Suicide ??? Really ?

Suicide is a coward's way out; except for a person who's going through a great amount of pain (health wise). Ackad

sucide is an easy option imo.

It's hard to understand the mindset of someone like that. It doesn't matter that some people have it harder. Happiness is relative so a person who feels that bad is not gonna start appreciating their life just because there are others who have it worse. People who contemplate suicide feel worthless and don't feel like they owe it to anyone to keep on living.

I know it's probably difficult to deal with someone like that but you shouldn't judge people who want to kill themselves just because you would never think about it. There sure are a lot of attention seekers but we shouldn't ignore the issue. Apparently someone offs themselves every 30 seconds so it's a serious problem even if it annoys you.

It's hard to understand the mindset of someone like that. It doesn't matter that some people have it harder. Happiness is relative so a person who feels that bad is not gonna start appreciating their life just because there are others who have it worse. People who contemplate suicide feel worthless and don't feel like they owe it to anyone to keep on living.

I know it's probably difficult to deal with someone like that but you shouldn't judge people who want to kill themselves just because you would never think about it. There sure are a lot of attention seekers but we shouldn't ignore the issue. Apparently someone offs themselves every 30 seconds so it's a serious problem even if it annoys you.

tryagainlater

I guess what annoys me more than their attitude is the waste. There are people out there who would love to have the life of this girl, yet she wants to throw it away for minor problems.FelipeInside

In that case, you're never allowed to feel sad or stressed ever again.

Her happiness is relative, she doesn't know how kids in Africa feel about everything, she's never felt what they've felt, so she doesn't know how to handle this time in her life, which is totally understandable.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I guess what annoys me more than their attitude is the waste. There are people out there who would love to have the life of this girl, yet she wants to throw it away for minor problems.applesxc47

In that case, you're never allowed to feel sad or stressed ever again.

Her happiness is relative, she doesn't know how kids in Africa feel about everything, she's never felt what they've felt, so she doesn't know how to handle this time in her life, which is totally understandable.

I understand that, but suicide is the easy way out for her. I guess I have to accept that she is weaker than I am. Btw, I could not even imagine to feel how kids in Africa feel, but I can see what I have and compare. Maybe she is missing that as well.FelipeInside

Maybe she can compare, but she doesn't care right now because this is the worst thing to happen to her. If she can't handle something, who are you to tell her she's wrong?

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I understand that, but suicide is the easy way out for her. I guess I have to accept that she is weaker than I am. Btw, I could not even imagine to feel how kids in Africa feel, but I can see what I have and compare. Maybe she is missing that as well.applesxc47

Maybe she can compare, but she doesn't care right now because this is the worst thing to happen to her. If she can't handle something, who are you to tell her she's wrong?

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]I understand that, but suicide is the easy way out for her. I guess I have to accept that she is weaker than I am. Btw, I could not even imagine to feel how kids in Africa feel, but I can see what I have and compare. Maybe she is missing that as well.FelipeInside

Maybe she can compare, but she doesn't care right now because this is the worst thing to happen to her. If she can't handle something, who are you to tell her she's wrong?

You should understand that her feelings are different to yours.

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Maybe she can compare, but she doesn't care right now because this is the worst thing to happen to her. If she can't handle something, who are you to tell her she's wrong?

applesxc47

You should understand that her feelings are different to yours.

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] So I should tell her to go ahead and kill herself cause she can't handle it?FelipeInside

You should understand that her feelings are different to yours.

She doesn't really want to kill herself, I don't think. As someone said before, suicidal people tend to keep generally quiet about it. This is probably one of those 'reaching out' things anyway.

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You should understand that her feelings are different to yours.

applesxc47

She doesn't really want to kill herself, I don't think. As someone said before, suicidal people tend to keep generally quiet about it. This is probably one of those 'reaching out' things anyway.

I understand that, but suicide is the easy way out for her. I guess I have to accept that she is weaker than I am.FelipeInside

Why someone kills themselves is irrelevent really, in the end suicide is simply a sad situation all around.  As others have said, it's all relative.  Perhaps she has other things going on and this has just put her over the edge?  I do agree that many do it as a cry for help and to gain attention, and I myself view suicide "attempts" as not entirely genuine death wishes (if you really want to die, there are ways to remove all doubt), but still.

Nobody really has any foundation to hold anyone who commits suicide to any standard, because strength, hardships, and peoples' ability to deal with everything in life varies wildly from one to another.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I understand that, but suicide is the easy way out for her. I guess I have to accept that she is weaker than I am.MirkoS77

Why someone kills themselves is irrelevent really, in the end suicide is simply a sad situation all around.  As others have said, it's all relative.  Perhaps she has other things going on and this has just put her over the edge?  I do agree that many do it as a cry for help and to gain attention, and I myself view suicide "attempts" as not entirely genuine death wishes (if you really want to die, there are ways to remove all doubt), but still.

Nobody really has any foundation to hold anyone who commits suicide to any standard, because strength, hardships, and peoples' ability to deal with everything in life varies wildly from one to another.

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I understand that, but suicide is the easy way out for her. I guess I have to accept that she is weaker than I am.FelipeInside

Why someone kills themselves is irrelevent really, in the end suicide is simply a sad situation all around.  As others have said, it's all relative.  Perhaps she has other things going on and this has just put her over the edge?  I do agree that many do it as a cry for help and to gain attention, and I myself view suicide "attempts" as not entirely genuine death wishes (if you really want to die, there are ways to remove all doubt), but still.

Nobody really has any foundation to hold anyone who commits suicide to any standard, because strength, hardships, and peoples' ability to deal with everything in life varies wildly from one to another.

I guess you never suffered from depression then. You feel worthless, you feel everyone hates you, it eats you up, you just think to yourself what is the point in life, just to suffer? Why not just kill myself, I be better of dead. 

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="MirkoS77"]See, here's the thing that bothers me about this mentality....what you are essentially saying is that you are using her death to validate your worth as a person.  "She's weaker, I'm stronger...."  Nevermind the fact that she's DEAD.  I'm sorry man, but that's pretty fvcked up way to view things, and it seems all the people who look down on suicide do so for nothing more than to promote their own feelings of worth at the ultimate expense of the other.  

Why someone kills themselves is irrelevent really, in the end suicide is simply a sad situation all around.  As others have said, it's all relative.  Perhaps she has other things going on and this has just put her over the edge?  I do agree that many do it as a cry for help and to gain attention, and I myself view suicide "attempts" as not entirely genuine death wishes (if you really want to die, there are ways to remove all doubt), but still.

Nobody really has any foundation to hold anyone who commits suicide to any standard, because strength, hardships, and peoples' ability to deal with everything in life varies wildly from one to another.

MirkoS77

People should start not to diminish a break up like something silly to be upset about. I had lots of physical pain throughout my life and nothing was more painfull than when an ex of mine broke up with me. It really takes you the will to live. Thankfully I was able to get over it but that memory still haunts me from time to time

You are assuming they think normally.  When someone is depressed, they lose a lot of reason and the ability to cope with things.  A minor difficulty may seem insurmountable to them.

Life is a blessing but if someone isn't satisfied with the life they lead they are free to end their life....

A lot of people in developed countries are spoilt and do not understand the way of life.

When something little happens like breaking up with a partner, they often blow this way out of proportion to get attention. The only word I can describe these people is morons.

People should start not to diminish a break up like something silly to be upset about. I had lots of physical pain throughout my life and nothing was more painfull than when an ex of mine broke up with me. It really takes you the will to live. Thankfully I was able to get over it but that memory still haunts me from time to time

Vatusus

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People should start not to diminish a break up like something silly to be upset about. I had lots of physical pain throughout my life and nothing was more painfull than when an ex of mine broke up with me. It really takes you the will to live. Thankfully I was able to get over it but that memory still haunts me from time to time

FelipeInside

Offcourse not. But it seems the pseudo "alpha males" find silly to be completely broken because of a broken heart just because "there are bigger problems in the world". Thats a silly reason. I bet most saying stuff like this act all emotionaly tough until it happens to them. Then they all cry to their beds

The usual idiots chiming in. "Oh she just wants attention." "Oh she's weak, let her take the coward's way out." No empathy whatsoever, which is why the majority of you are socially awkward to begin with.

OP I commend you for actually questioning yourself and revisiting your stance on how you should go about approaching the situation. Have her seek professional help. Maybe go with her for a couple sessions to see what goes through her mind. Have her write out a list of everything that bothers her so that you can gain some perspective. 

The usual idiots chiming in. "Oh she just wants attention." "Oh she's weak, let her take the coward's way out." No empathy whatsoever, which is why the majority of you are socially awkward to begin with.

OP I commend you for actually questioning yourself and revisiting your stance on how you should go about approaching the situation. Have her seek professional help. Maybe go with her for a couple sessions to see what goes through her mind. Have her write out a list of everything that bothers her so that you can gain some perspective. 

Spellingiscool

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The usual idiots chiming in. "Oh she just wants attention." "Oh she's weak, let her take the coward's way out." No empathy whatsoever, which is why the majority of you are socially awkward to begin with.

OP I commend you for actually questioning yourself and revisiting your stance on how you should go about approaching the situation. Have her seek professional help. Maybe go with her for a couple sessions to see what goes through her mind. Have her write out a list of everything that bothers her so that you can gain some perspective. 

FelipeInside

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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Whoa Whoa, talk about reading my post wrong. I'm the only one in her life trying to get her NOT to commit suicide, or did that just escape your mind when you wrote that? Most of her other so called friends stop talking to her the moment they found out she tried to OD on sleeping pills.FelipeInside

suicide is lame but its awful that this world can make some one so down they want to die.

I don't think she is being ridiculous at all. I also think death may be easier on us then living life. If your friend said this to you it could just be her remembering were she came from deep down in her conscious mind. I can't really give you any advice on how to move forward with her because I am in a similar situation myself.

I do see what you are saying though. I look at my nieces and I watch them grow up complaining and crying about the silliest of things. I look at them and I say to myself if only they had lived the life I have lived they wouldn't cry over such trivial things. I think what happens is that we have what we consider a hard life not realizing that it could be worser then it really is. If you think you had a hard life there is always someone out there who had it harder then you.

I'll end with this.

You don't know how hard life really is until you experience how bad it really can be.

There's definitely a different mindset. A friend of mine was suicidal for a year, and though I stuck by him, I often questioned what reason he had to be so depressed. There doesn't have to be a "good" one, it's just how the person's mind functions.

People have to realize that one that contemplates suicide is not in a rational state of mind due to depression or other such things.. I find it pretty fvcking disgusting of many of these posts from people who clearly have never suffered from depression or lived with some one who has.. Things like bi-polar order, clinical depression and numerous other things can be serious illnesses if left untreated.. When some one commits suicide it is a tragedy because they did not get the help they needed and felt it was the only way to stop the agony they felt each day.. sSubZerOo

The problem with people like you is lack of sympathy and empathy. You expect people to feel as you do when they aren't like you and when they have had different experiences. You have no idea what its like to be someone else. People who are depressed or insane need real help not bs talk about how there are other people who can't even feed themselves. BenedictArnold7

Nope, you're not being too harsh, most people just want attention and affirmation. I think people just get over it, either way, your best interest is being direct and making them think about what asses they're making themselves look like.