Suicide ??? Really ?

Wanted to see what you guys think.

I'm constantly seeing posts here with people contemplating suicide, or just "fading away" because of stupid reasons like breaking up, parents giving them a hard time etc.

I also noticed it's mostly the younger generation.

I have a work friend (she is 20 years old), she tried to commit suicide (overdose on sleeping pills) a few months back because she broke up with her BF.  She also sometimes sends me text messages at 11pm saying she wishes she had the strength to do it cause life is just too hard and it's easier just to be dead.

/START_of_Rant

Personally I think "WTF is wrong with all these people?"  Honestly, this girl I know says life is too hard?   Doesn't she realize there are people struggling to have something to eat on the table each night and she is complaining about life when she has a stable job, friends, lives in a First World Country and can go out shopping and partying? 

Do people even have a clue what suicide is and what ur giving up?  There are millions of people who would give anything to her a life like hers, and this idiot just wants to throw it away and hurt everyone in the process?

Am I being too harsh?  Is it just me or do these people just seem ridiculous? 

Opinions?  How should I proceed?

You do realize most people that try to commit suicide do it for attention right? They want attention lavished on them constantly. Thats why your friend texts you saying she wish she had the courage to do so.

Its especially common in younger people, they dont actually want to die, hence why so few of them do. The ones that follow through are usually either clinically insane or they simply take it to far.

The game of life is hard to play. You're gonna lose it anyway.

The game of life is hard to play. You're gonna lose it anyway.

worlock77

I've noticed that the people who are serious about suicide rarely talk about it except to maybe their closest confidants (if then), and those that talk about it are usually just attention whores who don't have the balls to make a cut that deep.

Wanted to see what you guys think.

I'm constantly seeing posts here with people contemplating suicide, or just "fading away" because of stupid reasons like breaking up, parents giving them a hard time etc.

I also noticed it's mostly the younger generation.

I have a work friend (she is 20 years old), she tried to commit suicide (overdose on sleeping pills) a few months back because she broke up with her BF.  She also sometimes sends me text messages at 11pm saying she wishes she had the strength to do it cause life is just too hard and it's easier just to be dead.

/START_of_Rant

Personally I think "WTF is wrong with all these people?"  Honestly, this girl I know says life is too hard?   Doesn't she realize there are people struggling to have something to eat on the table each night and she is complaining about life when she has a stable job, friends, lives in a First World Country and can go out shopping and partying? 

Do people even have a clue what suicide is and what ur giving up?  There are millions of people who would give anything to her a life like hers, and this idiot just wants to throw it away and hurt everyone in the process?

Am I being too harsh?  Is it just me or do these people just seem ridiculous? 

Opinions?  How should I proceed?

FelipeInside

You do realize most people that try to commit suicide do it for attention right? They want attention lavished on them constantly. Thats why your friend texts you saying she wish she had the courage to do so.

Its especially common in younger people, they dont actually want to die, hence why so few of them do. The ones that follow through are usually either clinically insane or they simply take it to far.

Gargus

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

Wanted to see what you guys think.

I'm constantly seeing posts here with people contemplating suicide, or just "fading away" because of stupid reasons like breaking up, parents giving them a hard time etc.

I also noticed it's mostly the younger generation.

I have a work friend (she is 20 years old), she tried to commit suicide (overdose on sleeping pills) a few months back because she broke up with her BF.  She also sometimes sends me text messages at 11pm saying she wishes she had the strength to do it cause life is just too hard and it's easier just to be dead.

/START_of_Rant

Personally I think "WTF is wrong with all these people?"  Honestly, this girl I know says life is too hard?   Doesn't she realize there are people struggling to have something to eat on the table each night and she is complaining about life when she has a stable job, friends, lives in a First World Country and can go out shopping and partying? 

Do people even have a clue what suicide is and what ur giving up?  There are millions of people who would give anything to her a life like hers, and this idiot just wants to throw it away and hurt everyone in the process?

Am I being too harsh?  Is it just me or do these people just seem ridiculous? 

Opinions?  How should I proceed?

MrGeezer

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

Wanted to see what you guys think.

I'm constantly seeing posts here with people contemplating suicide, or just "fading away" because of stupid reasons like breaking up, parents giving them a hard time etc.

I also noticed it's mostly the younger generation.

I have a work friend (she is 20 years old), she tried to commit suicide (overdose on sleeping pills) a few months back because she broke up with her BF.  She also sometimes sends me text messages at 11pm saying she wishes she had the strength to do it cause life is just too hard and it's easier just to be dead.

/START_of_Rant

Personally I think "WTF is wrong with all these people?"  Honestly, this girl I know says life is too hard?   Doesn't she realize there are people struggling to have something to eat on the table each night and she is complaining about life when she has a stable job, friends, lives in a First World Country and can go out shopping and partying? 

Do people even have a clue what suicide is and what ur giving up?  There are millions of people who would give anything to her a life like hers, and this idiot just wants to throw it away and hurt everyone in the process?

Am I being too harsh?  Is it just me or do these people just seem ridiculous? 

Opinions?  How should I proceed?

FelipeInside

Does the fact that others in this world have it worse invalidate her feelings about her own life?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

The game of life is hard to play. You're gonna lose it anyway.

Fightingfan

*Note to self: stop making references that most users here are decades too young to get.*

I kind of agree with you, but there are also a lot of people who do legitimately have a very hard life, and suicide seems like the only answer to them. For example kids who get bullied really bad. Before any of go like OMFG YOU'RE AN IDIOT BLA BLA BLA, bullying can get really bad. I knew a kid once, and he was gay. They constantly bullied him and even beat him up very bad. His parents didn't care. He jumped in front of a train about 2 years ago.

Then again I also knew a girl who climbed on top of the school,claiming she was gonna jump. Eventually it turned out she did it for attention. I guess you need to judge evey case differently.

I'd say most people who say they are contemplating suicide actually just want attention. Very few are truly suicidal.

^^ I have no idea what goes thru her brain worlock77, but she says life is constantly beating her down blah blah blah. Like c'mon, life is like that but you just get back up and keep fighting, not give up. I think her religion also is affecting her a lot. She is part of Jehovah's Witnesses and she really takes it seriously. She doesn't celebrate birthdays for example.FelipeInside

What goes through her brain wasn't the question. I'm asking you what you think.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]^^ I have no idea what goes thru her brain worlock77, but she says life is constantly beating her down blah blah blah. Like c'mon, life is like that but you just get back up and keep fighting, not give up. I think her religion also is affecting her a lot. She is part of Jehovah's Witnesses and she really takes it seriously. She doesn't celebrate birthdays for example.worlock77

What goes through her brain wasn't the question. I'm asking you what you think.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]^^ I have no idea what goes thru her brain worlock77, but she says life is constantly beating her down blah blah blah. Like c'mon, life is like that but you just get back up and keep fighting, not give up. I think her religion also is affecting her a lot. She is part of Jehovah's Witnesses and she really takes it seriously. She doesn't celebrate birthdays for example.FelipeInside

What goes through her brain wasn't the question. I'm asking you what you think.

Again, not the question. Do you (note: you, not her) think that the fact that others in the world have it worse invalidates her feelings about her own life?

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

The game of life is hard to play. You're gonna lose it anyway.

worlock77

*Note to self: stop making references that most users here are decades too young to get.*

I think a valid reason for suicide is ostricism/ forced social isolation. It's very, very depressing and maddening.

I think a valid reason for suicide is ostricism/ forced social isolation. It's very, very depressing and maddening.

BluRayHiDef

I think a valid reason for suicide is ostricism/ forced social isolation. It's very, very depressing and maddening.

BluRayHiDef

Going by everything you've posted the only person forcing social isolation on you is yourself.

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

The game of life is hard to play. You're gonna lose it anyway.

worlock77

*Note to self: stop making references that most users here are decades too young to get.*

Again, not the question. Do you (note: you, not her) think that the fact that others in the world have it worse invalidates her feelings about her own life?

worlock77

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="Fightingfan"] Charlie sheen is racking a high score with all the cocaine and no heart attacksFightingfan

*Note to self: stop making references that most users here are decades too young to get.*

Which in no way invalidates what I posted.

Wanted to see what you guys think.

I'm constantly seeing posts here with people contemplating suicide, or just "fading away" because of stupid reasons like breaking up, parents giving them a hard time etc.

I also noticed it's mostly the younger generation.

I have a work friend (she is 20 years old), she tried to commit suicide (overdose on sleeping pills) a few months back because she broke up with her BF.  She also sometimes sends me text messages at 11pm saying she wishes she had the strength to do it cause life is just too hard and it's easier just to be dead.

/START_of_Rant

Personally I think "WTF is wrong with all these people?"  Honestly, this girl I know says life is too hard?   Doesn't she realize there are people struggling to have something to eat on the table each night and she is complaining about life when she has a stable job, friends, lives in a First World Country and can go out shopping and partying? 

Do people even have a clue what suicide is and what ur giving up?  There are millions of people who would give anything to her a life like hers, and this idiot just wants to throw it away and hurt everyone in the process?

Am I being too harsh?  Is it just me or do these people just seem ridiculous? 

Opinions?  How should I proceed?

FelipeInside

right, suicidal people like that should just be happy, because the world is full of people with horrible lives of misery. 

The idea of giving motivational happy pills to the chronically depressed has always been interesting to me.

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

I think a valid reason for suicide is ostricism/ forced social isolation. It's very, very depressing and maddening.

worlock77

Going by everything you've posted the only person forcing social isolation on you is yourself.

• Wait at bus stop for bus. Bus comes by, driver looks at me and keeps going. Run to the next stop to catch it, and driver mean-mugs me when I board. Heck, the only reason he stopped at the next stop is because other people were waiting. Happens often.
• Wait on line to enter bus and watch as the bus driver looks at and greets everyone who boards before me. I board and the driver looks away and pretends to look out of the window. Happens on a daily basis.
• Make accidental eye contact with people while walking down the street, and get mean mugged.
• New guy comes to work and introduces himself to everyone but me. Executes body language that implies discomfort when I'm around.
• Walk toward a group of people, and they scatter. 

Yea, this is all my fault. :roll:

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

I think a valid reason for suicide is ostricism/ forced social isolation. It's very, very depressing and maddening.

BluRayHiDef

Going by everything you've posted the only person forcing social isolation on you is yourself.

• Wait at bus stop for bus. Bus comes by, driver looks at me and keeps going. Run to the next stop to catch it, and driver mean-mugs me when I board. Heck, the only reason he stopped at the next stop is because other people were waiting. Happens often.
• Wait on line to enter bus and watch as the bus driver looks at and greets everyone who boards before me. I board and the driver looks away and pretends to look out of the window. Happens on a daily basis.
• Make accidental eye contact with people while walking down the street, and get mean mugged.
• New guy comes to work and introduces himself to everyone but me. Executes body language that implies discomfort when I'm around.
• Walk toward a group of people, and they scatter. 

Yea, this is all my fault. :roll:

Judging from what you post I'd say it likely is. Have you, for instance, ever stopped to consider your own body language? Like that other thread of yours where you say you have that "Bert stare". You don't think that creeps people the f*ck out? Body language says far more than words do.

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

What goes through her brain wasn't the question. I'm asking you what you think.

worlock77

Again, not the question. Do you (note: you, not her) think that the fact that others in the world have it worse invalidates her feelings about her own life?

I tried committing suicide jumping off a 3rd storied building, but failed.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

I think a valid reason for suicide is ostricism/ forced social isolation. It's very, very depressing and maddening.

BluRayHiDef

Going by everything you've posted the only person forcing social isolation on you is yourself.

• Wait at bus stop for bus. Bus comes by, driver looks at me and keeps going. Run to the next stop to catch it, and driver mean-mugs me when I board. Heck, the only reason he stopped at the next stop is because other people were waiting. Happens often.
• Wait on line to enter bus and watch as the bus driver looks at and greets everyone who boards before me. I board and the driver looks away and pretends to look out of the window. Happens on a daily basis.
• Make accidental eye contact with people while walking down the street, and get mean mugged.
• New guy comes to work and introduces himself to everyone but me. Executes body language that implies discomfort when I'm around.
• Walk toward a group of people, and they scatter. 

Yea, this is all my fault. :roll:

Life is a b*tch, so why can't I f*ck it?

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Going by everything you've posted the only person forcing social isolation on you is yourself.

worlock77

• Wait at bus stop for bus. Bus comes by, driver looks at me and keeps going. Run to the next stop to catch it, and driver mean-mugs me when I board. Heck, the only reason he stopped at the next stop is because other people were waiting. Happens often.
• Wait on line to enter bus and watch as the bus driver looks at and greets everyone who boards before me. I board and the driver looks away and pretends to look out of the window. Happens on a daily basis.
• Make accidental eye contact with people while walking down the street, and get mean mugged.
• New guy comes to work and introduces himself to everyone but me. Executes body language that implies discomfort when I'm around.
• Walk toward a group of people, and they scatter. 

Yea, this is all my fault. :roll:

Judging from what you post I'd say it likely is. Have you, for instance, ever stopped to consider your own body language? Like that other thread of yours where you say you have that "Bert stare". You don't think that creeps people the f*ck out? Body language says far more than words do.

I don't always use the Bert stare, and my body language is normal. How can someone's body language be so intimidating that a bus driver refuses to stop for them...even though that bus driver sees that person everyday? Ridiculous.

It sounds like it is. It's the perception of yourself as being some sort of victim that's making you interpret these situations as being somehow your fault. chrisrooR

Agreed. People don't realize how much of what's in their head leaks out to body posture and facial expression. Chin up, face the world like you mean it and you'll be surprised how differently people react than if you're slinking around staring at the ground with a hunch in your back the whole time.

>tfw you're talking your gf out of it

Not fun.

I had suicidal thoughts too. It seems so easy. A perfect solution.

About two years ago two aqcuintances committed it - one had cancer and cut his throat because the pain was unbearable (the medics later said he had 48 hours max to live anyway) and the other one hanged himself after an argument with his parents. I was surprised by the second one's death as he was a very fun person to be around - an airhead punker basically.

>tfw you're talking your gf out of it

Not fun.

I had suicidal thoughts too. It seems so easy. A perfect solution.

About two years ago two aqcuintances committed it - one had cancer and cut his throat because the pain was unbearable (the medics later said he had 48 hours max to live anyway) and the other one hanged himself after an argument with his parents. I was surprised by the second one's death as he was a very fun person to be around - an airhead punker basically.

Baranga

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Oh sorry, I understood ur question wrong. She tells me that she knows other people have it much worse, but personally I don't really think she KNOWS if you know what I mean. She has never left Australia, never really had to live in a 3rd World Country (like I did), never really came out of her religion or church, never really experienced what the bad side of the world is yet.FelipeInside

Again, not the question. Do you (note: you, not her) think that the fact that others in the world have it worse invalidates her feelings about her own life?

So are these - 

"Personally I think "WTF is wrong with all these people?"  Honestly, this girl I know says life is too hard?   Doesn't she realize there are people struggling to have something to eat on the table each night and she is complaining about life when she has a stable job, friends, lives in a First World Country and can go out shopping and partying? 

Do people even have a clue what suicide is and what ur giving up?  There are millions of people who would give anything to her a life like hers, and this idiot just wants to throw it away and hurt everyone in the process?"

- your honest thoughts? Frankly, it sounds like you're saying two different things. This quote from your first post basically reads like "shut up, be happy, your life is good", which is invalidating her own feelings about her life.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

• Wait at bus stop for bus. Bus comes by, driver looks at me and keeps going. Run to the next stop to catch it, and driver mean-mugs me when I board. Heck, the only reason he stopped at the next stop is because other people were waiting. Happens often.
• Wait on line to enter bus and watch as the bus driver looks at and greets everyone who boards before me. I board and the driver looks away and pretends to look out of the window. Happens on a daily basis.
• Make accidental eye contact with people while walking down the street, and get mean mugged.
• New guy comes to work and introduces himself to everyone but me. Executes body language that implies discomfort when I'm around.
• Walk toward a group of people, and they scatter. 

 

Yea, this is all my fault. :roll:

BluRayHiDef

Judging from what you post I'd say it likely is. Have you, for instance, ever stopped to consider your own body language? Like that other thread of yours where you say you have that "Bert stare". You don't think that creeps people the f*ck out? Body language says far more than words do.

I don't always use the Bert stare, and my body language is normal. How can someone's body language be so intimidating that a bus driver refuses to stop for them...even though that bus driver sees that person everyday? Ridiculous.

Why do I get the feeling that we're not getting the full story with your bus stop example?

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Again, not the question. Do you (note: you, not her) think that the fact that others in the world have it worse invalidates her feelings about her own life?

worlock77

So are these - 

"Personally I think "WTF is wrong with all these people?"  Honestly, this girl I know says life is too hard?   Doesn't she realize there are people struggling to have something to eat on the table each night and she is complaining about life when she has a stable job, friends, lives in a First World Country and can go out shopping and partying? 

Do people even have a clue what suicide is and what ur giving up?  There are millions of people who would give anything to her a life like hers, and this idiot just wants to throw it away and hurt everyone in the process?"

- your honest thoughts? Frankly, it sounds like you're saying two different things. This quote from your first post basically reads like "shut up, be happy, your life is good", which is invalidating her own feelings about her life.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

So are these - 

"Personally I think "WTF is wrong with all these people?"  Honestly, this girl I know says life is too hard?   Doesn't she realize there are people struggling to have something to eat on the table each night and she is complaining about life when she has a stable job, friends, lives in a First World Country and can go out shopping and partying? 

Do people even have a clue what suicide is and what ur giving up?  There are millions of people who would give anything to her a life like hers, and this idiot just wants to throw it away and hurt everyone in the process?"

- your honest thoughts? Frankly, it sounds like you're saying two different things. This quote from your first post basically reads like "shut up, be happy, your life is good", which is invalidating her own feelings about her life.

Leejjohno

Was she depressed?