The death penalty, do you support it?

As someone who is somewhat strongly liberal I am for the death penalty as it is (or how it is currently protrayed as) implimented.

No, I don't support it. 

Only if I choose who gets executed.

Yes. Some people don't deserve life. I also believe in cutting down the time it takes to get rid of those who deserve it.

Mind you, this is for rare occasions.

No.

Only in extreme circumstances.

If its proved beyond any sort of doubt that the person did it, then I support it. NEWMAHAY

Presumably anybody convicted has had their guilt proved beyond doubt. So how is that any different from the system we have in place now?

Only in extreme circumstances.

sonicare

Between killing these people and letting them have the easy way out.. and the possiblity of you convicting the wrong person.. The death penalty isn't worh it.. and it costs less to keep them in jail than to exectute them.. Or am I wrong?.. I think I'm right.

I don't support it as long as there are innocent people sitting on death row. And besides. Life in prison is much worse. Somebody pointed out earlier that some people enjoy prison. But do they really enjoy it in segregated isolation? Hell. In Cali, the average wait time is 20 years. Guilty or innocent, death will come as a blessing after spending that long in an isolated cage.Murderstyle75

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]I don't support it as long as there are innocent people sitting on death row. And besides. Life in prison is much worse. Somebody pointed out earlier that some people enjoy prison. But do they really enjoy it in segregated isolation? Hell. In Cali, the average wait time is 20 years. Guilty or innocent, death will come as a blessing after spending that long in an isolated cage.The_Lipscomb

How do you know they sit in isolation? What are privileges felons have? A few US states even allow conjugal visits.

I'm kinda meh on it.

[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]I don't support it as long as there are innocent people sitting on death row. And besides. Life in prison is much worse. Somebody pointed out earlier that some people enjoy prison. But do they really enjoy it in segregated isolation? Hell. In Cali, the average wait time is 20 years. Guilty or innocent, death will come as a blessing after spending that long in an isolated cage.jun_aka_pekto

How do you know they sit in isolation? What are privileges felons have? A few US states even allow conjugal visits.

Yes. i am very supportive of it. 

Yes. i am very supportive of it. 

dissonantblack

A life for a life seems fair. There needs to be greater penalties for petty theft etc as well, I like how in some countries, if you are caught theiving you get a hand chopped off. Real consequences need to be in effect.

A life for a life seems fair. There needs to be greater penalties for petty theft etc as well, I like how in some countries, if you are caught theiving you get a hand chopped off. Real consequences need to be in effect.

sailor232

No. I do not support the killing of people. Especially considering our "justice system" and its flaws. And never mind tampering with witnesses, how terrible "eyewitness" testimony generally is, and pressuring witnesses to point a specific person out in a line up, etc...

[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]I don't support it as long as there are innocent people sitting on death row. And besides. Life in prison is much worse. Somebody pointed out earlier that some people enjoy prison. But do they really enjoy it in segregated isolation? Hell. In Cali, the average wait time is 20 years. Guilty or innocent, death will come as a blessing after spending that long in an isolated cage.jun_aka_pekto

How do you know they sit in isolation? What are privileges felons have? A few US states even allow conjugal visits.

Privileges in prison must be earned. You don't get them just because you're in prison. Having a TV in your cell, for instance, is a privilege rewarded for good behavior. You have to earn it (and often the prisoner must put a deposit on it with their own money).

A life for a life seems fair. There needs to be greater penalties for petty theft etc as well, I like how in some countries, if you are caught theiving you get a hand chopped off. Real consequences need to be in effect.

sailor232

That's a brilliant f*cking idea. Disable the person so that they're sure to never be able to earn an honest living for themselves.

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[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"] Pretty much.. I would rather die, than sit in an isolated cell for 50 plus years.. Talk about torture..worlock77

How do you know they sit in isolation? What are privileges felons have? A few US states even allow conjugal visits.

Privileges in prison must be earned. You don't get them just because you're in prison. Having a TV in your cell, for instance, is a privilege rewarded for good behavior. You have to earn it (and often the prisoner must put a deposit on it with their own money).

[QUOTE="sailor232"]

A life for a life seems fair. There needs to be greater penalties for petty theft etc as well, I like how in some countries, if you are caught theiving you get a hand chopped off. Real consequences need to be in effect.

worlock77

That's a brilliant f*cking idea. Disable the person so that they're sure to never be able to earn an honest living for themselves.

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[QUOTE="sailor232"]

A life for a life seems fair. There needs to be greater penalties for petty theft etc as well, I like how in some countries, if you are caught theiving you get a hand chopped off. Real consequences need to be in effect.

The_Lipscomb

That's a brilliant f*cking idea. Disable the person so that they're sure to never be able to earn an honest living for themselves.

You think people can't rape without a penis?

Think of Adam Lanza, the Newtown shooter. He shot and killed 20 children. If he had not committed suicide, he would most likely have gotten the death penalty. Would you really want somebody like this to be kept alive? Anyone with a brain would say no.

Primordialous

[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

That's a brilliant f*cking idea. Disable the person so that they're sure to never be able to earn an honest living for themselves.

worlock77

You think people can't rape without a penis?

[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

That's a brilliant f*cking idea. Disable the person so that they're sure to never be able to earn an honest living for themselves.

worlock77

You think people can't rape without a penis?

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[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"] You rape somebody... your dick gets cut off.. Well, I have to agreee.. that probably would lower rape .. who knows.. lol.sonicare

You think people can't rape without a penis?

Good logic......if you disregard all the people who use various objects (bottles, pipes, etc) in the rapes they commit, and if you disregard all the female rapists out there.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

You think people can't rape without a penis?

worlock77

Good logic......if you disregard all the people who use various objects (bottles, pipes, etc) in the rapes they commit, and if you disregard all the female rapists out there.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"] I do have to admit, Would make things a little tougher. No little general saluting and all that.sonicare

Good logic......if you disregard all the people who use various objects (bottles, pipes, etc) in the rapes they commit, and if you disregard all the female rapists out there.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Good logic......if you disregard all the people who use various objects (bottles, pipes, etc) in the rapes they commit, and if you disregard all the female rapists out there.

The_Lipscomb

[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"][QUOTE="sonicare"] True, but I think most rapes in this country are likely committed using the johnson.sonicare

:lol:

You know what's crazy.. I have never seen that movie before.. Along with the Lion King.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Good logic......if you disregard all the people who use various objects (bottles, pipes, etc) in the rapes they commit, and if you disregard all the female rapists out there.

The_Lipscomb

Doubtful. Rape is about power, not sex.

[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"][QUOTE="sonicare"] True, but I think most rapes in this country are likely committed using the johnson.worlock77

Doubtful. Rape is about power, not sex.

Sure, why not?

[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"][QUOTE="sonicare"] True, but I think most rapes in this country are likely committed using the johnson.worlock77

Doubtful. Rape is about power, not sex.

Yeah, depends on the situation, only internet kids don't support it. They get all their morals from the liberal circle jerk on the internet.

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[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"] If anything it would lower.. Nobody here is saying it's going to stop all rape.. but being dickless is sure to make some sort of impact.Murderstyle75

Doubtful. Rape is about power, not sex.

It is about power and control. Sex is easy. Anyone can get sex if they really want it. Case in point: since you brought it up: roofies. What do roofies do? Render the victim powerless right? Completely at the control of the person who drugged them.

Yeah, depends on the situation, only internet kids don't support it. They get all their morals from the liberal circle jerk on the internet.

GD1551

Yeah, just like all those Christian priests and ministers who oppose the death penalty huh?

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Yeah, depends on the situation, only internet kids don't support it. They get all their morals from the liberal circle jerk on the internet.

worlock77

Yeah, just like all those Christian priests and ministers who oppose the death penalty huh?

Doesn't matter, they are a minority. The rest are a bunch of kids.

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Doubtful. Rape is about power, not sex.

worlock77

It is about power and control. Sex is easy. Anyone can get sex if they really want it. Case in point: since you brought it up: roofies. What do roofies do? Render the victim powerless right? Completely at the control of the person who drugged them.

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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Not always. Guys don't give girls roofies at frat parties for power. The whole power thing was created by feminists since they think male-female interaction is soley about power and control. Because of this, rape must also be about power and control. Rape as power provides a political tool for feminists. Dr Trayce Hansen says it best. "Finally, and most importantly, feminists strategically concluded that if rape was perceived as motivated only by sex, then it would be of limited political value, but if instead rape was seen as motivated by male desire to dominate and control women, then it could be used as a powerful political tool for radical cultural change. Specifically, feminists decided that if they could convince society that male domination was the rapists true motivation, then the end of rape would necessarily require an end to the traditional patriarchal culture said to support that domination. Rape would become the symbolic sword that radical feminists hoped would help them slay what they perceived as the evil dragon of traditional culturetheir ultimate sociopolitical objective."Murderstyle75

It is about power and control. Sex is easy. Anyone can get sex if they really want it. Case in point: since you brought it up: roofies. What do roofies do? Render the victim powerless right? Completely at the control of the person who drugged them.

And how is sedating someone, thus removing any ability they have to resist, to rape them not taking them by force? Actually prostitutes were one of the things I had in mind when I said that anyone can get sex if they really want to. Simply put, if you want to get laid badly enough you can without raping someone.

and if rape werent about sex or attraction, wed see heterosexual men in non war-torn provinces trying to rape other men. Murderstyle75

That actually happens quite a lot.

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[QUOTE="The_Lipscomb"] If anything it would lower.. Nobody here is saying it's going to stop all rape.. but being dickless is sure to make some sort of impact.Murderstyle75

Doubtful. Rape is about power, not sex.

That doctor also says that homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles and that children of same sex parents face developmental problems and are most likely to become gay. And at one point when Hansen appeared as a witness in a custody trial dealing with a former lesbian and her partner, her testimony was dismissed as unqualified.