it should have. The actual rapping ranges from being really on point to being really lazy and disjointed.

The best track is probably Made in America, which is a gorgeous song. The worst track is **** In Paris.

My favorite 3 tracks:

Made in America

Lift Off

Murder to Excellence

GreySeal9
Hmm really? I thought Lift Off was easily the worst track on the album... but that's my opinion.
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#24 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

It's pretty good overall (though definitely uneven), but it doesn't meet the standard of Kanye's work in general and Jay-Z's best work. It just doesn't have the same coherence.

The production is very interesting and there's alot of great musical moments (the Lost in the World voice box seems to be in the mix alot), but it just doesn't come together as well as it should have. The actual rapping ranges from being really on point to being really lazy and disjointed.

The best track is probably Made in America, which is a gorgeous song. The worst track is **** In Paris.

My favorite 3 tracks:

Made in America

Lift Off

Murder to Excellence

GodofBigMacs

Hmm really? I thought Lift Off was easily the worst track on the album... but that's my opinion.

Lift Off was the poppiest most radio friendly track on the album and it's pretty lacking in the rapping department, but I loved the sort of epic feel good sound of the music and the chorus. I liked it in the same way that like All of the Lights on MTBDF.

I really have a hard time seeing how Lift Off could be worse than something like H.A.M or **** in Paris, which sounds like all that lazy crap that rappers churn out these days.

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#25 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]

The lyrics are fantastic, but they could be a bit better. Jay edges Kanye here, but Kanye really comes through with the production. This album has the greatest production out of any album I have ever heard.

10/10

Ultrabeatdown55

IMO, My Beautiful Twisted Dark Fantasy is alot better in that regard.

Not to me, this beats it. Though it doesn't blow away Kanye's last effort. And I disagree with you about N***** in Paris. I think it is one of the best songs on the album.

Well, different strokes. **** in Paris sounded lazy to me. Jay Z's rapping was on point in that song, but IMO, it's not much of a song.

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#26 GreySeal9
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To elaborate on my original post, these are the songs I liked alot:

Made in America

Lift Off

Murder to Excellence

That's My B****

New Day

Otis

Why I Love You

No Church in the Wild

These are the ones I liked, but I didn't think they were the best the album had to offer:

Gotta Have It

Welcome to the Jungle

Songs that were "okay":

Primetime (a bonus track)

The Joy (It seems like I really should have loved this one since I love soulful rap, but it just seemed like one of the weaker soulful Kanye productions)

Who Gon Stop Me (would have been good if not for the awful Holocaust part)

These are the songs I didn't like:

N**** in Paris

Illest MFer Alive

H.A.M

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#27 lazerface216
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[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]I like it thus far, but I don't like all the beat changes. It'll probably grow on me. And Jay-Z is killing Kanye thus far also.GreySeal9

Jay Z's rapping is a hell of a lot more polished on this record, but at the same time, but Kanye is responsible for the music, so it's a wash.

not entirely true. RZA does a track on this record, as does frank ocean, the neptunes and swizz beats (2 tracks actually).

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#28 soulless4now
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I haven't even heard any of the songs yet so I'll have to check it out sometime soon.

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#29 Ultrabeatdown55
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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]I like it thus far, but I don't like all the beat changes. It'll probably grow on me. And Jay-Z is killing Kanye thus far also.lazerface216

Jay Z's rapping is a hell of a lot more polished on this record, but at the same time, but Kanye is responsible for the music, so it's a wash.

not entirely true. RZA does a track on this record, as does frank ocean, the neptunes and swizz beats (2 tracks actually).

But Kanye does have his hand of every track. He is co-producer on all of them.
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#30 gamefan67
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I'm hunting down somewhere to listen to it... I have all Kanye's albums and will get this solely for him. I may be from Brooklyn, but I'm like the only one from here that doesn't like Jay-Z(I respect his lyrically prowess but I don't like his music).

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Glad you're not one of those blind haters that just say Jay sucks. Serious respect. But Im listening to the album now.
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#31 nickz_fpk
Member since 2010 • 1458 Posts

Lyrically the albums trash, in terms of production it's nothing special & tbh the only good song is n****s in paris, anyway this album just got deleted from my itunes because I can't see myself listening to any of it agian.

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#32 MethodManFTW
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Just listened to the entire album all the way thru.. As far as what number I would rate it? Who the hell knows, arbitrary ratings are stupid. Good album tho.
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#33 Poncho_Hachacha
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From what I've heard so far I'd give a 5/6 maybe. The songs that are on point are really on point like "New Day," "Murder to Excellence," andmaybe"Gotta Have It." But there's too many mediocre/badand downright bs songs mixed in there like "Ham," Lift Off," "Living So Italian," "Why I love You So," "Wo's Gonna Stop Me," and a few others. Plus the album seems to lack any real direction. Mediocre album. I don't even think I'd call it decent tbh.

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#34 gamefan67
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From what I hear of the album the production is definitely quality, but at the same time maybe a little too experimental/out there (definitely not for everyone's ears). Lyrically - Jay outshines Ye on this album but they both do rather well and get their points across on each track (except for H.A.M. Ye coulda did so much more). There are some real stand out songs on the albums and there are others that I may have to give more listens before they grow on me. Overall - 8/10 (for now)
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#35 Toriko42
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Album of the year. Nothing else comes close so far
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#36 TheShadowLord07
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Havent litento it yet. will try itout sometime

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#37 Solid_Tango
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The lyrics are fantastic, but they could be a bit better. Jay edges Kanye here, but Kanye really comes through with the production. This album has the greatest production out of any album I have ever heard.

10/10

Ultrabeatdown55
You must have not heard many albums then.
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#38 Ultrabeatdown55
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From what I've heard so far I'd give a 5/6 maybe. The songs that are on point are really on point like "New Day," "Murder to Excellence," andmaybe"Gotta Have It." But there's too many mediocre/badand downright bs songs mixed in there like "Ham," Lift Off," "Living So Italian," "Why I love You So," "Wo's Gonna Stop Me," and a few others. Plus the album seems to lack any real direction. Mediocre album. I don't even think I'd call it decent tbh.

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If you actually listened to it, you would know there is no track for Living So Italian. It exists, but it isn't on this album, nor leaked onto the internet so I don't know what you're saying.
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#39 Ultrabeatdown55
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[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]

The lyrics are fantastic, but they could be a bit better. Jay edges Kanye here, but Kanye really comes through with the production. This album has the greatest production out of any album I have ever heard.

10/10

Solid_Tango
You must have not heard many albums then.

Oh no, I have. Probably more than you have.
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#40 Swanogt19
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[QUOTE="Ultrabeatdown55"]

The lyrics are fantastic, but they could be a bit better. Jay edges Kanye here, but Kanye really comes through with the production. This album has the greatest production out of any album I have ever heard.

10/10

Solid_Tango
You must have not heard many albums then.

Raidohead fans. :lol:
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#41 DaJuicyMan
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I'm gonna hear it on thursday.

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#42 MrBubbles59
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I can't wait to listen to it.

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#43 ZumaJones07
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Ooh I'm glad someone reminded me! :) I am hoping it's at least a 72/85. EDIT: Finished it. Very nice, it met my expectations. 85/100
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#44 ethanradd
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Only listened to one song, was alright ...will listen to the rest later, got it for Kanye, not a huge fan of Jay Z though, soo... anyways I will be pleasantly surprised if it can top 'my beautiful dark twisted fantasy' ...but I doubt it, will have to wait and see (hear?)

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#45 battlefront23
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Definitely like Kanye more as an artist than Jay-Z. But, if they both sound like their older selves, I will greatly enjoy this album.

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#46 bluetadomonk
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i don't like jay-z's voice that much i figured that out when i listened to this album, i wish it was kanye only, not saying jay z is bad or anything though
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#47 lhughey
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Excellent production, interesting music. J does a better job than his last few albums.
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#48 imaps3fanboy
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Just finished.

Didn't like it, I'll give it a 4

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#49 Ultrabeatdown55
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Just finished.

Didn't like it, I'll give it a 4

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May I inquire to what you did not like about it?
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#50 imaps3fanboy
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]

Just finished.

Didn't like it, I'll give it a 4

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May I inquire to what you did not like about it?

I know next to nothing about the genre, and I'm not really into it. So it's a rating of ignorance I suppose :D just thought I'd give something different a spin